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  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 804
    edited March 2012

    LJ- we have bought some Pavestones to start a flower bed in front of the house, but haven't gotten any farther. We are both kind of plant ignorant. Any suggestions on plants that look good, but don't need constant trimming and nothing too high as it is right in front of our living room window.

    When we don't know what to do with a space we tend to stick Maiden Grass in it because we like the look, but don't what else to do!

    Suze- hope you are comfortable today. What is the cooking show of choice today?!

    MBJ- Are you gaining any strength from your exercises?

    Bak- where are you? We are concerned!

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 496
    edited March 2012

    So far my plans are to mulch the exisiting plants already out front. I have pink azaleas that should be waking up soon. So I am going to mulch those this weekend.

    Now I have planter boxes I brought for the front porch that hangover, and I don't know of a good flower that would last the whole summer for it. Any suggestions???

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 496
    edited March 2012

    Looks very peaceful Heidi!

    They are wishing for their pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

  • christina1961
    christina1961 Member Posts: 450
    edited March 2012

    Heidi, What a wonderful ride!  It really makes me want to get outside. Unfortunately I have too much work to do today ARGH!!  I love frogs.  When I was young, I remember my father playing records of frog calls. He would learn to recognize the different calls.  Good memories.

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2012

    just wanted to pop in and say that I am sending positive thoughts for LJ, MBJ, Becca... lots of {{hugs}} for everyone.

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2012

    PS.  I've been on metformin for over a year (after giving the initial papers/animal studies to my super-onc) and ya'll are wise to be trying to get it. 

    xxoo

  • navymom
    navymom Member Posts: 842
    edited March 2012

    Loving all the garden chat......can't wait to get outside and dig in the dirt.

    Thinking of all of you ladies. 

  • ATeamNana
    ATeamNana Member Posts: 224
    edited March 2012

    Haven't popped in here for awhile...Hi Navy Mom...you may remember me from the

    Lombard, IL lunch in June of last year.  I will be there again in June this year...hoping

    to meet some gals for lunch again..  Hope you are doing well.

    Marsha

    Best to everyone else on this board as well....I am ready for full fledge Spring, except

    for the storms & tornadoes that come with it:(

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 652
    edited March 2012

    Hi Tif, I'm here! I am about a third of the way done with rads, pretty uneventful thank goodness! I think I have gone over 5 weeks with not seeing my mo! I better call to make sure he doesn't want to see me yet, but I seem to remember him saying he will see me when I am done with rads.

    I have about 3 weeks of this school quarter left, and I have so many papers to write! Short papers, but I am stuck on one about Kant and "groundwork for the metaphysic of morals"-sounds fun doesn't it?! It is interesting, but I had to take a break.

    LJ-thanks for posting on ponds, my hubby has always wanted one. We do have alot of predators, possibly including my cats and dogs! Although my big yellow lab mix would probably want to wade in the pond. We have a rain garden that fills up with water in the winter and he will just go stand in the water, even if it is cold outside!

    Suze-I am thinking of you! Hope you feel up to posting soon, we miss you!

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 1,313
    edited March 2012

    LJ...it's nice to have our very own horticultorist on board here..seriously I mean it..it's amazing what you know...

    Maccrimmon..way to go...we need pampered..we all certainly deserve it!

    Heard bad news today..my friend/co-worker was just diagnosed with BC...1.5 cm er postive..had another biopsy today because they found another tumor in the same breast...ah..she told me and I just grabbed and hugged her for a long time..she told me to not cry because she would cry but I couldn't help it..I cried for her, for me, for all of us that have to go through this crap...

    Funny stuff is....I told her that being estrogen positive was a good thing..another tn-co-worker told her that it wasn't that good of thing because of the effects of tamoxifin...

    I just gave her this websites address..told to her to just read what pertains to her NOW...and to take one day at a time...she is already talking about chemo and I told her that she may not even have to have chemo...just concentrate on whether or not a lumpectomy or masectomy would be good for her...worry about the other stuff later.

    there is soo much stuff I want to tell her but too much info at once is..well too much...

    This disease sucks..

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 804
    edited March 2012

    Bak- thanks for posting!! I'm glad things are going smoothly for you! I sure admire you for going to school during all this. I remember studying Kant many years ago at The University of Kansas ( graduated in 1988). I don't think I could ever go back to school, nor do I want to! I am satisfied just helping the kids with their school work.

    We used to have a Golden retriever that loved to get into our old neighbors pond. Thankfully he never ripped or broke the liner!

    Tomorrow I am going with my son and his class to the Missouri capital (Jefferson City) for their fourth grade field trip. We leave at 6:15am and return about 7:30pm. I'd better get to bed- it's going to be a long day tomorrow!!

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 804
    edited March 2012

    Titan- so sorry about your friend- when will this beast be stopped???

  • sugar77
    sugar77 Member Posts: 1,328
    edited March 2012

    Tifj - wow...that's early. I attended a marketing confererence today in downtown Toronto (I live/work in the suburbs) so I caught the commuter train at 7:00 a.m. and I thought that was early.  I'm absolutely zonked.  I couldn't do the commuter thing daily that's for sure.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 1,313
    edited March 2012

    Ha ha Bak...we are lurking on you...can't let you go a day or two w/o hearing from you...lol..we are all really a bunch of worriers aren't we.

    Take this as a note ladies..if you don't post...we will find you...lol

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,188
    edited March 2012

    Tifd - was wondering if you got the job you went for.  Hope you get it.

    Titan - another person going through this crap, your co worker. Will it ever stop. I believe estrogen positive is good.  I wish I had been this when I was diagnosed. I might be wrong but I just think there are more doors open to this kind of cancer.

    Maccrimmon - I'm so glad you enjoyed the pampering.  I think we could all do with some of that to perk us up.

    Bak94 - Really glad your rads are going well.  Half way through, way to go.

    Laurajane - Wishing you wonderful news from your bone scan. When I have had scans they all seem to have that deadpan face and won't say anything, mean bastards.  I'm praying for an all clear for you.

    HeidiToo - the Sounds of Spring were wonderful.  I'm clinging onto the thought of spring at the moment and hopefully a better summer in NZ that what we had this year but its coming up winter and is getting very cold.  

    On the home front.  My port went in good with no probs.  Not even really sore.  On the down side my hair has all come out.  It wasn't very wonderful,  very short, wavy with a nice golden colour but I liked it as it was mine so I will probably come back grey now, not sure I am ready for that yet even at 65.  Second chemo tomorrow, so here we go again. The train just never stops it seems.

    LJ, MBJ, Susan and Becca - praying you all had a good day today.  Sending heaps of warm fuzzies and lots of smiles.  xxooxx. Annie          

  • navymom
    navymom Member Posts: 842
    edited March 2012

    ATeamNana....For sure I remember you!.  We had a great time at the Weber grill.  I would love to get together with you again this summer.  Keep in touch and we can mark down a date when you will be up north.

    Waving hello to everyone.

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 563
    edited March 2012

    Bak, very happy to hear from you and hear good stuff.

    LJ - Good Luck on the bone scan, can't wait to hear good news.

    Titan - Sorry to hear about your co-worker, you will probably have to go through this experience with her.  But I am glad she has you, to support her.

    Ladies, either I am super crazy or this menopause or chemopause is hitting me big time.  Just now, yes, just now, I realized that I did not ask my Onc. about metformin at my last Friday's appointment.  Can you believe this?  Honestly, I think it is our chemistry or that I get too nervous, there is a lot to cover in one short appointment.  This was my 3 month appointment.  I can always make another appointment anytime I want, but honestly, I don't like going there too much.  Right now, I can't think what or when I will go back to ask him for Metformin.  I need to write things down next time.

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 496
    edited March 2012

    Good morning everyone. Titan so sorry to hear about your friend. Definitely news no one wants to hear. Just recently learned of a co-worker sister who is now one of the 1 in 8.

  • ksmatthews
    ksmatthews Member Posts: 743
    edited March 2012

    Ok my onc agreed to let me do metformin, but today when I saw my BS he was kinda not so happy about it.  Truthfully I love my BS and really trust him more.  Now I am confused about what to do.  He said it could have some serious side effects.  I looked on internet and liver and kidney damage is 2 of them!!!

    What to do???? 

  • Babs37
    Babs37 Member Posts: 320
    edited March 2012

    I went for my mamogram 2 weeks ago and this morning got a call back and I have to go in for a breast US next wednesday. I'm trying not to freak out over this. I want to believe it's only because I have a dense spot on my remaining breast and they want to make sure it's not hiding anything suspicious. Undecided

    But tomorrow morning 10:00 it's my abdominal US to look at my liver and the "fatty liver spots".I am a little nervous and for once in my life I will be praying for a fatty liver!

    Did someone say it today? No...... Then: I HATE CANCER!!!!!

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 563
    edited March 2012

    Hi Babs

    I suggest don't freak out as it probably is benign.  I went through the same exact experience very recently.  They saw an enhancement on a bilat. MRI, and I had to get a biopsy, which turned out to be benign. You have a dense spot on your other breast, I have flat epethelial atypia in the other breast (which are pre pre pre pre cancer).  But this time with the biopsy, my surgeon called to say that they didn't even find any atypia in the tissue sample.  I also have been told in a prior ultrasound that I have fatty liver (not spots though), but in the petscan there was no uptake, thank God.  I am glad they are checking you out so thoroughly but I have a feeling these are all benign. It seems like we both were diagnosed around the same time in 2010.

  • OBXK
    OBXK Member Posts: 689
    edited March 2012

    Titan - your mom sounds like a hoot! With the all the odds you have against you, I'm glad they moved to your favor!

    LJ - hope the old porch is off? I would have hated that clean-up, my stash sites have a crazy mix too. Hope the new recliner works out well. I live along a big river, there is a pound net set about a 100 yards away. I love to watch the Blue Herron, fighting over the fish, some kind soul seems to have rounded up for them. I'd hate to think of them spearing fish, in your koi pond! I'd love to have one too!

    Annie- glad your port went in with no problems! At 50, for now, I have embraced my silver hair - bigger fish to fry and all that.



    Time for dinner... Hugs and love all around!

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 652
    edited March 2012

    Babs, I hope time passes quickly for you so you don't have to worry very long! Hoping you get great news, which you probaby will, they are just extra cautious with us, but I know that does not make the waiting any easier.

    I woke up late this morning, would have had to run out the door with out showering to make it to rads in time, plus it was snowing. Decided to call and ask for a later appointment, which they gave me. Went back to sleep, woke up again and it was a beautiful day, sunny, but cold! Went to my appointment, came home and as I was getting my keys out to open the door I hear my dogs just howling like mad! It was too funny. They were overly excited! The goaties were jumping around like it was spring time and the chickens were chatting loudly. I guess all the animals are very happy it is sunny! Plus I have flowers that came back, I think they are prim roses?! All different colors. 

  • Babs37
    Babs37 Member Posts: 320
    edited March 2012

    Thanks lovelyface. I already had a liver scan last november and it came back clear but it mentionned something that "looked like fatty liver". So now I have to get that checked out tomorrow. Does fatty liver cause you pain in the liver sometimes? I asked for a scan because I had pain in my liver and since I am on the Metformin I wasn't sure if the pain was caused by the metformin or something else like mets. Guess I will know for sure tomorrow........ 

  • christina1961
    christina1961 Member Posts: 450
    edited March 2012

    Babs,

    According to this website, a fatty liver can cause pain:

    http://www.liverfailuresymptoms.com/reducing-fatty-liver-pain.html

    Strangely enough, it also goes on to say that high levels of insulin can lead to fatty liver.  It recommends a low glycemic diet (after mentioning all the foods I like best as the culprits in a high glycemic diet! )

    I wonder how much all this chemo does to our livers.  I had what I thought might be liver pain during the last of this clinical trial but the pain has moved around and is much better, gone at times.  I have mentioned it to my oncologist but I am waiting to see if it goes away completely in the next few weeks. I never want to ignore something, but also don't want to have too many scans (I've already had 2 CT scans.) I hope all goes well and since metformin is known to cause GI upset, I'm hoping it is something simple like gas pains.  It very well could be that as I have had those in the upper right quandrant before.

  • Babs37
    Babs37 Member Posts: 320
    edited March 2012
    christina- I read that chemo can cause fatty liver. Since I've been in the Metformin trial, I have been having trouble with "on and off" liver pain, upset stomach and GI problems too. I was told that the GI stuff would be just for a couple of weeks until my body adjusted to the metformin but for me it never stopped and I've been on it since last april. I want to blame the Metformin for all of this but I wanted to be sure it wasn't something else so that's why I asked for a scan. And I want to be sure that the Metformin is not causing more problems then good. My clinical trial nurse said, last october when I saw her and told her about my symptoms that we would continue the dose (850mg X2 a day) for another 6 months and then re-evaluate the situation. I want a lower dosage, maybe 500mg X 2 a day would be enough for me. I just have the feeling it's just too much on my liver. I meet with her on the 21rst so we will see......................
  • ksmatthews
    ksmatthews Member Posts: 743
    edited March 2012

    Is the Metformin worth the side effects?  My onc wrote me a script ,but I am nervous about taking it.  She keeps telling me it is normally NOT for BC patients...Idk???

  • Babs37
    Babs37 Member Posts: 320
    edited March 2012

    ks- Not everyone has SE that last. I think that Fighter34 has been taking Metformin and is doing just fine. Before taking it, just make sure your liver is ok. I had blood tests done before starting it and will have them every 6 months after.

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 563
    edited March 2012

    Babs, I have had a few very weird sensations in my liver but just a few times over the years. They were not pain, but something there was actually jumping, very strange.  I was told I had a fatty liver way before the cancer diagnosis, therefore, in my case chemo did not cause it, maybe a high fat diet did.  My doc. told me that a high percentage of Americans have fatty liver, it is very common.  Maybe your pain is caused by a side effect of metformin.  Since they specifically state that metformin's side effect is liver and kidney damage, we all need to be careful of the risks versus benefits.

    Christina - I also don't want to have too many scans and try very hard to figure things out and heal them myself, either by discontinuing the drug or changing my diet.  But when you have to have the tests, there is nothing we can do, right?

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 1,313
    edited March 2012

    Another co-worker told me that the co-worker that was just diagnosed said that it really meant alot to talk to me...I had a great support person at work when I went through this and now it is my time to pay it back...it's not easy though..do you know what I mean..I'm living it all again..she is the same age as I was when diagnosed...and the same time of the year...well..I guess I will have to "woman" up and support her...I plan on hugging her every day...she will probably get sick of me..lol

    Ah..the liver thing...take milk thistle...I've been taking it a couple of years now and it seems to help...of course, ask your dr's about it b-4 taking but my onc is okay with it.

    Metformin...I want a prescription..I know that there maybe be some se's but maybe it wouldn't hurt to try it..you can always quit it...they have to tell you all the se's..maybe they won't happen to you...if we actually paid attention to all the se's from chemo and rads we probably would have gone screaming out the door...actually what Babs said...!

    OBX..your hair came back silver..at age 50?  I bet it is really pretty...

    Annie...losing your hair sucks....it is gone but it will come back...sometimes when I'm doing  my hair I look in the mirror and really can't remember being bald...total shock at first..but once I was used to it..it wasn't that big of a deal..I did wear a wig..a really cute one..but at home I was topless...the family got used to it...after the initial shock...it is what it is...we are fighting for our lives...and dang it ..bald is beautiful!