TIME TO CIRCLE THE WAGONS GIRLS
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Ok Miss Nicki,
We got some football to watch tonight!!
I thought I would let you all know that I got to meet our darling Ferne last weekend.
It was the HIGHLIGHT of my Christmas!
She and I had the best time. When you meet a sister in person it is like you have always known eachother. It is amazing. I just wish we could have been together longer.
All of you that got to go to Pinkstock must know what I am talking about. That was a magical time here around the circle.
Here is a pic of me and Ms Ferne.
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Nicki, you just can't produce any proof of the lies you publicly spread about me. That's because there isn't any. omg, you must get dizzy flip-flopping around so fast about who you love and who you hate! So....you caused all this big upset on my board and then brought it here to upset these ladies...and you have no evidence. You created all this on nothing but hearsay. My gosh, Nickster, why weren't you thinking? I'm assuming you are guilty of trusting the wrong person as I have been. We must be careful who we give our loyalty. I learned that the hard way.
Marsha, I agree with you. There's been so many problems here in the "Cirlcle". I have publicly defended it and it's 'star' which I regret terribly after seeing evidence of what kind of person she is. I was duped and I'm embarrassed by alot of things I said and did in the past here. I should've asked for "Proof" myself of the terrible things she said before acting on them.
So to those of you, celia & djd especially, who I said hateful things to I apoligize. I'm thinking you knew how things worked around here alot better than I did. I fell for her pretty words that are just that...words. My loyalties were misplaced and I have since been so very enlightened as to her true 'identity' and it's not the public one she displays. However djd, i really do hate cats.
Cheri123
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Well, I haven't been here in a while - because I felt uncomfortable with all the bickering that was going on. Then, I started to pop in again, and all seemed to be getting better - but that was short-lived, unfortunately.
Sorry, but I don't think I will be back any time soon.
I wish you all the very best that life has to offer and hope you can all find peace and contentment in the New Year.
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I would like to post a comment. I am New Vickies daughter and I have a few things to say to a few people on this site. I have never read so much hateful information on a page that was designed to help men and women such as yourselves through difficult times. For Angel42, there are so many wonderful little names I would like to call you but I think for the time I will remain the bigger person and keep from cussing you out. Althought it truely is killing me not to do so. My mother has loved all of you from day one and you are all that she talks about. You are in a way her family. She does not have many people in New York and you have her hope. And to the few of you (not all...there have been MANY supportive people as well and I thank you all!) that want nothing more than to cause hurt and pain in someones life (around the holidays no less...man, thats class right there let me tell ya!) you really need to look at yourselves and wonder why it is you are so damn mean. But you probably wont. You will just push it off and say "it wasnt ME....oh no no no. Let me push this off on someone else." It seems to be what you are good at.
Again, I want to thank those that have been there for my mom during this difficult time. There is no way I can repay you for how happy you have made my mother. Thank you.
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NewVickiesDaughter : If you need to fight your mommie's battles go ahead. My daughters are only 2 and 9 so we'll have to wait a few years for them to do that for me. Do you think your mother is the only one who thinks of the sisters here as family and the only one who loves the women here and find hope from them? Too bad your mother deleted her hateful, hurtful comments to me so you can't see how this really started. I was only responding to her hurtfulness honestly and fairly. She shouldn't start something she can't hold herself accountable for. It shouldn't be okay for her to badmouth people simply because she "does not have many people in New York". Your mother needs to grow up, and so do you. I'm a relative newbie here, and your mom thinks nothing of trying to hurt me.
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ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0
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Its only natural for you to want to defend your mother but Angel42 didn't start this. She merely stood up for herself. Vickie can be quite likable as well as quite...um...effective at stirring the proverbial 'pot' herself. Angel is one of the nicest most honest people I have ever known. Sometimes it's best to just not get in the middle when you don't know all the facts.
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hoy crap!!!!!!!
please pass the 'crack pipe'
this is just ludicrous ..........
i'm heartbroken to read this mess.
why nicki why?
and why cheri did you have to acknowledge the antagonism yet again, in such a vehement way?
this is beyond even my comprehension ........ i feel sick to my stomach (and that says a lot for me) .......... thanks to all for curing me of my 'computer fix' regarding cancer .......... what a fiasco.
how ridiculously sad ........ off to 'real life' for me ............. i'm beyond disillusioned .......... they say there is nothing worse than a building full of women working together ........... we have proven here that hypocrisy is alive and well!
i'm ashamed to have ever joined here .............. and i'll never ever direct another patient to these boards ........... what a joke!!!!!!
get a grip you gals (the select few)........... you're destroying hope with every post and its literally sickening (yet again)!
i'm no saint, but i sure in hell don't go looking for trouble for fun .......... grow up!!!!!!!!!!
jeeze i'm pissed !!!!!!!!!! happy cancer everbody ............ i will delete my bco.org link as soon as i hit send .............. obviously i should've done it along ago .............. the drama is just friggin stupid!!!!!!!!!!
so nice to log in after a long and painful christmas to see "same old, same old" ........... i'm actually relieved to no longer participate in any of this shit!
............ the insincerity of the 'usual suspect's here just makes me nauseous!
i feel 'fooled' .......... what a mess!
hope all ya'll straighten it out ........... i'm actually embarrased to have BC at this point ............. good luck!
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Hey Nicki and everybody,
Just back from Roanoke visiting with my mom and sis. We had a slumber party!!
Holy Smokes ... I had to read back a few pages. Seems Nicoletta my friend you had a bad day. One of those deals where you post something and then can't get it edited fast enough before it's read and copied. I've done that before too and it sucks. Also, it appears that Vickie has now become XXXXXXXXX. And that business with the afghans happened months ago. Since Vickie deleted her comments, I have no idea what she wrote above. I do know that Cheri is the one who PM'd Vickie and told her to send Afghans to Liz and Char. Cheri had no business dictating who should and should not receive an afghan. I remember the incident well, as I was very concerned about any conflicts being started in and around the afghan project. Both Liz and Char are two of the most deserving ladies to have received one. They are beautiful, loving, kind and gentle souls.
Regardless of who's mad at whom ... the issue of Cheri hanging onto stuff that was written a long time ago on the "Bitchy" thread on her website still exists. I'm not a member now or ever was, so I don't know firsthand about this ... but Charlene mentioned the Bitchy thread above. I sure wouldn't want to be one of those ladies who early on, when there was a lot of turmoil, wrote something they now regret and feel tremendously bad about (and probably didn't mean it in the first place). Because there will always be this fear or looking over your shoulder that it will somehow come out or be sent via a PM or email months down the road.
This is a pretty sad situation because about 2 weeks ago I went back and read the first 100 pages of this thread to see where you all started and how your friendships developed. It was awesome. And Marsha ... I don't think this thread should be deleted, because other women will come here and start the same lifelong friendships, just as you gals did in the beginning. Now .. that would be really sad.
Well .... that was my 2 cents on that.
Time to bond with Mr. Tim on the couch with Tom Brady and Eli Manning.
Love you gals,
Bren
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You know, a few months ago when all this cattiness started I felt this overwhelming urge to try and fix it all. I felt like I needed to "stand up" for people, to pick sides. I wrote long impassioned speeches trying to get everyone to play nice....
I don't know what has changed, but I just don't have the energy to do it again. I wish you guys could all let it go, but I am quite sure nothing I say or do is going to make that happen.
I can't make you quit throwing sand in each other's eyes, but I can sure as hell get out of the sandbox.
I'll check back later and see if sanity has returned. In the meantime if anyone wants to stay in touch you can reach me through my blog, posted below. I will also be on other threads on BCO, so you can find me there.
Good luck
Deb C
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Newvickiesdaughter: I can only apologize for myself. I really like your mom alot. She has always been and will always be my sunshine sister.
Bren: So good to see you. Me too - Im watching football. Patriots vs Giants.
Debc: Yep, I know things will blow over and I know I will see ya around. Heard your having a blast with the kids and the sleds and the hot chocolate sounds great. Might just make some myself.
Nicki
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I always know how to find you Deb ... and this mess will blow over too, just like all the other ones.
PS - I deleted my comment above because I think I should stay out of the fray. I've tried before to be the voice of reason and it smacked me in the face.
Hey Nicki ... I gotta get my butt in there and watch the game!!!
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Bren: OMG in this short amount of time the Giants already scored a touchdown! Gotta go!
See ya all in the morning - hoping to bring some sunshine our way.
Nicki
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Oh Bren, cut the dramatics there was no 'dictating' by me for who to recieve an afghan. Yes, I was the one who submitted Charlene and another ladys name for the afghan list. That's how they decide who gets one is peoples suggestions of who to send them to. Hardly dictating.
Shel, c'mon now, you would not sit by while someone slandered you in a public forum anymore than I did. You would want the record set straight. That's all I asked for.
I missed out on the events of today also as I was away. Don't know what happened here regarding the rest.
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Bren .. I appreciate your kind words about me. I do want to say that it is my understanding that anyone, including Cheri, can request someone to be an afghan recipient. How do you know about the PM anyway? Wasn't it a Private Message? The afghans are not the issue here. They only came up as how Vickie hurt me, since she declared how deeply I hurt her without elaborating and I was simply defending myself. She makes a broad statement like that and it makes whoever she's talking to look bad, particularly a relative newbie like me when she's been around forever and is known for her sugary sweetness. How what started with someone else yesterday turned into something about Vickie I'll never know.
Also, be careful what you say when you "don't know firsthand". The issue of Cheri hanging onto stuff that was written a long time ago on the "Bitchy" thread still exists to you because I mentioned the "Bitchy" thread? That has nothing to do with why I mentioned it. Since people are being presumptious I want to clarify what the "Bitchy" thread is. It's where we go to talk about our personal problems and bitches ... ya know, like my SO's ex-wife spending Christmas at his mother's house, or my daughter throwing up all over me on Christmas eve. Or how this horrible, horrible nightmare of a year just won't let up. That kind of thing.
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PuppyFive. I think you have said it. Maybe I should not have gotten in the middle of all of this but I can not and will not sit by and let anyone bad mouth my mother (and Angel, I would hope your daughters would do the same for you) Nicki, she is my sunshine as well. Thank you for your kind words.
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Wow ... I didn't get that post deleted fast enough, did I???
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NewVickiesDaughter: I do appreciate your coming to your mother's defense because, well, she's your mom.
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Charlene, get off the grass mate, pleading that you are just a relative newbie and all innocent, what a joke you have been around long enough. This whole thing is starting to smell like a set up. I can not comprehend how anyone on these boards can be so vindictive towards another member of this site.
Amazing how you have not posted here very much of late, and when trouble starts who is there...the so called little Angel, also amazing how you now can find all this time to post, to vent your grudge against Vickie which you have tried to do before not only here but on other sites.
You are no Angel mate, think it is time you changed your user name.
Peter
p.s NewVickieDaughter keep a check on your pm's
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This is not the appropriate placefor this, I had posted this on another thread but perhaps it will cause all of us to stop and think. It was very hard for me to write all this.
We never know from one moment until the next what is in store for us. In order to be forgiven, we have to have a forgiving spirit. Be kind and loving to one another. one never knows, this could be our last opportunity.
I had never read this thread until today. I don't believe anyone is tested, we have trouble and trials to make us stronger. We aren't promised to not have any troubles, but provided the faith to get through them.
There are so many precious scriptures in the Bible to help us get through any situation.
John 17:22. I am so awed by that verse. CHRIST GAVE US GLORY.
It says; The glory that your have given me I have given to them. (That is US....We have Glory, we are one with the Lord!)
Our suffering cannot compare to what Jesus went through for us, think of being beaten and the flesh being torn from your body, the crown of thorns beaten down into your skull, being on the cross and your body slumping and trying to push yourself back up because of the pain in your lungs and the nails through your feet and hands make every move so horribly painful. I visualize myself in that situation and I have so say cancer is easy when compared to his death.
Cancer was tough, but not nearly as tough as losing my husband. The very worst ever was losing my grandson.
Andy was only 14 months old, hadn't been walking long, never cried except when his feelings were hurt. My daughter was visiting with some in laws and a cousin not much older than Andy pulled a crock pot off the counter and the contents and pot went over Andy's head. My daughter grabbed him up and put him under the faucet and his skin washed off just like when one would scald a tomato. He was rushed to the hospital in Winston-Salem, NC and airlifted to the Shriner's burn hospital in Cincinnati. My daughter called me and said, Mom, you have to come, Andy has been burned. I left Indiana immediately, drove to the hospital in Winston-Salem and when I got there a nurse stopped me as I entered the floor and said wait, someone will be out to talk to you. I thought they were going to tell me he was dead. What they had to say was, he was so critical that he had been transferred to Cincinnati. I left there and drove back to Cincinnati. I was numb, physically and emotionally.
There was no skin on his little body except for inside his diaper and his right ankle. They came in twice a day and scrubbed him head to toe to try to prevent scar tissue. He was on a vent, unable to cry, but after they had done this he would be shaking so bad it almost looked like a seizure. His head was so swollen that even his nose was recessed. His head was about the size of a basketball. I stood by his bedside and blotted the fluids that puddled over his nose and eyes. I prayed to God that if he wasn't going to let him live to take him and to end this suffering. This was a baby, why was he having to endure this.
Andy did not make it, he lived 8 days in this agony. I felt like I couldn't live but had to hold myself together for my daughter.
At the cemetery, when everything was over, she just kept sitting there, they were waiting for the family to stand up and leave. I put my arms around my daughter and said Pam, it is time for us to go now. She began wailing and saying Mom, this is my baby, how can I go and leave him.
I still cannot tell this story with breaking down and sobbing as I am now. Yes, I questioned God, I was angry for a time. I don't know how I moved on but I did. I never thought I could endure the loss of a child. My consolation now is knowing he is with God and that we will be reunited.
There are so many without that hope. That is a much deeper grief and loss to know that some are spending eternity in hell. Lets never cease to pray for the lost and take every opportunity to tell other's of his love for us.
God Bless all of you
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Peter, you best back off. You don't know all the facts, only what your dear friend tells you.
I used the term Relative ... and for the record, how many surgeries have you and Vickie gone through this year after finding out you had breast cancer while also having to contend with babies to care for? I have my fourth one coming up Wednesday. I am still in my initial treatment stage. It's 9 months to the day since I had my BLM. So yeah, I consider myself rather new in this breast cancer world.
I came here to defend friends and myself after someone else made incorrect statements regarding a private board and the people in it that they then later corrected. I have no grudge against Vickie. I was merely responding to her hurtful posts in defense of myself. If you would read without your rose colored glasses on you would see that. You wouldn't sit idly by while someone else tries to make you look bad either.
What do you know about my time and how it's amazing that I can find all this time to post? You know nothing and it's really none of your business. What other sites have I tried to vent my so called grudge against Vickie on? All I'm doing is defending myself against trash and lies like your post is.
My name fits me amazingly well. As does yours you Peter. Go ride your white horse back to dreamland.
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Peace, peace...
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Doris it is so great seeing you girl I never knew about your gandson I am so sorry to hear this Doris i miss you in chat why havent you been there I HATE whats happening here and hoping things will get back to normal but some people cant forgive and forget Doris i love all these girls well it was great seing you again love slonedeb from ky and from chat
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Wow, so glad I stopped by to see what this thread was /is all about.
Don't you guys have enough to deal with? without being self righteous, defensive, offensive and actually very bitchy?
The only person that you have to be able to look at in the mirror is yourself - you don't sleep or live with anyone on this board. If you can look at yourself in the mirror every night with good conscience then who the hell really cares? What one or another thinks here, does NOT I repeat, does NOT change your cancer, your chances, or your disease process. Self Righteousnous is very unbecoming with or without cancer. Why does anyone have to prove anything to anyone else here? What a mess. Maybe start a new thread that says Circle the Wagons and take aim. Wow... unbelievable.
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Deb, I sent you an email. I have been worried about you. I used to have your phone number but can't find it now. Send it to me and I will call you. So very sorry to hear about all you are going through.
Doris
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Doris ... I am so very very sorry about the horrible tragedy regarding your dear grandson. My brother lost a one year old son and my sister lost a 21 year old daughter to tragic accidents. I do know that awful kind of grief. I'm done defending myself here. People can say what they want and others can think what they want. It really doesn't matter, does it.
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the new chemo seems to be going good so far The Iv is only about 20 minumtes with a 10 minute flush so that real nice. I take 4 pills twice a for 14 days then take a week off and stat all over again. and the cost $60.00 ouch
other than a little neasua & being tired I'm doing OK with it so far
will try to read back
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Good to hear from you CY. Glad things are going well. You're in my prayers.
Hi Karyll. Haven't met you before. Welcome. Yes, I hope we can get back to the normal work of mutual support here soon.
Wishing a good evening to all.
Cherryl
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CY! I am so happy to hear from you. I'm glad things are going well. Let us know how you are when you can.
Hugs
Liz
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Charlene one of your questions to me was
What other sites have I tried to vent my so called grudge against Vickie on? All I'm doing is defending myself against trash and lies like your post is.
Perhaps I can refresh your memory about a post you made here on 7th November(my time).
"LOOK .... UP IN THE SKY ... IT'S A BIRD .. NO, IT'S A PLANE ... NO .. IT'S "SUPER PETER"!!!!!!Peter .. You make me ill. I knew you'd be along to come to sweet vickies rescue."
Only posting the start and finish, think Vickie and others have been hurt enjough by your lies and hate.
"I do wish this circle would fade away. Because what's been happening here I don't see ever being fixed. It's so sad. Because it was awesome when I joined it. But the wagon circle is gina, and always will be. That circle doesn't have Any problems. I'm proud to be a circle girl at Gina's site. Where there's no bs."
remember it now, does not sound like an angel.
Peter
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