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I think injured areas are just more succeptible to cancer, if it's going to grow anywhere, that would be the place. That sound like some adventure and I am glad you lived to tell the tale. Mine happened while driving home from work: a guy in a hurry to get his weekend on tried to jump traffic and made a left right in front me of while looking the other way and couldn't make it across because of opposing traffic. I thought I was dead even though I was only going 30-35 mph--it was like running full speed into a wall. Steering wheel, safety belt and airbag all in the chest leaving me tender and bruised for months. Started having breast pain on my left side shortly after this. Settled the case right before my diagnosis.
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I know all those studies claim underwire bras don't cause cancer, but after reading this, does make me wonder. Mine was right on the underwire line.
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I slipped while running upstairs and bashed my breast on the bannister a few years before dx; it was very bruised and sore for a while.Not long afterwards I noticed some dimpling in that spot and was seen at the breast clinic.After mammo and ultrasound the consultant concluded that the 'dimpling' was from trauma to the breast, since nothing abnormal showed up.I continued to have yearly mammos on that side just to monitor things.A few years later a lump appeared overnight in the same breast, however, in a different quadrant.It was an aggressive IDC tumor, surrounded by extensive DCIS.
I also wonder whether the extra radiation from those yearly mammos played a part.
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Injuries do not cause breast cancer but they leave behind scar tissue, which is damaged DNA, and damaged cells are suseptible to become cancererous, once carcinogens are introduced. I had a clogged milk duct when I was nursing, exactly where my tumor was. I do not think this is a coincidence. Cancer is not caused by one thing. It is multifocal and different for everyone. For me, I believe this clogged duct left those cells vulnerable. Then I had an overexposure to chlorine, and was underprotected with low iodine. And since my immune system was in constant overdrive from my dental issues, add a bit of stress, a mediocre diet, and Viola! The good think about figuring it out, is that you can change the causes and then not worry about a recurrance. That is how it is for me!
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Hello, Everyone!!! Just found this forum. Was on "Side Effects of Mammosite Radiation Therapy" and also "IDC" forum, but everyone was taking about chemo and tamox and AI's....none of which I am doing. It's so great to learn more about what I can do that does not involve pharmaceuticals. I'm using Vitamin C IV therapy, Iodoral, low dose naltrexone, bio-identical progesterone and estrogen cream, alpha lopoic acid, mega doses of Vitamin D3, B12 injections, diet changes and other vitamins and supplements to support my immune system. I had not heard about the root canal connection and I have a root canal on the lower right and my BC was right breast, lower quadrant. Will have to do more research on this. Thank you for this forum...I don't feel like I will be looked down on because I took my cancer care into my own hands and fired my medical oncologists...went to two and got two different opinions...neither of which I liked. So here I am taking great care of myself...4 months after surgery and Mammosite radiation and back to as normal as I can be.... maybe even better than I was before BC. Thank you for letting me join and learn and share what I've learned so far.
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Vivre, that is a very good description of the "perfect storm" they describe for cancer. A lot of doctors say stress doesn't cause cancer. It may not, all by itself,but the new studies show that it corrupts DNA. In my case, shockingly-low vitamin D, stress that nearly put me in an early grave (I was lucky I didn't have a heart attack and die on the spot), exposure to a toxic landfill growing up, and a poor diet probably all were my "perfect storm". It's weird, though. I feel like a lot of people live this way, yet I was the one who got cancer. Mysterious stuff.
By the way, thanks to you gals on this board, my naturopath tested my iodine and I will be supplementing. I wasn't too bad: 76%. They like over 90% for protective function.
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Welcome to the thread irish. I hope you make a great recovery. I think you're fortunate to be aware of so many alternatives. When I first joined bco, there were different categories, but this section for alternatives came later. I was so unaware of so many things back then, such as everything on the list you mentioned that you're doing. I can't help but be curious how you became aware of these options? Did you learn of them after your dx, or did you already know about them?
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Hey everyone, I've decided on a new year's resolution. I'm going to change my signature line! Even though I'm going to bake Christmas cookies again this year (I make really good cookies!), I can tell I've really turned a corner. I went to a Christmas party potluck yesterday and sampled many of the abundant desserts. By the time I got home, I my teeth felt like they were wearing fuzzy sweaters. I kept wondering, why does my mouth feel like it has unwelcome guests? duh! It was all that sugar!
I think the key to all this healthy living is to reach the point where you no longer feel like you're depriving yourself of things you like to eat. The food coming from my very own kitchen is what I genuinely love to eat. I love to make it, and I love to eat it, and I love how I feel.
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Althea, I agree, the Alternative forum is such a good source of information. I know there are so many who aren't aware....I wasnt in the beginning either. I knew about this forum but since I knew nothing about alternatives in the beginning, it was almost like fairy dust in my mind. So glad I figured it out early. I wish there was a way to make sure everyone knows they have choices.
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Irish,
Welcome to the group!
You rock
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Is it me, or is anyone else getting a bit overwhelmed with the amount of mini-discussions within this thread? They are all so interesting, I'd hate to miss any of them. Suggestions?
Lisa
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Lisa-having these discussions outside this one thread did not work. It always stirred up the naysayers who would come in just to argue and many of our alternative threads were shut down because they were "too divisive". That is why Amber starts this forum with words "we have tried this before". Those of you who have not been here for long have no idea how much hate was directed at the original alternative girls. That is why most of them left, and why I started my own website. We have accumlated a lot of great information and I wanted a place to park it for easy reference and where I could direct others who have never had breast cancer to learn from our experiences. So if anyone wants to chat about a specific topic, in length, let me know and I will do a live chat. I can send out an email to let everyone know of date and time. I plan on announcing some fun topics that have nothing to do with bc. I also have a private group for natural girls where we can share personal information.
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Welcome Irish. I think you will feel right at home here.
Althea-I so agree with you. I do not feel I am depriving myself anymore. I now just feel food is my medicine, not my panacea. Don't feel bad over a couple of christmas cookies. Christmas is only here for a short time each year. It is a blessing we need to embrace, even if we overindulge a bit. That is why we get the change to redeem ourselves with New Year's resolutions! "My idea of a diet is a plate of healthy stuff in one hand and a bite of chocolate in the other."
I'mpositive-Love your quote. Didn't I read that is Suzanne Somers book? She sure has dealt with the ridicule,as many of us have for daring to support her. If you want to see the hatemongers come out, just start a thread about Suzanne. I think she is a very brave woman.
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Welcome Irish!
My ONC wrote me another RX for Femara and tried to scare the devil out of me by quoting %'s, recurrance rates and overall survival rates to me in regards to my not taking any form of treatment ie. pills. I'll get over it. It usually takes a few days and then I'm back to my resolve that I'm doing what's best for me. 3% increase in overall survival rate is not enough for me to pop that pill !
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Terri, you're not just "not taking any form of treatment." I have to believe that all of the things many of us here are doing (natural estrogen modulators + serious exercise & diet modifications) have never been factored into the % equations. Plus, as a BCO friend reminded me... if we were on pharmaceuticals, we'd be worrying about strokes and osteoporosis!
And did you all see the latest report out of the San Antonio conference -- about bone building drugs having no impact on preventing bone mets? (I've been away for a week, so don't know if anyone's posted that yet, but I can find it if you haven't seen it.) Anyway, I personally believe that all the cons of A/I's are yet to be realized. Deanna
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Althea, I wish I could come to your kitchen and eat. I love eating healthy but I don't like anything else about food. I don't want to buy it, load it in my car, unload it or put it away, or cook it. I don't mind cleaning up the kitchen, though. I've always thought the perfect house would be one without a kitchen. But now, I really NEED a kitchen as there is no other way to make the foods I need to eat.
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Went to my scan today and got good results! I go in to see my oncologist this afternoon to check on the mole-like thing that popped up on my breast, but feeling good with the news this a.m.!!
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vivre, I've never been a chat user, but I might change my ways to be involved with yours! You offer so much and tis the season to be thankful, so thank you.
Lisa, this is the one thread where we are 'left alone' to speak our minds and share our findings in peaceful surroundings. As vivre mentioned, just start a thread about anything related to Suzanne Somers, and you'll see a flame fest ensue. When Knockout first released, anomdenet started a thread just for that topic, and it got so ugly I'm not sure it even exists anymore. The mods tend to just delete entire threads that become unruly. I deal with the swiftness of this thread by making this my 'hangout'. I read it daily.
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Thanks Deanna and you're right. All of us on here that have said no to conventional BC therapy ARE doing something. The fact that it's not recognized by traditional medicine doesn't make it any less effective. It's just that we are told from a very young age to believe and put our trust in Dr's and I'm still getting used to the fact they don't know everything..... This is a wonderful site and I thank my lucky stars the day I happened upon it.
Terri
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I am sure that most of us on this thread know about PubMed but here is the link.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/
Every day new abstracts appear. I have been taking Turmeric since my surgery because it reduces inflammation and reduces the chance of recurrence. Today I looked it up again and found that new studies indicate that Turmeric can reduce the chances of alzheimer's. It is quite an interesting site.
I am grateful that the moderator allows a thread like this to continue. I was on another cancer board and the moderator would delete any post with even a hint of alternative or complementary options. While I may not try everything that is mentioned on this thread, I have learned a great deal. Thank you all.
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Thank goodness for this thread!!! I have some great recipes for sweets without the high glycemic value. Also, adding cinnamon to anything, including basic apple pie, lowers the glycemic value, making it healthier. I also use organic agave syrup and maple syrup instead of sugar for many deserts. MY DH loves my dark chocolate coconut no cook cookies. 1 cup unsweetened coconut, 1/4 cup organic dark chocolate cocoa powder, dash sea salt, tsp spirulina, 1 cup almond flour, 1 tsp vanilla, 1 tsp cinnamon, enough coconut oil to make dry ingredients adhere and agave syrup to taste (I use very little). Drop by the teaspoonful on parchment paper, put in the fridge for 15 minutes and enjoy! The following is the original recipe but I am a bit of a lazy cookie maker:
Chocolate super energy food:
1tbsp hemp seed (raw organic powder or whole seeds)
1tbsp of raw cacao
1/2tbsp mesquite
1/2tbsp raw coconut sugar
1 pinch of salt
1 pinch of vanilla bean
1 pinch of spirulina
1tsp of coconut butter
1tbsp of water (less or more depending on density preference, can substitute water for hot roobois tea)
Other add if you'd like:
Spirulina, cinnamon, cardamom, peppermint oil, coconut flakes...
Also, can dip banana or strawberries and freeze them or stuff dates for dinner dessert.
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Hi All, I joined this site 2 months ago (diagnosed with Stage IV, 4 months ago). I respect all women trying to fight this terrible disease. Whether it's with conventional, alternative or complimentary therapy...we are all in the same boat together. 1.4 million women are diagnosed every year with breast cancer in this world, 500 000 women die every year from it. We should not waste time critisizing each other, but supporting each other. I can't believe it when I read that women on this thread were treated so awfully just because they had a different opinion. Since we don't really know what causes cancer, and we really don't know what the cure is, we cannot critisize anyone for trying their best to fight this. I wish everyone a festive season, and good health in the coming year...xox
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Hi Everyone. Put coobook author Rebecca Katz on your Christmas list. Her two cookbooks were endorsed by the Block Center and are perfect for everyone either in cancer or recovering or looking to improve health. She advocated cancer fighting foods to a T and they're all simple to follow and chock-a-block-full of wonderful tips.
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I haven't chimed in in quite a while but stop here first thing in the morning everyday. A while back people were talking about their favorite oatmeal combinations. As I'm eating my overnight steel cut oats this morning I thought I'd pass the recipe along. It's so easy and you wake up to a warm bowl of oat goodness! Put 1 cup steel cut oats in a 4-cup Pyrex measuring cup (or something that holds about the same volume), add 3 cups water to the cup. Place the measuring cup in a slow cooker and pour water around the cup...about 1/4-1/2 way up the cup (a water bath). Put the cover on the slow cooker and cook on low for 8 hours or so. You can substitute apple juice for the water if you want it sweeter, add apples, raisins, pumpkin, whatever floats your boat. It's so creamy delicious and it's ready when you get up. I save the leftovers and either reheat or pan sear and put a little maple syrup on them the next morning. Enjoy!!
Also, I have been trying to get my 2:16 estrogen ratio into a respectable range for about 2 years now...have tried various combinations of DIM, eat a plant-based diet very high in cruciferous vegetables to no avail. My integrative medical doctor finally suggested iodine this past summer...I had suggested it about a year ago thanks to this site but he wasn't very familiar with it at that time. Well, just got back my levels after being on iodine for 6 months and I'm finally in the healthy range!! Thank you ladies for all of your great information.
L
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Anyone heard of drinking grape juice to inhibit estrogen? My naturopath mentioned it to me yesterday. Guess I'll have to plant some more grape vines in 2011!
Gracie, Have to agree about Rebecca Katz. Love her cookbooks!
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A UK girl here.....what are steel cut oats. please?
Thanks, Sam
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Bisphosphonates and bone mets..news from the San Antonio Symposium
http://www.latimes.com/sns-ap-us-med-breast-cancer-bone-drug,0,4959189.story
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Lili ~ Which iodine supplement and how much are you taking?
GreenLibrarian ~ I haven't heard of using grape juice, but Grape Seed Extract has shown real promise as an estrogen modulator. http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/66/11/5960.full
Deanna
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Well I'm home from work today with my first urinary infection, I guess from the Femara. Came home with a 102 fever and burning. I've never had one before in my life. Do you lovely ladies have any ideas to try never to get one again. Dr. gave me an antibiotic, and said if it returns again will consider giving me a small does antibiotic to take daily. I really don't want to take any more meds if I don't have to.
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MBJ Dang those cookies sound good! I am trying to avoid sweets, but those are almost health foods! I think I will try your version on my 12 YO (I won't tell him they are healthy!).
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