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I look for other flat chested women. A rant.

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  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 615

    MT...what a wonderful pool experience! 

    As for responses...what about something completely honest...like..."I can understand that you feel that way (or see it that way), but I don't."  End of discussion.  Or, "Wow.  Can't say I see it the same way." 

    Good luck...hope you can shut down the insensitivity...

  • MT1
    MT1 Member Posts: 223

    I like that CLC!

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 277

    MT awesome experiences, thanks for sharing.

    When women get on their "must-reconstruct" soapbox, I just respond "Oh, I just would never do that" and move away. if they press for answers I just say "I really am very OK this way, the cancer is gone, I am OK".

  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 1,713

    MT, thanks for sharing!  I know way too many people as you described, no filter between brain and mouth!   And you ARE and inspiration!!!

    CLC, I LOVE your comments!

    I adopted a phrase from a wonderful artist some years ago: "I am just not moved to do so."  Ends a lot of discussions.  How can you argue with THAT?

  • ridergirl
    ridergirl Member Posts: 94

    I think i might be inclined to something along the lines of "gee i can certainly see why you'd think that way. What would actually make you say it, on the other hand, is completely beyond me." Sorry i'm a little sarcastic but it works for me :-)

  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 1,713

    Oh, I DO like sarcasm!!!!!  And it has to be said with the appropriate tone of voice and body language!  Laughing

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 277

    Ridergirl...I love it!!!!!! :-)

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 615

    Ridergirl...that is a wonderful thing to say to a truly insensitive remark.  I may just use it, if I think on my feet quickly enough...

  • MT1
    MT1 Member Posts: 223

    May I ask that you please share my article in your online social network, facebook, tweet, pinterest, whatever? If you do not discuss this sort of thing online, no worries, it is just that I would love for the word to get out even more than I am able to on my own social networks.

    http://www.rolereboot.org/life/details/2012-08-i-chose-to-live-as-a-flat-chested-woman-after-breast 

    I have also been trying to get Ms. magaine and Bust to republish it. :) 

  • fishnw
    fishnw Member Posts: 3

    I have been quietly reading posts for a few months now, but your article called out to me. I just have to say, "thank you" you are a wonderful writer and I hope that this article is republished in many places. I too am "Flat and Fabulous".

  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 1,713

    Mel, I just sent emails to Rachel Ray, Ellen Degeres, and NPRs Talk of the Nation suggesting they do a program on breast cancer during the month of October.  I sent them before seeing your post above, sorry I did not get it included.  I posted the messages I sent via email to them on the Pinktober Revolution thread.  I got a little carried away, but there was space limitation in the one, but not the other two, so I got a little wordy! (gee, imagine that, Linda a little wordy!)  Wink

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 277

    Fishnw, Nice to hear from you!

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 7,080

    MT

    Excellent article!  I too wonder how many of us are out there but afraid to go without their forms.  I have had a couple of bc patients with implants tell me that they wish they had been brave enough to go without.  I tell them it had nothing to do with bravery.  On the contrary, all the surgery, discomfort and looking at numb, fake boobs everyday scared the heck out of me.   Being boobless is actually quite liberating!!

     I hope all the ladies here considering recon take the time to read the article.  Thanks for sharing. 

     Edited for sp. 

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 7,080

    Re clothing issues:

    My dh tried to get "What Not To Wear" to do an episode with a flat chested woman.  Didn't happen.  I suspect they have no idea how many of us would have watched that episode. 

  • Starak
    Starak Member Posts: 311

    They did do an episode on a young wife and mother who went flat.  I "think" her name was Sara or Sarah.  I believe it was in early 2010 as I saw it within a few months of being diagnosed.

    When I have a chance, I will look for a link.

    Barbara

  • Starak
    Starak Member Posts: 311

    Here is a link to Sara's makeover which was Season 7, Episode 22.   Sara did not recon and did not wear prosthetics.  Even though I rarely mention it, this story aired about the time I was diagnosed and was a factor in understanding that no recon and no prosthetics were viable alternatives.   Stacy and Clinton dressed her as she was using many of the techniques we talk about here and without pushing her to a PS or a fitter. 

     http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/tv/what-not-to-wear/sara-makeover.htm

    Barbara

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 7,080

    Excellent.  I haven't watched it for a couple of years so it is good to see that they followed up on it.  I am sure there were plenty of people requesting it.  I will definitely check it out.  Thanks.

  • river_rat
    river_rat Member Posts: 317

    I couldn't find video at that link but I found a very quick video synopsis at this link:

    http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/tv/what-not-to-wear/videos/life-after-cancer.htm 

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 615

    Yeah for Sarah!!!  Thanks for the links!

  • shirleysangels22
    shirleysangels22 Member Posts: 7

    Hi ladies,

    I'm also a flat chested double mastectomy survivor of 14 months. My wonderful husband of 44 years and my Daughter talked about it when the BS left the room. All 3 of us said at the same time take them both and no reconstruction. I feel good about being flat. No more pulling up my bra straps every two seconds. I get dressed so much faster too.

    I'm proud to join this fantastic group of Pink Sisters.

    God bless.

    Shirley, another proud flat chested Sister in Pink from Scottsdale,AZ

  • shirleysangels22
    shirleysangels22 Member Posts: 7

    Hi MT 1,

    I tell people that ( this way people can't tell if I'm coming or going ) some people laugh and others just kind of look at me and say nothing.  I use a lot of humor. It seems to work when people get rude or don't know what to say.

    Your Sister in pink,

    Shirley from Scottsdale,AZ

  • Purl51
    Purl51 Member Posts: 174

    "this way people can't tell if I'm coming or going" - I LOVE it Shirley!

    I think I'm 92.6% leaning toward a prophylactic mastectomy of my remaining breast.  I was 91% sure before reading this quote!

  • MT1
    MT1 Member Posts: 223

    Purl51, very funny! Welcome ShirleySang!

  • shirleysangels22
    shirleysangels22 Member Posts: 7

    Hi Purl51,

    Great to read your comment. I hope it helps you.

    I have also found that by the time people figure out what's missing I'm gone. There is a saying ( The people who matter don't care and the people that care don't matter ) I have come to really believe it's true.

    Stay strong my sister in pink.

    Shirley

  • ohio4me
    ohio4me Member Posts: 323

    Last month I decided on no reconstruction and I love it. No boobs or bra is pretty great. I still feel funny leaving the house without a bra. Makes me like a teenager trying to break the rules. It's fun.

  • Starak
    Starak Member Posts: 311

    I went out certifiably flat with this new shirt yesterday while eyeglass shopping.  This time it should be a reasonable size.  This is one of two that I ordered from VistaPrint.  I used a VistaPrint stock design under a sub-section entitled "Feminine" and then added my own words which are "Flat & Fabulous   ...this flat don't need fixin'."   I ordered a woman's Large which is geared for a 12-14 and I think runs pretty true to size.

    Alexandria, I would LOVE to see what you have ordered for those going to Flat Fest if you could post a link or pic.  I wish I could be there. 

    VistaPrint stock design 1-my words

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 202

    Hi Starak,

        The one's I've selected cost $21 and change - plus a section of the shipping - which be be split among those who buy a shirt.   It's a basic men's black tee - with the words This Flat Don't Need Fixing on the front and Flat & Fabulous in lilac on the back. Have held off from shipping until I'm sure how many people want one.  I'll try putting up a link, but I don't know if it'll work if it's not from my e-mail.  Not sure how to put it up otherwise.

    (http://www.vistaprint.com/vp/gateway.aspx?S=4940003292&langid=1&eeilid=3079809397&eolid=0&erid=774027926&PREURL=/vp/ns/my_account.aspx&xnav=email10103&xnid=BasketExpiration3DayText1).
     

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 277

    Welcome Happee!  I am glad you found us here. Yes, you will get people who comment that we have missed out of a "free boob job" but people say the dumbest things no matter what. Just smile and walk away.

    You may go through many different phases as you move into recovery, it is all normal and feel free to post your thoughts here.

    I personally go flat 6 out of 7 days, even when dresed up (I buy clothes that look right on me now), and if I want boobs, I have them and can wear them too. The choice is nice. And not wearing a bra is very nice. And not worrying about Cancer is...priceless :-)

    I wish you a smooth easy healing time.

  • Starak
    Starak Member Posts: 311

    Alexandria:  I have spent all I can justify recently but still want to see photos.  Better yet I look forward to the group pic of you all modeling them at Flat Fest.

    Happee2BMe:  Welcome.  It makes me smile that so early on you are finding the strength and confidence to go in a direction you feel is right for you and to start filtering out what you know is not.  Keep being true to yourself.

    Barbara

  • FernMF
    FernMF Member Posts: 274

    Happy to be me . . . . good for you . . . I had bi-lateral mastectomy on May 7 - with no plans for reconstruction.  I am also one of those "concave" negative A sized gals, so I don't "seem" all that less of a woman.  I certainly DO NOT miss ill-fitting bras!  I do wear prosthesis at work and at church.  When I walk (every day) I am au naturale, at home I am as well.  I've had a few visitors catch me "flat" . . . and I am o.k. with that.  GOOD FOR YOU.  HOPE THE HEALING CONTINUES!  I posted pictures a while back - before and after.