Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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AliceB, My sister quite rightly objects to the sign of peace because it is a great way for old people to catch colds and flu. Perhaps that thought is what is making your old catholic lady make a face.
Yndorian1, I think you can call yourself a Deist.
Wren, That's so sad.
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My chemo month group has become an opportunity for many people to declare their prayers for each other. I'm a comfortable agnostic, and I was brought up that people should keep their religious beliefs to themselves. (Obviously I'm not a Southerner!) So it all makes me cringe a bit, and really puts me off participating there.
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Justchecking in to see if any real cerebral conversation is happening, but it appears the only way this thread can hang together is to bash and make fun of what you can't figure out. Now you can bash me for invading your safe space from the horrible world of religion. The sad truth is that without religion you wouldn't have anything to talk about.
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Hey joE77? Piss off. Would you like us to come to your religious threads and tell you what a bunch of delusional losers you are? Didn't think so. Have a little respect and we will as well.
Trish
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She's been here before. She won't stay long.
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Wow. JoE, I’ve seen you in other threads and have nothing against you but this comment was unprovoked and unnecessary. Religion and a lack there of is a big part of this thread but I don’t think we “bash” (we do joke on occasion) but we mostly express frustration with overly judgmental and intolerant church goers. This particular thread may not be the place for you and that is fine. Live and let be.
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Hey Joe - the discussion of classical music, architecture, Gentileschi and Caravaggio wasn't cerebral enough for you? What do you suggest we talk about?
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Here's some philosophy from Marcus Aurelius.
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Wow! Even some family members of atheists might visit this thread to better understand their loved one's pain but would find hurtful words instead.
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go back to your self righteous hole.
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I found our conversation together a few weeks ago, as many of us shared how we faced a difficult health issue without religion, to be very supportive and interesting. Many thoughtful and profound observations in that exchange. I've appreciated, so much, this safe and kind fresh-air space to listen and think, without judgment. I've also appreciated the doses of humor. Important medicine!
I'm a Secular Humanist. Firmly rooted in morality to inform thought and deed. Deeply committed to questioning and examining, and to justice and kindness. On a lifelong quest to self-actualize, learn, ponder and journey to more knowledge about myself, about others, about science and the universe. Adhering to these principles, as many do to religion, feels authentic to me. I am proud to believe my way, and I'm not worried about matching anyone else's belief systems.
"Who are the secular humanists? Perhaps everyone who believes in the principles of free inquiry, ethics based upon reason, and a commitment to science, democracy, and freedom. Perhaps even you."
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It seems that churchgoers have a hard time believing that atheists are not "in pain" due to not having a belief in God. We don't miss God! We prefer to be God-free! Believe that!
Hurtful words happen every time someone folds God / prayer into a cancer discussion..... as though God chooses who gets sick. As though if you have cancer maybe you weren't prayerful enough to get God to help you, and he let you get worse.
THAT is hurtful. I can only imagine how upset and hurt a believer with cancer might feel, that God has forsaken her despite all her belief and earnest prayer.
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Joe777, I'm not sure what you mean about "loved one's pain." The pain of our cancer diagnoses and treatment? Or the pain that some people experience when their religious family members, friends, and communities pass judgment on them? I myself do not feel any pain from my lack of religious faith, nor did pain lead me to reject religious doctrine.
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Another drive by religious bashing. I notice Joe277 doesn't have the courage of her convictions. Very cowardly to remove the original post. Now it looks as though we are just being rude to some poor, misunderstood, persecuted christian .
And btw, all of you are much more patient than I. My patience for overbearing christians has run dry. I'm damn tired of having to be polite and respectful of people who choose not to be polite and respectful to me.
Sorry for being so blunt.
Trish
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Nope - Joe277 is a troll and the mods have removed her posts. As Ananda said, she'll be gone woon. I too have seen her disrupt other threads. Best to just ignore.
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I love this new-to-me expression: 'drive-by religious bashing.' I am now officially a persecuted atheist. Who knew that was A Thing? Thanks to everyone here for sharing sanity.....
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Man, I'm late checking in and all religious hell has broken out! Damn, I miss all the fun. Hey, Joe277, if you're still reading this: what would be disrespectful is if one of us went to one of the MANY, MANY, MANY religious discussions to talk about our lack of faith. But no, we keep it to one thread. And here you come, trespassing on OUR place, being all rude and pushy like a bad stereotypical christian missionary. Well, you've just had the door slammed in your face. Go away and stay away.
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Ananda8, I just can't get into the fear-of-germs thing. And the mega-catholic woman wasn't an old woman, just a youngish snot who thought everyone was intruding on her private space..
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I guess I just pictured her that way. My town is practically a senior center there are so many old folks. One out of 3 people in my town is over 65. Lot's of people would rather not hug in church. Prior to anti-biotics it was very uncommon for strangers to touch each other because of fear of contagion.
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I guess the congregations I've been familiar with are not groups of strangers, but communities whose members know each other well.
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I guess I haven't explained myself well. When one is dealing with an aged population colds, flu and other diseases can run through a community very quickly. It is because people care for one another that they are careful about contact especially since old people often have suppressed immune systems. I just meant my original comment to be something in passing. I didn't intend it to be a challenge or upsetting in any way. 😉
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JoE- when you came into this thread for the first time several months ago I gave you the benefit of the doubt . Since that time you occasionally pop up with severe criticism about our lack of belief . Your attitude has been condescending and patronizing . This particular thread isn't about trying to convert us to Christianity . I feel you coming from a place of meanness . What is your real purpose for coming on to this thread? I relish thoughtful discussions but you're not coming to share philosophies or debate issues. Sometimes we just have fun.
Mountainmia- I come from a very large Southern family. You are 100% correct. Southerners love to share their opinions on God whether you want to hear it or not. LOL
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I am, for what it’s worth
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Ooh, Ananda8, I like that! If nothing else, it would confuse the heck out of people who don't think.
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Hi everyone-
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The Mods
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Thanks mods, and we agree not to flame the religious posts.
As long as we have a safe place for devout atheists, we're happy.
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