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  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 740

    Snooky thanks, I have heard so many good things about it for years so finally going to try it out. The teabags are expensive but there are so many good reviews. I cant wait to try it! I should have it tomorrow or the next day. I'm sure there will be plenty more to add when I get everything sorted. 

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    I notice some supplements are only like 4% MCP and have like 300mg Potassium...and such?

  • JFL
    JFL Member Posts: 1,373

    HLB, nice to hear from you and I am sorry to hear about the ascites and pseudocirrhosis. The ascites must be so uncomfortable. It sounds like the peritoneal drain was a really good idea. I had a call a few weeks ago with the COC and I believe Joanie was the nurse I spoke to as well. Please keep us posted. Did your MO consider chemo for you when you went on Verzenio? I am just curious why the MO settled on Verzenio. Are you taking it alone?

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Nicole: In your pockets for good results for you today! ❤❤❤

  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,835

    Nicole, I think all of us are in your pocket today praying for good results.

    HLB, I'm sorry for what you are going through, but hopefully it will bring you relief. Of course I know you and JLB from the Xeloda thread. As for the Verzinio, that is going to be my next treatment but my onc want to include Faslodex with it. How is it as far as SE?

    Going to be getting cold here at night later this week. Down into the 20's!
    Sonya, was looking at "active" topics and saw you had posted in a radiation thread, however I must have been there before and it started me where I left off and I noticed a post about Eeyore, Piglet and Pooh and just thought it reminded me of so many of us here.

    It occurred to Pooh and Piglet that they hadn't heard from Eeyore for several days, so they put on their hats and coats and trotted across the Hundred Acre Wood to Eeyore's stick house. Inside the house was Eeyore.

    "Hello Eeyore," said Pooh.

    "Hello Pooh. Hello Piglet," said Eeyore, in a Glum Sounding Voice.

    "We just thought we'd check in on you," said Piglet, "because we hadn't heard from you, and so we wanted to know if you were okay."

    Eeyore was silent for a moment. "Am I okay?" he asked, eventually. "Well, I don't know, to be honest. Are any of us really okay? That's what I ask myself. All I can tell you, Pooh and Piglet, is that right now I feel really rather Sad, and Alone, and Not Much Fun To Be Around At All. Which is why I haven't bothered you. Because you wouldn't want to waste your time hanging out with someone who is Sad, and Alone, and Not Much Fun To Be Around At All, would you now."

    Pooh looked and Piglet, and Piglet looked at Pooh, and they both sat down, one on either side of Eeyore in his stick house.

    Eeyore looked at them in surprise. "What are you doing?"

    "We're sitting here with you," said Pooh, "because we are your friends. And true friends don't care if someone is feeling Sad, or Alone, or Not Much Fun To Be Around At All. True friends are there for you anyway. And so here we are."

    "Oh," said Eeyore. "Oh."

    And the three of them sat there in silence, and while Pooh and Piglet said nothing at all; somehow, almost imperceptibly, Eeyore started to feel a very tiny little bit better.
    Because Pooh and Piglet were There. No more; no less.


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  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Gooldie, you are so sweet. That is a very touching story, isn'n it?

    HLB: I'm sorry to hear about your ascitis... There is homeopathy for ascites, I don't know if you believe in homeopathy, but I've had very good results with it for some things ... and it can't hurt. If you want to give it a try, you can search for Banerji protocols, they have a list of ainments, find ascites. If you have any doubt, feel free to PM me. I hope you get well soon ❤

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Nichole, I'm so sorry, I forgot to wish you GREAT results on your Pet Scan. I'm sure it will lead your ONC to the best plan for you. BIG HUGS

    (I'm starting to become very forgetful, it's disconcerting)

  • simone60
    simone60 Member Posts: 952

    Goldie,

    What a sweet story. It reminds me of everyone here.

    Regarding Verzinio and Fasoldex. I don't know what the SE s are but I have read several articles about how well\long that combo works.

  • husband11
    husband11 Member Posts: 1,287

    My wife, who has / had both discrete mets in her liver, and diffuse mets in another lobe of her liver, had both psuedocirrosis before and after treatment with xeloda. As soon as she started on the xeloda, she got really bad ascites. We on our own, lowered the dosage and switched to one week on and one week off. Eventually, sticking to the xeloda treatment, by the grace of God, her ascites went away. I note from the numerous MRI's that she received, that one hepatic vein (and there are two streams) was completely closed off, and the other was partially blocked. That has never gone away, but her ascites did. She also go a port to drain at home. That has now been removed. At one time we were draining close to a gallon in less than a week. They put her on blood thinners and diuretics. Unfortunately the blood thinners causes significant hair loss, so she eventually quit them. We prayed for a miracle when she got the ascites, as one Doctor told her to go home and await death. God blessed us with a miracle. That was two years ago. After a year on xeloda, which really hammered back the mets, but its really hard to visualize as her liver is so scarred up, she switched to ibrance and letrozole. We hope the xeloda, as it was working when she quit it, will work again if she needs to switch away from ibrance / letrozole.

    I have a somewhat cautious observation that when she took oil of oregano during her week off xeloda, it caused further drops in the tumor markers, having quit and restarted the oil of oregano several times and observed what appeared to be a correlation. But oil of oregano is extremely powerful, and will interfere with the metabolism of many drugs, so she no longer takes it as she no longer has any time off treatment. She started the oil of oregano, not as an anti cancer agent, but because the Doctor misdiagnosed her ascites as gas.

  • mysticalcity
    mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

    Nicole--I just started taking Citrus Pectin. Brand name: PectaSol-C (same brand as Santabarbarian)--as quite a few on Jane McLelland's Repurposed Drugs Facebook group are taking it--especially for breast cancer, but others are also for other cancers. Here is a link about it from that page to a study on citrus pectin: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782490/?fbclid=IwAR3IV9w0puc657sdIyqLrtbjme5fbrntkygB5KW-WTenyUfwPFUmLGiPyMw

    and some more info on it from that naturopathic doctor newsletter I get:

    https://www.connersclinic.com/point-4-for-cancer-success/

    Lastly, found this on dosing from another site--it is same dose recommended in above link: "If you are considering adding Modified Citrus Pectin to your cancer health protocol, experts typically recommend a dose of 1 teaspoon (5 g) three times a day at minimum, although higher doses have not been known to cause side effects." This is the dose I am taking, but I just started taking it.

    Tucking everyone here, but especially Nicole and HLB, into prayers of my rosary today--it's Feast of Our Lady of Rosary.


  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Husband, Sorry, I don't know if I understood well your post. Did you deduce that oregano oil may have been helpful for cancer, based on your wife's tm? I asking this because I take it sometimes to keep my systemic candidiasis "relatively" under control ...how and how many drops did she take per day?

  • husband11
    husband11 Member Posts: 1,287

    Yndorian, its highly speculative on my part, but I saw a correlation between her taking oil of oregano and her dropping tumor markers. She quit taking it and the tumor markers quit dropping, she re-started after a couple of months off it, and they started to drop again. It could be purely coincidence.

    However, when I looked into the possible influence of oregano on cancer, there is some research suggesting it might kill cancer cells.

    Its vital to not take oil of oregano while taking any medicine it might interfere with. Oil of Oregano is a strong inhibitor of cyp2c9 and cyp3a4 which is a common pathway for drug metabolism.

    As for dosage, she took 20-30 drops each day (during the week she was off xeloda) that were placed in a gelatin capsule. I'm going to look for my old post because it recorded the exact details and my memory isn't great on the amount and brand. I'll post an update when I dig it up.

    There is research showing that at least in animals, oil of oregano is anti cancer. But I warn anyone that it must be taken alone in most cases because of its propensity to interfere with drug metabolism.

    Here is my original post on the observation. It was 10 drops, 3 times a day, in gelatin capsules.


    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/79/topics...

    Here's a link to research where they fed dried oregano to rats with human breast cancer implanted, and it reduced the cancer by 50%


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26907089

    Some recent research on extracts of marjoram on breast cancer cells:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30210537

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Thank you Husband, Dr. Hulda Clark highly recommended oregano oil to kill a bacteria that, according to her, was in all types of cancers, she found the parasite Fasciola Burskii too (which, by chance, is killed by fenbendazole ...🤔) I am tying ends , it makes me sense ... Thank you!

  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 740

    Hi JFL, idk why she decided on Verzenio because I think I should have had a strong and fast acting chemo to get things at least stabilized. I am taking it with anastrozol. No SE that I am aware of. Supposed to cause severe D but as usual I only have constipation. Husband I remember your wife's ascites problem very well and how bad it was at the time. Just hoping for the Verzenio to kick in and make the ascites gradually less til it goes away. Thanks to everyone for the well wishes. I will look into the homeopathy for ascites. Thank you very much for that. 

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Sonia, I started reading about Hula Clarke a couple of years ago. - before cancer. I thought she was brilliant, as did the FDA since they hounded her. I even ordered her small "zapper" My highly intelligent, high school son, (he was very scientific) Saw it one day. What the heck is that? He laughed so hard and made such fun of me "falling for any scam" that I threw the damn thing away. lol But it makes so much sense why can't we kill extremely small bacteria, virus and parasites with low dose electricity?

    Any way, here's a website that maybe you don't know about. You can even download a couple of her books for free. Enjoy.

    https://www.frequencyrising.com/DrHuldaClark.htm

    S

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Snooky, yes, I've read a lot about what Dr. Clark said, and it had sense to me too. I also have the zapper! it just I'm a little lazy to use it every day... but I remember that she was the first to talk about parasites, viruses and bacteria related to cancer, and here we are taking dewormings and antibiotics to cure cancer ... I think she was so persecuted and slandered because she was "shaking" the FDA. I think that when the FDA takes so much work to go against someone it is because that person is dangerous to their business. Something similar is happening right now in Spain with Josep Pamies and stevia, kalanchoes and artemisa (all anti-cancer plants)...

    I'd just ordered my oregano oil, I'll take it again...

    What is with Frisky? She wasn't be arround for a while...

  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    Yeah, was wondering about Frisky too.

    I took artemisa for about three months with numerous other supplements, but it got so expensive.

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    I will cross post in Livermets and Ibrance threads for those that do not frequent this thread

    Ok alll I didn't get the results...yup if you can believe it..they didn't read it yet...but I have some news. The oncologist said she did look at the PET and she looked at it next to my last PET Aug 2019 she said she didn't see any new spots but was quick to follow with "I am NOT a radiologist"...hopefully she will call tomorrow with the results.

    She did mention that the 3 tumors in liver that were seen back in May on MRI were not too much different now to this MRI, cannot compare Aug 2019 PET to OCT 2019 MRI you have to compare PET to PET and MRI to MRI. However we still have a new very tiny tumor .6cm so either this grew after May...or was not seen on MRI in May. In addition the MRI had picked up the met that on the PET in AUG was "almost completely resolved" in the sacrum..I KNEW this one was back because I have been for the last 3 weeks having pain there again.

    We talked about Ibrance/Let/Faslodex not working...unfortunately there is no test to see which one of those failed. She wasn't too familiar with doing like Chemo or something and then going back to those kinds (I/L/Faslodex) of drugs again *Cure-ious* I even read your words to her verbatim but she said she has not had a patient yet that went from those, to chemo then back to those. ??? Again to me, she is young..been an MO for like 7 or 8 years I think...so maybe she doesn't know> that worries me.

    We discussed Verenzio>spelling sorry... *cure-ious she did agree that is a mono therapy but stressed that she didn't see a point in going to that right now since I/L/Faslodex failed. She said if I would have been on Ibrance/Letrozole...then she might suggest Verenzio/Faslodex now but...since I did Faslodex already didn't see the point. anyway moving on..

    1) I asked if we could do a blood test to check for the P13K gene..she has heard of that but never ordered one so she is looking into it and will let me know where/how we do that.

    2) The 2 treatment plan we discussed were: Aromasin/Afinitor or doing Xoleda. She said the thing about A/A would be that it would take a few months or more to know if it is working. I said "If I had bone mets only I wouldn't mind as much waiting to see if it can work...but since there is liver involvement and since there was already a new lesion formed while on the I/L/Faslodex...I don't think that I want to do that one". She understood completely about that. We talked about the Xoleda...and my concerns..she told me her biggest SE she hears on that is hand and foot syndrome> blisters, redness, raw...etc.. I told her that either way I do not want to make a decision on a treatment until I have the consult with the Interventional Radiologist at John Hopkins..and that I am wanting Cryoblation. (I just found out that appointment is next week Thursday late afternoon). She said ok to wait but doesn't want to wait longer than 2 weeks (if possible).

    I am wondering if the radiologist can take a biopsy if he goes in to do the cryoblation? Definitely something I am going to ask. She is also having me see a radiologist about the met in the sacrum.

    So I should have the PET results hopefully tomorrow. I welcome any and all input you all might have.....especially about the treatments etc. Oh I started prepping her for seeing my numbers change on blood work and told her I am taking Berberine, ALA and may add in the MCP..... but didn't tell her about fenben...

    PS: I also had, had a consult set up also happens to be next thursday with a new MO...I really really like the one I have but ...it's a little far and I feel like this other one has more experience..not much..but more.


    I felt you all in my pocket literally!

    Nicole

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Nicole, I don't know what to tell you, I have no experience with any of the drugs you mention but I'm sure someone who can advise you with knowledge will soon jump here. I think a second opinion, and eventually a change of MO seems like a good idea. Looking on the bright side, if you are going to spend some time without treatment you can take fenben every day without worrying about the interactions ... maybe you can shrink enough the liver mets to make easier that cryoablation.. I think the fact that you are not doing any conventional treatment at this time does not mean that you are not "treating" your disease ... you are using the protocols (or you can start using them immediately)

  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,835

    Nicole, so much to take in, I don't know what I would do. Xeloda has had some positive on those with liver mets, and others not. You have had lots of scans lately and I hope they can figure out a treatment for you. As for the Faslodex and your onc not wanting to use it, as it failed you before. It failed me too before, but my onc doesn't have a problem with using it in conjunction with the Verzineo. He says he has seen good results the two, altho new. And like he always tells me, it's my ship and I'm the captain. Remember, this is YOUR body and YOUR rules...if you so choose.

    Still hoping for good results for you.....huggles!

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    hi all, I'm out of the city and in the mountains. Enjoying the breathtaking views of the colored fall leaves...nature is just magnificent...I will try to take some pictures tomorrow..

    We saw a family of turkeys and some bambies roaming around the property this afternoon..it was lovely

    My niece Rosa got married in Italy this weekend, and although I couldn't be there physically, I was celebrating with them in spirit....

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    Nicole, I hope the pet results show no changes...

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Thanks Frisky :) Your niece is BEAUTIFUL!!!!! Wow gorgeous pictures! May God bless them with a lots of love, good health and happiness :)

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Frisky, I'm glad you're having some beautiful days in the middle of nature ... sorry for disturbing your peace asking you to report! 😊

    Your niece Rosa is beautiful!


  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Sonia, It's my pleasure to share the other aspects of my life with you all...we're like family and best friends now...we're all united by unforeseen yet all too human circumstances...

    My niece is professor of psychology at 2 universities, she met a wonderful men after some disastrous relationships. We are all so very happy for both of them...it's like a fairytale

    This is Angelo her husband...in a few days they will be having their honeymoon in Japan...where they will visit 5 or 6 cities...


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  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,835

    Frisky, glad you are out and about and enjoying life! What a beautiful couple and wedding. Congrats to them.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    thank you Husband, Goldie, Nicole, Sonia et all...

  • simone60
    simone60 Member Posts: 952

    Frisky,

    Your niece is Beautiful! Congrats to them both.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Thanks Simone! Here's some views of the fall leaves...and grounds...

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  • husband11
    husband11 Member Posts: 1,287

    That is so beautiful Frisky!