Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?

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  • termite
    termite Posts: 238
    edited April 2016

    Good Morning Ladies,

    Welcome to all the newcomers.

    Carole, I hope your mother is doing better.

    Puffin and Sandr, you are in my thoughts and prayers

    Bonnets, I had similiar pains like that along time ago and it took the drs. 2 yrs to figure out it was my gallbladder.

    Anne, keep looking for your dress, you will find it when you least expect to and it will be exactly want you wanted.

    DH and I finally moved into our house on Tuesday and we were called home on Wednesday for a family emergency. I stayed here but dh flew out Thursday morning. We were having furniture being delivered on Thursday and a worker was coming to measure our extra bedroom for a murphy bed. The emergency turned out ok and Dh will be back on Sunday. Very interesting trying to find way home in the early morning hours from the airport in a new area. The kitchen is pretty much together and the living room furniture is set up. No tv yet, comcast has not come yet.Just a radio and crocheting to keep busy with after dark outside, The weather is great and I love sitting out on the back porch and eating breakfast. Sorry I haven't been on much lately but our computers are not working well right now. Some times we can get on and other times there is not connection.

    Have a great weekend


  • puffin2014
    puffin2014 Posts: 979
    edited April 2016

    I ended up going to the walk in clinic yesterday afternoon. All the tears had aggravated my eczema and my left eyelid was swollen, red, itchy way up to my eyebrow, and skin on my face was red and itching from my eye to my hairline. Dr said to quit using cold wet compresses - it felt good, and I thought it would decrease the swelling. He said it's like licking your lips, only makes it worse. I'm to use 1% cortisone cream on my lid for 5 days with generous aquaphor throughout the day. The intense itching does seem to be improving.

    Just spent 2 hours cleaning and sorting in the shop, found 5 rolls of 36 exposure film - anyone know where that can be developed? Taking a break and having some pumpkin bread and homemade grape juice. Then I'll load up the car and head for the recycling collection box.

    Finally got the title transferred to my name for his junker car and hope to get rid of that this afternoon. Found out I'm not the beneficiary of his 401K and the company won't tell me who is. Hope it's his kids, but I could save them a lot of hassle if they told me so I could tell them the kid's addresses and phone numbers. I got a call from the ND unclaimed checks office in response to my claim. I thought I was applying for all 7 uncashed checks and turns out I only applied for 1 so she's going to send the whole packet back to me with the additional 6 forms. The web site doesn't show the value of the checks, I almost fell off my chair when she told me they total $25,000.00. There's payroll checks going back over 20 years that he never got around to cashing.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2016

    Oh my goodness, Puffin. That is amazing about the checks. I'm so glad that you did what you did. I'm thinking in my grief and general frustration about ALL the work it takes to deal with un-expected events such as the loss of someone close I'd have probably just let it go never knowing what I was doing. I'm sure there is always solid reasons, but sometimes it does feel odd that different places can't give out SOME information. I mean, if things are a certain way ( something definitely in someone's name ) it can't be changed etc.

    Guess though these places have ways of getting information --- silly though it seems when someone is RIGHT there to provide it.

    You know, I'd have used cold compresses too I'm sure. So many times you'd like to avoid "medication" and more so if something like plain water could do. Hopefully the flare-up will subsist quickly now.

    Hope you are having some good weather there.

    Jackie

  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,105
    edited April 2016

    Puffin, When FIL died they found a year's worth of uncashed paychecks with the clothing he had packed for a flight to Washington, DC. Fortunately they were able to get the money.

  • ritajean
    ritajean Posts: 4,042
    edited April 2016

    Termite, glad you are getting settled in your new home. It's too bad that you had to come right back for an emergency but I'm glad that everything is O.K. now. Always good to see a post from you.

    NormaJean...I don't know the school name where my college girlfriend teaches. We only keep up with each other once a year at Christmas as she doesn't do Facebook or any of the social networking. If I remember, I'll ask when send the Christmas cards. Her last name is Morris.....ring a bell at all?

    Puffin....what a surprise about the checks! Wow! That will help!

    Today is a beautiful day. I have worked around the house all day. I decided that I could restore my metal patio furniture (table and 6 chairs) that was rusting and avoid buying a new set this year. I washed it all down, cleaned off all the rust and sanded it well and then spray painted it with a dark bronze metallic paint. It looks pretty good, even if I do say so myself! It took me all day because I had to stop every so often and stretch and walk because it was bothering my back to lean over that much for any period of time but it is done! YAY!

    Tomorrow I plan on hitting the golf course after church. Dave as left his taxes until the last minute...as always...and I really prefer to hide out somewhere while he's doing them. I think it will be a much more pleasant environment! :-)

    I'm off to made a gluten free cake now so we have something to snack on this week. Sometimes the gluten free things turn out good and sometimes they are best left on the shelf. This is a Pillsbury box mix so we shall see. It would be great if it was actually good. I keep searching for those good recipes.

    Everyone enjoy this lovely weekend.

  • bonnets
    bonnets Posts: 737
    edited April 2016

    Rita, I found a gluten free dump cake we all liked, made with GF yellow cake mix, canned peaches and crushed pineapple. think im gonna make it with just peaches next time. Gluten free is a challenge, especially when we travel. The chef on our favorite American Queen paddlewheeler is very good about making gluten free items. Add to that I'm also caffeine free, so no chocolate either. Really miss that!

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,666
    edited April 2016

    Anne, there's a chain of stores (online too) called “Rent the Runway." They feature rentals of designer dresses at up to a 90% discount from retail--and $100-150 will get you something that would be the envy of everyone at the wedding. If you're only gonna wear it once, might as well get maximum bang for your buck. (Men do this all the time for formalwear). You might also scrounge designer consignment boutiques--not as cheap, but you do own it outright once you buy it, but can also bring it back for consignment to recoup some of the cost.

    Puffin, a dermatologist friend once joked that his specialty can be boiled down to one saying: “if it's dry, wet it; if it's wet, dry it; otherwise prescribe a steroid." Funny how often what we logically think would work doesn't, and what does seems counterintuitive. Case in point--a few weeks ago I took a nasty spill and got a large scrape on the elbow of my lymphedema arm. Instinctively, I washed it and began treating it with antibiotic ointment and secure bandages, changing the dressings twice a day. When I packed for my Europe trip, I reasoned that the ointment would be easy to get over there (surely if stuff that's Rx-only here is OTC over there, then stuff that's OTC here would be OTC there as well), so to save space & weight I left it home. Wrong! In both the UK & Switzerland, antibiotic ointment is Rx-only, due to concerns about developing resistant bacteria. So all I could do till I got to Paris was use antiseptic and band-aids, and it simply didn't heal--in fact it was quite clearly getting infected, and it hurt like crazy to try to turn over in bed if I accidentally leaned on my elbow. Just before boarding the TGV in Lausanne, I asked the pharmacist at the train station, and after looking at the wound she urged me to find a doctor as soon as I arrived in Paris. At my Paris hotel, I asked the concierge about the nearest doctor--and he said my choices were either to kill an entire day at a clinic or pay at least $150 for a doctor to make a house call to the hotel. He suggested I walk around the block to the English-speaking drugstore and ask the pharmacist for advice. I did, and the pharmacist told me I was treating the wound incorrectly--“it needs to breathe, dry out, and scab over." He sold me an antiseptic spray, nonstick porous gauze pads, tape, and a tube of antibiotic ointment, explaining that in France licensed pharmacists have some leeway in selling stuff over-the-counter that would normally require an Rx--so he winked and also sold me--upon request--a Ventolin inhaler (“can't have you stressing out over this and getting an asthma attack") and a month's worth of Celebrex (“for the pain in your elbow"). He had me disinfect the wound, apply a dab of ointment, and loosely cover it with a single gauze pad, taping down only the corners and letting air circulate. It worked!

    (BTW, the brand-name Celebrex was $18, vs. $65 for the generic celecoxib here; the Ventolin $5, as opposed to $32 here. He drew the line at Fermara, Singulair, Benicar & Dexilant, though--can't win 'em all. One of the reasons France lets registered “pharmaciens" sell prescription meds at their discretion and at cheaper prices is that if not prescribed by a physician, a drug is not paid for by their national health system--and commercial pharmacists are not employed by the system either. Wonder how much money consumers, insurers, and the gov't could all save if the US adopted that policy)?

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,175
    edited April 2016

    Interesting experience at the pharmacy, ChiSandy. I have read and heard that Americans pay far more for prescriptions than Europeans. At the end of 2015, I had to pay full price for 6 Benicar tablets to finish out the year. I've forgotten what the cost was, but it was shockingly high. My discounted price picked up again at the beginning of 2016.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2016

    Learn to become still.
    And to take your attention away from what you don't want,
    and all the emotional charge around it,
    and place your attention on what you wish to experience.
    - Michael Beckwith

  • puffin2014
    puffin2014 Posts: 979
    edited April 2016

    yes, thanks for sharing your Paris story ChiSandy, it made several interesting points.

  • anneb1149
    anneb1149 Posts: 821
    edited April 2016

    Morning all,

    The wedding is less than two months away, and the siblings are starting to actually start planning for it!! There was a collective gasp heard from SC and Ga as well as locally. They are adding up the expenses they will have leading up to the big day. Of course, DD and DS have the cost of traveling down, which they knew. All had thought it was a great idea to stay at the hotel the night of the event, and now realize the room alone will cost over $200, not including parking. All the men in the family are in the wedding party and have found out the tux rental is $240.

    So, some alternate plans have been made at least as far as overnight accommodations. They are now looking for a 15 passenger van/ taxi that can get them there and back to my house. They figure that may cost $50/ couple which is way better than $200. My room is paid for as part of the package,but I don't know that I won't come home with my kids- I don't often have a chance to be with them all at the same time.

    Funny story re dresses. My DD and I went to Ross yesterday,just to look. I found two nice dresses, one navy blue, one mint green. Tracy found 5 - she's a size four so many more options. She tried one on and before she turned around for me to see it, she said, "wow, this would be great for Nancy (in GA)" I looked at her and saw Nancy. We quick sent a picture offto Nancy, she said she wasn't sure what size though, so we grabbed two sizes and are shipping them off for her to try tomorrow. She HATES shopping of all kinds, but clothes shopping is the worst. The only pro problem was one of the dresses I picked was the exact same as Nancy's so I am still on the hunt. Tracy tried on another dress that she said would be perfect for Jamie. Jamie is normally a great bargain shopper, but right now she is totally exhausted with baby Alex nursing every two hours. She is trying to fill a bottle of breast milk a day so Daddy can do one of the middle of the night feelings, but even when he does, Alex will not go back to sleep until Jamie nurses her. Jamie says it takes less than 5 minutes before Alex is out, but it interrupts her sleeping.

    As you know, Jamie took no down time to recover at all. I am so afraid she is going to crash, and badly. She is very pale, was astonished at how bad she looked when a friend took a picture of her and the baby the other night. She has lost 26lbs in the three weeks, because she is too busy to fix herself food, and says she cannot eat the amount of food she is supposed to every day. We try to help, by giving her all our leftovers when she comes by, and, of course, at least one meal while she is here. We wanted to cook up some meals for her freezer, but she has no oven to heat them in.

    Sandy, thanks for the tip on the website. I am going to try Marshall's and Kohl's today, then may have to widen the search areas.

    Anne

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2016

    Afternoon,

    I had a busy morning ( not hard mind you ) but a lot of catch up before going out to feed cats. Then with Dh in the car down to the garage where his truck is being worked on. It has been there now 3 full days. The man who owns the shop does good enough work, but this has always been my gripe --- he saves you money but at the cost of your time and often putting out others in some way to provide transportation. Sigh !!!! Don't know how tomorrow will go either, but likely hauling Dh to work and picking him up -- again.

    I'll try and be a good sport, but it does gripe me a bit. The garage owner knows that there is another 'family' vehicle and that Denny WILL make it to work, but I do find it all tiresome and often very cumbersome to work things around dealing with taking time to drive the 44 mile round trip to Mt. Vernon and back. Ok when I don't have to work but when I do it really gets dicey.

    Otherwise -- in the 80's here, and oh how nice that is. All this nice will bring rain but I went and washed my car anyhow. It was really dusty and had enough that it would have taken quite a storm indeed for it not to have streaked dirt marks here and there.

    Hoping you all have a great day.

    Jackie

  • anneb1149
    anneb1149 Posts: 821
    edited April 2016

    Jackie

    I'm sure I'm not the only one like this, but if my car is in the garage, I can go for days, perfectly content to putter around the house- but when it is in the shop, or one of the kids borrow it, I suddenly have places I need to go to, right now!

    Anne

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2016

    Anne, that is me inside and out. If my car is outside --- I could be in the house nearly forever. As long as I can go IF I need anything. Always great that my NEEDS don't interfere as long as the car is available, but if it is not there I tend to be a little edgy on the inside and don't seem to be able to push it down very far. I can think of all sorts of things I'm "likely" to need sooner rather than later --- even if there is a half a bottle of something left. I'm just sure something will happen and I'll run out. Dislike losing my sense of perspective and balance and becoming illogical if my car isn't outside.

    Jackie ( laughing of course )

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2016

    Acceptance is not a talent you either have or don't have. It's a learned response. My meditation teacher made a great point about the difference between a reaction and a response: You may not have control over your initial reaction to something, but you can decide what your response will be. You don't have to be at the mercy of your emotions, and acceptance can be your first step toward empowerment . . . For me, acceptance has been the cornerstone to my having an emotionally healthy response to my illness. -Morrie Schwartz

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2016

    The ideals that have lighted my way and , time after time, have given me new courage to face life cheerfully have been kindness, beauty, and truth.

    Albert Einstein

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2016

    Quiet here today. I hope everyone is fine. I worked this morning and hadn't the time to make any other entry save for the quote. I was a bit tired so curled up in my recliner and had a nap. We have had such beautiful days lately -- all sunny and warm. I think later tonight we will get some rain and some tomorrow as well. Doesn't sound like our temps will be too affected though. That is a good thing. Our trees are really starting now to pop out the leaves and the sun and warmth will keep them coming.

    I'm still so enjoying my car to the hilt. I have all sorts of cleaning things ( though I had a number of those already ) like a duster to do the outside of the car --- to cut down on needing car washes so often and in the store the other day I found Armor-All protectorant for the car interior which has New Car Smell in it. That made me happy.

    Right now, the pollen coming from the fresh new grass, trees and shrubs is making a somewhat yellow coating along with a bit of dust -- so a lot of outside dusting will take place. I'm just glad we are moving into weather that will be a little more consistently warmer. Hope you all have a great afternoon.

    Jackie

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,175
    edited April 2016

    Jackie, I washed my Prius this afternoon and vacuumed the carpets. It was a grubby little car. I came inside quite wet from perspiration. By then it was 5 pm and I decided that I had used up the energy I might have used for cooking. So we'll be ordering from Chili's and dh will go and pick up the order. Probably in my clean car! He was out in his workshop with the door open while I was laboring away and I'm sure he saw me but he did not appear to help.

    Minus lives in the Houston area but she said on another thread that her house is not located in a neighborhood that floods. We seem to be living in an era with extreme weather.

    Rita, I played golf today and my score was 10 strokes better on the back than the front. Needless to say the back nine was more fun.

    Hello to all.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2016

    Be grateful simply for being alive. When you are grateful for life, pure and simple, your life becomes one you can be grateful for. That may strike you as circular or even backward logic, but your attitude really does have an effect on how things work out. When you can't change your life any other way, you can still change your attitude. When you do, your life changes. You find more chances to love, and you will be surprised to see how much more love is returned to you. -Bernie Siegel

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,175
    edited April 2016

    A pretty sunny day here. Jackie would be happy! I went early to my PCP's office to have blood drawn. Then circled by the YMCA and got sweaty walking on the treadmill for 35 minutes. I didn't do my strength exercises today but plan to get them in when dh and I go to the gym tomorrow. We both played golf yesterday and didn't keep to our usual schedule of exercise on Tues. and Thurs. mornings.

    I learned from the young woman who drew the blood that I can drink black decaf coffee and still be "fasting." I stopped off at McD's after leaving the PCP's office and got a senior regular coffee. For those who haven't discovered this, McDonald's has good coffee at a much cheaper price than the coffee shops. A senior cup is 77 cents. A bargain! And you can get a free refill. Seniors can be cheapskates! I know I am when it's possible.

    Well, I need to get moving. Today and tomorrow I'm going to the nursing home to spend time with my mother, who has been doing very well with her rehab. We could all be inspired by this 93 year old who is working hard with the goal of going back to her house. Whether or not she's able to do that, she will be happier if she's able to accomplish lifestyle functions like getting herself to the bathroom.

    Wishing everyone a happy Wed.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2016

    Good morning ( though it has already rained out of doors and will keep on ) to all. I didn't have time to stop and chat earlier but am having a late breakfast now. Needed to get out and try to feed the feral cats before the rain. It may rain again tomorrow as well --- don't know the expected time period, so I wanted to be sure they got their food today just in case I can't go tomorrow.

    I didn't renew my gym pass as yet. With early Spring here --- I'm thinking there are some items that I likely should try to get caught up on or slightly ahead of if I can. If I'm not able or feel I'm falling too far behind with the guy --- I'll renew and hope for the best. It is $32.00 per month so about $1.00 per day --- a bargain in my book --- but not so good if you don't go every day you can. As is, I usually only go Mon. thru Fri. so I need to feel that I'm staying on that schedule as much ad possible.

    Carole, you are so right. Your Mom is a huge inspiration. I'm sure you are correct -- no matter how things go when rehab is over your Mom will feel better having climbed as far up the hill as she is able. I well recall my Mom ( not making deals mind you ) saying so often that she would be ok if she could just get used to and be able to not give up certain parts of the life she loved living, when she finally ( her last 10 mos. of life ) was diagnosed extremely late with the C.O.P.D. that took her life. She loved visiting with her family, watching the balloons at Balloon Fest, cooking and baking and her country music. She continued the whole time keeping her house clean and tidy and doing her laundry. She was not too prideful, but so enjoyed a REALLY clean environment ( coming as much from having worked in hospitals ( surgical suite ) a good part of her work life. She just worked a lot slower and rested for longer in between --- but she didn't have to give it up. She was thrilled when the Dr. told her she could cook ( I had been doing it for her ) with her oxygen on --- just to be super careful with the tubing.

    No matter where you are in life, there are just CERTAIN things that make your life good and soooo worth living to you, so here's to Carole's Mom. Little lady, I don't know you personally ( though I'm sure I'd enjoy every single moment ) but I'm so glad you are so willing to keep challenging life on your terms. You are a huge inspiration.

    Well -- I took up the extra floor mats I had in my car to wash and discovered something I don't have right now. A little broom and pan small enough for the spaces under where you put your feet while driving or being a passenger. These extra floor mats are actually cheap though nice, shag-type bath mats just almost the right size. They do not hold or stop a lot of the dirt --- but I had them in my Blazer and now this car. They are great for if you have wet feet from walking in the rain, or even a bit of mud stuck to your shoes. Then it doesn't get transferred so easy to your bigger car mats etc. When dirty, take them and shake them out and throw them in the laundry --- where mine are right now. My worst problem is Dh doesn't like to "check" and make sure he isn't kicking the extra mat all over --- which is actually sort of routine for him. He is normally fairly good about things like that but when I look down on his side --- it seems often the "mat" is all balled up and not doing very much good at all. Sigh !!! I know if that is all I can come up with......... There actually are a couple more things but we don't need to bother with them.

    Looking forward to getting my sun back.

    Jackie

  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,105
    edited April 2016

    Jackie, He needs to be sure that balled up mat doesn't get stuck under the brake pedal. That could be a disaster.

  • NormaJean65
    NormaJean65 Posts: 173
    edited April 2016

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2016

    Wren -- thanks. I do watch really closely when Dh is driving for sure. Don't know why but he seems better about it when he gets into the driver's seat. I have been so fussy about the new car that I haven't even made a payment on yet -- I probably should relax.

    NormaJean -- I know it seems to happen every yr. to places in Texas but the news stories were scary to me this time. It seemed like more than usual water was coming down. Sure hope you are all well on the way to receding waters and dryer land.

    Jackie

  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,105
    edited April 2016

    NormaJean, Did you get high water in Katy? I still can't believe people are stupid enough to drive around the barrier and sign. But every flood they do it.

  • NormaJean65
    NormaJean65 Posts: 173
    edited April 2016

    Wren44, our addition faired well considering everything. "Old Katy" had flooding. Katy schools have been closed all week. When I saw some of the aerial pictures it was absolutely mind-blowing. Some major roads are predicted to take 4-6 weeks to dry out. A couple of dams are 80 % full and old so there is concern there. I am thankful DH is retired & not commuting 25 miles one way. It has just now started raining . Grrrrr! People that have lived here for a while realize that there are extremely low places that the road (fwy) goes underneath another road/fwy they others are just too stupid to have a drivers license.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2016

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    We must work on our souls, enlarging and expanding them.
    We do so by experiencing all of life--the beauty
    and the joy as well as the grief and pain. Soul work
    requires paying attention to life, to the laughter and
    the sorrow, the enlightening and the frightening,
    the inspiring and the silly.
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    Matthew Fox

  • ritajean
    ritajean Posts: 4,042
    edited April 2016

    Bonnets...That gluten free Pillsbury Funfetti cake mix was pretty good. You might want to check it out. I don't think that I have ever seen a gluten free plain yellow cake mix. Is there a special place that you get it and would it be possible to PM me the recipe for that peach, pineapple cake? I am always searching for good gluten free recipes. My neighbor just came back home from Virginia and she brought me a whole bag of gluten free products from Trader Joe's. The guten free pretzels are wonderful....as were the chocolate chip cookies which I guess you can't eat. I'll let you know about the rest of the stuff as I get to it.

    Carole, I bet that back nine WAS a lot more fun. Ten strokes makes a big difference in your score! I played today. I couldn't wait to get back to Illinois to the grass. Now I find that I have to relearn how to hit off the grass instead of the hard ground. Getting out of the tough rough here is also another challenge Hey, there is always something to work on with our golf games, isn't there?

    Norma Jean... I was going to ask if you had any of the terrible flooding in Katy. The pictures of Houston on the TV were horrible! Glad it didn't hit your area as hard. Floods are so scary.

    My allergies are going crazy. My eyes are watering, my nose is running, and everything is draining. So far the "over the counter" allergy meds are not even making a dent in the problem. I love the spring in Illinois but this year there must be a lot more allergens in the air.

    Well, I need to get some dinner started around here but wanted to check in because I've been away from the site for a few days. Hope everyone is doing well!

  • bonnets
    bonnets Posts: 737
    edited April 2016

    Rita,

    The GF cake mix we have here is Betty Crocker, have Yellow, chocolate and brownie GF mixes. Only have sugar free Pillsbury here! Checked my mail, but the dump cake is on I think it's Gluten free Digest , website. I'll try and remember to send it to youwhen I get another post from them. It has tons of recipes. Glutino makes great chocolate, yogourt and plain pretzels. Also Schar has the best bread I have found, It's actually moist! I like Udi's chocolate chip and snicker doodles. Warm them in the micro for 5 sec each, yummy.

    Discovered I have gall Stones. I'm afraid of the surgery when I read that a lot of people continue to have pain as bad or worse than before they had the surgery. Also problems after, with diarrhea, which I have enough of with my IBS. Right now they aren't bothering me. Seems if it isn't one thing it's another.

    Lovely day had a volunteer breakfast and our sr. players also did one of our skit productions at a local senior residence. Tomorrow DH and I both go to the eye dr.


  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,666
    edited April 2016

    I had gallstones, twice. First time was back when I weighed 235 lbs. and open surgery was the standard procedure--surgeons HATED to do that operation on obese patients because of how many layers of visceral fat needed to be sliced and how long the patient was under general anesthesia. Second time, only 6 years later (and 20 lbs. lighter), laparascopic cholecystectomy had become state-of-the art. 4 little incisions, closed with one suture and a band-aid each. Took about as long as the average colonoscopy does today. Never again had that intensity or kind of abdominal pain since my lap choly. The only time I get digestive distress from not having a gall bladder is if I go overboard with too much fat in too short a time. I think that may have happened to me maybe 3 or 4 times since 1994.