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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 102
    edited December 2010

    I'm hungry! Mmmm, mashed cauliflower, real butter....think I'll have some.  My DH wishes his wife would be the wonderful bakers and treat makers that some of you are. I can cook but dont really care to and I've never been into making all these great treats I keep hearing about. His mother makes the most wonderful cookies in the world. I tell him I kiss better than I cook so he can come to me for that and go to his mother for cookies.

    Aside from food....

    Is your doctor being paid and manipulated by the drugs companies?

    Interesting CNN news segment.

    http://cnn.com/video/?/video/health/2010/11/23/ac.medical.money.tracking.cnn

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited December 2010

    Thanks for the link about drug company bribes to doctors to promote specific drugs.  It was fascinating.

  • samsue
    samsue Member Posts: 599
    edited December 2010

    Deanna, I love the spiced pecans and they would really make a great hostess gift. Where can I go to find a recipe? Is it a must to use the spices from the store you got them from?

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 2,701
    edited December 2010

    samsue, I found the spice mix I used at this store, which happens to be in the town where I have my antiques business:

    https://secure.spicemerchants.biz/sm/stores/details/9/Temecula

    It's under Spice Blends; Baking; Savory Nut Mix.  One package does 7 cups of very addictive nuts.

    I haven't looked, but I would think you could find similar recipes on-line.     Deanna

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited December 2010

    Khouragio:  I would have never realized that! 

    I find that it's difficult during the holidays to eat and drink healthy, so I do my best. I figure it's not going to kill me once or twice a year if I am doing all of my supplements, and as long as we aren't binging on all of the bad stuff out there all of the time, then we don't have to much to worry about!

  • seaotter
    seaotter Member Posts: 642
    edited December 2010

    Amen to that MBJ. We still have to live, laugh and love!!!!!

    Love to all, Patty

  • MsBliss
    MsBliss Member Posts: 62
    edited December 2010
    Kouragio, yes, the perfume thing goes beyond aldehydes.  Most people don't know this but the mass marketed perfumes, especially the celebrity perfumes, are a concoction of chemicals that smell like the real thing, amplified, but are some very seriously odious chems that don't belong on the skin.  These products sale thru to the consumer but there is no regulation on what's in them.  One of the worst offenders are Glow and Deseo (JLO).  I know this is a casual observation, but my neighbor, who worked at the makeup counter of a department store, used this one constantly and gave it to her mom who also wore it all the time for years.  They both developed the same IDC type within months of each other.
  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited August 2013

    MsBliss:  Funny, I almost never wear perfume, except for a very special occassion as I think it's inappropriate in the workplace and for those who seem to wear a ton of it, yuck, it's quite awful to breath in!  Doesn't surprise me in the least.

  • asschercut
    asschercut Member Posts: 73
    edited December 2010

    If you scroll down it shows you how to better understand what is natural and what is synthetic in your supplements.

    http://www.nutriteam.com/natural.htm#labels

    Background Info on Synthetic vs. Natural Vitamins (Q&A)

    How can I tell if my B vitamin is good?

    "A good example of "junk" nutritional supplements is B vitamins. Most people do not know that most B vitamins are made from petrochemicals! For your best health, take a whole-nutrient B vitamin and avoid synthetics. Synthetics will be listed on the label as follows: Vitamin B1 (thiamine), Vitamin B2 (riboflavin), Vitamin B3 (niacin), Vitamin B5 (calcium pantothenate)."

    http://www.organicconsumers.org/nutricon/qa.cfm

    Good to know...

    Victoria

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited July 2012

    Victoria-I have read a lot about the controversy about the "whole foods" idea of vitamins. I have seen comparisons between companies that sell products like the website you noted, and they have not proven to be any different in outcome. It only takes simple blood tests to determine if supplements are helping. That is the only criterion we need. My blood tests are proof that I was not getting enough nutrients until I started to supplement with pharmaceutical grade supplements. But I do not have the luxury of living by the sea. In fact I just posted a great video on website about Vit D and it shows how disease rates are higher for those of us who live further inland, and North. And even though I do my own organic gardening, our soils have been so over farmed and over fertilized that our foods do have the same value. I read another study that said that spinach from only 20 years ago had 40 times more nutritive value that it does today. There are just too many people, and not enough food on our planet for our nutrition needs. It is not going to be better anytime soon. And I also agree that you have to be very careful about what supplements you take. Indeed, many companies use petroleum as binders. One of the reasons I switched to USANA is because they use olive oil to bind their tables. An easy way to see if petrol is used is to put an apple in a glass of water with a slice of apple and your vitamin. Look at it again in a couple of days. Some of them will actually turn black! That is the oil at work. Some brands will not stop oxidation at all, and some will not even dissolve.

    Very interesting about the Chanel #5. Maybe this did in Jackie O too? She loved the stuff. Of course she was a smoker too, and lived a very unhappy life, so that did not help. The bottom line is we need to put as few carcinogens on our skin as possible, and that includes limiting perfumes (I spray it in the air, and walk through it so it hits my clothes, and only use it rarely). I have worked with a lot of French people. They seem to bathe in the stuff. I wonder what their rate of skin cancer is? As I mentioned, I have a great book that has been well researched about the truth and rumors about skin care.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 2,701
    edited December 2010

    Well, isn't this interesting?  http://www.pharmpro.com/news/2010/12/government-and-regulatory-Pharmaceutical-Industry-Is-Biggest-Defrauder-of-the-Federal-Government/?et_cid=870341&et_rid=60911705&linkid=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pharmpro.com%2fnews%2f2010%2f12%2fgovernment-and-regulatory-Pharmaceutical-Industry-Is-Biggest-Defrauder-of-the-Federal-Government%2f      This kind of news makes me extra glad for the intelligent women here who know what it's like to have a bc dx, aren't afraid to question the logic and limitations of what conventional medicine has to offer, see the importance of individual differences, and believe in the wisdom of listening to our own bodies. 

    I also wanted to mention that I recently purchased my first jar of coconut oil, and I am so impressed with the improvement in my skin after just a few days.  I don't know why I didn't try it sooner, but probably a combination of rarely using creams or lotions on my body (too sticky, etc.) and the notion that the smell would be too sweet.  But, surprisingly, neither is true, and the skin on my hands and legs, especially, is looking considerably better than it was.  So, thanks to those of you here who have mentioned coconut oil in the past.     Deanna

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited December 2010

    Deanna:  I first started having health problems when I moved to North Hollywood/Toluca Lake of over 12 years ago.  I drank Brita water then and my thyroid went wacky and I started having weight gain problems and severe fibroid problems.  I think it eventally led to my BC diagnosis.

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 166
    edited December 2010

    MBJ- So true about the holidays. I am going to just allow myself to enjoy it a little bit and not stress too much about the stuff I'm really *not* supposed to be eating or drinking. We have to live a little bit, eh?

    Deanna- The pharma report just solidifies it all for me.... BP is not to be trusted, and our entire system is complicit in this. It's pretty messed up, and very unfortunate that our docs are trained to use drugs rather than help determine the cause to help their patients. (in any realm of medicine, not just the cancer realm!)

    Asshercut- Interesting about the vitamins. My B Vitamins listed as B2 (Riboflavin PHosphate), B3(Niacin), B6 (Pyroxidine HCI), B12 (Cyanocobalamin), B5 (dexpanthenol) (Called B Sublingual Total). Are those synthetic?

  • Cat123
    Cat123 Member Posts: 47
    edited December 2010

    Hi everyone!  I am starting chemo on Wednesday....dd ACT.  I had wanted CMF since it is less toxic but they were really pushing the ACT because of the size of my tumour and 4 nodes positive.  I hope I am doing the right thing.  I am very into the naturopathic side of getting rid of cancer.  I am now vegan.  Should I take supplements while on chemo?  My doc is against it.  Which supplements would make me feel better?  Did you 'natural' girls do chemo too?  I could also stand to lose a few pounds and am scared of gaining while on chemo.  What foods did you eat while on chemo that made you feel better and that made you lose/maintain weight?  I am still drinking red wine...my vice but I guess that is not good for strongly ER positive?

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited December 2010

    Cat123:  sorry you have to do the chemo.  I did alternative and chemo throughout, though I had 6 x TC.  Rule of thumb is no supplements the day before or during the 3 day period when chemo is doing it's job.  Then it's okay to do vitamins, minerals and supports.  I craved protein the entire time and was practically a vegan prior to my BC diagnosis but now I eat everything, just organic, in small amounts and grass fed only.  I can have a little bit of red wine because I am TN but it's highly inflamatory and promotes estrogen, from what I have heard.  The dr. who wrote Anti Cancer a New Way of Life is a good one to read and also Rebecca Katz cook books will help you get through chemo.  Your taste buds will be challenged.  I never thought I was hungry but my DH would cook and I would eat, but I had to add salt, lemon or maple syrup to everything in order to taste it.  Quite a challenge.  I lost weight while on chemo but I also did alot of juicing throughout and never gained the weight back due to lifestyle changes.  Hope this helps and good luck with your chemo.

  • Suzanne3131
    Suzanne3131 Member Posts: 2,000
    edited December 2010

    Deanna--After you slather it on your skin, don't forget to slather it on your toast!!  It is soooo delicious!  Sometimes I just eat a half a teaspoonful right out of the jar...oh it makes me feel great!  And I am certain that eating it is still really great for your skin!

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 730
    edited December 2010

    Any opinion on flax seed?  I know it can help balance the Omega 3/Omega6 ratio.  Is it contraindicated in ER+ BC? 

  • Luna5
    Luna5 Member Posts: 532
    edited December 2010

    Patty & Julia....so glad you sailed through your procedures.

    Trying to catch up on everyone's posts as I am 7 days behind:(

  • x-raygirl
    x-raygirl Member Posts: 97
    edited December 2010

    Deanna ~ do you use coconut oil as a moisturizer?   I haven't seen it before - will look next time I'm at the health food store.   My skin is getting SO dry.

  • seaotter
    seaotter Member Posts: 642
    edited December 2010

    x-raygirl - I get my coconut oil at the grocery. I think it is near all the other oils. I buy Spectrum organic coconut oil. One jar will last you a long time.

    Patty

  • x-raygirl
    x-raygirl Member Posts: 97
    edited December 2010

    do it use it on your face?

  • seaotter
    seaotter Member Posts: 642
    edited December 2010

    I use it everywhere possible, lol! I put some on my face and if it looks to oily I just dab a paper towel and get the excess off. You will love it!

    Patty

  • Suzanne3131
    Suzanne3131 Member Posts: 2,000
    edited December 2010

    If you like the mild smell of coconut, be sure to get the unrefined coconut oil (or maybe they call it "virgin"?)  It is heavenly!!  I keep it in a small bowl with a lid (like a candy dish) on my bathroom vanity....and smear it everywhere after each shower.  I even put a tiny amount on my fingertips and rub it into my scalp when my hair is wet...it has made a huge difference in the condition of my hair and scalp this winter!

  • x-raygirl
    x-raygirl Member Posts: 97
    edited December 2010

    thanks - it's on my list!

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 496
    edited December 2010

    Julia glad to hear you are doing so well. And yes the whole MX thing isn't so bad after all. Just sounds scary more than anything. Look forward to the future and put it behind you.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 2,701
    edited December 2010

    x-raygirl, the coconut oil I bought is Kelapo, and I actually picked it up at a Marshalls, in their gourmet foods section.  It's 100% pure, cold pressed, unrefined and organic.  It has the consistency of moist, whipped vaseline (at least at room temp), and, as MBJ suggested, is absolutely good enough to eat, although I think I need to buy a fresh jar for that.  This brand also has an occasional tiny shred of coconut in it, but so few you can easily pick them off your skin.  To answer your question, yes, I've been using it on my face, and, honestly, I'm crazy about it.  I've been alternating it with my very pricey moisturizer, and, so far, no loss of ground, but it's only been about a week.     Deanna

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited December 2010

    Designermom:  Chia seeds are more stable and a great source of protein so I switched.  Hope this helps.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 506
    edited December 2010

    Hi ladies, I'm having yet another anniversary.  Today marks six years from my diagnosis.  It still boggles my mind how truly crappy I felt for years.  Docs did very little more than shrug their shoulders, run tests, or offer me antidepressants.  It's a good thing I'm stubborn.  I don't give up easily.  My supplements, diet and lifestyle have finally taken me to restored health.  ...all with the help of everyone here.  Love y'all.  Happy Solstice too.  

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 266
    edited December 2010

    Athlea: Congratulations, amazing what lifestyle changes and diet can do for our health. "Even those gals on Als have to do the lifestyle changes and diet etc. for the drug to work," according to my oncologist.

    Question about coconut oil, what's the difference between the oil and coconut butter? I bought the Organics coconut butter body lotion and have been using that. I suppose the difference could be the consistency or texture? Or perhaps the oil is in it's natural state before being churned into a butter? I will check out the oil. Now that I am in lovely Florida, I am back spending 2 hours per week doing laps, and gosh, that chlorine is tough on the skin. So far, the coconut butter isn't helping.

    Glenis