Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Ananda...thanks for the reminder about staying strong.
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😊
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The most useful advice was something I found right here on breastcancer.org; I can't remember who posted it: "You don't have to be brave, you just have to show up."
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alice- it is so true. You have to show up.
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HAPPY MOTHERS DAY
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Hard to believe that they are 50, 47 and 45
HAPPY MOTHERS' DAY
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Spookiesmom, that is great!
I just dumped a small can of worms onto another thread. Some newbie was praying like mad that she doesn't have cancer. I asked if that means the ones who have it aren't sufficiently religious. The back-pedaling has started! Also the clueless "but that's not what I mean by praying."
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Dump this next. Matthew 6: 5
Prayer
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
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Ananda...I'm going with you and Bertrand Russell re: reason/ authority/trouble.
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Well, I got chased away from the other thread and told to stay here. I asked why we're relegated to one thread when there are so many with prayers or for other religious thoughts. Apparently they don't like to be questioned. So it's back in the non-believers closet for us! 😈
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AliceBastable "Apparently they don't like to be questioned" is probably always the case.
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I'm just glad we have this thread. I don't think there are more threads for and by atheists because of two reasons. There aren't many of us. Any thread for and by atheists runs into the problem that unlike religion, we don't really have a dogma to unite us and talk about. We don't even have nonsense phrases in common such as 'thoughts and prayers'. What we do have in common is reason and philosophers like Bertrand Russell, Epicurus, Denis Diderot, Rebecca Goldstein and Walt Whitman. We don't even talk much about why we are non believers. We don't talk about politics because that topic is well covered on another thread.
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ananda8 that is Venn brilliance.
I agree--we have to stay in the closet. There's a lot of zero tolerance for Not My Bubble going around, and I guess I have to plead guilty! In my quests and journeys through life, the more science I learned, the less I could accept any version of religion.
I'm doing fine "believing in" physics, neuroscience, astronomy, evolutionary biology, philosophy of secular humanists.
My own childhood religious upbringing (liberal Episcopal church) treated and interpreted all Biblical stories as inspired metaphors, not as literal facts. Eventually, I couldn't logically accept any more fairy tales.
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That is the most awesome Venn diagram!
I'm trying to come up with a (mostly 😈) non-offensive alternative to "thoughts and prayers." "Science and steady hands?" That would work for upcoming surgeries. For a generic one, how about "rationality and compassion?"
In the thread that I got pushed out of (although there were some nice defenders of the lack of faith), I saw a lot of the bias that would not be acceptable if it involved race, ethnicity, or sexual identity. I guess we're one of the last groups that it's okay to scorn - even if we aren't really a group.
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There's always...
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That is hilarious. I've never sent anyone tots and pears! I always say "warm wishes," or "you are warmly in my thoughts."
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I usually say sending healing vibes.
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I'm looking for something to say to the in-your-face religious types that would include genuine good wishes, but with a subtle hint of snark. I want a "good wishes" equivalent of the classic southern "bless your heart."
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Depending on tone of voice, bless your heart can go either way. 🤣.
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If someone is sick, I say " May you be well". If someone has a problem with a loved one, I say, "May you find peace." If someone as other kinds of trouble, I say, "My thoughts are with you". I use a lot of memes online rather than phrases. Something like this.
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Ananda, I just sent out the Pears and Tots for a birthday greeting. LOL and hope receiver gets it.
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Ananda, I sure misread the Tots and Pears as I said it backwards - not so poignant as Pears and Tots
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Today the Christian extremists had their wish granted and Alabama Governor Kaye Ivey signed what amounts to a total ban on abortion. Kaye Ivey had already been warned by the Freedom From Religion Foundation to stop using the state's facebook page to deliver religious messages that celebrates the supremacy of Christianity. Irrespective of one's belief about abortion, the Alabama government is inserting christian doctrine into law. I was not aware of the Freedom from Religion foundation, but will look to them for future information.
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magiclight-I concur.
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I believe that Ron Reagan Jr. does PSA's for the Freedom from Religion Foundation. He ends them by saying, "Lifelong athiest, not afraid of burning in hell." Love it.
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pingpong..I'm learning something new every day
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Bwahahaha! Stealing this!
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