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Dear robyn33,
I think I was way off base assuming this was a vitamin D test.
Perhaps this will help you decipher the results? This was a 2/16 test?http://www.naplespainrelief.com/uploads/Estronex_SS.pdf
http://www.metametrix.com/DirectoryOfServices/pdf/pdf_sample_0142EstronexProfile-Urine.pdf
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My ND told me that Quest has supposedly fixed the problems with their test and that recent ones are supposed to be accurate. Well, I think we should all get a refund for the last ones! In fact, I am going to ask them for one.
Robyn, your are referring to the hormone test, not the Vit d test??? I got my hormone tests done from Genova, not quest. According to my doctor, who interpreted it for me, the number to look at is the 2:16 hydroxy ratio. This is what is says on my summary sheet:
The 2:16 alphhydroxyestrone ratio appears from the literature to be an important gauge of estrogen metabolism. In general, the higher the ratio, the less association there is with estrogen dependent diseases such as breast cancer and lupus, and the more likely the person has a beneficial hormone metabolism. A 2:16 ratio greater than .4 is generally thought to be beneficial.
Indole 3 carbinols from cuciferous vegetables impove this ratio in the same way that tamox does, with no side effects. Bottom line, eat your broccoli and you will not need any drugs.
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I heard about that study concerning the cereal box and the cereal too. It seems to me that I read that it was indeed someone's science progect.
Spring, as soon as I run across whatever I wrote the name of that supplement on , I will tell you. LOL
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Wait, doesn't Coca-Cola already look like nasty and brown and taste like acidified sugar water?! ..it started with lime, water, sugar cane and cacao leaves and now look at the label.
hence my efforts to go "Little House on the Prairie"-lol - Im wearing my virtual prairie bonnet as I type this and dream of the day we build our greenhouse so I can use purified water for the plants.
Question about two things. First is Dr. Weil- what do you all think of him? I read a Q&A with him and he seems more conventional than alternative. He responded to the alkaline-acid diet that it's bogus. I was looking into getting into it but I can't find a good site or a good book w/o conflicting information all over the net- does anybody have any recs? The second thing is vibrational therapy, any good recommendations on seminars or cds? Dr. Weil also stated that it's a waste of money - from a organ or tumor healing perspective yet he didn't touch at all on the fact that it would be beneficial to meditate to or to relax to. I thought his answers were somewhat stifling. He had an interesting theory on the law of attraction which I found interesting.
*edited to correct Dr.s name - Dr. Klein was my eighth grade dentist!
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PS- I read the book "The Ultimate pH Solution" by Michelle Schoffro Cook, DNM, DAc. It basically says to cut out processed foods and sugar as these are the biggest acid producers. You can borrow it if you like!
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PS73, my Osteopath has me doing the alkaline diet, and checking with the pee strips. I find it so simple. I now drink green tea rather than coffee (wihich is acidic) and if I eat a mostly plant based, whole foods diet, I am always in the range of 6.5 - 7.5 (generally 6 - 6.5) which to me is close enough. I also eat eggs, some cheese, chicken, occasional red meat. In moderation these things do not impact the ph balance. I continue to do it b/c this is the way I want to eat anyway.
It was interesting to me that just eating a healthier diet, and make a few small tweeks (like the tea vs. coffee) sort of automatically put me in the right ph range.
If i eat lobster (acidic) or too much junk,the strip shows more acidic.
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Deni, yes, please. Hopefully soon we can meet up since we are literally one town away from eachother - craziness! Would be cool to do that yoga class together!
Wow, good advice Spring. So do you guys feel better from the diet? Have you noticed any difference? I cut out red meat and was doing turkey but got tired of it and found a good veggie to swap it out for -portobello mushrooms. They absorb spices and sauces better than chicken and almost like tofu, and if you cut it into chunks it will stay rigid during cooking. I made a delicious dinner last night with chopped mushroom, garlic, kale, tomatos and sunflower oil over jurusalem? and artichoke flour linguini. - tiny tiny bit of parm cheese and iodized salt. Is that a good one for the pH diet? I loved it and the mushrooms gave such a nice (almost squid inky) sauce.
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Definitely good advice, Spring... seems eating good whole foods, heavy on the veggies, automatically balances out our pH and everything else!
I made a delicious dinner last night with chopped mushroom, garlic, kale, tomatos and sunflower oil over jurusalem? and artichoke flour linguini.
Stop, stop!! I am CRAVING this now!!!! (I'm a mushroom FREAK, especially portabellos... yum yum!)
So do you guys feel better from the diet? Have you noticed any difference?
I am not only feeling a lot better, my husband is too (even though he hasn't made all the changes I have). We're both losing weight, sleeping better, and have a lot more energy during the day. And, um, he and I aren't ones to chit-chat about bowel movements or anything, but he cracked me up the other day when he shouted from the bathroom, "Wow, this organic food thing really makes you crap a lot better!!!!!"
(heh heh, I'm sure he'd really appreciate knowing I posted that on the Internet!!!!!) 0 -
LMAO and YES would love more energy and more importantly better quality sleep!!!
So Julia, you are also doing the pH diet, then? I am really curious in particular to the pH alkaline-acid diet and how lots of ppl felt on it. I imagine an overhaul of better eating, less caffeine, less alcohol and more exercise would prob put you on the road to feeling a hell of a lot better but some ppl swear by keeping your body rid of dis-ease by creating an alkaline environment inside. Others don't and one marine ecologist quoted that a shift in a pH within just a few tenths of a percent could change the ocean dramatically so to be careful doing this diet. So I just want to make sure to get feedback first. ..were there any detox symptoms or other ailments from the pH diet? How about other positives?
..I am sorry for being really annoying about this
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I'm not doing a specific pH diet per se... just naturally eating more alkalizing foods (most fruits/veggies) rather than acidifying as part of an overall anti-cancer diet. Like you said, exercising and cutting down on caffeine and alcohol in themselves apparently raise the body's pH naturally, so whether that's the specific goal or not, greater alkalinity seems to be the result either way.
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I am not doing a specific pH diet either. But, since I cut out the crap, I feel better, lost weight and my pH has adjusted to a much more healthy alkaline place. PS, did you read "Anticancer" by David Servan-Shreiber? That is a great book also and he gives lots of recommendations for food that are cancer fighters. I can lend that to you also (as soon as I get it back from a friend I have lent it out to).
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My whole theory is that I try something that I read about, and if it makes me feel better, then I will go with it. There is no one size fits all, and there is no perfect diet. The key is variety. I eat a little meat, but make sure it is organic, hormone free. etc. I try to change things up so I do not get bored. I am however really bummed that my dentist told me no fish last week. I love fish. She says it has too much mercury. I read that the little fish have less, so I am sticking to them for now. I will get a heavy metals test done in Jan and see how toxic I am before deciding on the teeth surgery and whether or not I can eat some fish. I think once a week is okay.
And I love those mushrooms too! I am thinking about growing my own. Anyone ever try this? I know they sell the spores and you just need a cold dark space. I have plenty of that!
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I eat fish a couple of times a week. The deep water fish, like wild salmon, are rich in omega 3s and not as high in mercury as some other fish (like swordfish, mackeral, etc.) Occassionally, I eat tuna and even a canned tuna that a doctor recommended because it is lower in mercury. I have tried it and must say it puts StarKist to shame. It is delicious and low in mercury! More expensive than StarKist, but no comparison!
Growing your own mushrooms? Wow, that sounds interesting. Let us know how it works out if you try it. We have plenty of cold and dark in NJ this time of year too!
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ps73, you wrote: "First is Dr. Weil- what do you all think of him? I read a Q&A with him and he seems more conventional than alternative".
Yes, that's one side of Dr. Weil that bothers me, as well. And I wrote him a strong letter when he published an article in support of the HPV vaccine for all young girls, which I think is criminal.
However, I think that, overall, he does a good job out of researching his information in the area of nutrition and supplements, more so than Dr. Mercola, but I do read both web sites and I do remain open to new findings/opinions.
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Cool info guys. Deni no, I didnt read that yet. That website is interstesting - taken directly from it regarding tuna: The longer the fish has been in the ocean, the more time it has to accumulate mercury. Our fish are young - mostly 2, 3 and 4 year old fish have not had the time to accumulate mercury as compared to the large amounts of mercury found in the large old fish favored by major canners. The younger fish swim closer to the surface of the water, which is where we fish; while the older fish swim closer to the ocean floor. I used to eat tuna fish on wheat about 3-4x a week about three to four years ago and then stopped because of the mercury levels. Now Im curious how long these metals stay in our systems? I thought the ND ran a test but she did not so I need to get the metals test done and possible chelation therapy following.
Yaz - I was just put off that he insisted that vibrational therapy was a waste of money instead of being open to it for meditational purposes.
Viv - no I haven't tried it yet but always thought about it since we have an abundance of mushrooms in our yard and I figure it's a good climate for it.
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I've thought about trying to grow mushrooms... we have at least 15 different varieties that grow naturally in the woods on our property, so I can't imagine that it would be hard to grow some good cancer-fighting edible varieties.
About Dr. Weil... I was an early fan of his. Recently, I learned something about him that made me think "Oh wow... he's sold out" and lose respect for him... for the life of me I can't remember what I found out (it has to do with the global elite/Big Pharma/Big Food -- maybe I found out he's a member of the CFR? anyway, I'll post here once I think of it). I still have his first book and it's all solid advice, but I'm more cautious of anything he says now. I am astonished though that even he would come out in favor of the HPV vaccine!! Yikes. (Watch, Big Pharma/Big Food are going to try to go after Mercola next. Their MO is to 1) try to buy off an influential person who goes against their agenda, so that suddenly, like magic, they're mixing in some pro-Big Pharma propoganda in with their otherwise good advice; or 2) if they can't be bought off, they will try to shut them down.)
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I grew my own shitake mushrooms last year. I'll try to find the site that I ordered from. I had a great crop of mushrooms. My kids thought I was losing it...growing "grass"(wheatgrass) upstairs and "shrooms" (the shitake mushrooms) downstairs. Only healthy "grass" and "shrooms"...nothing hallucinogenic. LOL. The mushrooms were really good. They grow on a sawdust block. I got two batches of mushrooms in about a 6 week period of time. Vivre, so glad you reminded me. I'd like to order another kit. I think the site is www.fungi.com. They were very easy to grow.
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My osteopath does not like me eating "big fish" either. Mercury.
But you know, sometimes I eat fish! I mean, there would be NOTHING LEFT TO EAT if I avoided what every person says!!!
Here is what I try to do:
- Plant based, whole foods
- Low red meat
- Low sugar
- Low processed foods
- No alcohol
- Low dairy
- Supplements
- Exercise
- Serenity practices (Yoga, meditation, prayer)
Has anyone figured out how to eat more beans? I really need more beans, and I am having a real issue incorporating them. I would love any advice. I NEED TO EMBRACE MY INNER BEAN!!!! help...
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Spring - beans are easy. I add garbanzo beans to salads, make lentils (an old recipe my grandmother used to make), black bean soup. The other day I made a three bean soup that was very easy and delicious. I can post the recipe if anyone is interested.
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I will add to Deni's list: Nachos, bean tacos, bean dip, & 3 bean salad,
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I remember someone mentioning ConsumerLabs. I have subscribed, so if you have a question on a product, I can look into it and "cut/paste" the answer if you want me to.0
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An article from Cancer Decisions, Ralph Moss' site, regarding seaweed and mentions it's benefits against breast cancer:
http://www.cancerdecisions.com/content/view/324/2/lang,english/
Also, check out his new blog, available through this list as well. One of the topics is insensitivity of oncologists.
Happy Sunday to all!
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A few more ways to use beans...Hummus is a very handy snack, beans with any greens are divine! (Kale, spinach, chard, beet greens), beans are also easily sprout-able which is a very alkaline and enzyme rich way of using beans (if you like that sort of thing...not for everybody, i think!)
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Once you start looking for bean recipes, you'll find tons! I've found black-eyed pea salads, wild rice and chic pea salads, pasta with white beans and greens, curried chick peas, and my simple favorite--sauteed zuchini with basil. tomatoes and kidney or black beans over brown rice.
Anne
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Oh - yukky beans.... I love my fresh green beans in the summer, but come winter and dried bean season... I have trouble!
I do like a nice pot of baked beans, though. Butter beans once in awhile are ok. And chili.
You can also grind the beans to a powder, and then use them like flour as a thickener -
in soups and the like.
My new number one diet rule: if you don't like it, don't eat it.
Number 2 diet rule: No fart food.
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..not sure what happened, I wrote and went to post and my comment disappeared.
Thanks for the info Spring, with all these recipes I really want to make beans tonight. ..if you buy the goya dried beans, it's less processed and more economical. Soak them the night before in cold water and the next am, rinse. If you have a slow cooker you can throw them in it with about a cup or two of water and cook on low all day w/ some spices. Or boil them for a about ten minutes and switch to low and simmer for an hour. Mix with salsa/chopped tomatos, sauteed onion, chili powder and brown rice. You can stop there which is filling and delicous or continue and add ground beef/turkey, shredded cheddar cheese and sour cream and you have a wonderful cuban dish, frijoles negros con carne con arroz. Im sure I butchered the spelling and grammar there.
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Merilee and Deni Anne and Suzanne PS, would you please post your BEAN recipees or PM them to me?
And do you worry about canned beans and the plastic liners and PBA or whatever it is? I tried to do dried beans, and just hated it, they tasted so "green". OH PS, I did not COOK THEM after!!! So you soak and then need to COOK, oh doy. (I am clearly a bean novice!!)
We do eat humus, a lot actually, but it looks fatty to me, compared to just regular beans!
I do really need to do more beans. I appreciate your help. I think PS the slow cooker was what I missed...
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the 2:16 ratio is very significant, its important to maintain the correct ratio, the 2 hydroxyestrone is the "good" one, the 16 hydroxyestrone is the "bad" one, which will convert to estridiol which causes all of the estrogen dominance issues. My tests were done by genomic also, I have the paperwork at home, (I am at work right now), but will check out the ratio when I get home.
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I try to stay away from canned and use dried beans, soaked overnight and cooked. It definitely takes longer, but I am into natural these days and I don't like to use a lot of canned stuff. Our recycling has been decreased to an eighth of what it used to be prior to dx! Hummus is actually great for you. Just be sure the brand you buy doesn't have junky ingredients. They sell an organic brand at A&P near me called "Yorgos" the only ingredients listed are chick peas, tahini, olive oil, water, garlic, lemon juice and sea salt. All organic. And, it is delicious! I noticed that some brands have crappy oils in them. Yorgos does not.
Here is my version of a recipe for Three Bean Soup. If you are using "fresh" beans, you will either need to cook them prior to adding or double the broth amount so that they can cook in the soup. I did the later and it was delicious!
Three-Bean Soup
- 2 Tbsp. olive oil
- 1 medium onion, diced
- 1 medium green pepper, diced
- 2 garlic cloves, minced
- 1 Tbsp. ground cumin
- 1/2 -1 tsp. ground chipotle chile (or cayenne - but you need less)
- 4 cups vegetable broth
- 14.5-oz diced tomatoes (1 can is using canned)
- 15-oz black beans, cooked (1 can if using canned)
- 15-oz white beans, cooked (1 can if using canned)
- 15-oz red beans, cooked (1 can if using canned)
- 1 cup lightly packed cilantro leaves, chopped and divided
- 1 Tbsp. dried oregano
- Salt and freshly ground black pepper, to taste
In large pot, heat oil over medium-high heat. Sauté onions and green pepper, 3 minutes. Stir in garlic and cook until vegetables are tender-crisp, 2 minutes. Stir in cumin and chipotle (or cayenne) and cook 1 minute, stirring.
Add broth, canned tomatoes with their liquid, beans, 1/2 cup of cilantro and dried oregano. Bring liquid to boil, reduce heat to medium, and simmer, uncovered, 10 minutes. Let soup cool at least 30 minutes to increase flavor, then reheat before serving. Or, refrigerate soup up to 4 days.
Makes 8 servings.
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Thank you, that sounds delish! Copying out now....
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