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  • theresap60
    theresap60 Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011

    Frank - you're a stitch!! :-)  Enjoy your holiday!!!

    Michelle - I am SOOOO sorry to hear of your marriage troubles.  I'm glad you added it to our prayer list.  Have you two talked to a priest?  Skip is in a men's group called St. Joseph Covenant and there are books that go along with it.  He read some of it to me on our commute and it really touches deeply on men's role in the family, especially toward wife and children.  I can find out where Skip got the book if you want.  Do you think your husband will read it?

    Anne - my SFO instructors suggested to me (for my problems with my work nemesis) to either sprinkle holy water in her cubicle and/or tape a Scapular (the square) under her chair.  They say it works every time to either tame the angry person or the person suddenly leaves.  I haven't done it yet b/c we work in such an open environment here, but am seriously thinking about it!! :-)

    Here is the summer reading link that I promised:

    Catholic Sisters and the American Civil War

    http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Catholic-Sisters-and-the-American-Civil-War-Pat-McNamara-05-31-2011.html?sms_ss=email&at_xt=4de667ac7a550c1c%2C0

  • Unknown
    edited June 2011

    Frank. Have a great holiday. Enjoy the break. Sorry about the shirts sounds like you have some blood pumping viens



    Anne. I wish I could offer you words of wisdom for the bully. As a manager your best bet is to call her on it each time you see the action. My experience is that some of the bullies have been doing this their whole lives and are immune to their behavior, so sometimes letting them know it is offensive can help them restrain themselves You need especially to "protect" your staff from her. I would take your boss up on her support and also enlist the help of HR if you have that type of support. Sounds like you may have to build a case if you intend to fire her HR can really help you here. Document every time you have a conversation about bullying with her it will help show a pattern of behavior. Sending prayers of strength for you



    Michelle. So sorry you are struggling. Sending prayers of love and support for you and the children. Marriage is hard at times and we can lose our way. Praying that Jesus pulls you both together stronger than ever



    To everyone else good day. It is a beautiful morning here in Ocean City NJ (youngest son is off from school so we came down to the shore early) and I am enjoying the peace and absolutely stunning

    day





  • mmm5
    mmm5 Member Posts: 797
    edited June 2011

    Dear Ladies and Gent

    Thanks for the prayers, such a difficult time. We come through the other end of treatment and put some years between us and the nightmare of cancer and expect we will be able to keep a new lease on life and that the little things wont matter as much. For the most part this is true....then life gets in the way My Husband has been struggling since the cancer dx. When I was diagnosed 3 years ago he started off really handling it well and being there for me. 1 month after my dx and the night before my first chemo, our 7 year old was rushed to the hospital and dxed with juvenile diabetes. He was in the hospital for a week and my husband had to be there with him as I was in chemo and couldn't be with the germs and we had 2 other young sons at home. He was so helpful but he really shut down after that and ended up losing his good job. He has struggled ever since. It has put so much strain on us, he is really trying but cant get it together and now our 14 year old and he are struggling. I cant deal with the pressure and in consistent pattern of men and dealing with stress (not all men) he is shut down and running away from the big issues. I am sad and feel alone. I appreciate you letting me vent here, I have faith that things will get better.

    I miss praying with all of you Janet, Theresa, Betty, Maria,Sheila,  Ellie, Laura, Traci, Paula, and Tori, where all of you and how are things going for you. Did Kay change her name, I am confused I guess I need to log on every day to keep up. Theresa How can I participate in new Novena?

    I welcome all of our new members as well I love that we have such a following ..this thread has been my source of comfort for 3 years.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894
    edited June 2011

    So much happened in so few hours.

    Michelle-------nurses aren't supposed to dx it's against our licensure so i'll surmise-PTSD--get him to a counselor that specializes in PTSD and cancer if you can.  If you can get him to read my thread "Just Diagnosed -Get Prepared" It's in the Just Diagnosed forum----It was Pinned some time ago. (I was tickled). There is section that I talk about counseling and GREG&I . Hopefully, he will be receptive. He has gone through many lifechanging events as you have and the whole family. Print off the whole thread it's short.

    Frank---and what was your platelet count? That kind of bleeding suggests it was low I'll even guess< 20? Or are you on blood thinners? Or did I miss something when you told us of your dx? Have a great vacation--don't get cut.  Duh re: NI  I did take out some of the most strident things--it's gender neutral now.

    Everyone-----it likely could lead to real legal trouble if you sprinkle anything or did a scapula. Think of it this way------To a non believer they could try to make a comparison to a voodoo doll 

    Anne---the bully played her card now you play yours. It sounds like she did this in public---if she did it's even better for you. Go right to your boss & HR explain the situation. Written warning --now.  Don't wait this person is not stable. Trust me, HR will be able to walk you through it. She will not improve with time, If she did it in public as vehemently as you describe my judgement tells me she may have a propensity for violence. Even if it was in private---the troubles the same. Ah hah-she did do it in public--just caught it in your reply to Liz. Don't wait . Of course, its 4pm Fri.

    Theresa---long story on the insomnia--------Aromasin is the "root" cause.  Neulasta---wolves gnawing at your bones--yup---only someone who has ever had it react that way can know what those words mean. Those that have had the drug without pain should be studied as we that reacted so negatively.-----there has to be a reason for the 0 to 180 spectrum of pain. 

    Laura b----Prayers sweetie

    Liz, tink, Janet,Squid, Kay, Apple, Paula, Sandy-----------anyone I missed----- bless us all ---namaste

  • theresap60
    theresap60 Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011

    I am here for prayer.  Anyone else?

  • janet in virginia
    janet in virginia Member Posts: 923
    edited June 2011

    I'm here

  • janet in virginia
    janet in virginia Member Posts: 923
    edited June 2011

    Lord, bless our ministry and hear the prayers of those who gather here in Your name.  We thank You for our many blessings and ask You to respond mercifully to our petitions and intentions.  Amen. 

  • theresap60
    theresap60 Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011
    God, come to my assistance.
    Lord make haste to help me.
    Glory be to the Father,
    and to the Son,
    and the Holy Spirit;
    as it was in the beginning,
    is now and ever shall be,
    world without end.

    Amen.

    O my God, I thank you for having preserved me today
    and for having given me so many blessings and graces.
    I renew my dedication to you and ask your pardon for
    all my sins.
  • janet in virginia
    janet in virginia Member Posts: 923
    edited June 2011

    Amen.

    God bless you Theresa.

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 1,914
    edited June 2011

    Praying hard for your family Michele.  So sorry for all you've gone through and are going through.  It is wonderful that you keep the faith that things will work out.

    I haven't really been here that long, but I miss praying with everyone too.  Is there always a summer hiatus?

    Hope you enjoy your vacation Frank, it sounds wonderful!  Best of luck on your new job Anne.  To everyone else, hope all is doing well and hope to hear from you soon.

    I have a big weekend, it's my daughter's dance recital.  All year long they prepare and practice, and now the big moment.  Hope it goes well, it's tomorrow and Sunday. 

    Praying for everyone, hope to hear from everyone soon. Namaste.

  • theresap60
    theresap60 Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011

    Night Prayer (Compline) sung by the Benedictine monks of Ampleforth Abbey.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVu7m1xswmk

  • theresap60
    theresap60 Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011

    God bless you Janet and Kay!  Where two or more are gathered in His name....

    Pax et bonum!  Good night!

  • janet in virginia
    janet in virginia Member Posts: 923
    edited June 2011

    Kay - best for your daughter's recital!   I still have many of my daughter's costumes - she can't part with them.  It will be fun one day when HER little girl plays dress up in them!

    Michelle - not many words of wisdom except that 14 is the teenage mutant stage - esp. for boys.  So that's probably part of the tension going on - and would be going on regardless of what's happening in the household!   Just keep the channels of communication open w/your son & he'll pull through -- at about 22 :):)   I will say a prayer for your husband.  And again,  other circumstances are probably making things more difficult - many people struggling through this economy, jobs, etc.  Praying for peace in your family.

    Love to all and keeping you in my prayers.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894
    edited June 2011

    I'm here ----------sheila

  • theresap60
    theresap60 Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011

    Hi Sheila!  I'm listening to the monks - night prayer

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894
    edited June 2011

    Thank you Janet and theresa for prayers. I made it just a few minutes to late

    Kay glad your feeling well enough to go to the recitals------

    Janet you are so right about the 14y/o then okay by 22 LOL but lots of seriousness. It's worse than the terrible two's  The first tantrum I saw my son have was when he was 16y/o over buying a car. it was a hoot.

    Anne---you will be great in your new job ----you just have one thorn to deal with. It' never ceases to amaze me how many problems occur @ a late time on Fri afternoon. Remember put SQUIDs words and Janets words on the mirror and read them every morning ----they will allow you to approach each day of entering work with a strong sense of Hope------Theresa wrote something about Hope awhile ago and it was from St Agustine(sic?)---It would also be a good mirror post. She will see this and remember. Your Bosses chose you. That would not have happened if they did not see something special in you. Don't let that prickly thorn dissuade you.  Namaste sheila

  • sagina
    sagina Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011

    Hi everyone, I've been really quiet on the boards lately - checking in on the Rads boards, I'm almost done - two more boosts to go.  I started coughing Monday, relentless dry hacking coughing, I"ve missed two more days of work, am completely radiation fatigued, and have lost my voice - I sing at church - so dislike not having a voice....

    I missed the prayers tonight, I feel like I'm underwater and don't know which way is up, because I'm so tired....time is all mixed up...sleeping in the day etc.  Anyway, am praying for each of you, and since the Basilica of the Little Flower was so powerful when I took our intentions, I think I need to go visit there tomorrow....need to regain some strength.

    Take care everyone, our journeys are not easy, but great rewards will come.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894
    edited June 2011

    Anne, Don't let one person change your future. You could have allot of fun with this job. Just think what you can do. You said the other problem person had already apologized and said she respected you and that you were a good teacher. The key word was teacher. To lead well you must be a good communicator. In order to teach you must be a good communicator. This might well be the characteristic that your bosses saw in you to promote you with out you seeking the position.

    Teaching within a job situation as a boss, allows you to accomplish all those things that you have thought of over the years that would improve your work and that of others. Thus it improves the company.

    It's scary right now because it's new. You weren't seeking the change, but here it is. Part of you is fearful of failure. We all experience that with anything new even if it was something we were seeking.

    Think of it as a garden where all your beautiful flowers blend well, create harmony by there beauty, each flower slightly different than the next. Then in this beautiful garden you have this weed that  disrupts the beauty and has the ability to spread and choke out the life of other flowers. What would you do with the weed?

    This one weed just needs to be handled. If you do the written warning, which puts her on notice that her behavior won't be tolerated. She will either behave and your problem is resolved . Or she will misbehave and you dismiss her. She is removed from the garden. Harmony will return.

    You have the support of everyone around you. Your boss has already stated that you will have time to learn and that she will support you. She has committed to you. She would not have done that if she didn't believe in you. You have Faith in God because you believe in Him. Allow yourself to believe in you. Push your fear aside and let yourself grow.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894
    edited June 2011

    Nope Anne your it, Is it working?  L&H sheila

  • theresap60
    theresap60 Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011

    Sheila is great!  Full of wonderful advice.

    I think the St. Augustine quote was:

    "Hope has two beautiful daughters: their names are anger and courage.
    Anger that things are the way they are. 
    Courage to make them the way they ought to be."

    -- St. Augustine

    But you are very correct in warning about sprinking holy water or using the scapular to bless those who we perceive as needing blessing... even if you think you're not seen.  In today's world, it could be dangerous to do that.  I know I did not, because there is no privacy in our office.  Not to mention, if you work in a place with security cameras.  A Catholic would know that we do not practice voodoo, and they are only sacramentals used for blessing -- a good thing.  What we want from our nemesis' at work is not evil for them, but for them to stop behavior which is damaging to them as well as other coworkers... or to move on.  It's part of praying for those who do us harm.  But like you said, others might not understand, so it's best that we keep our prayers for them private or share in a group such as ours.  My SFO instructors are retired ladies, and when they were in the working world, there wasn't such hostility toward Christians, especially Catholics, the hostility wasn't there as it is today.

    Gina - hello!  I'm sorry you're not feeling well during Rads.  It will soon be over.  All you ladies and gent who are going through treatment, know that it will one day be a memory.  I've been out of surgery, rads and chemo for a little over a year and I'm feeling so much better.  As long as I'm on Tamoxifen, I still have side effects, but I'm talking about the depression, anxiety, fear that comes with the cancer diagnosis and treatment.  It *will* get better.  It goes back to St. Augustine's quote ... YOU have the courage to go through the treatment to make things better!!

    God bless you all and have a wonderful weekend!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894
    edited June 2011

    Theresa-Yes thats the quote---I was going to put it on my mirror the last time and it got by me. I knew you'd remember. Thank you. Remember when you said you had your nemesis too. It seems like wherever I worked there was at least one bully that made everyones life difficult. It was the worst though when the bully was the boss----ohhhh my.

    Gina ditto to Theresa's thoughts.

    Ditto for the weekend---sheila

  • sagina
    sagina Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011
    Thank you Theresa and Sheila...I am alive today and really who can ask for anything more than that. Wink
  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894
    edited June 2011

    Anne thanks for the insomniac prayer.

     Some things are changing, but I have to see if it's a fluke or a real long term change. But did have a whole nights sleep, but back to serious pain meds to counter problems caused by the exercise try to keep muscles from all deteriorating. The aromasin is kicking in in the same pattern as Arimidex and Femara did. Which doesn't bode well.

    Is Anyone doing anything special to counteract AI problems?----Sheila

  • mmm5
    mmm5 Member Posts: 797
    edited June 2011

    Happy Sunday to all! I am so touched by all of your prayers and advice, thank you so much! I will respond to all of you individually via PM. Theresa I would like to join in you novena, how do I post intentions this time?

     Sheila you ask about the AI's I have struggled with those as well and was forced into instant menopause at 42, I swear it has caused me more problems than the year of chemo I had. Insomnia, aches and pains, mood swings. I ended up going off the AI's and doing Zoladex injections which achieves the same result and I will tell you that in January I found Bikri Yoga and has really changed so much. I really believe yoga has been the source of much of my physical and mental recovery in addition to my constant prayer. You don't have to do heavy yoga, pilates and gentle yoga also great.

    Anne just give all of your work issues back to God, just hand them right over for him to handle. The others in your office are his children as well and he will step in and handle their issues, all you have to do is show up and be kind and do your thing which you are obviously good at. All other issues can be handled by the grace of God.

    Kay let us know about your daughters recital, love to hear the details, also how is treatment going are you at the just Herceptin point yet?

     Gina, I am sending a prayer for you today at mass that your body begins to heal, I really KNOW how frustrating and depressing treatment can be. It will be over soon, take good care now. 

  • theresap60
    theresap60 Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011

    Sheila - from what I understand, Tamoxifen has similar side effects as AIs, so when I switch over in a few years, I'll still have the same aches, pains and mood swings.  So I am on a regime of vitamins and minerals, take 1/2 dose of Lexapro (it's one of the antidepresants that we can take with Tamox), and I have to force myself to walk or bike almost everyday.  My mood is much better. The joint/muscle aches are better but not completely gone, but I do notice a difference if I don't walk for a couple of days.  Yoga sounds like a really good idea.  I bet it would definitely help with insomnia.

    Michelle - I'll find our last intention list and cut and paste yours into a PM, then you can edit as desired, then I'll post it back in there.

    Father mentioned in his homily today about Christ being the Engine of a train and we are the cars and how Christ has to be the first to exit from the dark tunnel into the light (the Ascension) and we follow.  Of course, that got my mind thinking about that analogy (and I didn't hear the rest of his homily!!) ... we jump on the track with Him who leads us to heaven, but as cars who cannot get there without the Engine ... along the way we can have problems happen to us, but all along, if we surrender to God's will for us, we will continue to be pulled by the Engine... our wheels could break, other influences could come into our car and make a mess of us if we don't have our guard up... but we're all pulling together as community, keeping up the momentum.  At last, as we go through the darkness of death, we can see the light at the end of the tunnel, who is Christ, the Engine who has been pulling us into God's embracing light, our true Homeland.  And it's funny to think, when a car jumps the track, it doesn't only affect the car, but it affects many other cars as well.  When we leave the presence and will of the Father, it affects not only us, but many others.

    Pax et bonum!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894
    edited June 2011

    Theresa---Love your engine analogy--Suggest adding it to the prayer thread, please, besides being very inspirational. It's very visual and tactile  in the message. I can see everything and feel the train. Hope that makes sense. LOL.

    With the Ai's --Thanks for the suggestions. I'm basically doing the same except it's in the pool. The yoga is something I have to look at and see if it's differing from some off the things I'm doing in the pool. The Arimidex sledgehammar hit about the 5th month. Then Femara was following the same pattern only into the 3rd week. Aromasin started looking like the sledgehammar was starting to come down around the 4th month. It now has fallen. It's not that there weren't symptoms/ problems there berore, but they have really changed progressively.

     With Arimidex, I  finally said --"That's it". I truly can't do this with Aromasin as my Oncotype DX score was 30. I'll keep listening and incorporating. I perfer not to have to take drugs in order to keep moving. I am taking Savella which is a ssnri vs ssri. It is only approved for fibromyalgia in this country, but it used for it's antidepressant effect in Europe. It did improve the Arimidex induced Fibro to an acceptable degree and the antidepressant effect is there.  Thanks sheila

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 1,914
    edited June 2011

    So had another one of those the priest is speaking directly to me times in church today.  Since they found out I had pneumonitis I have been extremely afraid to go back and try chemo again.  Went back last week, but they only gave me herceptin to "challenge" me and see how I would do on it.  They were pretty certain it was the taxol that caused the problems, but I was nervous to try herceptin.  So far, so good.  But next week they are talking about maybe trying taxotere.  I am very scared to try it.  At church the priest was talking about the first reading and the disciples going back to Mount Olive.  He said that there are things we are all trying to avoid and would rather not go back and do, but that the difference with the disciples going back to Mount Olive was that the Father was with them when they went back this time and so was the Son and they will be with us when we have to go back and face things too.  Wow.  I couldn't believe it.  I think it will help me out on Wednesday for sure. 

    I'm so wrapped up in my own situation, I forget other people here are going through lots of tough stuff as well.  So sorry I am so oblivious at times.  I'm going to pray hard for more insight and compassion.  Hope everyone is doing well.

    I'm so glad it was last weekend I was sick and not this weekend.  The dance recital was fantastic!  So much fun.  The cutest dance was this dance this group of six year old girls did to Single Ladies.  They had these light up rings on their finger and they stuck their hands out every time they said you should have put a ring on it.  They had so much attitude and fun with the song, so cute!  All the costumes were beautiful and the all the kids did a great job.  My daughter had a ball and my DH, MIL and two sisters were all there.  Kind of sorry it's all over though. 

    Have a wonderful Sunday everyone.  Prayers for all tongiht.  Namaste.

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 1,914
    edited June 2011

    I think the Ascension Thursday decision is left to the diocese.  It is still a holy day of obligation in Phila.  We had the Ascension reading on Thursday and the regular Sunday gospel today.  It is confusing to me that it can be a holy day of obligation in one diocese and not another.  It seems like it should be the same for everyone.

  • tinkertude
    tinkertude Member Posts: 1,998
    edited June 2011

    Hi ladies

    hAVING BEEN AROUND TOO MUCH THINGS HAVE BEEN BUSY HERE. My son graduated HS today and we have company in town. That seems to have thrown my daughter off a bit dor some reason, so as much as I love company I will be glad when the house is back to normal and she isnt as irritable with all the disruption. Hope  that doesnt sound mean As I really do love company but I need thigs to settle down again

    David Baldacci and Bishop Loverded spoke at grad Today it was wonderful....

    Thinking and praying for all of you miss being here !!

    love to all my sisters!!!

    namaste!

  • sagina
    sagina Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011

    Mmm5~ thank you so much for the prayer today.  I am healing...body and soul...and it is tiring.  I just wrote in my journal this weekend about radiation fatigue and how we have to rest and regain strength and how we can fall into spiritual fatigue that leads to weakness, so I remind myself to wake up in God's love everyday to renew my faith and conquer fatigue.

    Kay1963~pnuemonitis? from chemo? I've been dry hacking coughing since last Monday, am in my last week of rads - nothing seems to help, nyquil, benzonate, peach snapps....lol....can you PM in with your symptoms and what they did for you?  I had taxotere by the way if you need any help.