I look for other flat chested women. A rant.
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That may be the reason Momine, I was, is, a "D" cup. I am totally flat and smooth on the right side.
When I reach around, with my left hand, under my right arm, as far as I can reach, is where this little bulge is. It isn't really terrible, just a bit annoying. Maybe if I lose a bit of weight it will flatten out!
I have put on a bit of the 10kg I lost from the big house move, and then the stress of all the waiting after my Dx. I haven't been as mobile, or nearly as busy, as before the surgery. I guess it is early days, plenty of time to get back into a routine.
I am back into the caring role for my husband. I was incredibly fortunate that his other carers took up the slack, doing the heavier duties to give me a couple of months to heal properly. That should get a few ponds off!
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Moira, I'm about to move houses too! Don't know how I will do that, quite, while being unable to raise my arms over my head... and I have two six-year-olds!
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Oh my goodness, bobogirl, I feel for you. I hope you have help to pack etc.
Twins too! You don't do things by halves!
All I can suggest is, accept any help that is offered. It can be a really stressful thing to do, but wonderful when it is done. We have been here since the end of June last year, and we still haven't unpacked all the boxes.
We made a huge move, this is our "forever house". We are on a huge lake, but we bought the house before we sold our own. What were we thinking!LOL
It all worked out fine, sold ours in a few weeks, and started five months of renovations on the new one. Had to drive 300 km every two weeks to oversee the work. Then had to stay in a Motel for a week, we were homeless, till the painters finished. Not super easy with a husband who is a quadraplegic.
All's well that ends well! We have never been happier, and this is absolute paradise every day.
Good luck with the move, and take care not to do too much!
I went for my routine mammo in october, the rest is history.
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Oh my! You don't do things by halves either!
A lake! Paradise. Can't believe you made it through a week in motel. Not even 'hotel' with an 'h', which would connote something fancier
We'll move in June or July, I think. Haven't officially started looking, but a house may have found us. If that works out I'm going to consider it divine providence and just do it. (we are renting; new to the area). So I'll be well finished with surgery by then -- I hope! -- but probably won't be picking up a couch. Too bad, everyone! Will sit in lawn chair with iced tea, and watch. Wait! Do not have lawn chair
I feel so together at the moment. Not worrying about the move just now. Worried more about the people here in this new city messing up my DX than I am worried about the MX -- my cancer is very rare, they don't know about it here, my previous surgeon is consulting, it's a mess. I realize that last sentence did not display best syntax. Anyway, I am occasionally overwhelmed, but overall feel very 'supergirl.' Making a list, checking it twice. It is suspicious.
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Glad to hear how well you are traveling there girl! You are a Supergirl!
Yep, it was a "M" not an "H" otel!! LOL, but with a terrace and a boat ramp right onto the water, so not too bad at all.
My husband tells people that my idea of roughing it is staying in a place that "doesn't have a shopping mall downstairs".
Walk away from that couch, and buy yourself a lawn chair, you are now officially, the "Project Manager"
I love hearing that a house may have found you, and the fact that you are feeling good is just wonderful. I am sure you'll get the changeover to the new medical team worked out.
Sorry to hear of the rarity of your Dx, take care of you, and enjoy your new place!
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Just realized the whole point of your alias -- I am not smart! That took an unnecessarily long time.
LOL because that's my actual title at work now
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There you are, now I am psychic!
Not a lot of thought went into that alias, Bobogirl I wanted to have a numberplate on my car with that, so my girlfriends would see it was me in the rear vision. Ha
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You are a goofball! Hmm... what do I want my girlfriends to read off my license plate in the rear-view mirror...
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Yep, that's what my daughter says too! Anything backwards is great, don't you think?
I love the thought of the double take!
You'd never guess I have an ex husband who's a comedian.
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Aha! I have an ex-husband who's a joke.
(Luckily made a better choice second time round!) You two are so great moving house in the middle of BC, may you know great happiness in your new homes.0 -
Good morning all,
bobogirl - -Yes - Make yourself a sign (Project Manager) , chair and supervise. No lifting!!!
Been reading but had a nasty stomach virus this week. Just begining to recover. I do love this thread. I am very fortunate , my surgeon did a great job, she said so herself! LOL, and the scar is pretty straight with no do ears. Thinking about having a tattoo there, but it won't be right away. Need to get up the courage. I have one small tattoo, so know what it feels like, so HHHmmmm.
I have a soon to be EX, that I joke about all the time. I have been told I should go a bit easier, but really he hands me material to respond to. What does he want me to do. Don't do that in front of the kids tho, that is a no no. Aways very respectful about their Dad.
I am sure folks have talked about this before, but as it is getting warmer here in New England, how do uni-boobers dress in the warm weather. I've got the cold weather attire down, fairly simple. But warm weather.
Thanks for the input
Be well
Nel
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Hi Nel,
uni-boobers? Nah, I think I'll call myself uniquely-breasted!! Seriously though, last summer I wore patterned shirts over vest (singlet) type t-shirts, in matching colours. I also bought several beautiful "the Mountain" t-shirts, an American brand of t-shirt that do gorgeous artistic t-shirts, mostly with pics of animals, reasoning that the eyecatching graphics very much distract from my asymetrical form. These were fine with jeans but when I wore them with cropped trousers I thought I looked a bit like one of the 7 dwarves. As I had no hair at the time it was a toss up between that and something even less politically correct. I also went to a Star Trek convention and bought some eyecatching (read distracting) tees there too. (I could actually have sat home and done this on Amazon but it was much more fun to go to the convention for real, and hubby was paying.) I was still wearing my wig at the time, but a Trek convention is a GREAT place to feel really normal no matter what you look like nor how many breasts you do or don't have.
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Mornig all, from Hot Summer, soon to be Cool Autumn in Australia!
Thanks for the well wishes Feelingfeline, a husband that's a joke! I like that.
Nel, I haven't had a problem with super hot weather dressing. I had my surgery in December which is stifling here.
I got creative with sarongs, because I couldn't wear a real prosthesis, I pinned a softee inside a sarong and tied the twisted ends around my neck. That kept the fabric away from my chest, so it didn't irritate me.
I absolutely love the Amoeana Valetta camis, and I have also bought their Tshirts too. These tops all have a built in bra with pockets for foobs. I wore one of the camis to a BC meeting, six weeks after my surgery, with my new prosthesis. The women there thought I hadn't had my surgery yet because the top sits flat to the chest, and doesn't fall forward when you bend over. I love how these tops will work under a jacket, or a standard, or waterfall cardigan as it gets cooler.
Feelingfeline described the patterned TShirts, and the vests which are great. I found racerback vests made from bamboo, which is the softest fabric I have found, the brand name is Venus.
I also bought several floaty indian cotton dresses, and kaftan tops which are fine with/without a foob.
Summerweight scarves have been great too, for foobless days!
I found an interesting alternative to the Amoena cami which I will buy to try this week. It is the maternity cami, much cheaper than the Valletta, It has the clips on the front that I will remove and stitch the strap direct to the front. There is a bra inside that has a half circle of fabric that will hold a foob with a couple of stitches or a pin, or an easy pocket could be stitched into it for a silicone prosthesis.
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Hi Ariom,
I googled the amoena valetta cami that you mentioned. It looks really nice. I am not familiar with ordering these items online and couldn't see the button where you click to order the item, nor could I see the price. How does the website work? Do you have to become a member to order these items?
ETA.... I just saw the cami on another website showing all the required info. I will order a couple as soon as I get back to Florida (less tax to pay there). Thanks Ariom, I look forward to trying them. (I think Momine or another gal mentioned that the cami might do the trick for when I play golf where I won't want the bra to ride up).
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Hi Painterly, I do hope you like the cami, I just love them and have worn them all summer. I don't know about the golf swing, I don't play, but I find these camis really comfortable, and secure. They have adjustable straps too which allows them to fit everyone
I have found that the real Mx bras, although they can be expensive, are really good too. The Ahh bras are great for casual times, but for me, nothing beats a really well cut well made bra, if you are working, or going out. I have bought quite a number on ebay at great prices. Even having them sent from the US, I am way ahead of what I have to pay for them here.
I found a seller who had 6 Amoena bras in my size, all different styles at $9.99 each. I have to pay near $80.00 each here in Aus. He had taken over a business and had lots of great styles at that price, all with tags and in the boxes. I won't have to buy another bra for ages.
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Haven't been posting much either. Just wanted to offer words of encouragement to Djustme. I lost my job, too, after surgery, because I was unable to tote boxes of documents to court. It was pretty traumatic, too. Things got better for me, but it took a while.
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Painterly, Amoena does not sell direct to the public. Try breastfree.org for links to retailers. I personally use metromedicalonline.com The Amoena Valetta generally runs from $45 to $55.
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Hi Starak! Thanks for that advice, I took a look at that site.
I find it amazing how there is such diparity in price between the two countries. I like to support our local businesses, but when I can save that much on an item I am going to buy from the US every time.
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Im a flatter than flat chested lady who is 59, young minded, never had a big boobs, use to hate wearing a bra, and could get away w/it....as of doing more surgeries, NOPE, I dont regret it, and I feel and felt at the time of them (masct) each at diff times, I guess I had lots of confidence, and held my head up high, wear form fitting tops, like tank tops etc...I dont work, as Im disabled, but I had to buy a dress last summer, actually didnt have to but it looked so good, as it had spagatti straps, and the top part had like pleats going down to waist, and in middle buttons, which kind of went "poof", at first in fitting room I bent over and you could see down, then I saw it had on straps in back, that were moveable I made them smaller/shorter and wouldnt you know I had "zilch" boobs. It was great and had to buy it... I also as Ive lost tons of weight do other physical problems, many of my T's have low neck lines, like they show in victoria sec catalogs, but I have tons of tank tops, summer or winter, so if I bend over, you dont see my scarred up flat chest.
The first surgeon who did my first masct I told him NO I dont want reconstruction, but he left extra skin just in case I would change my mind, he was a wacko..other surgeon listened to me and it is much nicer looking, not 1/2 inch saggy along the scars.
Im happy how I am and save $$$ on bras..lol, and being I dont work, I dont have to wait to get home to take the bra off and put on play clothes or bathrobe.
Oh FYI, Im single, I started dating, not really dating but I met a man and we have a good companioinship, as he lost his wife to pancreatic cancer about 8 years ago...hadnt had sex in over 17 years....but this "gentleman" it didnt bother him what so ever, ...
oh another thing kind of funny, a while back, a few of us gals were sitting around one of their homes and they were yacking about mamo's, and how they hurt etc....boy I was on fire, finally I had enough and stood up and said "oh mammo's hurt?, I then lifted my shirts I had on and exposed my "flat chest to all them" and said don't tell me anything more, there was silence, I kind of felt like "OMG what did I do", but they all thanked me for knocking sence into their heads, as I also said dont ever say mammo's hurt, try going thru what Ive gone thru, and still going thru.
Your more than welcome to msg me if you'd like.
hugs
Ter
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Ter you are a hoot.Love how you shocked them into silence.
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I loved that Ter, You are amazing!
Would have done the same thing myself. No one talks "painful mammos" around me either.
Also, glad to hear there are men out there who see past the scars, and you've met one of them.
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That was a useful lesson in more than one ways. Not only should those women shut up about something so trivial, reminding them why they need mammagrams ain't the worst idea, either.
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Oh CC, so know what you mean about being able to roll to your stomach. I used to be a side sleeper. Now, I start out that way and most mornings I wake on my stomach and I like it!
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Do any of you lovely ladies mind the whole world knowing about your missing boobs? I am thinking that you don't mind, since many of you are happy sporting the flat look.
I enjoy living in denial and it separates me from thinking about breast cancer and I get away from the disease through the enjoyment of my hobbies (mainly my painting) and sports (my golf) and my family and my lovely grandkids. But when people know that you have had your boobs removed because of this hateful disease they ask stupid questions and constantly enquire after my health which then brings me out of my denial state of mind and I find it very upsetting and their comments disturb my enormous peace that I have built for myself. Any thoughts about how I could keep their nose out of my business (to put it in a humorous way)?
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Painterly, I don't think anyone seems to notice I don't have boobs. I'm really not sure what I'd say if someone commented -- that would be incredibly rude! What kind of comments are you getting? Perhaps we can help you think of comebacks. I did have one person kind of fawn all over me & seemed so worried about my health and recent surgery & mentioned me being fragile. I just said to him, "I'm not going to break!" and we moved on to other business.
Apparently I look pretty much the same even though I've gone from a DD to completely flat. Multiple people have asked if I had my surgery yet LOL! So I guess it's just not that noticable, or people are just very oblivious. I am happy with the way I look and most of my clothes (both fitted and baggy) fit better and if anything I feel I look better-proportioned now. Well, except for my bloated belly, that's much more obvious to me without boobs, but I'll work on that.
So no, I don't care if people know, but I may feel differently when I start chemo & also have no hair (and no way could I get a wig to match my weird hair, even if I wanted to wear one!) 0 -
My mom is considering bmx with no reconstruction, her fear is that her bra will slide up - does this happen? She will likely wear some type of prothesis in her bra. She had a partial mx many years ago.
Thanks.
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It would probably slide up... I haven't worn a regular bra but one of my camis has a built-in bra that now slides up & I imagine it would be weird with prosthetics in it? One type of surgery my BS offered to do was called a "goldilocks mastectomy" (I didn't opt for this) which is a type of skin-sparing mastectomy where they scrape off the skin & kind of roll it up to build two small mounds where your breasts would be, and then a bra can sit right below the mounds and they will hold it in place. My point is that she should talk to her BS about options because there ARE options to help with that, although not all surgeons may have experience with those options...
Here's an article on the goldilocks mastectomy if you're interested: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1743919112007480
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Hi, there are prosthetics that can be used further down the track, when the healing is more complete.
They are "contact" prosthetics, a couple of the well known companies make them. They are designed to be worn with a normal bra, and attach to the skin of the chest.
There is a video on the Amoena website that shows how they are worn. I would imagine they would prevent the ride up of the bra.
I hope this may help.
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Hi All,
My bra with prosthetic rides up when I am excercising, I do zumba. So I gave up during the winter and just wore a black shirt. I am small so it wasn't like my other side was bouncing around. Now that the warm weather is coming I have a an exercise tank that I can slide the prostetic into. We will see how that goes. The rest of the time, everything sort of stays where it should.
Be well,Nel
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