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Yes, as dogsaver says, with IV you get a much higher dose (mine is 80g once a week). People have great success using the C as a chemotherapeutic agent. My insurance covers 70% of the drips, which helps a lot because it is very pricey.
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So Dogsaver and Deni, you are both doing Vit C IV drips as a preventative for cancer recurrence? Is this right? do you drip anything else, or just Vit C? If you have any links on this I would like to read. Thank you!
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Yes, that is what I do. They also do put a little magnesium and calcium in the drip. I also get an IV of B17 (laetrile) which has been successful for some people with killing cancer cells. In addition to all of the other supplements, nutrition, etc....
Here are a couple of links...
http://www.doctoryourself.com/riordan1.html
http://www.orthomolecular.org/library/ivccancerpt.shtml
There are lots more available if you google IV vitamin C for cancer.
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i get b vitamins in my IV along with the C and i also get magnesium and traumeel. i do these for prevention of recurrence as well as keeping my immune system up.
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Dogsaver - My ND doesn't want to mix B vitamins into my drip because he doesn't know if they in some way my negate the effects of the C. I had asked him about that as I get headaches sometimes after the drips and my gyno suggested trying some B vitamins in them. I'm interested to know what Bs in particular, do you know?
Spring - Also look at www.foodmatters.tv. This is the site that started it all for me. When I got my dx and I knew I didn't want chemo. I was so lost. I didn't know there were other options out there. Then I stumbled on this site. They have an amazing documentary about how food and nutrition (or lack thereof) cause disease. It is an amazing documentary. Plus, they have a program (you have to purchase it) all about cancer. There are about a dozen modules with different doctors and experts about nutrition and cancer. I knew what path I would take after I found this website and all of its very valuable information. Definitely worth checking out.
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Hey IV ers. I was told that we cannot absorb that much vit C at one time. Can you guys ask your doctors about this?
Deni, that food matters site looked very interesting. Did you order the dvd's and is your DH going this route?
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Hi Viv - The documentary and cancer program can be watched right from your computer. I didn't order dvds. The documentary was a few dollars to watch but we were really glad that we did. It is really what set me in the direction of nutrition as a means to help myself heal from my stage 1 cancer.
As for my DH, we don't know yet if his cancer is contained. It appears that it is but we haven't gotten the results of his PET scan yet (he went on Tuesday). If it is contained, there really is not any other treatment recommended after surgery. He has already changed his lifestyle quite a bit since my dx and is on that road. If it has spread (I don't even want to think about this!) he would consider chemo as systemic treatment.
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The key to high dose vitamin C administration is IV. You do not get the same effect when high dosing with vitamin C orally. IV administration of vitamin C can result in much higher blood levels of vitamin C than oral administration, and levels that are toxic to certain types of cancer cells can be achieved with intravenous but not oral administration of vitamin C.
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I am going to ask my Osteopath about this IV Vit C thing next time I am there. It makes sense to me that you could achieve higher absorption through blood than through digestion, but I'll ask about that too, if i remember!!
Deni, I will check out the foodtv link. I have totally changed the way I eat based on "Anti-Cancer, A New Way of Life" book, and in going to my Osteopath - she has me testing the ph of my urine and targeting a non-acidic diet (which for me is easy as I don't eat much meat or processed foods, and mostly a plant based diet). She recommends Vegan for me with a cancer diagnosis, but I am not sure I can or will ever get totally there.
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Oh Deni, my thoughts and prayers for your DH and the pet scan results. Pls let us know. Will be thinking of you two...
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Did anyone watch the documentary film, Crazy Sexy Cancer last night? I didn't realize that she had an extremely rare cancer; guess I assumed it was bc. No chemo or other initial tx b'cuz her oncologist @ Dana Farber explained that her type of cancer, which was mostly in her liver, was extremely slow-growing and he advised thinking of it as a chess game, and waiting for the cancer to make the first move (begin to grow more aggressively) to do chemo. Anyway, she first went on a macrobiotic diet with no improvement. Then she went on a 21 day juicing fast and then to a raw diet (all started at the Hippocrates Institute in FL, which looked amazing) and got quite noticeable improvement. Excellent film. I hope some of you caught it. And here's a link to her website if you're not familiar with her story: http://www.crazysexycancer.com/ Lots of good info there about eating raw.
I'm off to UCLA to get my bandages off today. YaY! I will also be thinking about you and your DH, Deni, and praying everything is totally contained. Deanna
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We got a call from my husband's doctor this morning and the news is great. No evidence of any spread and it appears that things are contained in the kidney. So, the good news is that the kidney comes out! Odd good news but better than the alternative. We were so relieved. Now we have to get the results of my PET scan. I went this morning. After his diagnosis we wanted to be sure that we know what we are dealing with for both of us. I was so nervous for my kids. But, so far the news is very good. And, all of my bloodwork came back and looks great so there is no reason for us to be concerned about my results but we will feel better when we get the word on the scan. THe next step is to get that sucker out of my husband so that we can get on with our lives. I will keep you guys posted. Thanks so much for your thoughts and prayers. They seem to be working!
Spring - Anticancer was such a great book. And, if you get a chance to watch the foodmatters.tv documentary it is really good also. As I said, it got me heading in the way of nutrition and introduced me to IV C drips. I knew nothing about any of it until I saw that documentary and then went on to the cancer learning program. Really great stuff. I also test my pH often and have noticed that my alkalinity has improved greatly since I started all of this. It is easy for me to stay off of the meat because i haven't eaten it in years. I would have a hard time if I had to give up fish too. I love wild salmon and eat it at least once a week.
Deanna - Crazy Sexy Cancer was great also. I wasn't sure what to expect and thought it would be a really depressing story, but it was just the opposite. Very inspirational. Best of luck with your bandages and hope you are feeling good.
Enjoy your day ladies! It is raining here but the sun is shining on us today!
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Deni! YAY!!!!! I am so happy for you and your family, what a relief to know its contained!! Thanks for keeping us posted!
Spring, there is no way I could go vegan, I have tried and I was so weak, I honestly believe in everything in moderation, well of course not heroin or anything like that LOL!! Also, I think stressing about everything that goes in my mouth, is not good either so......I do the best I can!
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Yay, Deni and Hubby! So glad. Tell me how you guys test your urine PH. Can you buy some sticks for that, or something?
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Thanks Calypso and Fairy - big sigh of relief today for sure!
You can buy dip sticks or a roll of pH paper at Whole Foods or probably any health food store. It is real simple to do. There is a guide on the package that tells you where your pH should be. Ideally, you want to be around 7.2 alkalinity. Mine will test slightly more acidic in the morning than in the evening, which is typical.
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Deni, God is so good. That is wonderful news to say the least. Let us know when he goes under the knife so we can pray for that too!!!!
I did freak out about everything I was doing when first diagnosed but I finally figured out that was stressing me out more than the cancer. Since I have stop my freaking and just doing the best I can with food, exercising, juicing, etc. I have been feeling great!!!
Patty
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Deanna, What channel was Crazy Sexy Cancer on?? PBS or what? I want to look for it - missed it, but may be able to watch on the channel's web site. Let me know!
Deni, YAY YAY YAY YAY!!!! So glad, the news about your DH. We had a friend with Kidney cancer, and same as you mentioned, just surgery, and that was it! (Seems to much easier, honestly, than the breast cancer route!!!) I believe the prognosis is very good, you get rid of it in the kidney, and it's over, aren't they considered "cured"? That's what our friend was told (this was 5 years ago, I hope it is the same story now). Also, with kidney cancer, I was like, there is no guilt there. Nothing like, Oh I should have felt my boobs more often, Oh I didn't do the exams right, Oh when it said I had dense tissue I shoudl have known to ask for an MRI. You don't DO kidney self exams or have screenings. Just so much simpler psychologically, then just surgery. But, I don't mean to minimalize it. Not at all. Cancer just is el stinko, !!! All around!!!
About the Ph strips. I got mine at Amazon.com. My Osteopath told me to aim between 6.5 and 7.5. I am typically 6.5 or 7. GUESS WHAT.. The oddest things at acidic. Lobster is highly acidic!! I knew something was up as I had lobster (I never have lobster, not in years) last Sat and my strip took a nose dive! I was like, WTH??? I only ate fish and veggies. AHA. Very odd what is alkaline and what is acidic!!!
Deni, DH and I are planning on watching that FoodTV thing online for the $4.95. Thanks for the pointer!!
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Spring - yeah, they are pretty much telling him so far that the only treatment is to remove the kidney. We meet with the surgeon next week. It's funny with men too. When I was dx, I wanted lots of opinions. My husband works for a large pharma company and has spoken to some docs there but other than that, no other doctors. He feels comfortable with his surgeon and wants him to do the surgery. Men are so uncomplicated. Less stress, less anguish - just get it done. I wish I was more like that!
Oh great about the video. Please let me know what you think of it.
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My boss told me today that we are all to wear pink tomorrow to "save the ta ta's" I told her to hell with the ta ta's I want LIVES saved.
Patty
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I like your spirit Patty! We should start our own "To Hell with the TaTa's Day!"
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amen Patty!!
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Yep.
This whole early detection thing makes me crazy. There should be no friggin cancer in the ta-tas. Who wants to get cancer, and then detect it??
I think this whole BC awareness month is another way for drug companies and businesses to make money.
I am officially jaded I guess.
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I must be jaded too because I agree with you. I see the whole thing as a marketing tool for the drug companies to rack in more research money. But where does that money go? There is no cure. There will not be a cure - not until we can do more about prevention. I am fully "aware" of breast cancer. Don't need a special month for that!
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I think we are all pretty jaded and frustrated at this point.......I was pissed because the radiologist didn't even see mine on the mammo "all is fine see you in 6 months" shish, thank God my guardian angel tech was in the room and suggested an MRI, obviously something didn't look right to her! Keep in mind, I have had mammos and ultra sounds every 6 months for the past 5 years! I would LOVE to know where all the flippin money is going!! Don't get me started sisters! LOL!!
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What Deni said.
Oh and I can't stand the focus on mammograms. They are arcane and inadequate. 20% of women's cancer is not detected by mammograms.
OK 80% are, BUT......
Did you know that ~75% of cancers found in breasts are already invasive? THIS IS THE ISSUE. It needs to stop!!!!
Early detection via mammogram or any other method of an already invasive cancer IS NOT the answer...
Stopping the invasive cancer in the first place. THIS is where we need to focus. (Perhaps there is no money in this??? ugh).
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Breast Cancer Deception Month - Hiding the Truth beneath a Sea of PinkBy Tony Isaacs
It's Breast Cancer Awareness Month again and from shore to shore the country is awash in a sea of pink - from pink ribbons and donation boxes to pink products, charity promotions, celebrities by the score and even pink cleats on NFL players. Tragically, most people are unaware of the dark history of Breast Cancer Awareness Month (BCAM) and the players past and present who have misused it to direct people and funds away from finding a true cure while covering up their own roles in causing and profiting from cancer.
The Founding of Breast Cancer Awareness Month
Most people are unaware that the BCAM idea was conceived and paid for by the British chemical company Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI), a company that both profited from the ever-growing cancer epidemic and contributed to its causes. The American subsidiary of Imperial Chemical Industries, ICI/Astra-Zeneca manufactures tamoxifen, the world's top-selling cancer drug used for breast cancer. ICI itself is in the business of manufacturing and selling synthetic chemicals and is one of the world's largest producers and users of chlorine.
Although BCAM was co-founded along with two non-profit organizations and some big name companies were quick to associate with BCAM, for the first several years, BCAM's bills were paid by ICI's Zeneca Pharmaceuticals.
As the controlling sponsor of Breast Cancer Awareness Month (BCAM), Zeneca was able to approve-or veto-any promotional or informational materials, posters, advertisements, etc. that BCAM uses. The focus is strictly limited to information regarding early detection and treatment, avoiding the topic of prevention and the role toxins may play. A further look at the major players in breast cancer awareness may give plenty of insight as to why a growing number of critics are asking why such is the case.
Take Zeneca for example, which later merged into Astra-Zeneca and in 2008, ICI/Astra-Zeneca changed its name to AzkoNobel and reported annual sales of over 22 Billion Dollars. ICI has long been among the world's largest manufacturers of pesticides, plastics, and pharmaceuticals. Its Perry, Ohio, chemical plant was once identified as the third-largest source of potential cancer-causing pollution in the United States, releasing 53,000 pounds of recognized carcinogens into the air in 1996.
After Zeneca acquired the Salick chain of cancer treatment centers in 1997 and then merged with the Swedish pharmaceutical company Astra to form AstraZeneca, creating the world's third-largest drug concern, Dr. Samuel Epstein, a professor of occupational and environmental medicine at the University of Illinois School of Public Health stated, "This is a conflict of interest unparalleled in the history of American medicine."
"You've got a company that's a spinoff of one of the world's biggest manufacturers of carcinogenic chemicals, they've got control of breast cancer treatment, they've got control of the chemoprevention [studies], and now they have control of cancer treatment in eleven centers-which are clearly going to be prescribing the drugs they manufacture."
The breakdown of $14 Billion in profits for ICI in 1997 was 49 percent from pesticides and other industrial chemicals, another 49 percent from pharmaceutical sales, and the remaining 2 percent from health care services including 11 cancer treatment centers. Zeneca's herbicide acetochlor, which is classified by the EPA as a "probable human carcinogen", and which AstraZeneca sold until a corporate reorganization in 2000, accounted for around $300 million in sales in 1997. Their product tamoxifen citrate (Nolvadex) accounted for $500 million in 1997 sales. Cancer prevention would clearly conflict with Zeneca's business plan.
Quickly jumping onboard the tamoxifen bandwagon was the National Cancer Institute, which announced in April 1998 that breast cancer could be ‘prevented' by treating women continuously with a powerful drug called tamoxifen. The New York Times editorialized on April 8th that treating women with tamoxifen is a ‘breast cancer breakthrough.' However, The Times acknowledged that treating 1,000 women with tamoxifen for five years would prevent 17 breast cancers but would cause an additional 12 cases of endometrial cancer and 20 cases of serious blood clots in the same 1,000 women.
As recent studies have shown, the risks implied in those less-than breakthrough figures were vastly understated. Last month, Natural News reported a study just published in Cancer Research which concluded that long-term use of tamoxifen increases the risk of getting aggressive cancer in the other breast by 440 percent.
See:
http://www.naturalnews.com/027123_cancer_Tamoxifen_brst_cancer.html
Other large corporations which contribute to breast cancer awareness also have a vested interest in breast cancer. General Electric sells upwards of $100 million annually in mammography machines. General Electric has also been a major polluter of carcinogenic PCBs in the Hudson River. An estimated million pounds of PCBs lie buried at the bottom of a 40-mile stretch of the Hudson, where GE dumped PCB oil until the mid-1970s, contaminating the entire 200-mile length of the river below Hudson Falls
DuPont, another huge chemical company and major polluter, supplies much of the film used in mammography machines. Both DuPont and GE aggressively promote mammography screening of women in their 40s, despite the risk of its contributing to breast cancer in that age group. And while biotech giant Monsanto sponsors Breast Cancer Awareness Month's high profile event, the Race for the Cure, it continues to profit from the production of many known carcinogens.
Another large player is Bristol-Myers Squibb (BMS), with their Tour of Hope and promotions such as 10 cent donations for drug store sales of selected BMS products. BMS is also the manufacturer of Taxol (under the trade name of Paclitaxel), considered to be "the gold standard" of chemo drugs. As Natural News reported earlier this month, the so-called "gold standard" has more than lost its luster, as was presented at 27th Annual San Antonio Breast Cancer Symposium:
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If we could managed to convince other gals out there to balance their hormones early on, it might help.....99.9% of women who I talk to about this just look at me, have no idea what I am talking about! I wish I would have known sooner..........
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anom.....ugh........
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Ugh, is right. I'm so disgusted with this pink ribbon promotion.
If women had any real awareness of iodine and progesterone deficiency being caused by bromides/pesticides we are exposed to they would get their hormones balanced in their 20s and 30s. I think the younger ones behind us will have more years of exposure.
Fairy, the link you sent said progestin bc pills suppress progesterone and cause breast cancer up the road. http://hormonerestoration.com/ I took a nasty progestin birth control in my 20s.
Thanks, Spring for pointing us to that great Powerpoint presentation on the site. http://hormonerestoration.com/powerpoint.html
xo anom
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Anom, thanks for using your photo to demonstrate what a farce BCAM really is! You look so young - those hormones do you nothing but good!
Seriously, that article just drives it all home. What a farce!
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