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Annettk, I think the website hlth gave you is the only place you can order online. Usually it is sold by TOM dr's. Do you have one in your area you could go to? One of my friends who goes to a TOM gets it from him. My dr is giving me something else. I would like to read what the trials are that Moffitt is doing with the herb combo. Apparently it's used in China all the time for so many health unbalances.
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Great article by Dr. Mercola:
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Sherry, it was so nice meeting you in person yesterday. I really enjoyed our visit. Joy, you'd have the furthest of anyone to travel for a meetup, but I sure hope it might happen someday nonetheless. Mollyann, your post really made me laugh that you remembered my Thanksgiving story. ...and I'd forgotten that I issued an invitation to my house for the next Thanksgiving. lol Well, the offer still stands, but if I have more than four people, the menu won't be pheasant under glass.
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Althea I enjoyed yesterday so much. I also laughed when I read Molly Anns post I had forgotten about the pheasant
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Bravo! Sherry and althea. Like Sheila, I am also looking for the "like" button!
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Thanks MBJ ... I take 8 mg a day Mercola on Dr. Oz spoke about it there
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Woo hoo! I love you girls! So glad to have found this thread;) After my BLMX I told my oncologist I needed time to think about Tamoxifen. 3 weeks. He treated me like an idiot. When I returned I had a boat load of info regarding Tamoxifen being a known carcinogen that causes cancer & nutritional therapy that is documented to work. His attitude changed and asked me if I would send him info;)
Known supplements proven to be effective:
Iscador ( Misteltoe)
Modified Citrus Pectin
DIM ( Indole 3 Carbinol)
On Tuesday my NP Dr. Is doing a hormone panel and complete metabolic panel, then starting my preventative treatment. so excited to start!0 -
Me and althea
Althea on the left and Sherry on the right. Last Saturday when we were able to get together and meet each other.
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Great Picture Sherry and Althea! Great you could get together. Thanks for sharing!
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thanks for all the info folks
what a beautfiul picture- made my day to see two sistahs smiling:)
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This should be on the cutie thread
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Just saw a documentary on this:
Michael Pollan Food Rules List:
1. Eat food2. Don't eat anything your great-grandmother wouldn't recognize as food
- 3. Avoid food products containing ingredients that no ordinary human would keep in the pantry
- 4. Avoid food products that contain high-fructose corn syrup
- 5. Avoid food products that have some form of sugar (or sweetener listed among) the top three ingredients
- 6. Avoid food products that have more than 5 ingredients
- 7. Avoid food products containing ingredients that a third-grader cannot pronounce
- 8. Avoid food products that make health claims
- 9. Avoid food products with the wordoid "lite" or the terms "low fat" or "nonfat" in their names
- 10. Avoid foods that are pretending to be something they are not
- 11. Avoid foods you see advertised on television
- 12. Shop the peripheries of the supermarket and stay out of the middle
- 13. Eat only foods that will eventually rot
- 14. Eat foods made from ingredients that you can picture in their raw state or growing in nature
- 15. Get out of the supermarket whenever you can
- 16. Buy your snacks at the farmers market
- 17. Eat only foods that have been cooked by humans
- 18. Don't ingest foods made in places where everyone is required to wear a surgical cap
- 19. If it came from a plant, eat it; if it was made in a plant, don't.
- 20. It's not food if it arrived through the window of your car
- 21. It's not food if it's called by the same name in every language (Think Big Mac, Cheetos or Pringles)
- 22. Eat mostly plants, especially leaves
- 23. Treat meat as a flavoring or special occasion food
- 24. Eating what stands on one leg [mushrooms and plant foods] is better than eating what stands on two legs [fowl], which is better than eating what stands on four legs [cows, pigs and other mammals].
- 25. Eat your colors
- 26. Drink the spinach water
- 27. Eat animals that have themselves eaten well
- 28. If you have space, buy a freezer
- 29. Eat like an omnivore
- 30. Eat well-grown food from healthy soil
- 31. Eat wild foods when you can
- 32. Don't overlook the oily little fishes
- 33. Eat some foods that have been predigested by bacterial or fungi
- 34. Sweeten and salt your food yourself
- 35. Eat sweet foods as you find them in nature
- 36. Don't eat breakfast cereals that change the color of the milk
- 37. The whiter the bread, the sooner you'll be dead
- 38. Favor the kinds of oils and grains that have traditionally been stone-ground
- 39. Eat all the junk food you want as long as you cook it yourself
- 40. Be the kind of person who takes supplements - then skip the supplements
- 41. Eat more lie the French. Or the Japanese. Or the Italians. Or the Greeks.
- 42. Regard nontraditional foods with skepticism
- 43. Have a glass of wine with dinner
- 44. Pay more, eat less
- 45. Eat less
- 46. Stop eating before you're full
- 47. Eat when you are hungry, not when you are bored
- 48. Consult your gut
- 49. Eat slowly
- 50. The banquet is in the first bite
- 51. Spend as much time enjoying the meal as it took to prepare it
- 52. Buy smaller plates and glasses
- 53. Serve a proper portion and don't go back for seconds
- 54. Breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, dinner like pauper
- 55. Eat meals
- 56. Limit your snacks to unprocessed plant foods
- 57. Don't get your fuel from the same place your car does
- 58. Do all your eating at a table
- 59. Try not to eat alone
- 60. Treat treats as treats
- 61. Leave something on your plate
- 62. Plant a vegetable garden if you have space, a window box if you don't
- 63. Cook
- 64. Break the rules once in a while
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MBJ love the list thanks for sharing it
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First, love the photo, Sherry! Thanks so much for sharing. You both look radiant. And, Althea, you look much younger than I've had you pictured all this time!
MBJ, that list is fantastic, but I'm not sure I get #40. Does he mean, don't be rigid about your supplement regimen, or don't take them, period? I'd love to see that film, and also pass it along to a neighbor who wants to lose 70 lbs. Was it on TV or can I get it somewhere? Deanna
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MBJ- Thanks for sharing Michael Pollan's list. I enjoyed his books, but this is a wonderful "to do" list.
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Loved that list. Thanks, MBJ.
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Thanks MBJ ! great list, will pass it on to my son....great reminder for me
I brought up the commercial deodorant subject before coz I swore when I found the lump to never use it again. So, I found a natural and organic deodorant stick made with mineral salts, non staining, fragrance free, hypoallergenic, no parabens, no aluminium chlorhydrate, no propylene glycol and not tested on animals. They do exist
Hope it works, cause summer's here at last !
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Deanna: http://fora.tv/2010/01/23/Michael_Pollan_on_Food_Rules_An_Eaters_Manual
The above is the link to watch it on line--we have a Roku and downloaded it to our tv.
For those of us who have had chemo or radiation, I think we need the supplements, so I am ignoring 40. I think that if we eat nutrient rich foods every meal, every day we shouldn't need the supplements, but much of our soil here is depleted and many organic foods are still working with soil that has been depleted so I will continue doing supplements until I can assure myself I am getting what my body needs. Also, many of the supplements we are taking are for already compromised immune systems which we are trying to rebuild!
My DH and I are trying to completely revise our food intake--we were already doing organic, but really, really need to try and avoid the supermarket. You know, after going to Italy and France, the food here in comparision is just tasteless even if it is organic. Very frustrating. It is a challenge to try and grow vegetables on a balcony and if I had jsut a patch of land I would be growing mostly my own vegetables in orgainic soil and I would also composte. .
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MBJ- I am seriously thinking about growing veggies hydroponically. The systems this NYC chef uses on his rooftop to grow all his veggies take seeds to full growth in only 4 weeks, strawberries, tomatoes, anything. Look at the Nightline news video in this clip. My linky thing won't work. You have to copy and paste.
http://ny.eater.com/archives/2010/08/a_tour_of_bell_book_and_candles_rooftotable_garden.php
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Althea and Sherry-Love the pic! Hopefully we will have a bigger reunion someday! Could you send me the names of those autism camps again? I can't remember where I put the names.
I had the cutest little visitor this morning. My neighbor's little guy is selling eggs from their chickens. I also get free manure from their horse for my garden. I feel so blessed to have found this little one block haven in the midst of suburbia. We are unincorporated, so we can still raise animals. Maybe I should get a goat to start on my 2 acres of weeds. But no longer did my little visitor leave, and I saw a huge coyote in my yard. I sure hope they have those chickens well-cooped!
Oh,and the eggs are colored. I need to go down and find out what kind of chickens lay colored eggs.
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Luan,
A very belated thank you for the info on fenugreek seeds for anemia. I just heard about it again which put a bug in my ear to go out and get some. My onc just put me on ferrous sulfate cause my count has continued to drop a little. Hmm, wonder if it's ok to do the ferrous sulfate and fenugreek both?
Rachel
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Rachel, been prescribed iron for many years and never took it except for shots which I had approx 15 years ago in buttocks. Damn those hurt. If I had known back then what I know today, would never never had those done. Very wary about the stuff. I have to do much more digging about low ferritin, as it might be a state our body tries to keep us in (homeostasis), cancer feeds on iron.....scary, I know, will definitely let you know what I find when I come around again to that issue. In the meantime, I take the fenugreek tabs coz I found this as a bonus :
".....Our experiments show that while the soybean extract acts as a promoter of MCF-7 cell growth, the fenugreek extract induces apoptosis"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17850779
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19197146
Cancer is the second leading cause of death worldwide. Conventional therapies cause serious side effects and, at best, merely extend the patient's lifespan by a few years. Cancer control may therefore benefit from the potential that resides in alternative therapies. There is thus an increasing demand to utilize alternative concepts or approaches to the prevention of cancer. In this report, we show a potential protective effect of Fenugreek seeds against 7,12-dimethylbenz(alpha)anthracene (DMBA)-induced breast cancer in rats. At 200 mg/kg b.wt., Fenugreek seeds' extract significantly inhibited the DMBA-induced mammary hyperplasia and decreased its incidence. Epidemiological studies also implicate apoptosis as a mechanism that might mediate the Fenugreek's anti-breast cancer protective effects. To our knowledge, this is the first study that suggests significant chemopreventive effects of Fenugreek seeds against breast cancer
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Rachel, also had this thread going: Iron deficiency anemia, warning, link does not work:
"Hello - I just read in some posts that doctors had prescribed iron supplements for IDA. While on TAC, my onco gave me such a prescription as my ferritin was (and has been for a long time) in the 0 range. Browsing, I discovered a severe interaction between the doxorubucin and the iron supplement prescribed. When I showed it to my onco, he read it 2X, shrugged and told me he was not aware of this. Needless to say, I immediately discontinued taking the iron supplement. Found the article on www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
Potentiation of Doxorubicin cardiotoxicity by iron loading in a rodent model.
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This link should work.This sentence about soy is worrying:Our experiments show that while the soybean extract acts as a promoter of MCF-7 cell growth, the fenugreek extract induces apoptosis.-Sheila-0
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Great info Luan! Thank you!!!!
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Designermom: My MIL is doing this in Kentucky!
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MBJ- Hopefully you can learn some tips from your MIL. I know no dirt is used for hydroponics, only water and nutrients. I am wondering if safe, organic nutrients are available to add to the water? I hope you can pick your MIL brain if she is already doing it.
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I couldn't find Fenugreek in any form. Do I need to go to a health food shop?
-Sheila-
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I found it in my health food store. Been taking it for about a week now.
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Hi Joy, here in Cnda, our pharmacies are well stocked with supplements of all sorts. One brand I like because I trust and is not too expansive is Swiss, on their bottle it says it's good for digestion, so lots of goodies in Fenugreek seeds, to your health !
P.S. about soy, from what I gather from a lot of ladies here Joy, most stay away from any form of soy if they are ER pos.
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