Ringworm drug for dogs (Fenbendazole) might also cure cancer

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  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    I love the one of the forest floor!

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    yeah...Santa...especially those miniature pink flowers...life goes on in between dead leaves and packed gravel...

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Ok...so the MO just called. There is nothing new..THANK YOU LORD JESUS...however the uptake on the 3 tumors that showed in the liver went up. She said she wasn't really concerned about the uptake but it that it definitely looks like progression based on that there is a new lesion and the fact that my hip and sacrum are hurting again like before I started the Ibrance/Let/Faslodex....

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Nicole, so...does it mean she'll be changing your treatment? That's too bad...there will always be progression and yours is not major...pain I’m finding out doesn’t mean anything really, it’s par for the course....

    I hope she's not moving too quickly to a new treatment...you have not been on that trio for that long, BUT, we all have to basically follow our doctor's directions....hopefully the next TX will reduce the cancer load...I hope that for you...

  • simone60
    simone60 Member Posts: 952

    That's beautiful Frisky. We moved from the midwest to the southwest over a year ago. One thing I miss is the color and crisp air of fall.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    yes Simone, it's the perfect time to be here, before the trees branches get bare and it's too cold...

    I'm also listening to the audiobook of Becoming by Michelle Obama, and her honest recount of a chunk of our history is so beautiful and overwhelming, I find myself crying a lot at her humility, sincerity, and uplifted by her emotional intelligent storytelling...what a great First Lady we all had....

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Thanks Frisky. Well like I said I think in my case it is a combination of things...

    1) the fact that there is a whole new lesion

    2) all the previous lesions have grown

    3) all the previous lesions had less uptake

    and 4) My pain and skin condition when completely away and stayed away from 1 month in on those meds until the dose was reduced....

    I am by all means not an expert...far from it..but I feel it is progression...mild right now yes..but again I have (like you) a Grade 3 cancer...do I want to keep waiting taking a medicine that I clearly am having growth on? I don't think I want to take that chance right now. However, if I was on those meds and felt exactly the same from the beginning to now..I might consider it but it definitely healed my skin condition pain completely was gone...and all tumors clearly shrunk...the one in the sacrum was almost completely resolved..did I mention (I think I forgot sorry) that one is not only back but bigger too...not just the liver ones :(

    I got my appt moved up with a consult with a new MO...she seems to be good and use to work at GWU. That will be this Thursday so I am interested to see what she says.

    Nicole

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Nicole, I believe that we know our bodies better than any test out there, although I've been wrong figuring mine at times, but if your guts tell you it's time to move on, that the TX is no longer working, than that's that! It's great you have another doctor's appointment to confirm what your body is telling you.

  • olma61
    olma61 Member Posts: 1,026

    Frisky, what beautiful photos, both your autumn foliage and your beautiful niece's wedding! It's awesome and calming to be able to enjoy nature when we can, isn't it?

    Nicole, best of luck in finding the right path for you. Keep exploring all the options, I can't give very specific feedback or options since I'm a HER2+ w/ bone mets, but I do think exploring the local therapy (ablation) is a good move. Praying that your PET went well. xo

  • mysticalcity
    mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

    Is anyone doing Manuka Honey as part of their regimen?


    Honey as a Potential Natural Anticancer Agent: A Review of Its Mechanisms

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3865795/

    The main treatment for cancer is by using chemotherapy and radiotherapy which themselves are toxic to other viable cells of the body. Recently, there are many studies focusing on the use of natural products for cancer prevention and treatment. Of these natural products, honey has been extensively researched. The mechanism of the anti-cancer activity of honey as chemopreventive and therapeutic agent has not been completely understood. The possible mechanisms are due to its apoptotic, antiproliferative, antitumor necrosis factor (anti-TNF), antioxidant, anti-inflammatory, estrogenic and immunomodulatory activities.

    Evidence is growing that honey may have the potential to be anticancer agent through several mechanisms (Figure 3). Though the full mechanism is yet to be fully understood, studies have shown that honey has anticancer effect through its interference with multiple cell-signaling pathways, such as inducing apoptosis, antiproliferative, anti-inflammatory, and antimutagenic pathways. Honey modulates the body immune system. There are still many unanswered questions; why sugar is carcinogenic, while honey which is basically sugar has anticarcinogenic properties. Honey of different floral sources may give different effects.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    I have actually used manuka honey as a topical antiseptic. How happy I would be to consume a jar of honey a day. I love honey! I think Manuka is specifically from one area in Australia, which must have certain specific plants that the bees use...

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    In fact there is a very popular remedy against cancer in South America that involves honey, aloe vera and any kind of ron, I think. It was discovered and popularized by a Brazilian friar

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Dear Olma, I agree nature is the natural tranquilizer...I saw the most amazing sunset this evening...amazing color formations that filled me with a renewed love for life...

  • mysticalcity
    mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

    Yndorian1 Thank you! Found it!

    Chapters include information on how to prepare the recipe using the three ingredients of whole leaf Aloe arborescens juice, honey, and a small amount of distillate (1%); how to take the preparation; questions and answers on everything from how to pick the aloe leaves, why each of the three ingredients is important in the recipe, the types of cancer that have been cured using the recipe, other diseases and health problems the recipe has shown to be beneficial in helping the human body solve; the internationalization of the recipe on five continents; anecdotal stories of some body healings; the composition of Aloe; and Aloe and AIDS. There has been much publicized scientific research and literature on the synergistic benefits of the three hundred phytotherapeutic biochemical and nutrient constituents of Aloe vera to aid the body's defenses to enhance the immune system and protect against diseases. However, this is the first book to reveal the little-known potency.

    https://www.authorhouse.com/en-gb/bookstore/bookdetails/706588-cancer-can-be-cured

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/098198990X/ref=olp_f_usedLikeNew?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=&f_new=true&f_usedLikeNew=true

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Mysticalcity; you don't need to buy the e book, the recipe is this:

    1/2 kg of very pure organic honey

    3 aloe vera leaves measuring 35 cm approx. each one (they must come from a plant of more than 5 years)

    1 oz of rum or similar

    Do not wash the leaves, just remove the soil with a damp cloth. Remove the spiny edges with a sharp knife. Cut into pieces (with shell included) and liquefy together with the honey and rum. Put the preparation in a dark glass bottle, in the fridge (preserve it of light)

    Take 1 tablespoon 15 minutes before breakfast, 1 tb 15 min. before lunch and 1 tb 15 min. before dinner, during 15 days, rest for 1 week and then again until you get results. This is the way it is consumed here.

    Thanks to your post about honey I have remembered this great remedy. I think I'll prepare it one of these days

  • bsandra
    bsandra Member Posts: 1,031

    Dear Nicole, thanks god progression is minimal. I am always for more aggressive treatments because we see there are cures/super-long-remissions in metastatic setting (in any cancer). I urge everyone to start believing this too because facts show it is possible, however rare, but more cases are coming with every year. My understanding is simple: higher tumor load = more mutations = more resistance. Doctors have always try to cure, so they always must look for ways to improve situation. We on our own should try something complementary. I believe that a combination of some antiestrogen/CDK-inhibitor+chemotherapy+FenBen/COC can make a huge difference for you, especially when you are chemo/many other drugs naive. This all you should discuss with your MO, of course, but please do not forget how you feel about their decisions, not follow them blindly, double-check, advocate for yourself. Sincerest wishes, Saulius

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Great advice Saulius, and my 5 cents: we have learned these days that ivermectin sensitizes again cells that have become resistant to treatments

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Thanks Saulius. Yes I agree about inhibitor+chemotherapy+FenBen/COC I don't know if they will want to do a inhibitor right now or go to that after chemo..etc... I am interested to see what she says tomorrow (the new MO)

  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,835

    Frisky, beautiful pictures and colors. We don't have too much color here, mostly just yellow.

    Nicole, not the best report, but not the worst either. Good luck with new MO.

  • mysticalcity
    mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

    Thank you Ynodorian1 for the recipe! I'm going to start the regimen myself.

  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,835

    I don't have an aloe plant and how would one know how old a plant is if one is purchased?

    Would this work https://www.walmart.com/ip/Fruit-of-the-Earth-Aloe...

    See the source image

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Goldie, you might want to look for a large aloe Veraplant with stalks that are thick and therefore juicy...

    One more day in the country and than back to the city to meet my new Mo...that will offer nothing different from my old one...

    I’ve been debating if I should come out and tell her that I’m doing the COC protocol, but I suspect that it won’t sit well, and will jeopardize the fragile relationship from the get go...

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    frisky good luck tomorrow..I have my appt eith new MO as well tomorrow. I am not going to mention COC yet since I didnt start the whole thing yet but may mention some of the supplements.

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Hello friends! Sorry I have not been posting but...……...I feel like I died but no one told me body. Miserable....Unbearable fatigue that seems to be getting worse by the day, the headaches are becoming more constant, chemo brain, dizzy (but not often) finding it hard to catch my breath after very little activity, trouble concentrating, memory is awful, talking and can't find the words, or forgetting what I was talking about, weak legs, blurry vision after I've been reading for a little while.


    I didn't feel this bad on IVtaxol. But I don't think it's the Zeloda because it started a couple of months before I started that TX. All started with just 10 radiation treatments to my spin In June but has gotten progressively worse.

    Question. Could this be radiation build up? I've had a lot. Started in 9/16 with radioactive iodine to destroy my thyroid, and I get bone scans every three months.

    Plus, do you think it's ok to flush my colon on week off Zeloda? (sea salt/water) And is it ok to take Chlorella and beet juice to cleanse my blood?

    I know your not doctors just asking for opinions.

    Thanks so much and I do try to read this thread I just don't usually have energy to even type.

    Love all of you guys

  • husband11
    husband11 Member Posts: 1,287

    I'm wondering if its not solely related to the thyroid procedure. Sorry if I've forgotten what you previously posted, but did you have hyperthyroidism that was treated by radioactive thyroid ablation, or was it thyroid cancer? In either case, I would talk to your physician or endocrinologist about the side effects. Hopefully there is something that can be done to restore your energy levels, like synthroid. Maybe I'm way off, but you need to talk to your physician that performed the thyroid procedure, if you haven't already.

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Snooky, I think if you do not have thyroid and you are not taking replacement hormone, it is very likely that all your symptoms are due to that ...

    Goldie, you can use 2 about 1/2 meter leaves if you get, that's enough guarantee that the plant is several years old. Use the fresh plant, not bottled juice. The correct aloe for this remedy is the fleshy one, not the curly one

    Frisky: Good luck with your new MO tomorrow ... If I were you, I wouldn't tell her everything from the beginning ... I would sweeten her a bit first. Remember: More flies are caught with honey than with gall 😊

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    yes Sonia, I'm gonna behave tomorrow...there's no point spilling the beans right now...and getting on the wrong side of her goodwill...

    Does anyone know if invermectin and fenbendazole are compatible? I'll be ready to experiment after my infusion I think...

    I’m currently taking 4gm of FZ 5days a week and I’m not experiencing any SE...

  • husband11
    husband11 Member Posts: 1,287

    Ivermectin is sold in a pill combining it with albendazole. 12mg ivermectin and 400 mg of albendazole. I would think albendazole would have some common ground with fenbendazole, as they are both benzimidazoles, but its still important to research the differences.

    Edit: So far, I cannot find out whether fenbendazole significantly inhibits any enzyme pathways in humans. There is research showing what drug pathways it is metabolized by, but nothing showing whether it inhibits such pathways.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    thank you Husband, I guess that combo you've mentioned needs a prescription right?

    I have read tons of published mice studies on the effects of FZ on cancer, and the conclusions were that vitamin E had to be present for it to exert a positive result. I believe I posted a link in the first few pages.

    We know that FZ works because many people with different types of cancer are reporting a healing...plus Joe has been cancer free for years...what type of parasite, viruses, and fungi did they predominantly harbored in their guts, is anyone's guest...

    I am convinced and have no longer any doubts—in view of the recent published study in Nature stating that fungi are the cause of pancreatic cancer—that cancer is a systemic fungal infection, which doesn't make it any less dangerous, than cancer as a genetic disorder....

    If it acts, behaves, and spreads like a parasite, than it's a parasite...does it change our DNA? Yes, but that's irrelevant to curing the disease...the current powerful medications work on destroying the dandelions but the roots of the plant keep on spreading and growing under the right conditions...that's the reason the treatments will kill us before the cancer does...it's a sad state of affairs that's not bound to change any time soon...too much money, and too many bruised egos involved...mankind has a long way to go...IMO


  • husband11
    husband11 Member Posts: 1,287

    I suspect in our two countries, with human parasitic infection rates being relatively low, they would be a prescription only drug. The veterinary version of ivermectin however is unregulated in Canada. Perhaps in the US as well? I'd like to find a dry version, to avoid the paraben additive used as a preservative in liquid versions.