Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Although I haven't seen Dune, I like it chumfry!! Welcome back Layne - I was wondering where you've been
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Thanks Cindy -- I must remember that in January when I have tests and a checkup
!Welcome back Layne! And good wishes to Dawnbelle (if you're reading this -- we miss you!).
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Cindy
Diagnosis: 8/13/2009, DCIS, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-0 -
I think that i have posted over here once or twice, but I read the thread often. I am so sorry to hear that Dawn decided to leave us. I missed a lot of her more recent posts and I am sorry that they have all been deleted. She was witty and a very caring person on other threads as well.
Elizabeth,
If you have contact with Dawn, please let her know that we miss her very much.
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Dawnbelle, I will miss your wit and energy, and your pics, too. Didn't get a chance to see the last one. Hope you come back to read how much you are loved. XXOO
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IvoryMom - you are beyond adorable!!!
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I'm not sure what I am. I grew up Catholic and still go to a Catholic church. There's a lot about that faith that I love, and I can't truly abandon. But as time goes on less and less of it makes sense. During the time I was going through all the breast cancer treatment, a lot of people said they would pray for me. It made me feel very awkward. I greatly appreciate all of their positive thoughts, but I just don't understand the praying for people business. What about all the truly bad-off people in the world, all of the starving kids, all of the lonely people who have no one to pray for them. Surely one should pray for them instead of me. Would God pay more attention to prayers for one person, when all those other poor people have noone to pray for them? I surely hope not. (I'm not a frequent poster because I just don't have the time, and it's too easy to type something that you don't really mean.)
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I've been away from this thread for a long time, but decided it was time (past time) to catch up. Or at least say hello. After posting exclusively on the May 08 chemo thread for the past year or so, I allowed myself to get sucked into the political controversy surrounding the USPSTF mammogram recommendations - where I saw a few of you also posting (hi, Madalyn) and was reminded of what a great group this is.
Life is good, the cats are fat and happy, and I'm really, really looking forward to this long Thanksgiving weekend.
Linda
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Hi Linda -- I've enjoyed reading and appreciated your comments re. the mammo guidelines. Sounds like things are going great -- nothing like happy fat cats!!
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Linda, you have been such a voice of reason and sanity and credibility during this whole mammo debate. Even though the "guidelines" have nothing to do with those of us up north (or, in your case, east!!), we are still concerned.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all! Hugs from (another) Linda
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I saw that billboard too...loved it...
just wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving...
we don't have to give prayers to feel thankful..
Here is Plimouth Plantation where it all began
Two of my relatives made the first Thanksgiving
and a few years later they moved away from there...
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It's wonderful to see non-believers beginning to be acknowledged, even though there's a long, long way to go. God isn't required for morality or kindness.
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God? What God?
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Or at least thinking about doing our holiday shopping, decorating, cooking, baking etc.!
I took a vacation day to get some of that stuff done today, and wound up getting sucked into the flame wars on the health care policy threads. I think I may have to go cold turkey and shut this computer down. I'm so weak!!
Leprechaun, I was very sorry to read on another thread that your wife was diagnosed with mets. Your family is in my thoughts. (And I like your tagline.)
Linda
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I always get excited around Dec 20/21 -- come back Sun!!!!!!!
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Hi all! I've been offline for quite some time, and just getting back to this site. I finished chemo and rads and am enjoying my hair growing out. Also getting back into the atheist and agnostic sites (and a christian site for contrast), exploring philosophy again. I was so sick during and after chemo that I feel like I've lost most, if not all, of 2009.
Hugs and health to all us non-theists!
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Now that our children are grown and grandchildren are old enough to remember and carry on holiday traditions, we're beginning to develop our own solstice rituals. My DIL came up with some things to do with their friends and kids last year, then we repeated them here in Ohio with the rest of the family (they live in Maryland). We made a big fire outdoors, burning a Yule Log. The children gathered twigs of holly and oak to represent the old and new years. We took turns telling of a bad thought or regret from the old year, then tossed a holly spring into the fire to give up that thought. Then we did the same with an oak twig, and thought of a hope or goal for the new year. Anyone who didn't want to speak out loud could say it silently .
We cooked a huge beef roast to represent the slaughter of the bull - the old year - by Mithras, or, the conquering of the old year by the new one.
I'm currently the matriarch, but I don't know how long I will be here to make these a family tradition. Now that the kids are eight years old and younger, I think we're at the point of having rituals that take the place of religious ones. So we don't worship NOTHING, instead, we have our own holiday traditions that represent the symbols of what we believe.
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Those rituals sound very nice, especially the burning of the old regret and the new hope. I would think the fire destroys the old regret and helps carry the new hope on the wind.
I live in Minnesota and we are literally counting the days to the solstice. We moved here from 12 hours south and the difference in sunlight availabilty has been shocking. My husband and I comfort each other, "Just a few more weeks and the sun will start coming back."
DH is a computer geek who used to prefer dark rooms. "The day-star...it BURNS!!!" LOL So you know sunlight is precious when even he will stand out in the driveway, staring up into the infrequent blue skies of late winter. (Which he did last year, just to feel the sun on his face.)
--CindyMN
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Cindy, I grew up in S.C. and we now live in Cleveland. There's a huge difference in afternoon sunset times. That's why I am so interested in the analemma and such. I can't imagine living in Minnesota, what time is your earliest sunset? Ours is today, at 4:57, and it stays there until it starts to get later on the 16th of December. At this time, the sun is still rising later in the morning, while setting later in the evening. So, our total daylight time doesn't correspond with the earliest sunset or the latest sunrise. The analemma shows that. I love it, I think it's beautiful.
You can get your on locality of sunrise and sunset times online, at
http://www.sunrisesunset.com/custom_srss_calendar.asp
I love to imagine the sun's position in the sky as it climbs back up the slope on the analemma.
Brenda
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Brenda, according to that site, our four shortest days feature a sunrise at 7:48 or 7:49 and a sunset of 4:34 or 4:35. There are usually a few days in the winter where I can see a couple of stars as I walk to the bus stop in the morning and then again when I'm walking home from the bus stop after work. Ugh. In the summer, though, it often doesn't get clear dark until almost 10 p.m.
--CindyMN
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When I lived in Edmonton, Alberta it was brutal. In the winter it was dusk at 3:30-ish PM. No light until about 9AMish. The summers were nice though. I'd rather live around the equator...
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Hi There:
Any belief system is personal. I choose my own which means I care on many levels (except Jesus) - just awaiting biopsy results. Where do you live?
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I don't know if I'll ever get around to reading the first 49 pages, but can I join anyway?
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Hi sweatyspice, as far as I can tell, the more the merrier!
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Thanks for the welcome!
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When I crawled out of bed at 11AM and saw the snow I wanted to crawl back in again! I was going to meet some new BC friends today but had to reschedule. :-( About 6" of snow, slippery and windy. Apparently not that cold, but I was told by a friend who actually likes winter!!! Just below freezing? Anything below 75 degrees is freezing for me. She invited me for dinner tonight but no way I'm walking the mere 2 blocks in this crap!
No pagan bonfire but I did light a candle. And poured a little bit of wine. Cat's asleep beside me so I feel pretty good!
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Yes, we got at least a foot of fluffy snow coupled with 40 mph winds. It's 12 degrees but the wind chill is minus 10. I'm lucky I've got the option of working from home. Hooray for the Internet!!
--CindyMN
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Well, you know SoCal...rain, rain..now sun
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We sent that snow your way. We've been in the deep freeze with below zero to single digits for several days. And now the wind is blowing so hard that we're having whiteouts up here in the mountains. Damn cold.
Anne
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