Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Oh Bren, I'm so sorry that you're experiencing this difficult time with your beloved dog! Comfort yourself knowing that during his life, he was so lucky to have lived with such loving owners! I go into depression every time I've had to lose a dog. Their time with us is so short.
Cindy, that is soooooo cool that you've kept up with each other for so long! I shared your video with all my friends. Seattle is so pretty, isn't it? My red hatters and I rented a house on Puget Sound in Washington state for a week and had a ball. If you go to VRBO.com you can see houses/condos for rent all over the US and abroad. We rented a beautiful Victorian home that we could have never afforded individually, but with 10 it less than $200 for the whole week.
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Denali, we'll have to look into renting a house/condo for future get-togethers. I've been joking that Seattle gets about six sunny days a year and we got to experience three of them! LOL It's a wonderful place, so beautiful and vibrant.
--CindyMN
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Good morning ladies, lots of activity over the past few days.
Bren, my thoughts are with you, I have lost three beloved dogs in my life and it never gets easier. Most recently was my old boy who was euthanized in June 2008 one month short of his 14th birthday (my user name should really be 1acdmom now instead of 2acdmom). Something that was shared with me when I lost one of my dogs: "Grieve not...nor think of me with tears... but laugh and speak to me as if I were beside you... I loved you so... 'Twas heaven here with you."
OK that always makes me cry, so moving on to a happier subject...
Today is my five year survivor anniversary. Yay! I feel as though I have been holding my breath for the past couple months. I'm leaving in a few hours to head up to the coast with my dog to spend a few days walking the beach, strolling in Mendocino, and looking at the stars at night.
Thinking of you all (but not praying for you)...
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Alex, congratulations on this important milestone! You and your best friend will have a lovely time, I'm sure!
Bren, still thinking of you and Bo.
Has anyone read Chris Hedges' book Empire of Illusion -- the End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle? I've long wondered about this huge "prayer palaces" that have been built over the last 25 years or so, and how religion has turned into a spectacle/entertainment with paid orchestras, choirs etc. I wonder if he touches on that in his book...I'm going to buy it, if I can ever remember my Amazon password.....
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that books sounds interesting..let us know what you think
Alex..congrats on the five years..yes it is an important milestone..
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Magcline,
On your Home Page click on Edit My Diagnosis and look to see if you've checked the box for your dx to appear in your Public Profile, it's one of the last items.
A second thing you can do is in your profile info, there's a signature bar, also toward the end, where you can add more info. This is where a lot of ladies add more dx/tx info or a favorite quote.
I haven't posted on this thread before but am a regular reader, I share many of the view expressed here and hope the thread continues. Thanks all.
A close family member (SIL) once said to me "How can you be a moral person, if you don't believe in God?". This dumbfounded me, but I fear it's what many people think.
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Gee, let's start naming all the people we know who profess a belief in God but behave immorally. 0
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Alex ... congrats on your FIVE years. What a great day for you!!
Bren
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Friends,
Bo is gone now. My sis came down and we took him to the vet at noon today. I have never done this before and he was my best friend.
He was ready to go .. I know he was ... but I'm so sad.
There is a huge emptiness without him here.
I am so grateful my non religious sis took me. We didn't have to talk about god or anything ... while neither of us believes in heaven or hell .. we're pretty certain there is a doggie heaven. And Bo is with all his buddies now.
I called Tim (he's still on the road) and he cried.
love you all,
Bren
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Oh, Bren, this is truly one of the hardest things anybody has to do. Please know that the pain will ease and give yourself permission to grieve.
--CindyMN
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(((Bren))) I am so sorry about Bo...he was a beautiful furchild! Just remember that you did the last kind thing for him when he needed you to. It's so difficult to lose them - they so quickly become part of our families. Sending you lots of energy to help you with your grief...
Peggy
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Bren~
Have no doubts you did the right thing for your Bo~Bo. He earned the right to have a peaceful death, with you at his side.
I was shocked how quickly my Annie left. She closed her eyes and was gone. The vet told me that dogs have such a will to please us, to stay by our sides....that they will themselves to live on & on, sometimes through great pain....
He said I could stay with her after she had passed, but it wasn't her, she had gone, that spark, that energy that lives in us all....it was gone in a moment.
I guess that is the purpose of this thread, where does that energy go?
The big black dog, Rags, in my couch photo weighed 110 pounds, he was a Huricane Katrina rescue & undeniably my young son's dog, you couldn't pry him away from that boy! We lost Rags to lung cancer at only 4 years old, my son keeps his ashes on his night stand....he still crys for him. The vets felt it was chemicals the animals were exposed to after the storm....
I quit smoking after we lost Rags, my son, then only 8 didn't want me to die of cancer too....
I am a bit stoned on pain killers, I had a wee surgery today, I just wanted to pop in and let you know I was thinking of you...if my post makes no sense, I will edit it when I sober up.
Hugs to you, Bren.
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Bren -- I am so very sorry about Bo-Bo. It is so very, very hard. We know we are doing the right and loving thing for our dog or cat, but it hurts so much. When I had to let go of Ursula I just kept telling myself it was all about Ursula, for Ursula. She was more important than me being sad. I did right by her. It was a great comfort when I got her ashes back -- I raced from chemo to the vets and was so happy to have her home again. I still give her urn a pet and say goodnight. Some day my and Chloe's ashes will join hers -- we'll all be together again.
Big hugs for you at this very sad time.
Elizabeth
xoxoxoxox
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Bren, I'm crying enough tears to make a rainbow all the way from texas. I'm such a blubberbucket. I loved the picture of Bo and I'm so sorry for your loss. Big hugs.
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What a comfort you gals have been today.
Thank you for sharing your lives with your furbuddies with me.
It does comfort me to know that letting him go was the greatest gift I could give him. He hung on for me ... and he was such a gift in my life. He went through some very bad and dark times with me, also times of great joy and adventure.
I think I can go get his ashes next week some time.
hugs,
Bren
PS ... Dawn .. I may be a little loopy myself. I had the worst migraine this afternoon and took a Vicodin. Hope all is okay after you "wee surgery" today.
Hugs to you Layne .. love you dear friend.
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"I just want to assure everyone here that I am NOT praying for any of you."
LOLOLOL
Ivorymom, you crack me up
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Oh, crap, I've been dripping all day and now I'm going to make a water mark on the table.
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Annalemma, speaking of crap (aka chicken poop!) how are those hens of yours doing in that ultra-luxe henhouse penthouse?0
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Just popped in again, to catch up on my reading and I was so sad to hear of your loss, Bren. I have had several pets throughout my life and I still miss each and every one of them. I know they had wonderful spoiled lives and were loved beyond measure. Some I have had the luxury of cremating; some have been buried in the backyards of my parents' homes. The family is actually reluctant to let go of one of the properties due to the pet cemetery in the backyard. My heart goes out to you during this painful time.I must confess. I DO believe that my animals go to a special place when they leave me. Perhaps it is just in my heart, but I truly hope that one day I will be able to see them all again. Perhaps only in my dreams...
I love this thread. It is so full of diversity, compassion, and intellectual curiosity.
Hugs to all and a special comforting hug to Bren,
C
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Hi all-
I messaged Tami about moving the thread...are you guys still thinking it should be under another heading other than Newly Diagnosed? Tami said it was started by someone looking for support and do we have a reason we want to move it...?
I wanted input before I message her back. If everyone thinks it should stay where it is, no worries, I'll let her know
Peggy
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Sige~
I really enjoy this thread. It is comforting to know I am not the only one not praying to "The God" for support. Where do they plan on moving it? If they send it to religion, it may get more soul saving...
I have it in my favs, so I'll find it even if the send it to the underground
Dawn
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I agree Dawn - I love this thread as well. Diversity makes the world go 'round!
I don't care if it stays here, but some of the girls were thinking that maybe Just Dx'd might not be the right place...? I'll see what others say. Maybe I jumped the gun in messaging Tami *oops*.
PS: Maybe "Recovery, Renewal & Hope"?
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I have seen it discussed several times, moving it someplace it doesn't shock quite so many God fearing souls. I don't get it, the Jesus, Catholic & Praise God threads don't offend me at all.
Can we dance naked under the full moon when we get to our new home?? I might be getting a little old, but, I am damn cute naked
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"dance naked under the full moon..."
Dawn - sounds like a plan...we do this every full moon, well in the Spring, Summer & Fall that is. And we raise energy with drumming & chanting
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Meg -- those are beautiful!! My furbaby Ursula's urn is more of a box, cherry coloured with a nice plaque. Not as nice, but it's OK. It's only temporary until the all our ashes get mixed together. Ideally I wanted to bury Urusla but she's Canadian and I couldn't see me crossing the border to take her home. But she's be home eventually. But then again, home is where I and Chloe are.
Yes, our thread would fit under Recovery, Renewal & Hope. But with what title? Would it fit under the Prayers and Spiritual Inspiration? Or maybe Alternative Spirituality? Non-Believers on the Road to Hell?
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Alternate Spirituality? lol
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...although I'm not sure how I feel about "alternate"...
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I'm fine with the title as is, and it's okay by me to move it to Recovery, Renewal and Hope. Although I rather do like Alternate Spirituality -- it might attract more folks if the word atheist is removed.
Elizabeth, when my widowed aunt in Michigan died, she was cremated and there was no problem sending her ashes across the border (she wanted them buried in the town where she grew up). My nephew was charged with going to the local post office several days in a row, asking if "Auntie May had arrived yet?" She was well-loved by her family!
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When I was thinking about it, I thought this thread might go best under the "Support and Community" category because I considered us more of a special community looking for support from a very special group of peers. I would name it "Atheists with BC," or something like that. I know we're not all atheists but that label should draw in the folks we want and maybe ward off the ones we don't. No false advertising, so to speak.
Just my 2 cents.--CiindyMN
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Or perhaps: "Heathens and infidels on the short bus to Hell." LOLOLOL
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