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  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited May 2011

    I get raw milk and raw milk products from a co-op in Santa Monica.  Because it isn't pasteurized they recommend bringing a cooler to prevent it's turning sour on the way home.  I get all grass fed cheeses, yogurts, etc. from here.  I don't ingest much due to the fat, but when I do I want it to not be mass produced dairy products.

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited May 2011

    Luan:  What a gorgeous cow!! No really, I think they are beautiful.  We don't have those in California.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited May 2011

    MBJ, The most efficient dairy breed, Jerseys produce the richest milk

    http://naj.usjersey.com/TheJerseyCow.aspx

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited May 2011

    Luan:  I actually knew this!  California breeds tend to cause the most alergic reactions :(

  • samsue
    samsue Member Posts: 599
    edited May 2011

    Luan, yes the Jersey is really a great cow... very gentle. They produce a lot of cream so it would settle to the top of the jar and I would skim it off for butter. Mom however would shake the jar most of the time so the cream would be mixed. I liked the milk better when it had been skimmed. It also made the best ice cream! I also made yogurt.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited May 2011

    MBJ, have u tried goat,s milk? I cant afford to cook with it, but its great with cereals, and a good glass of milk, supposed to be a very good energizer



    Samsue, those sound like very nice memories :) if i lived in the country, i would definitely adopt a jersey, horses, a few goats, lambs, chickens, many cats and dogs, oh only in my dreams !!

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited May 2011

    It is so shameful that the FDA is destroying small farmers who dare to sell fresh milk and artesan cheeses becasue they do not pasteurize. Pastuerizing kills the nutrients in dairy. This is the milk generations of people grew up on, now they want to outlaw it. This is insane. Yes, there were the occasional food poisonings from milk when a cow had eaten a toxic plant, but good grief, how many people have gotten salmonella (including my aunt) from pasteurized milk from the grocery store. My aunt never recovered from that.

  • childressvv
    childressvv Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2011

    Hi,

    I see a naturopath and she has put me on a 'cancer free' diet. I do not follow it religiously but try to do the best I can. It does include drinking green juice 16 - 20 ounces per day. I have no problem with that. I juice anything that is green. And just for the record there is very little juice in a brussel sprout. I add the juice of one lemon and that make it more palatable. I sometimes add the juice of a green apple and that makes it taste really good. Keep in mind, since you are dealing with fresh produce (preferably organic) that the taste will vary depending on the season and the greens you choose.

    She also recommends eating as much raw as possible. I am also drinking a shake twice a day that includes:

    1 Tablespoon Ground pumpkin seed protein, 1 tablespoon fresh ground flax seed, fresh made almond milk (or store bought, but fresh is better), then you can add berries or cacao. Sometimes I use HEMP protein instead of pumpkin seed. I prefer the cacao and it taste like a chocolate milk shake......I also add a little agave for sweetness.

    I could go on.....I am BRCA 2 + and am trying to keep my right breast (doctors dont get it). I had a friend diagnosed with ovarian cancer the week I got my BRCA test results back, so that put me in a tail spin and I had a prophylactic total hysterectomy. I am pissed about the hysterectomy part. I am OK with giving up the ovaries and tubes (I am 53) as I believe there is a real risk that I did not want to take. HOWEVER, I later learned the uterus did not have to go. So I have a meeting with my surgeon and I am going to ask some hard questions and she better have some good answers....I am mad......

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited May 2011

    childresssvv:  Wow, I am so sorry to hear about the hysterectomy!  I was in a similar predicament many years ago.  I had horrible fibroids and they wanted to give me a full hyterectomy.  I said absolutely not.  Instead, they took an ovary  (without my permission-sai it was an accident).  You have every right to be angry.  Hugs!

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited May 2011

    Luan:  I truly hate goat's milk, though I love goat cheese!  I don't eat cereal or drink milk.  I only use cream in my one a day coffee.  How wonderful to have fresh yogurt and ice cream!

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited May 2011

    Childressvv, hello, sorry to hear too, medical errors happen.  A top-notch onco/gyn told me that even if BRAC came back pos to keep my uterus, even though I'm on Tamox and there are risks of endometrial cancer.  Let us know what your surgeon says...

    MBJ, I also prefer yogurt, ice cream and cheese to straight milk Wink

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited May 2011

    Vivre, if you read this, am already adding some apple cider vinegar to water in a.m., what ratio of baking soda/cider/water do you use ?  thanks in advance Smile

    Gov't is crashing down pretty hard on them too here in Cnda, but they put up quite a fight, it's presently before the Appeals Court in Ontario

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 754
    edited May 2011

    Luan, My father in law swore by apple cider vinegar for health. He had cancer back in the 80's from smoking and lived another 25-30 years and took it daily with I think a bit of raw honey as well. Make sure you use unfilted natural cider from a health food store.

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited May 2011
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited May 2011

    Kira, thanks a bunch, did he dilute it with water or drank it straight up, yewww?

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited May 2011

    Luan:  lol, I cannot imagine drinking it straight up!

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited May 2011

    Luan, I am not sure if there is any steadfast rule. I never measure anything, including when I cook. I have no patience for measuring spoons. I have cooked for so long, I just eyeball it. I just pour some baking soda into the glass, maybe a tsp or so, add a quick shot of Bragg's cider vinegar and some water.  It will fizz, so I stir til the fizzing stops. The whole thing ends up about a quarter cup. I drink it fast, followed by a glass of water. I do it before bedtime, when I can remember.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited May 2011

    MBJ, what we wouldn,t do, hey? LoL



    Thanks Vivre, i was just thinking that i use the vinegar/soda combo to clean the drains..... :(



    Anyhow, i,ll start sloooowly, a bit picky on tastes

  • asschercut
    asschercut Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2011

    Hi ladies,

    Are there any artists in here that are oil painters?

    In my spare time I have always enjoyed oils, graphite and a little pastel - realism being my passion. But since diagnosis, I've been a tad scared of the toxins. Has anyone else put down their brushes since? Or has anyone started using a more natural, less toxic medium?

    Victoria

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2011

    Hi asschercut,

    Thanks for the heads up on Greek Yoghurt...

    I am an oil painter. It does concern me about all the toxins in paints.

    Funny, when I was dx...I began painting up a storm to help me get through my ordeal. Of course, this was before I knew about the toxins in paints which can act as exonoestrogens.

    One line of paints uses only walnut oil as a medium. I think it's James paints....I will look it up for you. I haven't converted yet as I still have a huge supply of my usual paints. Some of our paints here have a warning that the paint has been deemed harmful to ocean wildlife in the state of California. One that has been okayed in Cal...is Diva, I believe. I have tried using the cooking variety of linseed oil that you get in the grocery store. Some fundamentalist painters have gone back to the old way of using egg yolk and mixing it with the pigment.

    A a general practice I wear  gloves and paint next to an open window, unless I am outside. 

    I love painting and don't want to give it up altogether but I have cut down a lot since learning about the dangers. I have done all the mediums and my passion is oil because of the richness that I can achieve. I did pastels in art school...didn't like those because of the dust that can stick to the lungs.

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2011

    Victoria.....

    I forgot to mention, a thread called "let's inspire each other to be creative" may be of interest to you. Perhaps you could share some of your work with us. I put a few of my paintings on that thread.

    Glenis

  • asschercut
    asschercut Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2011

    Thanks for that Painterly! I'm ¾ done on a very intricate ancient historical composition, that's 8ft by 4ft canvas. I don't know that I'll change my paint up for this particular painting...but I'll have to for my next pieces. Gloves...mmm...can't work with them.

    I'll look into the James paint range, and check out the thread...x

    Victoria

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2011

    Victoria...

    Your painting sounds wonderful!!!!!

    I never used to wear gloves....but I have become used to them now!....I do urge you to give them a try. I get extra large (thin) ones, so that I can pull them off quickly.

  • asschercut
    asschercut Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2011

    I think I've lost my artistic mojo. Are you using surgical gloves? I like using my fingertips when I paint...gloves are going to be hard for me because my work is so intricate.

    My mother-in-law can't understand why I don't sell my work. I'm not ambitious when it comes to my paintings...I want to leave them for my children.

    Anyway I'll have to check out your work...x

    Victoria

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2011

    Victoria,

    Yes, surgical, latex free gloves. I agree, for intricate work, they may be a bit awkward. When I use a tiny brush for around the eyes, etc. I remove it and then put it back on,  I always have one on my left hand. (Chemicals are absorbed through the skin - I sort of knew this from art school 25 years ago but I had no idea that these chemicals could be dangerous for bc occurence). For me though, I am still convinced it was the HRT that my kind doctor "highly recommended" to me over 12 years ago.

    You must have a lovely collection of paintings! I have tons of them too, all dotted around my walls, I am too attached to sell them.

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited May 2011

    "let's inspire each other to be creative".  Where would I find this group?  I painted a bit, just watercolors, during chemo and I was a semi-professional musician for many years.  My DH purchased a bunch of art supplies for me but I have been having trouble with my hands because of nerve damage after chemo.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 7,080
    edited May 2011

    I have done "intuitive painting".  Very therapeutic.  I actually did a couple that were good enough to frame and hang.  And I have NO artistic talent whatsoever!

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 166
    edited May 2011

    Impressed with the creative talent we have on this thread!  I don't paint, but I do imagine the paints are something to be careful with in regards to chemical absorption. However, if I painted, I wouldn't let that stand too much in my way..... you need the creative outlet!

    MBJ- sorry to hear about the nerve damage, but hopefully you get to enjoy some form of music now?  

    My outlet was dance, but I've traded in my shoes for a bike. I haven't set foot in a ballet studio in about a year, as it was too painful post-surgery to move my upper back. I am still "not ready" to go back, but also feeling achy and as if it's time to explore some new options.... perhaps not so physical ones. :)

     Cheers to all of you!

    Oh, and wanted to share this post that I accidently posted on another thread:

    To go back to the discussion about vitamins, supplements, et al.... I learned something very useful from my nutritionist at the beginning of our working relationship.  One of my assignments is to have 3 colors of vegetables on EVERY plate (including breakfast.... ahem, very difficult!), as well as one vegetable that is raw. As our immune system has a lot to do with our gut health (or also stated as the gut is our primary immunity), the raw/cooked combination gives us a different mix of useful enzymes, fiber content, nutritional value, etc.  For that reason, he suggested that I rotate my vegetables during the week..... raw carrots today, but tomorrow will be having raw spinach.Ladies, this one change alone has dramatically improved my intestinal health. Now, I do take a fair share of supplements, but our goal is to reduce the number of supplements I have to take over time, and allow my body to heal with natural foods. It has been a year since I started visiting the nutritionist, and I am not at the point where I can give up supplements yet (they are kind of a security blanket for me), I am feeling stronger, better and I think I am making progress.  It's really a lifestyle change, but my family reaps the benefits as well, since I am showing them how to incorporate raw vegetables in conjunction with cooked foods.  So, to keep you posted on my daily colors:Breakfast:  Spinach with scrambled eggs (ok, only one color-- not too good)Snack:  Banana, dried apricots, dried prunes, brazil nuts (2) and a few almondsLunch:  Lentil soup, sweet potato, mixed greens salad with tomatoes and cucumbersSnack: TBD in a few minutes!

    Dinner: Looking for options on allrecipes.com!! 

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 734
    edited May 2011

    I like the idea of 3 differnet colors...easy with a little awareness