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Deanna, im interested in anything native american ; the quote in your signature caught my eye months ago. ive shared it many like minded friends w/out saying where i heard it...where did u get it from; is there a book, or something? please pm me, as i miss stuff in posts. would really appreciate it. light and love, 3jaysmom
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Maya - That is so good to know about the strontium. I have been taking that instead of calcium. How much do you take? Your bone density is impressive!!!! I'm saying no to Evista as well. I just don't have a good feeling about it. I didn't with tamoxifen either!!!
Love to all Patty
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Well, I made rice milk and I am pleasantly surprised at how smooth it is even though I did not strain it. I added some shake powder and a banana and had a wonderful nutritious drink. I am sensitive to soy and cows milk so rice milk is the thing for me. Here is the recipe.
Ingredients and Supplies:
1 cup uncooked organic long grain brown rice
8 cups water for cooking
More water for diluting
1 teaspoon salt
Glass mason jars for storage
A Blender
Mesh strainerDirections
Thoroughly wash the rice.
Put 8 cups of water in a big pot and bring it to a boil over high heat.
Pour in the rice.
Cover the pot and lower the heat to let the water simmer.
Cook for 3 hours.You will end up with something that looks a bit like a soupy rice pudding. Add the salt.
In batches, fill your blender halfway with the rice mixture and halfway with water. Blend until very smooth. Strain twice through a fine mesh strainer into a mason jar. Continue on with the rest of the milk until you're finished, filling jars and screwing the lids on good and tight.
Even with the extra water, the homemade rice milk ends up thicker than the product you might be used to if you've always purchased Rice Dream Rice Milk. It's more like rice cream! You may want to dilute it further at the time of serving it. Just add a bit more water until it's the desired consistency.
http://www.veganreader.com/2009/05/17/how-to-make-rice-milk-and-stop-supporting-rice-dream/
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notself...looking forward to trying your recipe!
What would happen if you froze it? Would it be like ice cream?:)
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I think you could probably concoct something like ice cream. I would make it with a 1/2 cup less water and a couple of tablespoons of oil to make is taste creamy. I would add vanilla and perhaps some maple syrup or honey. What could it hurt to try? You either end up with frozen rice milk that can always be defrosted or you end up with low sugar, almost fat free, all natural ice cream.
If you try it, let me know how it works out.
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I just found this particular discussion. I'm thrilled that you are all educating and supporting one another about healthy diets! So who's writing that book? All of these tips need to get out there and reach more people!
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Thanks notself for the ideas. I really would like to try it. It may be a while...company coming and then vacation. But it sounds like it could work if I add the ingredients you mentioned.
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One of the hardest things l found giving up was MILK! I guzzled organic un-homogenised milk on a daily basis, like no other.
But I must say, l do love my new alternatives. I drink honey/oat milk; quite creamy...and l really like rice milk in my tea. I recommend it to everyone l know. It has a nice texture and very subtle flavour that does not detract from the sumptuous taste of your favourite tea.
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Hi asschercut,
Rice tea in your tea that does not detract from the sumptuous taste of one's favourite tea! Thanks for the tip! I will try it.
I am a milk drinker too, but now only in my tea...guzzled it before...drank it as a beverage! Soda's are way too sweet for me and diet drinks are chemical drinks.
I do buy organic 1% milk but since I watched a programme on t.v. about the toxic plastic tubing that the milk goes through after leaving the cow, really turned my stomach.
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Those of you who use a moderate amount of dairy milk -- please don't buy it from a store. Even the "organic" is nasty, nasty stuff from factory-farmed cows. Find a local farm where the cows graze on grass ("organic corn" should NOT be a cow's primary diet), where the cows have names and get plenty of sunshine -- buy raw milk there! Pasteurization destroys all the beneficial enzymes and many nutrients in milk, so raw is better than pasteurized (although pasteurized is FAR better than ultra-pasteurized which is a dead product -- not food).
I personally don't drink straight milk, but I do make my own yogurt and quark (for the Budwig flax oil mixture -- see the Budwig thread if you don't know what that is!) for the beneficial enzymes AND probiotics. Also, butter from grass-fed cows is full of CLA, vitamin D and other cancer-fighting nutrients (according to the books Anti-cancer and Nourishing Traditions and other sources).
Basically, evidence supports that a small amount (5-10% of your diet) of grass-fed dairy is more optimal than either none at all or an excessive amount (although it's better not to consume dairy at all if you're going to consume corn-fed and/or non-organic dairy).
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I used to guzzle milk also. It never dawned on me once until I was an adult that it was anything BUT good for me. Finally, it was becoming aware of the deplorable conditions at the factory farms that gave me the decisive push to change my ways. I used to consume nearly 2 gallons a week all by myself. I like rice milk, hemp milk, coconut milk, and oats milk.
They're all much more expensive than milk, but nowadays, I use it mainly for my homemade daily latte, so I don't use anywhere near 2 gallons a week of the milk substitutes. I thought for sure that would lead to some weight loss, but it didn't. My other beverages are juice that I also make, and more recently, herbal infusions that I learned about from Susun Weed. I didn't think I'd ever want to give up milk, or be able to. I still like yogurt, kefir, and butter, but I'm using them less and less also. The recipe for rice milk looks very appealing. Thanks for posting it.
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Crunchy....Painterly mentioned plastic tubing....do they use that at local farms where cows graze on grass?
I haven't really researched raw milk. Is is okay?
When I was a kid we had some cows but they were beef cows so I don't know much about milk cows. Our cows had names and grazed on grass and sometimes were fed alfalfa and oats but we couldn't bear to kill them so we sold them and bought our meat from the store. That was a loooong time ago when most cows ate grass.
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Luna, my farm doesn't... they milk into steel pails then the milk is cooled immediately and then poured into half-gallon mason jars. I don't know if that's how all raw milk farms do it though.
I wouldn't have been able to kill cows I'd helped to raise either! I even asked my farmer and his wife how they're able to do it. She gave me a beautiful explanation about it that made me appreciate what they did all the more. Basically, just like with a pet, you know their time with you won't last forever, but you still want to give them the best possible life while you have them and give them all the love you can during that time. (I still wouldn't be able to do it even with that outlook! I'm already dreading the day my one-year-old puppies will cross the rainbow bridge, and that will hopefully not be for many many years!)
Anyway, with healthy grass-fed cows, you don't have the worries of e coli etc. (one study found that even factory-farmed cows who had raging e coli, after they were moved to pasture for a few weeks, the e coli cleared up). It's also naturally so much higher in vitamin D etc. that they don't have to add back synthetic vitamin D as with pasteurized. There's also not the problem of diseased milk, pus, etc. I still don't think it's wise to guzzle it because all milk contains a certain amount of naturally occuring hormones, which is why I don't drink it straight, but yogurt, butter, and cheese from raw milk is (in moderation -- 10% or less of diet) very beneficial for cancer patients.
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Julia, thank you for explaining it for me. I will have to look around for a farm like that. Glass jars instead of plastic appeals to me as well. I've been wanting to find a farm with grass fed beef instead of relying on the organic meats in the store also. I hadn't realized before that they can call it organic when they fed them organic corn.
Every time I think I have it figured out, it's back to the drawing board!
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I hadn't realized before that they can call it organic when they fed them organic corn.
I know!! I was SO MAD when I found that out!!! Same with "organic cage-free" eggs. Um, that just means they're locked inside an overcrowded chicken house and fed organic corn -- NOT allowed to roam outside pecking at bugs, eating grass, etc. It's maddening how deceptive the marketing can be. But, it's also very refreshing to be able to meet the farmer where you buy your eggs/milk/poultry from and see for yourself how the animals are raised! I seriously plan to NEVER buy animal products from a grocery store again.
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I wanted to share this link to care2.com It could have been me listing the things I like and do not like about American medicine, but instead it was a doctor.
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/18-biggest-problems-with-modern-medicine.html
Have a nice day all.
Mandy
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Hi wonderful Natural Girls. I just spent the most amazing weekend at the Health Freedom Expo in Chicago. It is such a shame they are not everywhere. My head is spinning with all that I learned. I cannot possibly put it all here but I am putting as much as I can on our site as I get my overloaded brain back reorganized so I can write it all down. Along with some amazing speakers, I met some wonderful authors and I would like to recommend a couple of books. I have not read them yet obviously, but they sound very intersting and informative:
"A Promise Of Hope" by Autumn Stingam-the story of a woman afflicted with BiPolar disorder and how she overcame it with supplements
"Revitalize Your Hormones"-Theresa Dale, PHD, ND- Dr. Dale insists that we do not need hormone replacement of any kind, but we do need to restart our hormones. I heard her talk but not have the read book yet, so I am deferring judgement. The only reason I am taking her seriously is that she practices what she preaches. This 63 year does not look a day over 45.
" Treatable and Beatable" and "Staying Calm in the Midst of Chaos" by 7 year breast cancer thriver, Carolyn Gross. I told Carolyn I would not read her first book because as I read her index I could see, that I already read it. It was my own story, and I think many of you here will see yourself in her words. Some of her quotes are exactly what many of us have been saying. How I wish I had seen her book BEFORE I started this journey, it might have helped me and I know it will help women who are new to the whole BC crapola. I love her caption for life- "Do You Whine or do you Shine". I felt such a connection to her, as I do to all of you who have taken charge of your own health and not let the doctors or naysayers deter you from the healthier choices we have made.
As I said, I wish that this weekend could be everywhere. It could make a huge difference in the health of so many. There is another one in CA each year, but they said they did not get enough backing in other cities. But even if you cannot make one, HealthKeepers Alliance puts out a great magazine and there is going to be a related convention coming up for all you Canadians: www.g2010.net One of our favorite authors, Patrick Quillen(beating cancer with nutrition) will be speaking.
As for the milk discussion. None of the speakers I heard, were not fond of dairy at all, even hormone free. They said it is not similar to human milk in structually. They were also adament that women should not feed their children soy milk, as it is full of estrogens that are causing baby girls to get fat and boys to be estrogen dominant when they should be producing testosterone. I guess, everything in moderation. Anyway, more info on my site, as I can get it all out of my head and on typed out.
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Crunchy-one doctor was talking about miscarriage as being a cause of breast cancer. Dr. Tenpenny said that our estrogen levels soar during pregnancy and all the milk ducts start to produce. When a pregnancy is cut short, the ducts become clogged, the estrogens feed the cancer cells and boom-BC! She also said that infertility injections should be avoided and that women need to balance their hormones to get pregnant safely.
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Vivre, that sounds amazing; thanks for sharing some highlights!
Crunchy-one doctor was talking about miscarriage as being a cause of breast cancer. Dr. Tenpenny said that our estrogen levels soar during pregnancy and all the milk ducts start to produce. When a pregnancy is cut short, the ducts become clogged, the estrogens feed the cancer cells and boom-BC! She also said that infertility injections should be avoided and that women need to balance their hormones to get pregnant safely.
Yup -- I have NO doubt that that was a big factor for me and there are even "medical industry approved" studies that support that. In my case, I had three late-first-trimester miscarriages within 10 MONTHS!! Of course my ducts as well as hormones were going crazy. I knew at the time of my fourth miscarriage that I was probably now at high risk for BC (I just didn't think it would happen so quickly!).
I'd love to hear more about the infertility injection thing and why that doctor cautioned against them. My husband and I had talked about this and had decided against any fertility drugs, knowing instinctively that the flood of hormones and whatever other garbage is in the injections would surely contribute to cancer.
But... honestly... I am SO SO SO deeply longing and needing to have a child, I'm now starting to think I'm willing to take that risk, knowing that I will need to be especially vigilant in my cancer-fighting diet and lifestyle as well as regular thermography monitoring.
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Hi everyone, I want to do the iodine loading test from breastcancerchoices. Do I have to have my Dr order the test or can I order it myself and then go to see my Dr with the results?
Terri
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Hi Terri-
I did not need an RX, although someone posted on the IOdine forum that FFP Labs now requires an RX. You might want to contact them and find out.
Beth
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In February I had both the loading test and a bromide test. I ordered it myself and got my results from Dr Flechas at FFP. If you can swing the extra $, the bromide test will really let you know how much detoxing you have ahead of you. My level was 32 (less than 10 is the desired level), and I've been taking 100 mg/day of iodoral since July of last year.
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Don't know if any of you have read of Paula Owens' "The Power of 4", but in my initial reading, it reminds me all the things you "Natural Girls" are doing. I am going to order the book and will likely sign up for her 21-day challenge. Melissa
http://thepowerof4-paula.blogspot.com/2009/05/aromatase-and-estrogen-dominance-what.html
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Crap.......... I told my ONC that I wasn't taking Tamox and was "doing it the natural way" and he suggested I try Femara! He said that if he were me, he would "at least" try it out. Why is it that every time I think I'm doing good and I'm trying to get/stay healthy with eating right and supplements someone comes along and puts doubts in my mind. I HATE THAT ! ! Anyway, after reading the side effects, I don't think I'll be filling that prescription either....
Terri
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Hi Terri,
I guess the onc's are only doing what they have been trained to do....write prescriptions for drugs! I am in the same boat, I told my onc. I would try the aromasin. He said I could do just 1/2 a pill. I had a terrible reaction to it. I didn't call him to tell him. I will just show up in 6 months and say "hey doc! Guess what!! etc.
I have no alternative but to go the natural route.
Good luck with your decision. You will feel a lot better once you have your hormones tested.
Glenis
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I guess going through major bone loss, aches, muscle and joint pain for a 2% better prognosis (in my case) is not worth the risk. I just read through the Femara thread and it scared the daylights out of me!
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I posted this on the iodine thread as well but thought maybe someone here would have an answer for me as well...
My ONC just called me after reading my test results from bloods taken yesterday. He was shocked to see that my TSH was up at 12.3 (I have been hpothyroid for the last 20 years).
In April my TSH was .1, May 1.36 and now in June 12.3. I guess it makes sense since in April I was on 12.5mg iodine, May I upped the dose to 25mg, and June 50mg Iodoral. I haven't told him that I'm on iodine because he poo-pooed my taking supplements of any kind in the first place. He's now got me going back next Thursday to get re-tested. I also didn't tell him that I've switched to natural dessicated thyroid meds. My naturopath had me on 60mg dessicated thyroid and with 37.5mg of iodine it was the right balance because my TSH, FreeT4 and FreeT3 were all within normal range. I guess now that I've upped my dose of Iodoral to 50mgs from 37.5mg that made the difference and hence the increase in my TSH? I would have thought that my TSH would go down with a higher dose of Iodoral? He was freaking on the phone telling me that now I am "severely" hypothyroid and need to be re-tested. Should I maybe go back to 37.5mgs of iodine???????
Terri
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Crossposting to Iodine Thread from Dr. Flechas' article:
http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-10/IOD_10.htm
Dr. Flechas writes: "I have seen TSH sometimes go up rather than down while T4 and free T3 did not change or may have gone up some. This does not mean that the patient was developing hypothyroidism but that the brain was stimulating the body to make more sodium iodide symporters (NIS). The NIS are channels in the cell membrane that transport atoms into a cell as compared to a calcium channel or a sodium channel or a chloride channel where the channel only admits one atom to go through. The NIS transports sodium iodide into cells and has been found in all cell lines tested so far. Thyroid stimulating hormone, prolactin and oxytocin have been found to stimulate the making of NIS . While taking iodide, one may see an elevated TSH but we have to recognize that this is not a bad thing. TSH has many actions outside the thyroid that have been discovered . While taking iodine, the vast majority of patients lose fat and gain muscle weight."
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Terri-
My TSH jumped up too, but it has subsequently gone down after about 6 months! It is not uncommon.
Beth
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Good Morning Ladies
I haven't written in a while, but just wanted to say welcome to all "new ones" and a big "THANK YOU" to all of you for the continued helpful information.
Hope everyone is well and is continuing on the road of health
May God Bless! (((((BIG HUG)))))
Jenny
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