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Yes Spring you are glowing! So happy that the worst is behind you now. Onward!
I met with a new ND today. Talked for two hours! He seems to be great in many areas, but as usual, he does not really get the whole picture, so I guess I will continue with several docs instead of 1. He does have a great detox program that I hope to try after the holidays. And he is trained in acupunture so I asked him about the lympedema thing. He said if done properly, it should not be a problem to do acupunture. He has done it on people who actually had swelling. He just has to be careful. But he seemed to feel it was no problem for him. I think I might try the acupunture after the holidays too. I still have a sinus issue.
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Hello Ladies
Spring-I love your new Pic
. Very Beautiful.Well Ladies, I have my Breast implants surgery tomorrow at noon. This is (Hopefully) my final surgery of this journey. Oh and Terri, I was also asked not to take my Vit E, D3 or my Garlic. Like you, I feel vulnerable also
. I understand about the Vit E and Garlic, but not the D3, so I have continued to take that supplement. When my Aunt went in for her uni mastectomy, the Doctor's did not say anything about her stopping her Progesterone cream and she did very well during and after surgery(hope this helps). I am also hunting for an ND. I would really like to find one soon.
Jenny.
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Here is a topic that has been in my head(no pun intended) for quite a while now and I am finally checking into it. I have had post nasal drip for years and nothing seems to help. Believe me, I have tried almost everything, and I will not resort to surgery as was recommended because it does not have a high cure rate. I have a deviated septum, but I think it is something else. Well, in my research I read that there is a link between breast cancer and root canals, and amalgam fillings, so I found a holistic dentist who specializes in this and went to see her. I am not sure I will be able to afford to have the mercury and root canal tooth taken out, it is unbelievably expensive. But the dentist gave me a book to read called "Uninformed consent, the hidden dangers in dental care" by Dr. Hal Huggins and Dr. Thomas Levy.
This book is such an eye opener! I was told that the mercury becomes inert once it solidifies but they have tested and found that mercury will still leech out with certain foods. So I will get my metals tested before I make this decision. If it looks like I have a lot of mercury, I guess I will have no choice but to find a way to get them out. I wonder if we should do a poll here about how many of us have had root canals?
Here is an excerpt from the begining of the book, which I thought would really hit home with all us natural girls:
Freedom of choice is a cornerstone of democracy. That each individual should decide the course of his or her own life is an ideal most people cherish. Making good choices requires more than freedom however. A meaningful choice also requires individual knowlege and acces to being aware of the alternatives available to them and witout knowing of the consequences of their options. American law recognizes and supports this philosohy through the doctrine of informed consent.
. . . Many of dentistry's materials are toxic and regulated in the environment as hazardous substances. In a patient's mouth, however, these same materials are hardly regulated at all.
How scary is that! We are walking around with all this mercury in us. No wonder we are all getting cancer! Just one more toxin in our bodies that our immune system has to fight off. So again I ask you all, Do you have a lot of mercury fillings and have you ever had a root canal!!!
Oh, and Crunchy:
There is a whole chapter on how these toxins effect fertilty, cause miscarriage and birth defects. You need to read this book!
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Oh, and Crunchy:
There is a whole chapter on how these toxins effect fertilty, cause miscarriage and birth defects. You need to read this book!
WOW -- thank you for recommending it -- I will definitely be reading this!! THANK YOU!!!
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before my recent surgery, the only thing I stopped was the gamma E and the fish oil, I continued with everything else.
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Vivre...thanks for the eye opener! My ND had mentioned having my mercury fillings removed - I have 6 of them! VEry expensive as you mentioned but something worth saving for. I'm going to have mine removed in the New Year....I coming up to 4 surgeries this year and can't fathom having anything else done to me until 2010 !
Terri
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Terri,
for my recent surgery, I stopped Iodoral a few days prior and 2 weeks after, per Dr. Flechas (he said it interferes with development of scar tissue). I also stipped Vit E, Aspirin, and fish oil, all known to increase chances of bleeding.
I kept taking green/white tea, buffered C, Turmeric, Vit D, DIM, probiotics, lipoic acid, the ATP cofactors, Magnesium, Selenium, Quercetin Forte, and L-Glutamin. I am also continuing these after surgery. At 2 weeks after, I will start adding back in all the other supplements that I take.
I did fine, and the ones I chose were the ones my osteopath recommended to help recover from surgery. Hope this helps!!! 4 surgeries!!! (Are they all dental???)
Murcury fillings, AHHHHHHHHHHHck!!!! I probably have a slew. Good GRIEF, does it ever end.... sigh.
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Spring,
Are you using arnica and bromelain after Stage 2? My bruises dissolved in record time with those.
Anne
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Anne, what is arnica and bromelain? a pill, cream? Never heard of either. and I NEED HELP, these bruises are now turning technicolor!!!0
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Spring - the 4 surgeries were all BC related. Thank God my teeth (apart from the 6 fillings) are in good shape!
Thanks Jenny, I'll keep using the progesterone cream. I hate to stop, I just got started!
Terri
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Springtime,
A few links for arnica and bromelain.
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Viv - As far as having your ND not getting everything, I feel much more secure seeing more than one doctor. I have a team of three that I have put together and feel like between all of them, I am covering my bases. They have slightly different perspectives and I feel that they are all very knowledgeable and a great deal of help to me in my journey. I don't know if I would feel comfortable relying on only one doc to cover all of my needs. Just my opinion.
I had a bilateral U/S today. The radiologist was very good and wondered why I wanted the US and not mammo. She understood my reasons and very thoroughly did an exam. She also had a tech in her office do an exam. She said eveything looks fine, nothing suspicious and to f/u in 6 months. PHEW! Another screening looking good. But, I have to say I am still paranoid and still going to use as many screening methods as I can to monitor the situation. Even the doc understood this as I told her both my husband and I were diagnosed this year.
Here is to a healthy, worry free 2010 for all of us!
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Fairy-I caught some of that tribe in America show you talked about. It was the show when they came to the midwest. It was really interesting the way they all bonded. Can't wait to see the next one where they go visit the millinaires in Orange county! If they got upset about the factories in the midwest I wonder what they will think about botox.
Deni-good point about having different doctors for different things. I notice that they charge different prices for the tests too, so I will shop for the best the deal. LOL I have a huge deductible so tests are out of pocket for me, but it evens out because we pay a low premium this way. It is nice to have the choice at least. So glad your tests are coming back with good results. Hope DH is on the mend too.
Time for a group prayer hug tomorrow at noon for Jennii. What time zone are you in?
Terri-I saw this show called "the incurables" on an alternative health channel I get called Veria. They did a show about a teenager from the Montreal area who had 3 different cancers and the doctors gave her a few days to live. Her family took her to a microbiologist whe was experimenting with a drug he called 714-x. Combined with acupunture and diet, she was cured and is now the mother of 2. Here is some info on it:
http://cancer.ucsd.edu/Outreach/PublicEducation/CAMs/714x.asp
I just do not understand why things like this are not tried BEFORE chemo. If they have no side effects, why not give them a try. They contend that there are no clinical trials, well then do one! What is the rush to do chemo when something like this could be tried first? If it does not work, then what has been lost? This girl was told to go home and die and instead she fought and won. I am so sick of solutions being out there but are not allowed because they have not undergone clinical triials. Only drug companies can afford to fund these trials. Cheap alternatives just never get the chance to see the light of day. I would love to see more about this girl. Have you ever heard of her?
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Gosh to I have a horror story!! Didn't know where else to post this! A friend of mine is a long distance truck driver, he picked up a delivery of paper (huge rolls of the white paper) to deliver, he gets to the factory and just casually asked them what they use the paper for........the guy says....food...my friend said what do you mean "food" he said that they shred the paper up and then refine it down to a powder to be used in food products, biggest customer.....KRAFT!!! luckily I have never been a big fan of processed packaged food items, but holy crap!! are you friggin kidding me!!! I don't know why I am so blown away by this, but I feel totally sick to my stomach...
L
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The bromelain can be found in a bunch of different fruits, a large amount can be found in pineapple. Drinking or eating a lot of pineapple before and after surgery will help speed up cellular recovery and works as an anti-inflammatory. Ive been drinking pineapple juice but diluting it down because it's way to sweet for me. I month til bmx. Yikes.
Fairy - that is gross! ...but does not surprise me at all. Is it used in actual food products, like a starch, or the packaging for food products?
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Fairy -- my JAW is on the floor. I just read that out loud to my husband. He said he's not surprised because Kraft has a long history of putting TOTAL GARBAGE in their food. I remember someone telling me that they put saw dust in breakfast cereal and I laughed at the idea, it was so silly. Now, I'm not laughing -- I know what garbage they put in food so nothing surprises me any more!!
Okay, girls, no one replied to my little rant about alternative medicine vs. quackery. I wrote that because I get the impression some people come in (sometimes trolls, but sometimes very sincere people) and think we're all against ALL medical treatment and we all go get injected with Indonesian goat hoof powder and meditate on crystals in our belly buttons and think we're going to get cured of cancer that way. I wanted to try to explain our view of alternative/complementary medicine and how it's not quackery. Was I off base? Please feel free to correct me if I said anything wrong!
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in the food!!!! yikes!!! for instance their cheese like products have paper in them!! they use it as a filler! I am beyond mortified!!
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Fairy - GROSS! But, sadly, not surprising. Glad I eat NO MORE processed foods these days. Cooking from scratch takes longer but I know that my family and I are benefiting greatly! ICK!
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Crunchy - I don't think you were off base, I just think that the people who come here are here because they believe in what we are doing and our lifestyles. The ones that come and pick on us are not going to change their attitudes because of anything we may say. I think you are incredibly sincere and caring for trying to reach these people, but you may not get the response you had hoped for. Nice of you to try, though!
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Deni - true... true... oh well, I guess it's out there in case anyone GENUINELY is mistaken about what we're all about and is open to learning that the "Cancer Industry Approved" way isn't always the only or even the best way.
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Deni, thanks for reposting those links. But what I'm getting from reading those is that women who are at high risk for developing breast cancer and could take tamoxifen as a preventative medication are not choosing to take it. This makes perfect sense to me, why take a pill to prevent something that might never develop and that could cause all kinds of bad side effects. It's kind of like removing body parts prophylactically in case they may someday become cancerous.
I'm wondering how many women who are prescribed tamoxifen to prevent reoccurrance are choosing not to take it. I don't think this study really addressed that aspect.
Fairy, I can't believe that, so glad that I was never a big fan of processed foods, always liked my kids to eat healthily. I did grow up eating that stuff fairly often though, hamburger helper is one that comes to mind, yuck!
Has anybody heard about the new study that just came out yesterday saying that soy has been found to be beneficial in preventing breast cancer, unlike previous studies saying just the opposite? This really doesn't seem like new information to me though, because I've been hearing conflicting views on it for awhile now.
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Dear rgiuff,
I get the OncologyStat newsletter, and this just came today on Tamoxifen.
What Patients Are Reading Worries About Tamoxifen's Adverse Effects Prevent Women From Taking It Worries About Tamoxifen's Adverse Effects Prevent Women From Taking It 20091104 2009 Dec 4 As Reported by HealthDay News
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Worries About Tamoxifen's Adverse Effects Prevent Women From Taking It As Reported by HealthDay News. 2009 Dec 4Concerns about tamoxifen's adverse effects may prevent many women from taking the drug, even though they are at high risk for breast cancer recurrence. In an effort to help women better understand the risks and benefits of tamoxifen treatment, researchers at the University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center created a decision aid. The aid helped women make a decision about treatment by providing information on tamoxifen and generating a risk/benefit analysis based on their own individualized factors, such as age, race, breast cancer history, and medical history. The decision aid was tested in 632 women with a history of breast cancer. The results of the study found that the women demonstrated a high degree of understanding about tamoxifen, with 63% correctly answering 5 out of 6 questions about the drug and 41% getting a perfect score. However, when it came to actually taking tamoxifen, only 6% said they probably would. A relatively small percentage of the women, 29%, expressed an interest in seeking more information about tamoxifen or talking to their doctor about it. At follow-up 3 months later, fewer than 1% of the patients were taking tamoxifen, and fewer than 6% had sought more information or discussed the drug with their doctor. For 80% of the women, concerns about tamoxifen's adverse effects had deterred them from taking the drug. Common adverse effects from tamoxifen include hot flashes and sexual problems; less common (or rare) adverse events include blood clots, cataracts, and endometrial cancer.The research results were published in the December Online First issue of Breast Cancer Research and Treatment. I know that I have articles which speak to the fact that Tamoxifen is "turning" on women, and when they have a recurrence or another primary, if they had been dx with BC+ at first dx, the second time they are dx with TNBC. I just found the article to which I was referring!! It was in the NY Times. Sorry but I don't have a link for this one.Tamoxifen Linked to Higher Risk of ER-Negative Breast CancerAs Reported by The New York Times. 2009 Aug 25 A population-based study has revealed that tamoxifen, given as adjuvant therapy for estrogen receptor (ER)-positive breast cancer, can increase patients' risk of developing an aggressive, ER-negative tumor in the contralateral breast. In the study, conducted among 1000 women diagnosed between the ages of 40 and 79 years, the risk of this uncommon cancer was 4 times higher in tamoxifen-treated patients than in patients who had never received tamoxifen. This newly identified risk needs to be balanced against the well-established benefits of long-term tamoxifen therapy in breast cancer. The purpose of giving long-term tamoxifen therapy is not so much to prevent a second breast cancer as to prevent metastasis of the breast cancer to the bones, liver, and lungs. Long-term tamoxifen therapy reduces the incidence of such metastases and improves overall survival.In the study, tamoxifen therapy for less than 5 years was not associated with an increased risk of ER-negative breast cancer. Also, the number of women who developed the ER-negative cancer in the opposite breast was small, only 1 in 7 women. The study did confirm the benefits of long-term tamoxifen treatment. Women in the study who received tamoxifen therapy for 5 years or more had a 60% lower risk of ER-positive cancer developing in the contralateral breast, compared with women not treated with tamoxifen. Nevertheless, the new study findings are cause for concern, because ER-negative breast cancer is difficult to treat and has a poor prognosis. The research results were published in the August 25 issue of Cancer Research.
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Nan - can you post the entire article if it is not too long? When I follow your link, it takes me to a sign in page.
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I will be making a conscious effort to wish everyone A Merry Christmas this year ... My way of saying that I am celebrating The birth Of Jesus Christ. Maybe we can prevent one more American tradition from being lost in the sea of "Political Correctness".
Peace, Love & Excellent Health,
Patty
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I will be making a conscious effort to wish everyone A Merry Christmas this year ... My way of saying that I am celebrating The birth Of Jesus Christ. Maybe we can prevent one more American tradition from being lost in the sea of "Political Correctness".
Peace, Love & Excellent Health to all.
Patty
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Same to you Patty, my "breast friend"!
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Thanks Deni!!!!
To all you wonderful ladies: I thought it would be fun to share some of our favorite things for Christmas gifts to one another. I will start.
Greenology organic all-purpose cleaner degreaser (I get it at Lowes)
Burt's Bees very volumizing shampoo
Crest Glide comfort plus mint floss (it does not shred!)
Spectrum organic coconut oil
MERRY CHRISTMAS
Patty
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A few of mine are:
The Republic of Tea - Double Green Matcha Tea
Burt's Bees lip balm for my dry winter lips!
365 Coconut Oil from Whole Foods (as a moisturizer)
Spectrum Extra Virgin Cold Pressed Olive Oil
Fresh organic (as much as possible) fruits and veggies!
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!
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Saw this headline from NutraIngredients this morning:
Kraft Foods sells Balance Bar as sector saturates
By Mike Stones, 04-Dec-2009
Related topics: Industry
Reflecting saturation of the health bar market, Kraft Foods has sold Balance Bar to private equity firm, Brynwood Partners for an undisclosed figure nine years after acquiring the brand for a reported $268m.Maybe the Balance Bar will now be safe to eat! No more paper fillers!
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Just got the results of my full body scan- Nothing remarkable. What a relief!
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I will be making a conscious effort to wish everyone A Merry Christmas this year ... My way of saying that I am celebrating The birth Of Jesus Christ. Maybe we can prevent one more American tradition from being lost in the sea of "Political Correctness".