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DesignerMom, my DH recently told me (when I raised a similar concern) that Vietnam has much stricter food regulations and FDA-type oversight that the US. I forget where he told me he read that, but I think he's probably right. Deanna
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DesignerMom: That is exactly it, cellulose, brilliant !
Nope, kinda wary of those lagoons also. Being close to the East Coast, aren't you just spoiled rotten with all the fresh fish ? Lobster ! yum, just the thought of it !
I don't eat beef either, but because my ferritin is sow low, I have to eat red meat, so found me some buffalo. Took me a while to decide to buy it, a bit more expansive than beef, and found it delicious ! It's tender, no fat and please tell me that buffalos feed on green grass outdoors and are not fed antibiotics !
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Luan- Enjoy that buffalo. I can't imagine they are not grass fed. Let's hope they are "letting the buffalo roam".
dlb- Thanks for the feedback on Vietnam shrimp. There seems to be a lot imported from there. Come to think of it, pretty much anyplace would have better oversight than the FDA. They seem about as useless as tits on a rooster! A friend's 85 YO mom got one of those bad eggs last year and it nearly killed her. She was a cancer survivor and nearly died from a lousy, filthy egg!
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Buffalo is great, my hub and I really enjoy it. I'm like you, hoping that they have a better diet than the poor cows and pigs on those huge industrial farms.
The idea of farmed fish still kind of scares me as they are usually fed wheat are they not? And that's not what fish should eat so it makes them less nutritious. Although then you have to contend with the poor fish that are full of pollutants. Again:
Argh!
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I eat grass fed hormone free FL raised beef maybe once a week. I have to because I need the ferritin, too. Maybe once a month I'll eat uncured all beef (hormone free) hot dogs. Yum. Lucky for me, I can get fresh fish all year round though not so sure about the fish from the eastern Gulf of Mexico. We have shrimp farms here in FL, too. I eat a lot of quinoa also. I will definitely look into buffalo. Sounds yummy.
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Designermom - u had me all cracked up, darn bladder... ! Need to go to Rona
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Before Dr Debakey passed away he gave a tlak here in Houston at the monthly BIO breakfast and to quote "Bad fIsh kills more people than any other food"....I do know I won't buy fish from Aisa-they have huge vats and just dump in antibiotics - leaving the dead sick fish in there..now not all the pleaces, but enough of them...no thanks...it is all scary crazy
like you said DM- a damn egg...
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Question ...re..Arnica and Bromelain for 2 wks prior to surgery...???
A close family member is having one of those eye bag removal surgeries. Stupid eye bags run in our family. Anyway,he said he was told by the nurse to take arnica and bromelain for 2 weeks prior to the surgery to reduce bruising and swelling. But she didn't tell him how much or which brand...said just go to the GNC and ask for it.
I've done some googling and there seems to be concern about oral arnica if it isn't the homeopathic kind but I don't know what brands are homeopathic. I told him what I know about bromelain which is basically that I take quercetin w/bromelain because the bromelain makes the quercetin more absorbable...but other than that don't know much about it except it comes from pineapple.
Anybody know anything about this Arnica and Bromelain for 2 weeks before surgery?
I even found one article that said too much arnica can cause blood thinning which doesn't sound appropriate before surgery.
Should he take it at all? How much? Another article said oral arnica should only be taken under strict doctor supervision. Topical arnica cream gets a pretty good rep on google except it says not to use it near the eyes or on incisions.
On the one hand, my family thinks I take too many supplements and shouldn't. On the other, when they have a question about one, they seem to think I know about them all.
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I have taken Arnica before every surgery. I forget which one--10x maybe?
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Regarding buffalo, my DH and I eat it whenever we can afford it. In fact we just had buffalo ribeyes for his birthday. We occasionally eat a beef steak at a restaurant, but I never serve beef at home. I have been told by more than one buffalo rancher that there is no point to giving buffalo hormones or feeding them grain because it won't fatten them or make them gain weight the way it does for cattle. Grass fed beef ( and buffalo) are also great because they have CLA, a healthy fat found in grass fed animals. I just find grass fed beef to be tough and a little strong tasting, I guess because I was raised on grain fed beef.
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Jules: I so agree with you on grass fed beef being a bit tough--Then I got a locally grown, organic, grass fed beef with fat in it from my Co-Op and it is nothing like the crap they sell at Whole Foods! It was the yummiest beef I have ever had--melted in my mouth. It also tasted like it was slaughtered just that morning it was so fresh. My FIL feeds their cow beer along with the grass grazing to fatten them up.
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Hmm, we have a herd of bison at the Fermi Lab near me. Who knows what kind of nuclear energy they are full of. The whole place scares me. My friend has one of those gauss meters and she is sick everytime she is home. She checks the meter and it is going crazy. She lived in a beeline to the accelerator. This is where they did the first tests for atomic energy. She swears the gauss meter would go off only at certain times, she would check on line, and would find they were testing at the same times at Fermi. Energy travels through our water tables. Her house must of been right over it. She finally moved and her health issues went away.
So even if they are having a bisonbarbieq I am not going near the place. They have some great biking areas there, but I won't bike there either. I have always wondered if the fact that my county has the 2nd highest rate of bc in the US has anything to do with FermiLab.
I would however consider moving to texas. Not just for the Bison but to go to a less taxing state. We are being sucked dry.
Sherry-I would like to know about that special needs kids camp. We have several kids in our family who might like it.
Luna-I don't know anything about surgery protocols, but I can say that I can identify with the bags under the eyes. It runs in my family too, and I had dark circles from the time I was young. Well, since I cleaned up my diet, the bags and circles are gone. I look at my diabetic cousins and their under eyes look horrible (even though they have beautiful Italian eyes). Maybe you want to suggest that your family member try changing the diet before undergoing surgery.
As for the fish, remember that mercury is an issue with all fish. Dr. Hal Huggins says we should not have any fish if we have mercury fillings. I have to eat something, so I have it now and then. But I eat only wild caught, frozen, small fish. The smaller the fish, the less toxins they have absorbed because they are down on the food chain. Those farmed fish are horrible.
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Going back for just a moment to that study Althea had posted about the 2% overall effectiveness of chemo... and absolutely not refuting that conventional medicine can be grossly oversold, poorly delivered, and comes with horrible SEs... Here's that study that I knew I'd read that seems to say that tx advances are making a much better than 2% difference in breast cancer outcome:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/203070.php
Merilee, I hope this helps to reassure you. Deanna
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Designer Mom, I have heard different things about the fishing in Vietnam. Some of it bad, some good. I am avoiding all fish/seafood from the South Pacific / Far East at the moment, but more due to the nuclear waste that came from the Japanese disaster. We used to buy a lot of cod and barramundi imported from Vietnam and New Zealand, but I guess we'll just stick to Salmon and Red Snapper for the time being.
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vivre I think it was annette who mention the special needs kids camp. Where do you live that your bc rate in your county is so high? I swear something is going on in my county as it seems every time I turn around someone new has cancer of some sort.
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dlb........me too, thanks for the feedback on shrimp from Vietnam......My concern ws since it was close to Japan could the shrimp be contaminated from the nuclear waste, but its good to know that the data on their shrimp............... I'm sue they are checking them closley for contamination, if they are careful about most things.thanks again.
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Hey Vivre...move to Florida! No State Income Tax here:) Love to have you
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Luna ~ I know of several PS who suggest pts taking Arnica several days prior and several days after sx. My naturopath gave me a stronger dosage. Otherwise, check out Whole Foods or a natural food store near you. Re: bromelain, pineapple works too. It's loaded with the stuff.
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Jules59...thanks for the info on buffalo...I buy buffalo that is supposedly free of stuff at Publix...and at a local restaurant they said "buffalo don't need antibiotics"....glad you shared your info from actual buffalo farmers.
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Deanna
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/203070.php
Thanks for posting this. When you have tried all the natural paths and still have two recurrences such as I have it is very difficult to relent to doing the chemo. It is discouraging to hear negative things about it. So I appreciate you taking the time to find this and post it. I do think one thing to consider is the side affects, and how well they are handled and managed. On Chemo one must take extreme diligence to care for one self, both during and after. I wonder if any one has done a study on the effects of excellent care during chemo vs just leaving the healing to what ever people can find. Just some random thoughts this morning, because as I talk with other ladies often they do not know what do do to detox or start the healing process that that chemo requires.
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Vivre- it is called CAMPCAMP...go to campcamp.org....truly a wonderous place- a real camp, with real experiences for all the kids (up to 30yrs) Last year my son did a zipline over the river, canoed, rode a horse, went out in the woods for a campfire in the middle of the night, archery (for god's sake that freaks me out!)...it goes on and on...they have one week sessions throughout the summer each depending on diagnosis and age. There is even a fully staffed infirmary for those with really involved medical needs. Russ always comes home a little more confident, a little more independant than he was before. It is located about an hour outside of San Antonio.
There is another camp in Burton, Texas called Camp for All. It also hosts various groups throughout the summer and while the one above is more for autism, mr, etc- this camp has specific weeks targeting seeminly all ailments from hemophilia to blindness to MD- again, a great place. They direct you to the organization that is sponsoring the specific week of camp. This is a "fancier" camp than Campcamp...looks like a resort down to the cabins...
although my son prefers the other 'messier" camp...after no shaving for a week he looks like grizzly adams under that big smile:)
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Thanks for the info Annette. It just breaks my heart, how hard it is for families with special needs. My SIL has to constantly fight for her son in the city. We have a great program in my town. So great that families move here just for that, and this has put a huge burden on our school district. It is shameful that the city of Chicago, which gets almost twice is much money from the state per student as the burbs is not doing right by these kids. If just a fraction of the money that goes to all the pinkwalking went to these kids...
Does your son adjust to the change in routine okay? My nephew has real problems everytime he changes schools (which happens a lot because of the situation he is in). Do you notice any difference with his diet? My nephew will hardly eat anything healthy. BTW, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny and Dr. Eisenstein will be speaking about autism at the Health and Freedom Expo. Dr. Eisenstien has a family practice and he discourages vaccines. He has had NO autistic children as a result. Yet we are continually told there is no link. I really wonder what happened to first do no harm.
Luna-I love florida, but not sure I could live anywhere hot. I really like winter. I guess I could always be a real snowbird, you know the kind that actually flies north, to the snow instead of going south in winter. And I am totally phobic about snakes. Not sure I could live anywhere they exist. I can't even go in the reptile house at the zoo, or look at pics in books. Maybe I was cleopatra in a previous life.lol
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Vivre...if you hate hot (the weather kind) ...then you might be surprised to know how many of us in our 50's and those older grew up without air conditioning even here in this hot state. The other shocking thing we did was ride our bikes behind the mosquito spray trucks in the spray/fog....makes me sick to think about it now...but at the time it had a sweet smell and we thought the fog was fun...dangerous on so many levels.
Nowadays, we often go from central heat night and morning to A/C during the day. Now that I am informed....I try to at least leave the window next to the head of my bed open a bit during the night to get that fresh night and early morning air. I'm training myself to open the windows more...except it encourages the dogs to jump on the screens....and I don't get near bug spray.
Crazy thing though...I leave my air conditioned house to drive in my air conditioned car to an air conditioned club to get in a sauna and steam room to sweat !
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Anybody know much about Astaxanthin? Should BC girls take it?
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Bromelain is in wobenzymes too. It's wonderful for cancer folks pre and post surgery. It reduces inflammation, and combined with mcp it supposedly reduces the rate of cancer mets from surgery. You can take buckets of it with no Ill effects. In many of the cancer spas in Mexico and Germany, it is considered a standard treatment.
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Can any of you Iodine ladies give me advice? I am supplementing with Iodine and trying to figure it out on my own as I can't afford a Naturopath. I did have the Iodine loading test baseline and thyroid bloodwork baseline. Now my Onc called to say my TSH is elevated (it's 9.23 in a range of .55-4.78). I asked for the T3 and T4 but she wouldn't run them saying she wouldn't be able to advise anyway, that I should get the more detailed thyroid tests from my regular doctor. As my regular doctor is not Iodine literate, what should I ask her to check?? Should I go off the Iodine? Reduce it? I have been taking 50 mg/day with ATP Cofactor and companion nutrients for 3 months. I tried to find advice on the yahoo iodine group, but I find that site not very helpful.
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Is anyone taking Quercetin? It was touted as a cure for cancer in spam PMs over the weekend. I was curious about it, and found this (along with a more complete explanation of how it works) on the MSK's website:
"Quercetin is thought to have antioxidant, anti-inflammatory and anti-allergy properties. In vitro data suggest quercetin may have anti-cancer effects (1), but more clinical study is needed to explore this potential."
While I was on that MSK website, I looked up a few other things, and while the information about them all was generally positive, I was surprised to find these caveats re. using Resveratrol or Rooibos Tea if you have hormone positive bc:
"Several cell culture and animal studies show that resveratrol inhibits proliferation of cancer cells via apoptosis and by exerting anti-estrogenic effects (3)(4)(5)(6). However, contradictory data from other studies showed that it acts as a phytoestrogen and could activate genes that are normally regulated by estrogen (7) or androgen (8). Resveratrol was found to inactivate some enzymes of the CYP450 family in tumor cells (9)(10). Therefore cancer patients with hormone-sensitive diseases, such as estrogen receptor-positive breast cancer and prostate cancer should avoid resveratrol as it may stimulate the proliferation of certain tumor cells."
"Because compounds isolated from rooibos leaves demonstrated estrogenic activity (22), patients with hormone-sensitive cancers should use caution before taking rooibos."
Just thought I share this info, since I know we've talked about Resveratrol and teas in the past. Deanna
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Thanks for the news on resveratrol. I take quercetin and along with wobenzym find it helpful for for my early arthritis.
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I don;t know where to post this, but please say prayers for the family of my dear friend Lex, he was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2005, bile duct cancer in 2009 and liver cancer in 2010, he passed away last week, I am in shock because he didn't let anyone know he was so ill, I am beyond sad, he was such an amazing man, he used to do soooo much for breast cancer survivors, fund raising, talking at conferences and so much more, he will be so missed, my heart is aching....
L
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fairy49, prayers going up for your friend Lex. It's so sad when someone looses this battle.
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