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Sandy... can I just say .. it is soooooooo good to see you again... it just isssssssssssssssssss!
Jax.. where are you honey????? If anyone has her e-mail.. could you check on her..... I will pm her.
So funny you all have worried about me jumping up and down in front of my mirror.. Linda told me too....hehehehehehehehehe
My girlfriend and her kids came over to swim.. so I got NO pictures taken... and I am in pain now... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.. so I am taking my Demerol.. ( 2nd pill in 48 hrs.. I am doing good wiht pain)...... so I will look at taking picks at some point this weekend. If you donot see them on the pic page soon.... PM me and get my butt in gear.....
I am really NOT a flighty gal.. but this week.. with two surgeries and demerol... I kinda am....hehehehe... so.. anyway... off to lala land to relax.. pain free and read the threads here.....Question:adue
Is this why my two grandkids call me "La La".... seriously... ROFLOL.....
Ladies... laugh when you can... pray a lot ( if this is your belief)... talk with girlfriends... love your babies... men... and grandkids.... take in LIFE! We are all here wahoooooooooooooooooooooo WE DID NOT Give in to Cancer... we fought and won!
OK... I am not on my La La pills yet.....
Now I am... so I bid ...
Ladies.. I love ya... and I wish you a GREAT weekend full of new ideas and thoughts.. and LOVE LOVE LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
ps... two years ago... I MADE FUN of gals on Message Boards too.. No joke... Boy.. was I a #itch, and so very wrong.....
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Sandy - Isn't this the friend who got around 350 cc's? You were looking for photos of reconstruction with implants in that size range?
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4greatkids: Well, Sandy is right - you will see a notable decrease in projection since you have had 7.0 cm projection with your TE's. I presume you have already gone over this with the PS - I think the Mentor 500 HP's at be 13.2 centimeters wide would really be fine for you and if he could get you to 550 cc's that would get you to 13.6 cm width. Your ribcage is an inch and a half larger than mine and I have 550 cc's and my PS felt that I should have narrower implants - she wanted the Allergan 475's which were 12.8 wide as I recall. I could have gone with the narrowest Style 45's - so in MY opinion, I do not see where the width of the HP's would be a problem for you. But with the moderate plus, you will get nice cleavage - and your PS knows your body habitus and your physique better than we do.....
On that other note - a root canal....I would like for you to ask your dentist about taking antibiotics prophylactically for that procedure. An intensive dental procedure can release bacteria into the bloodstream and you are having surgery in two weeks - we don't want complications. I had some research on that...I'll PM it to you....
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YES.. Deborah is so right,,,
If you are having any dental work and having any TE or implant surgery... within two weeks. you NEED to be on antibiotics. TE and Implants are at a VERY VERY high risk of infection. I had teeth break during chemo... and I HAD to get them pulled or root canal prior to mast and TE... in order to do this.. I had have a week on antibiotic prior to tooth work.. then week after , prior to Mast/TE.
My PS told me that from here on out.. rest of our lives.. to be safe... antibiotics prior to teeth work done.. BECAUSE we have implants..
Check into this.. call you doctor...Read Deborah's PM... she is very thorough..
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I also have textured implants. Mentor CPG 323 685cc gel implants. I am not on a trial as we do not have to be on a trial to get them in Canada. I am not happy with the size they appear very small. It has been 4 months since exchange surgery.
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Val, sorry it took me awhile to catch up on the thread, but I wanted to share with you about my experience last Fri at oncs office. I went in for what I thought was to discuss my results from bone density test, and my former chemo nurse took me back to one of the chemo chairs. I told him, "What are you doing?!!!!", and he said he was going to hook me up for Zometa IV. I also had a panic attack!! Bad flashbacks!! Apparently I have osteopenia, and will be getting the Zometa every two mos. The IV takes two hours, so it reminds me so much of the chemo I never want to do again! So I know exactly how you felt! Hope your test comes out better than mine, too.
Dawn, congrats on last chemo and an exchange date. Nice to look forward now. My hair has taken awhile to really grow since last chemo Jan 20, about an inch. It grew real full, then thinned out a little, probably the Arimidex and oopherectomy, my lashes have grown in thick, thinned out, then are thickening again. I'm not too patient with this slow growing thing. Good luck.
Deborah, hope you are feeling better. It's cooled off here in Texas a little, only 98 this week:). At least we have AC! Thank you for all of your hard work here for everyone, you are an angel.
I think my implants have fallen some more. I will see my PS in Aug to see what I can do about this. I just wish they would sit up higher on my chest, not saggy like they are now. I don't know if that can even be fixed, as I already had a lift at exchange. I'm giving it time, but I'm not too happy right now.
Deen
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Breastless: Just PM'd you.
Deen: I hope they ran lab work before the Zometa infusion. They need to check your blood calcium and Vitamin D levels. If you are going to undergo bisphosphonate infusion, and if you are Vit D deficient, you need to build those levels back up before taking Zometa or Aredia.....or possibly Boniva or Fosamax for that matter. You could become severely hypocalcemic otherwise. Just a precaution.
Sandy: I will get my DH one of those tee shirts, but as I was reading, I thought, "I promised my son the computer" was going to be another tee shirt logo...and I was worried how that might be linked to ta-ta's. Whew.
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((Laura)) you had me rolling, and your running commentary was before the demerol? I hope you got relief and are feeling better.
((Deen)) How will this chemo impact you? Is this something you will do 6 times a year for the rest of your life? There is so much to learn here. Thanks for sharing.
((Deborah and Laura)) WOW, I did not know about antibiotics before dental work with implants. I used to have to take them because I have tricuspid valve regurgitation, but the AMA stated that it was no longer necessary so didn't use them the for the last cleaning when I had the TE in. I see the cardiologist next month so will ask him what precautions I need. Deborah, if he states I don't need antibiotics, is there reference material I can read to have a better understanding of this issue? Thank you all for being the "thinkers" for the many complexities of BC, implants, and who would have thought about antibiotics for dental work? Jan
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Jan - I'm like you. Took antibiotics before and after all dental appts due to my mitral valve prolapse for years. Since the recommendations have changed, I haven't taken them either - including my check up less than a month after my TE placement. Guess it's one more question for my ps. If anyone has the link to medical reference regarding this, please post so we can share with our dentists.
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LAURA!!!! I did not tell you to jump in front of the mirror....It is too soon for you to be doing anything like that....There will be time after you heal that you can check for jiggle.....
JAN1 A while back there was a lot of discussion on weather to take antibiotics before dental work....you can do a search on dental work and get those discussions....Look at the upper right hand corner and click on the search button....
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Dawn - We have the same size TEs (250cc), so I'm looking forward to hearing about what size you end up with. Mine isn't til 9/21, so we haven't really talked sizes yet. Not too many of us with these small TEs, so the more info we have the better!
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Misty, Thanks for the congrats, August should be a good month and I could use one of those at this point.
Deen, Thanks for your kind thoughts. I'll see what happens with my hair, brows and lashes. I have heard of it coming and growing. You'd think after all we've been through we'd just get a break with the hair stuff.
Val, I'll let you know what I find out on Tuesday at my pre-op and then how things actually pan out. I know what you mean about most women having more cc's in their te. I think if I went too big, my boobs might get there before me and I certainly don't want that. Good luck to you!
HUGS to you ladies and have a great weekend, Dawn
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Ok.. here goes nothing,...
Ladies, I have posted all my pictures on the picture page.
It is under "Well Burnt" not under construction...
I hope this helps any lady who needs rads... had rads... or is worrying about her mast/Te/and rads....
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Hi everyone,
I have been reading this site for a while but too shy to join the discussion. Until someone asked about small implant at the other thread, I feel the responsibility to respond as mine are the smallest that my PS has ever used for resonstruction. I just wanted to say how helpful and wonderful this site is for my recovery journey. I had my exchange done in March and is still trying to learn loving my self more/again (that's how I come up with my user name here).
I wanted to share a website I recently found out. It is a lady who has decided to have bilateral mastectomy after she found she carries the genes related to breast cancer. She shares and explains the procedures she has done and pictures are there for illustration. It is helpful and she is wonderful. The address is:
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lovemyself, I tried to go to that site and it said is no lianne-bra2 at livejournal.com.
I'm glad you are able to come here and feel the camaraderie even if you don't post. I would have lost my mind without this site. What size are your implants? Are they in combination with a flap or just the implants?
Misty, thanks for the info on why your PS is using the textured implants. I guess I won't know my why until Tues. I'm not having any rippling with mine. At least not yet.
Dawn, I read somewhere on bc.org to use Nioxin shampoo and conditioner. Maybe it was on this thread. So hard to go back and find something. Anyway, I ran into my hairdresser yesterday. Haven't had to go see her for the past 8 months ya know. She also told me to use Nioxin formula 1. She said it would stimulate the circulation in my scalp and help the hair to grow faster and thicker. She also said hair needs oxygen to grow. Lose the cap. As far as brows and lashes, mine keep coming in and falling out. I'm 4 months past chemo and still don't have enough lashes for mascara. It will be nice when I don't have to draw my face on every day. I'm really not much of an artist.
Breastless, welcome to the textured club. 685 doesn't sound very small but every size looks different on different women.
Is the antibiotic before dentistry for major dental work or for anything, like cleanings and fillings?
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Hi Firni,
I have corrected the website address from my last post. You should be able to check it out. My implants are Allergan 410 gummies, mid-height, full projection, 255 cc. Don't be surprised, they have made me a small C cup already. I am 5'4" and 120 lbs. My ribcage is only 27". I was an A cup before BC. I am happy with the size right now, although I was nervous before the exchange wondering if they were way too small for "normal" recontruction.Now I understand that everyone is just different. I don't have any problem with the implants except they are really firm. I am fine with it because I don't need to wait for them settling and fuffling.
Forgot to mention: I have radiation on the right side when treated with the first cancer. When I found that I had cancer on the left side too, I needed to do bilateral mastectomy. For the right side, I did LD flap with implant because of skin damage from radiation. I have exactly the same size implant on the left side. Probably because I am thin and the flap doesn't provide much volume.
I happened to use Nioxin for several years as my hair is fine and thin. Nothing related to Chemo or cancer as my case is just genetic. I didn't see any difference and therefore stopped using it. However, it might help if it is not genes related. I do go to see a naturopath doctor who guides me what to eat and what to do to recover. I had gone through 3 surgeries and radiation treatment in the past two years and I really need to do something to get better. Within a month, my skin and hair, and also energy level have improved a lot. Our body is able to heal itself. We just need to pay more attention and care.
Good luck!
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Misty and others, it may have been mentioned, but one other thing to avoid before any kind of surgery is fish oil, for several weeks. My PS mentioned to me that one of his patience kept oozing during and after surgery, she finally admitted that she didn't head is warning about not taking it.
Heat wave here, too, hot and will be hotter.
Laura, glad to know the eyes are looking great and that it wasn't too difficult.
Motrin and Ibuprofen are other things my PS told me to avoid as they can cause some bleeding. Ok, my mind is boiled.
Good Luck ladies of the week:
7/27 - Firni - Revision on right side
7/30 - OncRN - Exchange to 600 cc style 20
7/31 - kbram - Exchange surgery
Hugs,
Karen
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Deborah and Laura, Thank you so much for the info on antibiotics. My regular dentist was clueless, but the Endodontist, who is performing the root canal knows my husband so he knew about my current health situation and put me on antibiotics. So, I should be ok. I don't know why my PS never bothered to mention any of this. I am so mad at myelf about this whole dental issue.I have had a dull tooth ache for so long, but I kept ignoring it as I just wanted to deal with the breast cancer first. So, in the long run, I did myself more harm.
Laura- Can't wait to check out your pics.
lovemyself- Welcome! You will love it here. These ladies are the best.
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Yes.. I was told I will need an antibiotic even before cleanings.. not everyone does this however... but I am going to.. I will do anything NOT to get implant infection....:)
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((Lovemyself)) Welcome and if you don't mind sharing your story; how much time lapsed between the first diagnosis of BC and the second breast cancer diagnosis? I am a "uniboober" and hopefully will not have BC show up in the other breast. How was the second cancer diagnosed, mammorgram, lump etc? Was it the same type of breast cancer in each breast? The reason I ask is that statistically according to my oncologist I have a 4% up to 10% greater risk for developing a new cancer in the remaining breast, than a woman that has never had breast cancer. Thanks for any information you can give me, if this is more than you choose to share, I understand. I will have the first mammogram in Oct. since the BC dx so hopefully everything will be negative.
((Linda54)) Thanks for the referral to the other website. I would prefer to avoid any complications with past hx of other issues and now add the implant thing.
((Laura)) Thanks for posting your pictures, I will try to visit that site on the main computer later. I did email my PS for all of my pictures so that I can post them. It really helps to see pictures of what is possible after a mastectomy. The gift you gave today is amazing, you are so unselfish and what a generous heart you have. Jan
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Hi Jan1,
My story is rather long. I am now 43. I had my first mammogram when I was 37 when I felt a cyst on my left breast. Both sides showed some abnormality (the cyst was not the problem) and I had to have mammogram and ultrasound every 6 months. Until May of 2007, something was not quite right on the right and I was recommended to do "more investigations". My family doctor and I agreed to wait for the next check-up because I had a biopsy twice on the left a year ago. The procedure was difficult and they couldn't confirm because the white dots shown on mammogram were tiny and scattered. I waited until September and the biopsy from the right confirmed DCIS. I was referred to the cancer center immediately and then did the lumpectomy. After that, I reminded my surgeon and radiation oncologist that my routine check up of the left was overdue. They both blieved that I could do the routine mammogram after I finished the radiation therapy. So I didn't insist on doing it at that time because there was healing to do on the right. My first follow up after all the treatment done (August of 2009) then confirmed my left side also had cancer. It was considered as a separate cancer as cancer cells don't spread to the other side.
I am not sure when the cancer cells showed up on the left side. If I found out before radiation, my treatment would be very different. I would have skipped radiation and had a straight forward bilateral mastectomy with implant reconstruction. I was upset with both doctors but they also mentioned that the chance to have cancer on both sides diagnosed within a year is very low provided I don't have any history in my family at all. I've read somewhere that the chance of having on the other side is 5% and it increases every year. However, having both at the same time is around 0.7%. Because of that, I was"qualified" to have genetic counselling and testing. However, since I am considered to be in remission, I am not on the priority list. My blood was taken in January this year and still don't know when I can see the report. If you are wondering why, well, I am from Canada. By the way, I had my mastectomy done in November and exchange in March. I am very well now. Other than the "missed routine check-up", the doctors are great and both surgeons did a great job.
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Laura, thanks for posting your pics. You do look ma'velous da'ling!
Karen, I never knew about the fish oil. My PS has like tons of things to avoid before surgery, but that wasn't on his list. Maybe not many of his patients use it.
lovemyself, you are a tiny little thing aren't you? 255cc's would be but a spot on my chest, but then I'm 5'10 140 lbs with a ribcage of almost 33. Sounds perfect for you.
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DENTAL PROCEDURES AND PROPHYLACTIC ANTIBIOTIC THERAPY
There are professional disagreements regarding prophy ABX therapy with dental procedures. Primarily it was undertaken to prevent bacterial endocarditis [those with cardiac issues] and then this sort of matriculated to the point that the widespread use of prophy ABX therapy was a concern from a "resistance" standpoint. The use of antibiotics with breast surgeries - certainly within three months of breast surgery - seems to be quite appropriate and recommended by many plastic surgeons. This is not to be considered a lifetime course to follow, although any history of bacterial infections with tissue expanders and/or implants would certain be cause for consideration of following a prophylactic administration of ABX therapy with dental procedures of significance.
From the American Board of Aesthetic Plastic Surgery:
Other Considerations for Breast Implant Surgery
- "After having breast implants, it may be recommended that you take prophylactic antibiotics when any dental work is done to protect the implant from infection for a short period of time."
From plastic surgeons:
http://dr-dowden.com/faqs/impldent.html
From another well-known breast surgery clinic in San Francisco:
http://www.womensplasticsurgery.com/postop_massage.htmlMost professional medical treatises will say that the risk of bacterial infection to implants is "rare" - it has occurred, but the risks are minimal. However, I could not find any medical treatises which addressed the use of prophylactic ABX therapy with dental work, performed within a close proximity to major surgery involving the breast, with foreign device implantation within that breast. This just seems entirely appropriate. I mean, lymphodema specialists recommend prophylactic ABX with dental work for their patients and I think that it just seems appropriate to be on the safe side of this issue, at least for the first year of our breast reconstruction journey.
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lovemyself: Well - WELCOME and we are glad you came out of lurking!!! I agree with Firni about the camaraderie! Most of us can say we came to this thread for the exchange but we stayed for the LUVVVV. You are a perfect example of how difficult it is to determine cup size and to predetermine how implants of any given volume will really respond. You have very small volume implants but your ribcage is very small - smaller than average - you and DANI!!! Oh, and Val - isn't your ribcage impossibly teensy also? I always tell my granddaughter about Ariel and Cinderella, with their beyond impossible figures - "okay, Kyla, no one has a ribcage like hers" - but look how wrong I am!!! LOL!
Laura - I'm going right now to look at your pictures!!!
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Laura can you guess what I did last night...
no it wasn't that ha ha
but I did jump up and down in front of the mirror
my BC side moves about an inch but my natural side moves about 3 inches
I'll have to check your pix out but I have to find my PM from timtam with info
I cleaned my computer so I can't get in like i used to
well it's after midnight and I plan to join some friends to go mountain bike riding in the morning so I better head up
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Laura: WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Go see my comments.
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Deen: Just caught something in your post a page back..
I think my implants have fallen some more. I will see my PS in Aug to see what I can do about this. I just wish they would sit up higher on my chest....
What kind of support bra are you wearing? I tell you, I have the same problem you have...but it has helped immensely to wear a bra or compression garment which will lift the implants up into the upper pole of the pocket....especially at night. You cannot just let them hang loose girl. You guys are going to laugh, but I might as well admit it because my roomies in Vegas are going to find out......Well, I sleep with a compression bra at night to keep the implants really high and I have a rolled up sock or sometimes an attractive roll of gauze in the middle of the cleavage, so that each girl is protected during side sleeping. VEWWY, VEWWY ATTWACKTIVE. My husband is a VEWWY lucky man.
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. maybe Deb is on to something.. why the sock in the middle?? To keep them separated?
Well.. after years of marriage... ... we can "enjoy the night".. and after... set up the sisters for more years of beauty and "enjoying the night"...
Heck... I have a face mask that has me looking like Freddy Crougar.......... dh loves looking at that...ROFLOL...0 -
Deb, LMAO!!!!!! I always have to wear a bra, they actually feel too heavy not to. But I have to admit I haven't been wearing one to sleep in. Is it helping? I'll have to look into some better bras or something.
Also, about the calcium/vit D testing, I'm not sure if they did that. I had a bone density test, and they did bloodwork, but that was at the same time as the Zometa IV. I didn't know they were going to do it that day, so I wasn't prepared at all. I like to do research on these things, and I had not been to the dentist yet since 1 year, and now I found out I should have had my dental work finished before starting Zometa. I made an appt with a periodontist, since they work with the bone more, but I still don't know if they'll be able to help me now. Oh well, it's in God's hands now.
I have to say, even after all of these surgeries and scars, my DH is still very attracted to me and my new ones. He's a blessing!
Good luck to the gals having their exchanges this week!
Have a great day,
Deen
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