Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Prior to surgery, chemo, rads or any major procedure, aren't you asked about your religious preference? 99.9 % of the time it is a simple answer and on to the next question.
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Nope, never asked.
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TB90-Wow! Canada is more advanced than the USA. The purpose is to have the appropriate religious support in place if needed.
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It must be regional... in CA I am not asked.
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I was just asked today at a new dr. Along with a bunch of other? like did I have a living will, poa, I said no to religion question she kept going. No problem.
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I have been asked every time I check into the hospital. I agree - that is so they can provide emotional support if needed. I always enter 'none'. I was never asked before or during chemo or radiation. And I have never been asked at a doctor's office or lab/X-ray facility.
SantaBarbarian - I was asked at the hospital in San Francisco when I broke my arm on vacation.
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I think I might have been asked my religious preference once as part of the hospital admissions. Everything I've had done was in the same hospital/medical complex. It's a Catholic one, and the only creepy part is that they pipe someone reciting their lord's prayer into all the rooms early in the morning. As far as I could tell, everyone ignores it.
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In my own experience it is on a form and if asked, then one of a whole list of questions. Height, weight, religious affiliation, etc.
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Magiclight- the individuals who requested my information prior to surgery, chemo and radiation never asked for my height or weight. Their only interest was in my insurance, HIPAA next of kin, emergency contact and religious preference. My doctors assistants asked for height and weighed me but never asked about religious preference. Yesterday was the only time a doctor ever directed a religious question to me. It's usually a simple question, simple answer and move on to the next question.
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All they ask me is whether I have an advanced directives form on file. I did one once and they can't find it but it was a long time ago and I would want to see if it needed changes. I still haven't done a new one. I probably should seeing that I'm getting up there in age. I always say I'm Buddhist although I haven't been active for 30 years. I asked my PCP what her position was on assisted suicide and was pleased that she would give me help in dying if I asked. She had prescribed for 3 people and thought one may have used the drugs. I was worried she might be Catholic and unwilling.
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They always seem to ask, I say none, and then it's on to the next question. I have a new directive on file.
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I have to provide an advance directive for my new PCP and I guess my oncologist when I find one.
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In Ontario I have never been asked and as a nurse I have never asked, however we have an assessment tool called RAI and it is American. In it it has an optional question about spiritual affiliation. The only time I ask is if a patient has no supports I will ask if they have a church or other social group to help support them.
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At pre op registration last week, I was asked the usual questions. She was reading off computer screen. One question was would I like a religious person to visit. She didn’t care what I answered, was part of her job. I said no. Don’t know what I would have said if somebody had darkened my door, drunk from anasthesia😂
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I knew a guy who was a recovering Catholic (eg no longer in the faith). He was in the hospital at the verge of dying and regained consciousness to discover he was being given the last rites. It made him so mad that he sat up and screamed for the priest to get out. He then proceeded to recover completely.
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My grandmother was hospitalized for something decades ago and woke up to find nun nurses praying over her. She sat up and yelled "Stop that damn gibberish!"
Grandma was awesome.
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goood for them.
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It makes far more sense to ask who I bank with so that they can explain why I may miss a payment.
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Haha those are awesome, love your grandmother.
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tb90- so true.
Alice-love your Grandma. Very funny
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So glad to have found this ... There are very few atheists where I live, that is for sure! What makes it much worse is that the cancer hospital that I transferred to 2 years ago forces religion down everyone's throat and it is quite horrific - every time I have gone there and sat in the huge waiting room for hours, everyone is "entertained" by parading padres and nuns, who give speeches about how we will all be "saved" . And then we are all given sugary drinks and white bread with margarine, haha. No matter how many years I have lived here, this is something I never get used to.
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that sounds awful.
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Oh, Spookiesmom - it certainly was! I dread the thought of having to sit through it all again in a few months when I go for my annual checkup! Not very respectful at all! But, looking around the waiting room, it appears that everyone else loves it. I would wear earplugs, but I wouldn't hear when they call my name :-(
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Ugh, that sounds like the waiting room for hell, if such a place existed.
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In California,healthcare facilities are mandated to obtain a POLST (PHYSICIAN /PROVIDER ORDERS FOR LIFE SUSTAINING TREATMENT) from a patient or a responsible family member,once they go into a hospital or a SNF with the purpose of having the staff know what to do in case of emergency situation for any patient.There were facilities who were sued for sending patients to ER or do aggressive treatments when the patient wished for a NO CPR or NO ER or HOSPITALIZATIONS. Patients understand better if the STAFF explains,it is mandated by the state and so that the staff would know what to do in case of emergency.
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none of the places I have been in California did this
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As I understand it, the CA POLST requires a physicians signature or h/her representative. If I come into the hospital etc. without one, what physician is going to sign that form? Looks a bit tricky for folks without a primary care doc. and paper in hand on admission.
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There are only two religions that I know of that make fun of themselves, Judaism and Buddhism. Perhaps it's because there are so many atheists who belong to these two groups...
Sayings of a Jewish Buddha
If there is no self, whose arthritis is this?
Be here now. Be someplace else later. Is that so complicated?
Drink tea and nourish life; with the first sip, joy; with the second sip, satisfaction; with the third sip, peace; with the fourth, a Danish.
Wherever you go, there you are. Your luggage is another story.
Accept misfortune as a blessing. Do not wish for perfect health, or a life without problems. What would you talk about?
The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single Oy.
There is no escaping karma. In a previous life, you never called, you never wrote, you never visited. And whose fault was that?
Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.
The Tao does not speak. The Tao does not blame. The Tao does not take sides. The Tao has no expectations. The Tao demands nothing of others. The Tao is not Jewish.
Breathe in. Breathe out. Breathe in. Breathe out. Forget this and attaining Enlightenment will be the least of your problems.
Let your mind be as a floating cloud. Let your stillness be as a wooded glen. And sit up straight. You'll never meet the Buddha with such rounded shoulders.
Deep inside you are ten thousand flowers.
Each flower blossoms ten thousand times.
Each blossom has ten thousand petals.
You might want to see a specialist.Be aware of your body. Be aware of your perceptions. Keep in mind that not every physical sensation is a symptom of a terminal illness.
(From the book ZEN JUDAISM by David M Bader)
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ananda - snort! I love these! I'm going to have to get the book!
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