Treating estrogen responsive cancer naturally
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Della
Can you gt the shot ? I know it is after the fact, but I have known ppl who got the shot and claimed it helped/never returned. Ask your DR (?)
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Add Liposomal vitamin C (not a brilliant taste) start with 5ml a day then build up to 10ml - 5 every 12 hours.....and Vitamin D3.....drink at least 4 pints of water every day......
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wow - i didnt know you could get shingles more than once. I had them about 4 years before my dx. I was lucky and got in to see a doctor within the 72hr period and was able to take rx. I could have sworn doc told me that it was a one time thing. hmmm In addition to what you take, I take Perilla Oil (omega 3). Its safer than fish oil. And I also take Colostrum. I also take 1000mg of Vit C and 5,000 Vit D daily. If you havent seen a naturopath, I would definitely suggest going to see one.
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Lily, what brand Lipisomal do you use?
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Della - I have had shingles three times also. Once 20 years ago, the second time was while I was recovering from a burst appendix (both of these were pre-diagnosis); the second was four months before I found the lump. The third time was a year and a half ago and was the least painful, I am assuming because I had the vaccine in between numbers two and three. My GP had no suggestions but felt that low immunity was not the whole story for recurrences of shingles. Have you had the vaccine?
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MY GP said if I hadn't built antibodies after having them three times, then the vaccine would probably not work, but I am willing to try anything. So far, they start out slow, no pain, but itch like crazy. Once I am on meds, things move right along. I assumed the first time I got them that it was because my immune system was compromised from the cancer; the second probably caused by the compromised immune system by surgery and rads. This time, who knows? We had some serious stress in dealing with an insurance company and buying a new truck. So maybe that caused it. I am frankly at a loss and willing to entertain any suggestions.
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Purple:
My neck and chest get very red when I have the manual lymph work. But I have very sensitive skin and I only have 1/2 a thyroid because I had a benign mass on it and had it removed. Could this encourage my thyroid to work more/better. I take Kelp. Shouldn't that keep down a goiter?
It is like a whirlwind of info on here and it's hard to sort it out. Also, one lady posted that she had an onco score of 18 and a recurrence score of 12%. How does that work?
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, then the vaccine would probably not work, but I am willing to try anything.
Della
I would strongly encourage you to try the shot ! I work with older ppl and know many who seem to have been helped by it. Remember- no needles on the affected side!
As for the thyroid, I am actually wondering if the MLD has been' bad' for my goiter. Drs are doing bloodwork now. I certainly used the lightest touch, but wonder if things were stimulated in the wrong way. Who knows ? Sorry I cannot be of more help. Do you have an endocrinolgist ? If not, I suggest you see one. Kelp, iodine and all of that really require bloodwork and close supervision from a very good endo dr. It is not a one size fits all or do it yourself thing- thats for certain.
I am no whiz at these percentages.
Try this :
http://www.lifemath.net/cancer/breastcancer/therapy/index.php
Good Luck !
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For immunity, maitake D-Fraction is very good and NAC is good.
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But do not take NAC if on nitroglycerin.
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Actually there has been some recent studies floating around lately that say the increase in the number of people getting shingles corresponds to the increase in the number of people getting the vaccine. Interesting. Some people are more susceptible to the virus. Once you've had shingles you can get them again and getting the vaccine will not help; just like the Hep vaccine will not help if you've already had hepatitis.
Shingles can be miserable, know. I hope you are feeling better soon.
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So anyone who has had measles can get shingles? Or is it chicken pox?. I've had both, but no shingles so far. You would think the cases would be fewer because younger people don't get measles and/or chicken pox as often nowadays (due to vaccines?)
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Shingles is related to chickenpox only. The vaccine has been modified so that you get a booster which may prevent shingles in people getting the newer vaccine. I don't think I even got a chickenpox vaccine because I got the disease. Additionally, the virus can "hide" for many years if you've had the disease....as can polio.
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I dont believe in vaccines, but thats a whole other discussion
Speaking of hepatitis - there is a recall on Organic Frozen berries from costco in the southwest - seems an outbreak of Hep A is linked to them......and I had been eating these berries since last june in my green smoothies. Every day, twice a day. So now Ive got to go to the doctor to get bloodwork. The symptoms for Hep A are similar to the SEs I attributed to the Aromasin I was on..... might be a coincidence? Really praying I dont have it......0 -
Shayne...i'm praying for you too.
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Thanks LorAll.......
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Shayne that is scary! I hope you did not get hepa! I don't believe in vaccines either and I'm worried they will make it mandatory at work next year. Going to try to use cancer as an excuse.
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ALWAYS use cancer as an excuse!!
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I agree lol!
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I am not a vaccine lover either, however my first two bouts with shingles were horrifically painful. The shingles event after the vaccine was a breeze compared to the first two.
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From Mayo Clinic site
Factors that may increase your risk of developing shingles include:
- Age. Shingles is most common in people older than 50. The risk increases with age. Some experts estimate that half the people who live to the age of 85 will experience shingles at some point in their lives.
- Diseases. Diseases that weaken your immune system, such as HIV/AIDS and cancer, can increase your risk of shingles.
- Cancer treatments. Undergoing radiation or chemotherapy can lower your resistance to diseases and may trigger shingles.
- Medications. Drugs designed to prevent rejection of transplanted organs can increase your risk of shingles — as can prolonged use of steroids, such as prednisone.
The shingles vaccine is used only as a prevention strategy, however. It's not intended to treat people who currently have the disease. The vaccine contains live virus and should not be given to people who have weakened immune systems.
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My nephew thought he had bug bites which turned out to be chicken pox. Up until then I had no idea there was a vaccine. He had one but didn't get the booster. Silly me thought everyone was supposed to get chicken pox once in their life!
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I'm sort of on the fence when it comes to vaccines, but I am planning on getting a shingles shot next year when I turn 50. My father had had a bad case of shingles in his late 40s -- he died suddenly (just shy of his 51st birthday -- and I was only 7 myself) of a heart attack. While he had a known heart condition, I remember my mother speculating after he died that his shingles somehow taxed his heart (which of course may or may not be true). To be fair, this was over 40 years ago, so he probably would not have died so young from heart disease if today's advanced technologies were available back then.
That aside, I have known people who have had shingles, and the symptoms they describe are something I would love to avoid like the plague.
Another anecdote to share -- several months ago my oldest sister (age 55) was complaining of an itchy, painful sore spot on one side of her scalp, along with fatigue and body aches. I had just been reading about shingles, and I immediately suggested to her that she might have it. She was able to be seen by her doctor right away. It was not a confirmed case, but her doctor prescribed acyclovir (anti-viral rx). My sister's symptoms abated pretty quickly, probably because she was able to start the anti-viral med right away.
So moral of this story -- if you suspect shingles, get to a doctor ASAP for anti-viral medication (zovirax, valtrex). I know this is an alternative medicine forum, so of course also visit a practitioner for a remedy -- I'm not aware of a specific alternative treatment, but I'm sure they exist. Acupuncture would also likely be helpful for alleviating the symptoms, no matter which route you go (Western or alternative).
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I appreciate all suggestions, alt or not. I've heard horror stories about shingles too and how debilitating the pain from them can be.
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I think the window for the meds for shingles to be effective is 72hours. I was lucky, my doc is usually so booked up I cant get in for a few days.......
my case was mild. My doc told me to google it and see the more severe cases. It can cause brain issues if its on the face! I had no idea you could get it multiple times. scary!0 -
Just thought I'd mention an issue re Arimidex. Right after I finished rads I started on Arimidex. I began to notice that my ribs under where my breasts were removed (both) were very sore to the touch. I thought it probably was rads. However, since I stopped the Arimidex a couple of weeks ago I have noticed that the sorness is almost gone.
I know joint pain is a problem with Arimidex but having my ribcage bones so sore is odd.
Kathy
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chatsworthgirl, after rads I began tamoxifen and my ribs got sorer and sorer. In fact, the ribs on my left side now stick out a little more than the unradiated side and from time to time they are still sore. I think rads is the gift that keeps on giving in that way. But as long as I know it is normal, and my surgeon assures me it is, then I can live with that and not be worried it is something else - if you know what I mean.
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I had pain in my armpit after the rads, but I don't know if it had to do with the rads or the meds I tried taking; maybe both, who knows? Either way, now I have pain just in the front from the surgical site itself.
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TRIAL for DIM or something LIKE DIM?
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