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Treating estrogen responsive cancer naturally

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  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 634
    edited April 2014

    lol....@ keep them as pets.

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 134
    edited April 2014

    Yeah, I'm not sure what my mother-in-law is going to do with her laying hens when they stop laying. She's pretty attached to them! Although she's not a vegetarian, I really can't see her eating her babies. 

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 1,748
    edited April 2014

    male chicks are killed shortly after birth in huge numbers, some are crushed to death in industrial rollers, its not something that sits easily with me so i am phasing eggs out. I dont want another living creature because of a demand i partly create.........have nit eaten meat fir 30 years 

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 187
    edited April 2014

    Oncowarrior, did you ever hear of a stewing hen?  (Piper looks sly)

    I have a good book by Russell Blaylock and it has some good stuff about flax so I will try to summarize as best I can:  

    *Very rich source of omega-3, which will significantly suppress angiogenesis.  Omega 6 oils promote angiogenesis.    

    *Has extremely high levels of lignans, which are composed of anti-cx chemicals which are converted by the friendly bacteria in the colon into enterolactone and enterodiol.  These both have powerful suppressing effects on BC.  The colon is also the organ, along with the liver, that will help rid you of "used" estrogen and keep it from being turned into the more harmful 16-alpha-hydroxy form.  It's not the estrogen we need to be afraid of--it's the imbalance of 16-A-H with the more much more benign 2-hydroxyestrone that's the real problem.  

    *Lignans have antioxidant, antiproliferative, antiestrogen, and antiangiogenesis properties.  

    *In the Finnish-Kuopio BC study, women with the highest levels of enterolactone had significantly lower BC risk than the women with low levels and that goes for pre and post menopausal women.  

    *Lignans block aromatase and IGF-1.  

    BTW, I don't bother to grind mine--I keep my seeds in a little cup and chew on them when I'm relaxing or driving in my car.  I used to snack on my way to somewhere and I drive a lot, but now I chew on flax seeds and it's quite enjoyable--I keep the bulk of them in the freezer.  I also take the oil and someone told me yesterday that if you buy Barlean's brand oil and tell them at the store that you have cancer they will give you a discount.  

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 1,767
    edited April 2014

    y, even today's mammos can't be trusted to pick up cancer in dense breasts


    It's true this is a challenge, but look around for  a center with 3D ( not digital- 3 D) mammography.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 1,767
    edited April 2014

    I was also told to avoid flaxseed. My CA is 90-100% estrogen positive, so that may be why,


    MINI
    Any ideas on this ?  I recently started eating it, and I am nearly 98% ER PR pos.

    Thanks for any add'l info!

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 337
    edited April 2014

    I seem to have some sort of skin trouble, probably auto-immune.  the other night I put a few drops of organic rosemary oil on a hand & rubbed it all over.  then could go back to sleep easily

  • Mini1
    Mini1 Member Posts: 1,309
    edited April 2014

    Purple, I stick mainly to chia seeds. I don't know if they are any better, but I'm paranoid of flax.

    We have had a lot of animal shelters being overrun with chickens. People are buying them for the eggs not realizing that they don't lay forever. They get attached and don't want to kill them. One shelter had 160-some chickens left in their parking lot in crates. They are having a hard time because they are set up to care for cats and dogs, not chickens. I know one person that raises chickens for the eggs, but who doesn't eat meat. They have the chickens processed and donate the meat to a local food bank. I've not heard of killing off the males, but I have heard of chickens that have been genetically modified to have larger breasts (because white meat is so popular), and also to come to maturity 4-5 weeks earlier. I can eat chicken now, but if I had them I'd name them and that would be the end of my chicken eating.

  • brooksidevt
    brooksidevt Member Posts: 1,432
    edited April 2014

    Aren't the male birds the ones who make their way into the supermarket?  I've always assumed the girls grew up to lay eggs, the boys to be dinner.  I had chickens for years.  They make excellent pets, need very little care, and are always happy to see you.  All they need from you is a secure home, a yard to scratch in, feed and water. 

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 231
    edited April 2014

    I agree, Mini; if it's got a name, it can never be dinner.

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 1,748
    edited April 2014

    chickens are gassed as method of killing before going to dinner table, they take fifteen minutes to suffocate under the foam in many cases

  • OncoWarrior
    OncoWarrior Member Posts: 3,326
    edited May 2015
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  • dventi
    dventi Member Posts: 100
    edited April 2014

    anyone tried chrysin as alternative to aromatase inhibitors?  I was on Femara - had vertigo.. now on aromasin...

    Not an advocate of these AI's...  Have a Dr who believes in alt meds... and mentioned chrysin.

    If you are using chrysin..,. how long have you been on it??

    Thanks for your input!!!

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 1,767
    edited April 2014

    dventi

    Have not tried it, but it does not sound too promising:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysin

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 2,845
    edited April 2014

    Purple, have to agree.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 337
    edited April 2014

    fascinating.  has telepathins seemingly &is contained in another rare indian botanical oroxylum indicum.  could find little or nothing about that.

  • dventi
    dventi Member Posts: 100
    edited April 2014

    @purple - thanks for link to chrysin

  • GrammyR
    GrammyR Member Posts: 297
    edited April 2014

    exbrxgrl-  I too have been avoiding all diary including eggs for the most part. The main thing is if the chickens have been fed w/hormones like most animal meat. I drink almond milk-low cal , no sugar and NO hormones. The problem is lack of info on most labeling. I avoid soy too which is often used I vegan recipes. I hope to see a naturalist Onc very soon and maybe they can advise more on this. Regular MO ever has dietary advise just drugs.


  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 2,845
    edited April 2014

    Grammy, I checked up on poultry soon after my DX. Hormones are not used on chickens.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 337
    edited April 2014

    harmalines are telepathins  theyre contained in tobacco, (tempers anger weed), penganum harmala a nursery botanical, passion flower, I actually grow one of these flowers & am thinking of juicing a leaf or 2, banesteropsi caapi the sa halucinogen.  have never before heard of chrysin, another alcoloid I guess in passiflora anyway.  never knew they had curative powers except for a sleep aid.  nyquill had harmalins in it for a while then took them out for unknown reasons.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 1,767
    edited April 2014

    MINI1

    I saw a post somewhere you said you were looking to UP your protein (and weight ?)

    this would do it :

    RE: Peanut butter

    Check this out:
    http://www.sharecare.com/health/womens-health/arti...

    (too bad so many kids today seem to be allergic!)

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 187
    edited April 2014

    I've never had a peanut butter allergy that I knew of but my holistic doc did some testing and found that I have a slight sensitivity to PB so told me that while I have the BC I should leave it alone.  I've been eating almond butter instead and even though almonds are not my favorite nut, I love the stuff.  

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 1,767
    edited April 2014

    that while I have the BC I should leave it alone.


    WHY ...while you have BC??/Does BC make allergies more likely to react ? Have you ever had a  reaction to PB?

    Curious

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 187
    edited April 2014

    No Purple, I've never had a reaction that I know of, but eating foods that you're sensitive to can take a toll on your immune system.  It might be a small one but we can nickel and dime ourselves to death so it's best to leave it alone for now.  Besides, I've found I like the almond butter better.  

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 1,767
    edited April 2014

    but eating foods that you're sensitive to can take a toll on your immune system.


    Yep--- I guess all those ' nickels and dimes' can add up. Makes sense. Thanks, Piper. 

  • OncoWarrior
    OncoWarrior Member Posts: 3,326
    edited May 2015

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  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 337
    edited April 2014

    yes.  when i was first grieving after my loss in '07 I ate a lot of sunflower seed butter.  it was so good I finally thought to examine the label more carefully & it had a great deal of sugar in it.

  • OncoWarrior
    OncoWarrior Member Posts: 3,326
    edited May 2015
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  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 337
    edited April 2014

    don't know.  seems high, don't remember the brand I used, it was the only variety which had a sugar content, the almond butter had none so I changed to that.  now I grind my own nuts & seeds in my spice grinder:  pumpkin & sunflower seeds for the zin, pecans, brazil nuts, as I found an organic sourse, need to grind them first as they're so hard, & walnuts.  added organic dried cranberries & the whole bunch of stuff to oatmeal in the mornings

  • melissadallas
    melissadallas Member Posts: 929
    edited April 2014

    Oncowarrior, 3 grams is about 3/4 tsp. of sugar. A tsp of sugar is 4.2 grams.