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Michelle, Pat, Theresa, Hood - you are, of course, exactly right. Thanks for those good reminders.
THeresa - esp. like the Moses reference. Canada geese do something like that. When they get into a "V" to migrate, each bird takes a turn in the lead. All the rest of the birds honk in encouragement. You all encourage me to keep going:) And I will 'honk' at the rest of you!! :)
God bless our little group.
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Geewhiz - that's cute ... I taught my kids the same thing and my daughter (25) told me that awhile back she and her brother (24) were together and an ambulance passed and they both did the sign of the cross for the person inside! Early lessons stay with them! :-)
Pat - me too ... I can't come up with wonderful prayers, can't quote Scripture without Googling it, know my favorite Saints but there are thousands out there, was never taught (CCD drop out). God wants to hear our heart prayer. I'm glad you, Betty and everyone are here. This is an oasis for me! Thank you Laura.
Janet - I remember that about Canadian geese.. I guess I didn't know about the honking for encouragement, but it makes sense and I love it!
Hi Joyce - please share about Saint Andre if you can.
Good News - my stress test came back normal!! One less thing to worry about.
Grandsons are with their father tonight, so DD wants us to watch Jane Eyre and have tea, so I'm off to get some culture! :-)
God bless you all.
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Wow, so many great posts today!
I have to say I bellowed when I saw lovemyfamilysomuch's post: Exercising!
And Pat,
I really am beyond moved at your Namaste letter today. My God, how special, and perfect. I know Sheila will be tickled beyond all measure. I see if as a clear message to you and the group (do you mind if we share in it?)
Michelle,
What a day...from my count there were at least ten women praying directly with you, and perhaps more online. So that means the intentions were multiplied tenfold in strength, by my count anyway.
Such lovely posts...some funny, some serious, all uplifting. Torigirl also receiving a message today with great meaning.
wonderful.
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thanks for all the new members Lord
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Namaste!
I honor the place in you where the whole universe resides. I honor the place in you where, if you are there in you, and I am there in me, we are one. I sure do like it too Pat
I am so glad that I am finally coming to a place of peace within myself of knowing God is not a vengeful God, nor is He/She any less than loving, non-judgemental, and believes in each and every one of us, no matter the path we take to Him.
Betty and All,
I have struggled for years with many of the same issues you speak of Betty. Yes, it is easier to pray for others, but as Michelle so rightly says, God wants us to pray to him about all of our concerns. Why would God only want to know bits and parts of us? Indeed, I do feel that God knows us inside and out, but imagine sitting and talking to Jesus about everyone else, except how our day was. I bet he would delight in hearing a few of our stories as well, just as you would his. We should support each other to learn how to ask for ourselves too.
I just understand so much better, for whatever reason...o.k. I am listening better So I would like to toss out something, and again, remember I have a different spiritual upbringing than many here, and well, this has nothing to do with how I was brought up either...
But I want to toss out another way of thinking about my life, without being too controversial as I respect everyone's hearts and Religion here. Something that I have felt since I was a young girl, is that I came here to learn, and that I have been a co-author with God on the course of my life here. That I wanted to expand my spiritual muscles, and therefore chose certain paths, that although difficult, would allow me to grow as a person and as a soul. That my journey, including those of my family, has been about helping each other realize our spiritual lessons. So our lives are a collaboration with God, Jesus and a host of others who assist us in reaching higher spiritual knowledge in facing certain trials, and living our lives.
This is why I love people's passions for how they grow spiritually, and believe there are many roads to God. First and foremost would be to not denigrate another's path, nor make assumptions. It makes me happy to be here, because as different as we may be in Religious language, we all are trying, everyday to become.
I have come a long way in this, and used to pick apart Religion, point to certain societal issues that I didn't support, and then use that as a platform for all things wrong with x,y and z Religion. Now, when I see others doing that, I see I am not her anymore. I am becoming more accepting of myself in the process, and more content with my Spirit. I see a bigger picture.
So thank you ladies for showing me your hearts and true non-judgemental spirits. It is incredibly uplifting to change a negative belief system, trust me. I learn now that I had more judgement than I had tolerance, and I thought it was the reverse.
God Bless you All, and thanks for listening.
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Hi Sheila
Thank you for sharing! I agree completely about "the big picture", I choose Catholocism for it's beauty in tradition and community, and reverence. My Husband and I were raised Catholic and are raising our children the same. However I think there are many paths there and certainly have incorporated some other things into my spiritual practices. I have much respect for Budhism and absolutely love the practice of Mantra and Meditation, that is my path to God, it quiets my mind and allows me to pray more diligently and more importantly listen to God's word. Meditation does not have to be budhist in nature it can be as simple as saying Hail Mary's over and over until the mind is quitted and we are not distracted.
I think we as a society get caught up in a lot of "rules" and forget the "big picture" which in my mind is being a good, caring, kind person that is living life with as much love as possible. I am constantly striving to get to that and it is an endless road.
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JV What a good comparison of the birds supporting each other. What happens is when the lead bird becomes weak from breaking the wind space another moves forward , then another takes over. They follow each other on the wind. X name is a name for it. It's done in bycyling, car races ets. Learned from the birds. It has to do do with wind. If I had a guy in the house they would come up with the word. I used to remember it, but brain injury da da da . Guess I should have put an intention in for that, DUH. Memory improvement. Odd in the game of trivial persuit I never lost. Could come up with the darndest answers. I would even be awoken from sleep if it meant a win. Now, I'm happy with less which is horrrible. To have a mind that was a sponge. That now is a block.
Theresa, So happy to read all your posts, the reconciliation of father and son, with a planned meeting . So smart to lay off for a few days--That's maturity.
Pat Pagowens- don't worry about thinking of an original prayer ---say what is in your heart, it will bless all and our Quiet friends. I drew you in because I talked from the heart. I reread those words and I'm amazed. They were guided, because of your need. I find each here when one of us preceives someone hurting they come to the best that they can offer. I made you a believer in --Namaste-- Karla made me a believer in Namaste---Squid was there, when Karla made me a beleiver. Please SQUID attest to that.
TO ALL---did something irregular at last three sunday Masses. During the handshake of peace. I introduced myself to each person. Asked their name. At Mass this Sat. The genetleman next to me said after Mass" We have been all over the Usa and Canada, you are the first person who has ever introduced themselves--I feel it is important for you to know that and Thank you" I said okay I am newly rejoined the church and even as a young one before departure, it always amazed how Catholics do not know one another. I then went on to describe Namaste. I then told the pastor, you could see the wheels aturning in his eyes. I see a homily coming.
We have had an opportunity since John the 23rd. I believe it is was what he meant to be --we meet and know each other , not just shake a hand and look away. A community can't be made by a handshake. We have to look into each other eyes and say "Hi I'm Sheila and your name is?" That is how we become connected. How we begin to care. Think of the first look into a newborns eyes. You always want to be there. So, this is a Pass It Forward call. Try it with someone in your church you don't know, and see what happens. Then make an effort the next week to say hi Janet and Ted , even if it's Judy and Ted. It gives you a reason to laugh stop and talk for a few moments. Moments turn into time. Stories to be told. In time, we become connected, as we were when we were little and familes grew up in the same neighborhoods and evreryone new your name. All of us come for divergent places, we could make this happen really fast, Particularly if our quiet friends buy in to it. Then there will be this swell of happening. People getting to know eack other vs running to their cars. It will happen all over the extended space of BCO which is the World. I went to dinner with one of my new friends, meet this way, after Mass on Sat. Wouldn't of happened if I didn't make that initial introduction. My hope is we become close friends the signals are there. But couldn't have happened without the 'Hi I'm sheila and your name is?
To all -----We near at the completion of the Novena to Mary of Guadalupe. It has brought us closer to those here and to the quiet ones. Lets us pray. Lets us pray for strength-amen, lets us pray for health- amen, lets us pray for our love of each other here and viewing. Let us continue to believe in His mercy. Mother Mary continue to intercede on our requests, we are not resposnible for those things that we have not rought upon ourselves. -Please let those things pass.
If it be genetic-- Mother mary why allow the children to suffer. You and your Son have the ability to make this stop. Rather than let it geneiticaly pass please , let it stop . Too many lives our being lost. Too many lives our to saddened. Too many are being gripped by all that is negative----
Dear Lady Mother of us all ===let this terrible plague by pass us. We are mothers. We beget. We nuture. If it is genetic . Each child brought into this world is condemnded. How does that meet our belief in God's goodness. How is it different than Aushwitch.(sic) Dear GOD and Dear Mother whatever the avenue of how you wish things to occur---place no barrier in there progress. Enlightenment, however that may be, that we need to go forward to seek new knowledge. If we can prevent it, don't we not have a responsibility.
Dear friends all ===please try to decifer last paragragh----scares me I'm not going to try Sheila
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Wel I am not going to decipher last paragraph. someoneles will. Sheila
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well my my if my own writing scares me . What can i say about the reader or the analsyer, once i'm gone. SAS
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My son goes to a Cathloic School run by the Brothers of the Holy Cross and newly Sainted Brother Andre is one they always ask for him to pray for them. I cut & pasted the info below.
Brother André Bessette, C.S.C, a doorkeeper whose ministry to the sick led him to be called the "Miracle Man of Montreal" will become the first saint of the Congregation of Holy Cross when Pope Benedict XVI canonizes him in St. Peter's Square on Sunday, Oct. 17.
Born Alfred Bessette to Isaac and Clothilde Bessette on Aug. 9, 1845, in Montreal, Brother André entered Holy Cross in 1870.
He worked as a porter at a Montreal school run by the Congregation and soon began to earn a reputation as a healer and miracle worker. Bessette's biographers recount tales of crippled rheumatics healed and fever-stricken schoolboys made suddenly well, often aided by "Saint Joseph's oil," which Bessette rubbed on wounds and sick limbs after burning it before a statue of the patron saint of his religious order.
Compassion for the suffering and devotion to Saint Joseph led Brother André to a life comforting those in greatest need.
Pope John Paul II said of him, "We venerate in Blessed Brother André Bessette a man of prayer and a friend of the poor, a truly astonishing man"¦. In each age the Holy Spirit raises up such humble witnesses of the Gospel, who turn things topsy-turvy."
More than 70 years after Brother André's death in 1937, millions of pilgrims travel each year to Saint Joseph's Oratory, which he founded in Montreal in 1904. Brother André was declared Venerable by the Catholic Church in 1978 (the first of three steps toward sainthood), and Blessed in 1982 (the second step).
"We are honored and moved beyond words at Brother André's formal recognition as a saint," said Rev. David Tyson, C.S.C., Provincial Superior of the Indiana Province of Holy Cross on learning that Bessette would be canonized. "Not only because this immensely humble man is the Congregation's first recognized saint, but because he is such an extraordinary example for every Catholic of every age. Not for him the trappings of power and status, of money and prestige; he was famous first as a ferociously hard worker at the high school where he served his whole life; he simply did everything and anything that was needed, from cleaning the floors to fixing shoes, from doing students' laundry to cutting hair. What an example of prayer in action, of active service to others as the most eloquent and powerful prayer of all! And that is the essence of the Congregation - we serve the Christ in every being, with our hands and hearts and souls, with all our might."
A delegation of Holy Cross brothers, sisters, priests, and supporters from around the world will make the pilgrimage to Rome for the canonization. Praying in joyful thanksgiving for the holy example of Brother André's life and asking him to intercede for them, these pilgrims will reflect on this saint raised up in their midst and attend events associated with the canonization.
"The canonization celebration is a signal of the vitality of the Indiana Province of Holy Cross," said Rev. Edwin H. Obermiller, C.S.C., Assistant Provincial. "The Indiana Province of Holy Cross is currently working with more than 600 men a year who are considering a vocation. And there are 50 men in the United States currently studying to become Holy Cross priests. They and their brothers in Holy Cross will continue the work of our founder, Blessed Basil Moreau, C.S.C., in the spirit of Brother André."
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Sheila.. i love the idea of introducing one's self at the sign of peace.
maybe it will spread like wildfire. that seems such a wonderful idea. perhaps you are healing from your loss.
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Good evening sisters,
I've been reading all your posts. I love how you all shared
I have to lay low tonight, cram my test I will be at the exam place and they will start right at 5pm PST (8pm EST). Please support me in thought and prayer that I will pass this. Thank you all so much. I will pop in when I take a break tonight. And hopefully I will pop in again tomorrow morning.
Love and hugs to all!
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Sheila,
I am often tickled by your sense of humor (last paragraph aside, as it wasn't meant to be funny.) I attest Sheila, I attest! Karla was the one who taught you about Namaste, and you loved it ever since then. So, for your last paragraph, I do hear you pleading for an end to cancer, which is like the plague to you in terms of how far reaching and devastating it is.
The Goodness of God still exists, and I have no doubt to his devastation at watching any of his children perform atrocities. God watched his only Son suffer, and I believe he suffered right along with him. Trust that God does not shy away from our trials or our pain, and this life is but a temporary one. I do think it will make sense at what I hope is later than sooner, and it's because we are trying to use our earthbound brains to decipher past the thinness.
I think your brain is plenty sharp BTW
Namaste!
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Paula!
You are awesome! Have faith, take nice deep breaths when you start so you are fully present. Prayers for passing you test, and for a stress free day tomorrow. PS: how is the lump under your arm?
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Hood,
Thank you for posting about newly Sainted Brother Andre. I have a special place in my heart for healers. His humility makes his truly special in my eyes.
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Traci ~ had my 5th rads tx today. No doctor to see me. I told one of the tech and her answer was as lame as can be. She said "I haven't heard of people having an issue with under their arm". WHAT ?
I asked them if they'd heard of patients being allergic to Aquafor, they said "No". I tried it twice and the skin became pink. I stopped it. I can use Miaderm. She then told me to use Vitamin E, and my rad onc told me "No" before. They are so conflicting but I will definitely listen to the doctor.
I know the underarm that had lymph node surgery can be very sensitive, but can an innocent bump create such havoc? The way it was bumped, was when gave each other a hug, my arm was going up toward his shoulder but the L arm is slower. His R arm is also trying to hold me and the forearm bumped my armpit by accident. It wasn't hard but it didn't need to and it gave me a good jolt of pain. It's been funny ever since. And today it felt more swollen than yesterday. The same feeling after the SNB surgery :-(
Thanks for asking though, and thanks for your prayers.
God Bless!
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Squid - I'm serious- about which I can't remember. For one thing, I'm tired of trying to make capitals. For a non typer they are a pain up The arse. But my son says " mom". I try. I love Apple because she says I'm so articulate. Well the humbleness taught by the keyboard, is another world. I definitely , talk differently than the key board allows. It does slow me down in thought so perhaps that is good.
What a glorious day, so many thoughts, so many stories. I thought the Quadalupe Novena was over. Do we have another day?
I called my 2nd oldest brother, we had the Traveling Lady Of Fatima in our house when I was child. Again, small child. She was placed on top of the Tv---BIG BOX then, and knellers were brought from the church and adults coming and going and talking and being serious. It was a big deal--as a small one I knew that. Mom said it was a privelege to be chosen to have her in our house. The prayers went on for a week. With people coming and going. Again all those things scared me. If someone had explained what was going on, I may have dealt with it better.
Squid bless you and your stories ---They hearten the soul. Your support of others when we forget to mention them and near as I can see , you forget no one. Bless your being to recognise and hear for us all. I'm happy that it has brought out your spiritual side, it has done the same for me. Oddly enough we being both nurses, makes me wonder. Does the spirtual part of a nurse influence action?
Laura--so sorry you are having LE problems, Sister Sue in same boat , we should talk by pm.
Apple If I can help with lls application , please don't hesitate to PM
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Sas - I'll check back with him..
I write often in microsoft word. i use no capitals. the program capitalizes for you at the beginning of sentence. if you are writing something long just write it in WORD then paste it in the reply box. i don't care about capitals.. too unweildy.
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Just catching up this morning.
Paula - hope you pass w/flying colors!
Sheila - it takes one to know one Sort of understood your last paragraph!!! :) The other day I opened my refrig door and there was a box of cereal! And I'm forgetting the dumbest things. I was talking with my daughter about Xrays and couldn't remember the word - kept saying Xerox!! I can't blame AI because haven't started them. Must be leftover anesthesia or something 3 weeks out.
Hood - interesting to read about his life. Several saints were canonized last weekend also. I wonder if October is the traditional month for this?
Traci - yes - you ALWAYS remember each person. Such a kind heart.
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except when I got Michelle's and Laura's lives mixed up a few days ago I think of them both as the authors/creators of this thread, so maybe that's why?
In my job, I am tasked to remember hundreds of people and their individual stories, and so I am constantly visiting people in my head and wondering where they are in their treatments and lives. That part is still hopefully going strong, but I absolutely do have word finding difficulty when I am trying to go "off the cuff." Off the cuff for me is using adjectives to describe something..I'll sit there, looking up at the sky, like the word is going to be revealed to me.
Does anyone else have this issue? I think I would best describe it as anything new as far as going "off script" can get me to stammer, and old ways of thinking or working seem (I hope) to be holding steady.
Thank you all for your sweet words. I'm smiling one of those shy smiles.
Apple, capitals are too unwieldy, hee!
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oh, and Paula...best of luck to you today! I honestly don't have an answer for the swollen area under your arm, not sure if Sheila has any thoughts. When do you have an opportunity to see the MD, and can you request today?
Sheila,
Oh, being a Nurse and the spiritual side. We have joined many people in their journeys haven't we? So many gifts about life and what's important, spoken in testimony. I'll toss out something interesting... I remember a Nurse being offended when our manager suggested she needed to adopt a more spiritual side when working on the Oncology ward. It was out of line in the strictest sense of what is appropriate to discuss in the workplace. We have to respect where each person comes from, and her heart in the right place for sure, and she was a good Nurse and cared for her patients dearly. For me, my career has been deeply spiritual at times, and always in the back of my mind, especially when I was giving direct care. I was talking to an Oncologist one day, who was one of my favorites. He used to say, to what end? when it came to helping families and patients make decisions regarding end of treatment. I asked him one day in a roundabout way what he believed in, and he told me he was atheist. I have to say, I had to scoop my jaw up a bit (never assume, eh?) His intentions were always good, his demeanor was always gentle...opened my eyes up a bit for the world in general. He always supported each person's individual beliefs as well. But for me, I have to say, the two have gone hand in hand. I still send messages to those patients that have passed that I have known for awhile, still cry if they do, and my spirit only grows stronger from having cancer. I try to make is part of my Nursing, as so many of my patients are quite Religious. I let them lead me down their path, and just support wherever they are.
(sorry for the ramble, probably not the first time....I live alone, so my dog is tired of hearing all of my ideas
Blessings for All for a wonderful day...
and Apple, how are you doing, and how is your brother?
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my bro, for now is somewhat asymptomatic.. He is stage III lymphoma and leukemia.. I realize his prognosis is challenging .. i don't know if he knows. he thinks he will start chemo in several months. Apparently they are waiting till he gets more 'large' cells. I don't know enough about his disease to explain it. I'll call him this morning. He is scrambling to improve his financial situations.. he had a few rough years when his wife left him and his children. He insisted on continuing their expensive Catholic education. He hasn't had to declare bankruptcy or anything that dire.. I know things have been rough.. so he's working working working while he can.
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Apple,
what a difficult situation. I am pretty much ruined financially, at least that's what it feels like...from medical stuff years ago. I wish I had good social workers back then like I do now. Do you think he would be open to applying for disability now, to have the paperwork up and running? My long term disability had me do that, and although I don't think I will be approved now, if I have mets, then it will be automatic. I don't mean to sound discouraging in any way....it just may be that he can get some help. Do you think his Church can be of some help as well? He is in my prayers, and please let us know if you would like us all to come together to pray for him? I'm not sure if there are any specific prayer "sequences" or Rosary? We are here for you.
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Good morning:
Just got a call from oncologist office. They got onco test back and want to see me at ll:30 today. This is not a good sign as far as I'm concerned.
Please pray for a good outcome on my visit this morning.
Jan
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Good Morning Sisters..
Day 4 after treatment begins and I am feeling pretty well..it may be that I am still on the high from yesterdays blessed events, but nonetheless it is starting out to be good day. I only hope and pray that it continues.
You all share such personal, wonderful stories...I am a bit of an 'eeyore' when it comes to things of this nature just because I feel my story doesn't merit telling...I find that although I have been a Catholic all my life, I have struggled and continue to fight the meaning of what it all means to me, especially now. I know that I am a work in progress and I hope to be able to share with you all a little part of my life as time goes by...I hope you are patient with me and understand...
Until then, please know that I offer you all and your prayers up God to as I say my rosary everyday, that you are blessed, comforted and touched by the Hand of God...
Peace, love, and prayers,
Tori
DE COLORES!
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Jan - yes - big prayer for good news. I wouldn't worry about saying to come in. I have found at least in my experience they won't let anyone tell you anything until doc sees you. So doesn't automatically mean bad news. WIth all this HIPPA (sp?) and avoidance of lawsuits, I find it VERY annoying.
I hope everyone finds peace today knowing God is near. God bless.
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Good morning sisters,
One last post before I hit the books "again"!!!
Janet, Traci ~ thank you for the uplifting thought, yes - must pass with flying colors.
Sheila, Janet , Traci ~ yes I find myself in "psycho babble" mode often. Even my kids will say "huh, what are you talking about". I think it has to do with all the stuffs that they injected into me since July 2010. I think I should glow in the dark this Halloween
Jan ~ praying for a good result today (right around now, its' 11:40am EST).
Tori ~ Take your time, we will patiently await for you to share when you are ready. I think many of us who's cradle Catholics feel the same way when we are challenged to keep our faith or what it means. We are all "work in progress", but WE will get there
Apple and others~ here's a prayer :
Prayer in Time of Financial Difficulties
God of Mercy and compassion, you promise to give us all that we need.
As we face this time of financial struggle, help us to trust in your providence and keep our hearts fixed on the treasures of heaven. We ask this throught Christ our Lord. Amen.
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Back to the books. I will knoe "Pass/Fail" by the time I leave the center. I will let you sisters know tonight. Exam starts at 5pm PST (8pm EST). Yikes.
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Great news! NO CHEMO!!!! Just tamoxifen. Onco score 19 and mammaprint 'low risk'
Now I can breathe again.
Thank you all for your prayers!!
Jan508
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Sheila - that was quite a prayer/stream of conscious. As someone who watched many of my loved ones die of cancer and now as a victim myself, I intimately feel the pain you're expressing. I remember my strong, healthy brother waste away to a skeleton. Heartbreaking. I remember my cousin screaming "God why did you DO this!" I remember we had to sit watch over him at night b/c he was delirious and a wanderer ... we didn't want him walking out the door. I had watch one night and followed him into my Mom's TV room (he had hospice at my Mom's house). We sat down in the quiet darkness on the sofa. Then he turned to me and gave me a hug. I just wanted to cry. Still do. (You have to know that we are not a huggy family. We're kind of "True Grit".) But through all the deaths, I felt kind of "guilty" that I didn't have the anger over them all. Death has been a part of my life from age 3 when my Dad died of cancer. I don't know if you want to call it Grace or Acceptance or what. And when it's my turn to go, I hope I'm still philosophical about it!! But I view life as like a dress rehearsal for the next life. Death here is not a bad thing. Death is nothing more than a rebirth to something far more beautiful. Think of the birth of a baby. All that baby knew was the womb. Warm and comfy. Then he/she had to die to that life and suffer through the birth channel, through contractions to be brought to the light of earthly life. Now we're getting ready for that fnal birth. Why we have to suffer so much is still a mystery to me, like Traci said, hopefully we'll find meaning either here or in the next life. Had I not gotten cancer, I would not have met all you beautiful women. You have helped me firm my faith. That is a GIFT. Suffering makes us more compassionate and tolerant. Our human condition wants comfort and ease and it's our nature that when we get too comfortable that we become self-centered ... look at our society to see it! I don't like suffering any more than the next person and hate to see someone else suffer, especially the innocent. CANNOT watch news stories about abused children or animals. We do live in a "Valley of Tears". We're being tumbled into diamonds for heaven ... sparkling stars.
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Paula : Good luck and prayers for you.
Jan: Praise be to God!
Tori: You'll know when the time is right.
I'm a chemo brained person too. I was just having this conversation with my husband this morning on the way to work. It's kind of scary. Words just escape me - verbally. I do so much better typing my thoughts. I'll be trying to explain or describe something and the word will be gone... like empty space in the barn. I was someone air-headed before cancer, but now it's more profound. It's hard to concentrate at work. I have an Rx for Effexor but haven't started taking it. I just hate to be on more drugs. Has anyone else had experience taking an anti-depressant and it helping with chemo brain? And names? Forgetaboutit. Traci gets the gold star. I have to write down all your names and code names to keep you straight!!! :-)
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