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  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 372
    edited December 2009

    There are foods that seem to be acidic and are acidic until they are digested in your system. Apple cider vinegar is one of those substances. It actually has an alkalizing effect...

    http://altmedicine.about.com/od/applecidervinegardiet/a/applecidervineg.htm

    http://naturalmedicine.suite101.com/article.cfm/tips_to_balance_ph

    Organic, whole foods are typically alkaline or become alkaline in our systems. It is processed, dead foods that cause acidity in your system. I don't know about the combo of apple cider vinegar and baking soda, but it seems like it would be have an alkalizing effect.

  • PS73
    PS73 Member Posts: 171
    edited December 2009

    Yes but you are neutralizing it before it goes into your stomache so it is ineffective in terms of bringing up the pH in your body.  It becomes alkaline (the ACV) after it passes thru your intestine.

  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 372
    edited December 2009

    Ahh. Makes sense.

  • Jennyi1
    Jennyi1 Member Posts: 81
    edited December 2009

    Good morning Ladies,

    Whew, I am finally starting to feel better, glad that the worst is behind meSmile.

    Wow, Thank you ladies for the YUMMY recipes. Delicious, I will certainly give them a try and let ya'll know how they turned out Smile.

    Fairy, Sooo sorry about your tooth, I have heard that oil of clove will help with the pain, unfortunately, I really don't know how to take care of the infection itselfFrown. I know that when my Grandmother had a toothache, she would swish her mouth with peroxide every am and pm for about 5 days and I honestly don't ever remember her complaining after that. I actually use the peroxide every morning (I started it after my 1st round of chemo) to prevent mouth sores and I have to say that I NEVER did get one soreSmile. I do contribute this to the peroxide. Hope this helps. Good luck to you.

    Wow, thank you Spring for the Interesting article on NAC. I will surely be looking into this. What is also interesting, is this Dental stuff, WOW, this is gross and kinda scary. Do you think my regular Dentist will "enlighten" me about this toxic stuff? LOL, probably not. but when I go for my appointment next month, you bet that I am going to question himSmile

    I cannot believe that they deleted the SS thread. OMG what is wrong with people?! I mean, H-E-L-L-O, if you don't like it, don't agree with it or just plain jealous , then don't read it. sigh...If the sign said apples for sale just ahead, and let's say you don't like apples, would you go ahead and stop to buy apples????? NOPE, don't think so.

    Crunchy-Good news about the benign results. CONGRATS! You go girlSmile.

     Hope everyone has a good day.

     Jenny.

  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 312
    edited December 2009

    sigh...If the sign said apples for sale just ahead, and let's say you don't like apples, would you go ahead and stop to buy apples????? NOPE, don't think so.

    Ha ha, that gave me a funny image in my head of a troll stopping by to shout insults at the apple seller... then going to the local officials and demanding that they shut down the apple seller. Or even worse, the seller is selling all kinds of other produce, but because the little troll doesn't like apples, and apples are one item among what's being sold, the entire produce shop gets shut down. Silly to imagine that in real life, but that's pretty much what can happen on message boards! 

  • Jennyi1
    Jennyi1 Member Posts: 81
    edited December 2009

    Hello again Ladies

    I was reading this Cancer Survivors story and REALLY enjoyed it. She chose not to do ANY conventional methods. I thought I would share this will ya'll. Some of you may have already read it.((( BIG HUG))).

     PLEASE NOTE:

    "If you find anything offensive or if you do not agree with this survivor's story, then please, follow the instructions that I am about to give you below:"

    STOP READING.

    Laughing Love ALL of Ya'll. 

    By Elohim's Grace
    By Marilyn Brent
     
    Isaiah 42:16  "And I will bring the blind by a way [that] they knew not; I will lead them in paths [that] they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them."
     
    The nurse was petite, with short, dark-blonde hair, and a ruddy complexion. Quietly, she was reading  from the Bible in her lap, my biopsy report in her other hand.  The verse was a new one to me, and it caught me by surprise.  Whatever did it mean for me, right now?
    Then, she spoke, softly. "The test came back. You have cancer."
    The words fell on my ears like sharp stabbing icicles plunging from a roof.  Lord, have mercy!  I, not someone else, had cancer.  It had taken my sister from me twenty-three years previously. Now, it was my turn.  Or, was it?  I woke up the next few mornings hoping it was a bad dream. Surely, I would realize any moment, it wasn't real, just a bad nightmare. I would laugh deprecatingly: what a silly goose! 
    A month before, I had seen a death angel. He came to me in a dream, when my heart beat irregularly, as I lay on my back.  His beautiful, curly black hair graced his head and shoulders. However, his white robe had a tarnished glory, the color of pewter silver in the folds.  He wanted me to go away with him.  No, I thought, I'm not going, that's crazy.  I'll just lie on my side, and everything will be okay.  I turned over to my left side, returning to sleep.  My heart beat even more irregularly, and I saw him again.  This time, his desire that I go with him was a lot stronger! No! I said emphatically within  myself.  I will not go! This time, he did not return
     Now, I was facing death, again.  The cancer death angel...a 9mm invasive tumor.  Stage 2 and 3, as described by a doctor, later, in ordering a blood test.  What did all those terms mean? Infiltrating ductal carcinoma...ductal carcinoma in situ...cribriform type. And what about all that grade one and grade two terminology? Would anyone explain that to me?
    One morning soon afterward,  I lay there on the futon, having my daily preamble with the Lord. Suddenly, across the room from me, my eyes beheld Him, my glorious Savior, in a shining, glory-filled white robe.  His face and hands weren't visible to me, just the glory of Him, with enormous love and compassion directed right to me. 
     His love for me was so pure, so special, wholly righteous, my Heavenly Father's love  And I had broken His heart, once, as a Christian! How on earth....?  Then, I knew.  Nothing mattered.  He loved me like that.  He really did.  Live or die, I would be with Him.  And He loved me like that. I went to church that week in a cloud of love.  The song leader kept glancing at my face.  I even felt the glow!  For weeks afterward, I was filled with joy.  Who could know, I had an earth-defined deadly disease? It was in the Bible, Philippians 1:21..."For to me to live is Christ, and to die, is gain."  I finally understood that, a little bit better.
    Since I had already sensed something wasn't right in the mammography room the first time, I had been searching the Internet for days on end for an answer to cancer.  Hadn't I already seen what did not work?  Both my oldest sister and my best friend had died from breast cancer, within two weeks of each other, in 1984, the year of my salvation.  At that time, I couldn't believe I was losing them both, when I had just gotten saved!  What did it all mean?
    I discovered many protocols: Flaxseed oil and cottage cheese had been utilized by many believers in Christ, and they had been healed.  Dr. Budwig's protocol!  The grape cure had been comprised by Dr. Brandt, and she had rescued many patients from death's very door.  Barley tablets, B-17...but what would I do? What was my answer?
    My friend, Mrs. Velasquez, called. She was concerned.
     "How are you doing?" she asked, of my emotional state. 
    "Stressed, but happy," I replied. 
    John, a brother with sickle cell, had let me use his colon cleansing products for two weeks.  He said I'd be on cloud nine, cleansing.  Boy, was I!  That plus my daily 50 mg of 5HTP had me just bouncing through the house.  Or, thundering? At 210 lbs., getting rid of toxins was an absolute delight.
    My fourteen year old daughter was amazed. 
    "You're really having fun with this, aren't you, Mom?" she questioned, disbelief in her eyes. 
    Her dubious expression made me laugh.  "Sure, " I answered, smiling. "Why not?" 
    She shook her head, not understanding.  How could someone be that happy with cancer?  Was this mom the abuse-survivor, who had been so toxic and easily grouchy before?  It didn't make sense.
    Now, I had to make a decision.  Then, Jackie called again.  There was an Amish healer in Fort Wayne, she said.  His name was Solomon Wickey. 
    "Just send him ten dollars, a written letter with an SASE, and your photo.  He will send instructions on what you can do. But you have to do exactly what he says!"
     Still happy as a lark, ridding my body of the toxic overload, I chuckled and agreed.  She sounded a little frustrated. Was I taking this seriously or what?
    My kids called me, one by one. 
    "Mom," said one. "Do you really have cancer?" 
    That happens to other people's moms, not theirs.  I could hear it in their voices. 
    One of my sons called. "I heard you were, uh, sick or something," he stammered. 
    "Yup!" I replied cheerfully. "Cancer!  But I'm working on it."
    Back on the Internet, I googled " Solomon Wickey cancer".  Stories of healing came up.  People with worse cancer than mine had been healed. Others had been healed of mysterious maladies, without medical remedy.  I looked up different types of healing.  Quickly, I decided that I would trust prayer and herbs and diet, together.  I had done too much damage with wrong foods and chemicals in deodorants, soaps, shampoos and clothing, to expect God to just remove it all.  He had totally healed my mitral-valve prolapse, years before, though.  My kids had been healed of different illnesses, too. So, I knew He could, I just didn't think I should ask like that, considering I had played a part in this!
    Being filled with the joy of the Lord, I never added up the cost.  I just plunged ahead.  Mr. Wickey sent the protocol, a naturopath helped me order herbs the first time, I found a grocery chain with organic carrots and celery for juicing...and I was off and running.  A juicer from a thrift store was seven dollars. 
    "The Lord put that there, just for me!" I said to a clerk.  She looked at me, uncomprehending.
    A homeschool foundation sent funds for curriculum.  A generous sister and brother in Christ, with their own struggles, contributed to my cause for health. Mrs. Velasquez obtained vegetables from Amish farmers.  The first two weeks, I drank purified water and ate whatever veggies she gave me.  I lost close to 10 lbs within a month of eating like a camel in the desert! 
    As the toxins were flushed out by the carrot/celery juice, freshly made, daily,more pounds started dropping, like hail in a storm.  One, two, three. I started to love the scale.  Before this, I had felt so helpless about my weight! It kept increasing, no matter what  I had done!  Now, fun time, it was decreasing, to my utmost delight.
    I thought I couldn't stand another minute of the vegetable/fruit/nuts/grains diet, sometimes.  Oh, for a nice ,hot juicy hamburger full of hormones, on chemical-laden "bread", with deliciously tasteful chemical-ridden condiments...killer food, but the taste!  Yet,  that was how my immune system had kept getting worse, until I had cancer.  Aluminum in deodorant was tested regarding cancers like mine.  Thirty cancers, and all thirty were proven to be caused by aluminum, sometimes called "parabens", in deodorant.  That, plus my weak immune system, made my body a cancer minefield.
    Now, I had to stick it out, no matter what, for nine weeks of herbs along with 18 weeks of diet/juicing.  How would I survive?  No toxic church suppers? No birthday cake? No hot, fresh doughnuts...not even one??
    By the end of the 18 weeks, I felt like a bird at the door of a cage.  Let me out!  And away I flew...right to the health store...for more vegetables.  I didn't want to quit!  It was so much fun losing weight and feeling great, every day!  Who would want to stop? Not I, said the birdie.
    The protocol ended in December, 2007.  Woo-hoo!  What joy.  In February, 2008, I was granted a CA 27 29  bloodtest for breast cancer, which would also be elevated if other reproductive cancers were present. Well within the reference range of 0-38.6, it returned at 5.5.  I was elated.  A mammogram and ultrasound followed in June-July of 2008. The doctor's first report stated the tumor was "no longer evident".  Later, after two letters confirming this statement, he said nothing had changed and that I was refusing surgery.  This called for a second opinion. A friend of the family, a doctor by profession, volunteered his time and effort to view the films himself. His report?  He could find "nothing of concern".  Two nurses, one my own daughter, viewed the films.  The metal clip on the grayish tumor in the before films was clearly visible in the after films.  However, that murky  mass around the clip, was replaced on the after films by clear, black space. No more gray!  Praise the Lord! 
    Now, at 136 lbs., down from a maximum of 210 lbs., I want to reach my optimum weight of 120 lbs.  I basically stay on the Eydie Mae Hunsberger diet, with some variation.  I try not to cheat myself of good health and long life. When I give in and eat a popular toxic "food",  it's never fun like it used to be.  Or was it?  I always felt bad afterwards.   It was only delicious looking at it, and thinking of eating it.  The actual consumption was far less delightful.
    My toxic eating had been accompanied by toxic thinking and attitude.  Once the colon was cleansed, from the inside out, my attitude improved 100%.  I'm still a "ditz" where I was, and occasionally grouchy, when it's very late and I'm extremely tired.  However, the joy of the Lord really has more freedom, now.  Suffering  the shock and trauma of extreme marital abuse, is said to decrease our immune system, also, and transferred stress and anxiety to other relationships. Soul cleanse before the Lord, body cleanse thru the colon, and mental cleanse through positive, Biblical input and thinking...restores what the locusts have eaten.
    To me, toxicity in eating can even harm good relationships.  Toxic food gatherings where I hopelessly gained weight and acquired more proclivity to illness, were not a glory to God, but a tool of Satan.  He loves to depress and sicken the very ones redeemed by the precious blood of Jesus (Hebrew: Yeshua)! How much ministering of His love never happened, how much joy was never expressed, how much winning of souls was passed up, because of the trash I was putting in the body that Elohim gave me.  What must He think of that?   I want to be in Biblical obedience in my eating.  My obedience to El-Shaddai in this area looked like crumbs, while the loaf I desired was sinful, chemical-laden, disease-causing "food".  Elohim's food for me is whole, unaltered by man. Time for a change!  Praise the Lord.
    I hope one day to have or live on a small farm, where food is grown chemical-free, and small animals flourish. I pray it will have a place to fish, or one nearby, in a clean stream or pond.  By God's grace, it will be a place of rest and refuge and change, to the glory of God the Father.  I pray I will have or be a part of a foundation that can help provide the supplements and help purchase the organic foods cancer patients need to heal their bodies.  Most importantly, I want  to be part of a natural health prayer-line, where people can lay hands on phones and pray for people, as they begin or continue, their pathway to wellness.  Praise the great God/Elohim, our Father, and Jesus/Yeshua, our Savior for all eternity. His Name is wonderful!

  • seaotter
    seaotter Member Posts: 642
    edited December 2009

    Jenny, I could not stopped or wanted to stop reading!!!! Thank you for posting it. It was very inspirational to me! Just what I needed today. Kiss

    Patty

  • Jennyi1
    Jennyi1 Member Posts: 81
    edited December 2009

    Smile Thank you Patty and you're very welcomeSmile. I absolutely loved it. I am so glad this helped you today. It sure did help me as well. You see, I have chosen not to do RADS. It is something that I just can't bring my self to do. I went to the RADS ONCO initial consultation and not even half way through it, I just wanted to get up and never look back. Well, I stayed through the whole grueling process, but after it was over, I actually never looked backWink and I am soooo relieved and stress free about it. I feel good, I am on a strict organic diet, I juice EVERY DAY and I am happy. Oh, and I just wanted to add that I love my new(even though they are still sore and swollen) FOOBS, LOL. I hope everyone knows why I put the :STOP READING" if this offends anyone? I just didn't want anything, ummm  DeletedSmile.

    Love to all the Natural Girls!!, all Cancer FIGHTERS!!, VICTORS(we are not just survivors)!! and to the ones that were called HOME!! May God bless and keep us.

    Jenny. 

  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 312
    edited December 2009

    Jenny, I could not stopped or wanted to stop reading!!!! Thank you for posting it. It was very inspirational to me! Just what I needed today. Patty

    Same here, Jenny!! Thank you for sharing it!

    It's spine-tingling to get confirmation from multiple sources that you're doing the right thing. This woman's approach is very much like my own (with focus on a "soul cleanse," putting importance on the mental and spiritual aspects of healing, not just physical)... and I just got an email from my husband with an article about the importance of, suprise surprise, iodine! I'm in a swirly happy buzzy little bubble right now, just knowing that this is all the right course of action!

    edited to add: I just read your last reply, Jenny, and I want to jump up and cheer for you!! I felt the same way when I decided "no rads" and when I told my doctor yesterday "no Tamoxifen" since I'm taking a diet/lifestyle approach, and he said he is FINE with that!! I am on the verge of getting REALLY crazy and saying "no second surgery," but we'll see about that one... LOL!

  • RunswithScissors
    RunswithScissors Member Posts: 69
    edited December 2009

    I'm thinking it's better not to mix baking soda with the vinegar - because you would be  chemically changing the baking soda into carbon dioxide gas before it gets into your body -

    (That's the reason it works so nicely to use baking soda as a scrubbing cleanser, followed by a vinegar rinse. The baking soda disappears without leaving a residue ...)

      

  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 372
    edited December 2009

    An article from LE this morning. It talks about the effectiveness of milk thistle in reducing liver toxicity during chemo...

    http://www.lef.org/newsletter/2009/1218_Milk-Thistle-Shows-Protective-Effect-Against-Chemo-Induced-Liver-Inflammation?source=eNewsLetter2009Wk51-2&key=Article&l=0#article

  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 372
    edited December 2009

    This has absolutely nothing to do with BC, but it is really cool! I would love to see one of these sculptures on the streets in NYC. Has anyone seen them??

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH6xCT2aTSo&utm_source=Crazy+Sexy+Life+Mailing+List&utm_campaign=5f907482bf-Weekly_Tune_Up_10_16_200910_16_2009&utm_medium=email

  • PS73
    PS73 Member Posts: 171
    edited December 2009

    How cool!  I love the part of his story about how he creates his pieces but it's the city that decides how to bring it to life and how it's out of his hands after a certain point. 

  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 372
    edited December 2009

    Isn't that great. I have never seen anything like it!

  • PS73
    PS73 Member Posts: 171
    edited December 2009

    I <3 NY

  • Jennyi1
    Jennyi1 Member Posts: 81
    edited December 2009

    Good morning ladies,

    WOW, Deni63, that is soooo kewl!!!. I let my 21 year old see it and he thought it was absolutely amazing. Thank you for posting itSmile.

    Jenny. 

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited December 2009

    Interesting video Deni. I just wish his "Art" was more aesthetic. Why does it have to be so scary looking? Couldn't he come up with angels or something instead of some monster that looks like it is coming from hell? It gave me the creeps.

    As for the baking soda discussion. I was thinking about how someone was saying it produces acidity and then this lightbulb went off. I did an acid wash on my concrete patio. The directions were to spray it on the cement, and the acidic colorant, eats into the concrete and etches it and you get a new color that permeates, not just sit on the surface. Well, this etching process would continue unless you stop it. The way to stop the acid from eating up the concrete?? Baking Soda! I washed it down with a mixture of baking soda and water and the etching stops. Baking soda is not acidic. It is alkalie and it neutralizes acid. So it only makes sense that it is healthy. Hey, I remember my grandparents drinking sodium bicarb all the time for every ailment. Now it is bottled by some drug company and put into a slightly different form so they can "patent" it and charge more. It looks like the old ways are becoming the better new ways again. Look to big pharma to try to ban baking soda once word gets out, just like they are doing with iodine. I was lucky to have great grandparents around when I was young. They were born in the 1890's and I idolized them both, but I remember not being happy with all my greatgrandmother's health "methods". She use to try to get cod liver oil down me too. She also wanted me to drink the milk from her neighbors cow, but I wanted the pasteurized version. Now I am learning that she was right!

    Dear Grandma- I am so sorry I doubted your old fashioned ways. You were right after all.

    Oh, and I am now reading another book about surviving disease. This book talks about how people survived the bubonic plague. They were able to figure out that those who were low in iron, would survive better. Remember how they use to "Bleed" people. We now think it is so barbaric, but evidently, many of those of European descent have a genetic disorder that causes iron to build up in our bodies. It has been proven that iron feeds cancer cells. Well, in the old days, this bleeding would actually get rid of a lot of the build up of iron in our bodies and that is why people would get better after bleeding.

    Althea-I was thinking about you when I read that because I think I remember you saying that your doctors had you on iron supplements for anemia. Acording to this book, it is exactly the opposite of what they should do! Maybe you should just go and get a good bleeding, ie GIVE BLOOD. That is what one of the guys in the book was saying his father always did, and always told him how invigorated he felt afterward. It is kind of like cleaning out the plumbing in your house. The iron rusts our pipes just as it does to our plumbing. By bleeding we are essentially cleaning house. Interesting isn't it????

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 506
    edited December 2009

    Vivre, that must've been someone else you remember being anemic.  I'm pretty sure they kept track of my iron levels during chemo and it was within the range they wanted.  As for the baking soda, it definitely is alkaline.  Since it is biSODIUM carbonate, however, it makes sense that I should not be using excessively as I try to lower my blood pressure.  I'm now drinking my shots of apple cider vinegar without the baking soda.  I sure like it better with the soda though.  It sure helped me get over my aversion to the acv, so for that I'm grateful.  I have an old bp kit for taking readings that I've dusted off.  My top number's come down, but the bottom number not so much. 

  • dghoff
    dghoff Member Posts: 236
    edited December 2009

    Hi Althea, I haven't heard of using ACV for blood pressure, but I know a number of people who have used it to combat acid reflux. Seems that many people who have acid reflux don't actually have enough stomach acid, so the ACV might seem counterproductive, but it actually helps to digest food in the stomach.  So many benefits to ACV!

    Julia - so glad to hear of your benign news, but sorry you  have to go back for more surgery, unless of course you decide not to. Tough decision!

    Everyone, I have to share with you my recent clinic visit! Since I found out I don't metabolize Tamoxifen properly (I was not happy about taking it anyway), I knew I needed to find another option. My oncs advice was that I should get a shot of Lupron to force me into menopause and then put me on an AI. Ugh. That is SO not what I wanted to do.  So I started on DIM and calcium-d-glucarate and all those lovely things I've learned from all you wonderful ladies, but I felt like I was just throwing darts at a moving dartboard. I wanted to have some way of measuring and knowing what dosages were right for me and what else I really should be doing.  So, I found a functional medicine clinic and I met with the nurse practitioner yesterday.  It was FABULOUS and I learned a lot. She spent a little over an hour with me, and then she is going to confer with their MD on Monday and get back to me to discuss my situation further. But here's a few interesting things I learned that I thought you might like to hear too:

    Even if your vitamin D levels test in the "normal" range (mine were 41 in August), she said anything below 40 is insufficient, and since this was in August, when I'd had a summer full of sunshine, she told me I need to start supplementing with 5,000 IU per day!

    She also told me that we need at least 13 servings of fruits and vegetables in a day to actually get all the minerals our bodies need.

    She said they don't ever give out standard dosages to anyone because every person has different requirements. Just as I can't metabolize Tamoxifen well due to a missing gene, I probably have other genetic impairments that make it hard for my body to detoxify itself. Their role in functional medicine is to find out where I am deficient and come up with a plan uniquely suited to me.  I could eat a seemingly perfect diet, and still possibly get cancer because my body is not able to sufficiently metabolize certain things and I may have a lack of a certain nutrient that I need to double up on in order to get the amount my body needs. So I might need megadoses of something where the average person might need only a small amount.  

    Anyway, it was so different from a typical medical visit!  

    Vivre- that is so interesting about the giving blood thing! It makes a certain amount of sense! 

    DeAnn 

  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 372
    edited December 2009

    Hi interesting DeAnn. My gyno is holistic and he did a series of bloodwork on me when I started to consult with him. What he found in my bloodwork were some DNA abnormalities and other  imbalances. His opinion is that these imbalances may have been a contributor to my getting BC in the first place. It is in line with what your new doc has said about not metabolizing certain things properly. He also dissected my B12 level and said that even though my B12 showed high on the results, other findings suggested that I am not metabolizing it properly and getting the benefit out of it. So, he recommended certain supplementation for that. I am fascinated by his knowledge in body chemistry. Sounds like you had a similar experience with your new doc, which is wonderful!

    I try to get in my 13 servings of fruits and veggies everyday. A big help is the green smoothies I drink in the AM (at least 5-6 servings) and then juicing most afternoons (another 6-7 servings) - plus salad and my plant-based diet.

  • Yazmin
    Yazmin Member Posts: 218
    edited December 2009

    Wow! there is so many fascinating things going on so fast on this thread......

    First of all, Julia, I just found out about your benign status. Congrats! and, like the other ladies, I feel you have chosen the wisest approach of "wait and see."

    Jenny: this story is riveting. I had to read it twice in rapid succession.

    Spring: I have ordered some NAC, but I am wondering if there is any way to measure the amount of toxins in the body before NAC, and after starting to take NAC? How do I kow that it is actually detoxifying me, does anybody know?

  • dghoff
    dghoff Member Posts: 236
    edited December 2009

    Althea - in all the information that I got from the functional medicine clinic, there was a big article about the importance of vitamin K, and included information about hypertension. It says that calcium intake (or lack, thereof) is more likely to cause blood pressure problems than salt. Vitamin K performs a feat called "carboxylation". Basically, what it does is gives proteins "claws" to hold on to calcium so that it can't be moved around. Proteins that don't have enough vitamin K don't have the claws and so they can't control the mineral. Without a functioning protein to control it, calcium drifts out of bone and into arteries and other soft tissues contributing to hypertension as well as low bone density.  Of course, greens and fruits and veggies are good sources, so yet another good reason to substantially increase intake of those things. 

    Anyway, since I had just read about your blood pressure issues, I thought of you and wanted to share that tidbit!

    DeAnn 

  • Lili46
    Lili46 Member Posts: 102
    edited December 2009

    Yazmin...my doctor had me do a comprehensive urine element profile through Genova Diagnostics to test for toxic elements in my body such as mercury, aluminum, lead, arsenic, etc... I did this while going through chemo so my liver was a bit stressed. He put me on NAC and glycine to detoxify my liver and build up my glutathione levels. He gave me the ok to stop it this month as I've been on it for a year and he thinks my liver should be ok now.

  • Springtime
    Springtime Member Posts: 3,372
    edited December 2009

    Yaz, that is a good question. Makes sense, but I don't know the answer....   I have had a detox profile done (osteopath) but I think that was more of now my body eliminates different chemicals, not how much "ick" was in there to begin with...

  • Paula7
    Paula7 Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2009

    Hi, I hope you ladies look into having thermograms done. Sorry, I haven't introduced myself and I'm just passing thru, may check in from time to time. I guess you could call me a visitor. I was just diagnosed with LCIS (lobular carcinoma in situ, aka Lobular neoplasia), which is not a cancer and not a precancerous but puts at high risk for future cancer and a significant enuf risk for possible current cancer that they want to do a lumpectomy on me to see if I have cancer. I'm not going for it. I think that's overkill. My plan is to monitor, change my lifestyle (nutrition, exercise) and get this neoplasia under control before I do get cancer. I plan to make major change, to go to a functional/integrative M.D. specializing in preventative medicine to help me formulize an individual approach AND for me, most important, I will do regular thermograms as a good screening tool that is totally safe, totally non-invasive and can pick up precursors, patterns leading to cancer 10 yrs. before they happen (angiogenesis, heat given off by blood supply that starts to form/circulate to feed cancerous activity (proliferative activity, cells dividing, etc.) before it can become a cancer. This will be the critical part for my personal preventative plan becuase it will allow me to monitor what works and doesn't work for me. I think it must be a very individual thing (hormone based problems? Allergy problems? inflammation probs? Dairy/growth factor probs? Soy problmes? I'll bet it varies across individuals. Some may do well with DIM (Indoles) or I3C but I read in some early stages of cancer, that's not so good. I like the idea of having an immediate feedback loop to know individually what works and what doesn't. I've been in touch with thermogram people and they have a naturopathic doctor that puts patients on an aggressive protocol to get their breast health turned around IF it looks like there's too much heat/blood/activity going on in that area. I just wanted to pass this along to you all and I hope people witll really consider it. I had one done before I did my mammo and it was an equivocal reading, somewhat problematic, but not likely quite cancer yet (5% chance of cancer) and then then core needle biopsy I ended up having for utterly benign irrelevant microcalcifications ended up leading to dx of LCIS/LN--a neoplasia. The thermogram picked it up. It could also pick up fibrocystic disease and sometimes some women just consistently have this more equivocal kind of reading bc that's how they are. That's why thermograms rely a lot too on observing over time so that can see what YOUR pattern is. It's not scary, it's not invasive, it can catch problems way ahead of time and then give you a chance to make diet/exercise changes and THEN MONITOR if those changes are actually working. The individual feedback it can provide and it's safety is what I like it about. Warning/caveat, like all screening measures, it is only that. It can miss cancers too (but perhaps the less active kind that may turn into anything? I don't kknow if there's enuf data on that one). Anyway, up to everyone of course, but I just wanted natural girls to know about it and have this tool.  Best to all of you.----Paula

  • Efflorescing
    Efflorescing Member Posts: 27
    edited December 2009

    Hi Paula, although I am sorry that you have joined the BC sisterhood, it's wonderful that you found your way to this forum.

    Thank you for sharing your story and encouraging the use of Thermograms. Many of us have had Therms and currently there is an ongoing thread in this forum titled "Alternatives to Mammography" http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/79/topic/744061?page=5#idx_140

    You sound like you are on the right track so feel welcome to drop by and update us regarding your progress.  

    Vivre, I read your post about "Bleeding" and wondered if you would be interested in having your "bad/old blood" removed???

    If interested,  look into Wet Cupping, Blood Cupping, Bentosa, Bekam, Hijama or Hujama. there is also the option of Dry Cupping but I don't think it has the same benefits. ) so after reading your post I began looking into it again and found that some are using it to treat BC. 

    I thought about having it done but did not find anyone in my area I trusted to do it  

    Some of you probably remember seeing Gwyneth Paltrow sporting spots on her back years ago which were from Dry Cupping. I am interested in the Wet Cupping but I will probably wait until I travel to find someone qualified. 

    Here are a couple of links and videos: Graphic so don't watch if you are squeemish!!

    Has video and other info: http://www.bestcuppingtreatment.com/page/1329405

    also:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/12/earlyshow/health/main628788.shtml

     

     

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 734
    edited December 2009

    Lili

    What is NAC?

  • Lili46
    Lili46 Member Posts: 102
    edited December 2009

    Merilee...NAC is N-acetyl cysteine. It is a non-essential amino acid. It helps maintain/build glutathione levels in the body. It is an important antioxidant and protects the liver from the adverse effects of toxic chemicals.

    http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69310.cfm 

    Li 

  • Jennyi1
    Jennyi1 Member Posts: 81
    edited December 2009

    Good morning Ladies,

    Welcome Paula, please stop by often, There is so much knowledge hereSmile.

    Here is a thought for the day: Have you ever noticed that the "Pink Ribbon" held upside looks more like a "Noose"? (originally quoted by Mike Adams).

    Love to all

    Jenny. 

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited December 2009

    Welcome Paula. I too am a believer in therms and have had several to monitor my wellness quest. I too love the fact that I get instant feedback and since I have copies of my own therms I can see for myself if there are any changes. I hope you will check out our therm thread, that has been blasted of course by the naysayers. But I think it is only a matter of time, as more of us demand this safe procedure, until they are the accepted norm.

    Jenny, love that quote by Mike Adams. It is indeed a great advocate for natural health.

    Effor_ interesting that you should mention cupping. I have never tried it, but my new ND is trained to do it. He may speak at our prevention convention about it too, so you can learn more. I have not given blood, but I am thinking that it might be  a good thing to try. I never thought my blood was good, but I think that now that I am healthier, maybe it will help others.

    LiLi and Merilee-My dentist told me about the detox benefits of NAC and I got some at my compounding pharm and started it this week. I am starting to feel some detox symptoms(headache} so I think I will try some salt loading, like with the iodine protocol to flush it out. We shall see.