Ringworm drug for dogs (Fenbendazole) might also cure cancer

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  • snooky1954
    snooky1954 Member Posts: 850

    hey Sonia, Check this out Hula's been vindicated! The link is about a drug known to kill tapeworms, also kills cancer.

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/fda-approve...

    and some more recent research

    https://jitc.biomedcentral.com/.../10.1186/s40425-019-0733-7

  • mysticalcity
    mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

    Yndorian1 and Snooky--thanks for all the very good info! Have a great night.

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Snooky, great information! Another great remedy to consider and rotate to not create resistance ... don't you think? What a great team we really are...

    I know there are many people in this thread who believe that there is no relationship between cancer and parasites but the coincidences are already being too many ...I mean fenben, diclosamida, ivermectina, mebendazol, artemisina (proof remedy for malarya parasites) oregano oil and a large etc. Virtually everything that has an antiparasitic effect has an anticancer effect ... A few days ago I was comparing a microscopic photo of a parasitization called philiarasis (which cures ivermectin) with a microscopic photo of mucinous cells of bc. They are practically the same! In addition, the greater uptake of sugar by cancer cells also reminds me of the behavior of a parasite, as well as the greater uptake of iron ... That also explains that people who follow different feeding styles get cancer ... parasite eggs are everywhere! You only need to have a low immune system and bingo! Low levels of hydrochloric acid make the eggs do not disintegrate in the stomach, and pass whole to the intestine, and from there we all know how the matter continues. Another thing that I have always wondered in relation to metastases is ... why would a cell, even if it is a cancer one, simply leave a tumor to travel elsewhere? Has no sense. If it is a parasite, it makes sense, because it is dragged by the blood or lymphatic torrent ... Ok, that's enought for today. Good night fellows

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    dear Husband, thank you so much for posting such an uplifting story, I needed that!

    ...we're all on the right track. I believe that soon it will be our own stories that will cheer and provide hope to other people...

    Back to the city...unpacked and good to go....

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Hi Ladies...this will be a bit long...but I "think" most of you will be happy for David and I and I wanted to share with you all how the appointment went today.

    The Lord has answered another one of our prayers. WE LOVE HER!!!!!! OMGOSH SHE WAS AMAZING!!!

    When we were waiting for her in the office they send in a massage therapist.she asked if I was stressed..form 1 - 10 I say...well like a 7...my husband looks at her and says...10...she did this like pressure work on me it was soooo relaxing. Then the doctor came in she spend almost 2 hours with us. We closed the office down.lol Seriously everyone but her nurse left for the day. So as far as Ibrance/Let/Faslodex..she was NOT surprised that my MO in NY had me all three...(that surprised me) she actually thought that was very good. She mentioned that as far as those 3 drugs go, it is not that one of those failed. They ALL failed. Yes, she explained that even if one of those would have been working then we would not have see the tumors progress the way they did and especially not in such a short time frame. She also confirmed what I thought...that all of that (the growth of existing tumors plus new tumor), coupled with the fact that I had my skin condition back and pain back in hip and sacrum it is definitely progression.

    She does not want to do any more AI's right now. She did say that maybe in the future that can be revisited..but definitely not now. I told her about my appointment with the IR next Thursday and the Cryoblation I would like. She is all for cryoblation but maybe not just yet. Her concern is that if he cryoblates 1 or 2 tumors then I will need a period of rest (the liver) and being off all treatment at that point would be like a month because I am already off now a week...she worries that more tumors will pop up especially since I had a whole new tumor grow in the liver in only a few months. She wants me to keep the appointment with him, she wants to see what he thinks. She has a feeling he is going to agree that I should get to a point where I am little more stable first, then do that but she still was all for getting his opinion. If he thinks I should do it now she wants me to ask him about getting a biopsy while he is in there this way we can get another new Foundation One report. She also talks about the blood biopsy for the P13K. She said that my foundation one did test for that and it wasn't there, however it could have mutated now BUT the treatment is that piquay>spelling) drug combined with faslodex...and I already failed on Faslodex so she doesn't really see the point in going to that first but she will see about getting the biopsy. Then she told us something that neither of my other 2 MO's told us. On my foundation one report a few of my cancers mutations is sensitive to 3 Kidney Cancer drugs!! She said this is where trials come in. She said "ya see I can't just prescribe you these drugs ya know why???, because you're insurance company would say NOPE! BUT, there are trials and 2 in particular that you would fit into and they both explore using drugs that are meant for treating other cancers but that your cancer can respond well too".... I then told her about the trial I heard about on here today CAR-T..(it's along the lines of immunotherapy kind of trial).she took my phone looked at what CURE-IOUS wrote about it..and wrote the trial down. She said she is going to look at the trial get more information on it then next Thursday when she meets with the Tumor Board next Thursday she will get there thoughts as well. Again...she mentioned that she doesn't necessarily want to delay my treatment to put me in a trial yet. We agreed.

    Basically her main 1st line attack plan would be Chemo for me and especially with the type of cancer I have and with the way it is behaving. It would most definitely be Xeolda. She said that would be a good one to start with. Then a pretty big thing happened...I told her how my whole life my bilirubin had run a little high and that i was told I have Gilberts Disease. She starts looking at all my past blood work...she says.."ah yes definitely gilberts disease and you know what causes bilirubin to elevate stress....." The only thing I forgot to tell her and also want to mention to you all and ask for your advice and help. Every time I eat anything..even just drink a healthy green smoothie with greens and a piece of apple or pear...and carrot... Little while later I can't breath through my nose...no mucus..just inflamed!!! NO MATTER WHAT I EAT healthy , not healthy...I don't understand how that can be and it happens even sometimes when I don't eat. I take claritan D everyday and it still happens so I know its not mucus it literally will feel swollen??? My husband thinks its stress casuing inflammation and I do not doubt that..and I want to get the Ashwanda> spelling..ya know that supplement but I heard its not all that great for really relieving stress....Does anyone have any other ideas?? I am a freakin stress ball my whole life...I have tried meditation..I can't sit like that my mind is always going lol...

    Also I know I should have told her about the inflammation so maybe she could prescribe something right? My blood pressure was a little low though? Any suggestions you all have I WELCOME!! I was thinking CBD?.

    When we were leaving she goes "Ok so you go to the IR Thrusday I will research all these trials , tests etc and go to meet with my Tumor Board Thursday and we will meet up here Friday and have a treatment plan to start!" I was like WOW.. I felt hopeful when I left there! Last but not least..thank you all for caring about me...for making me feel that I matter...for answering all my questions..for hugging me and being in my pocket and for covering me with prayer. I am so grateful. AMEN!

    Totally forgot she said I NEED TO GAIN WEIGHT.... I was at 93 lbs. fully dressed with boots...even though I am petite..she said I need more weight on ..and she wants me very strong before treatment..to be honest..I am eating really clean..but I don't feel GREAT....at all. I feel good..but not great. So I will have to add in a little carbs I think.

    Cross posted to reach all my buddies on here :)

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    Cancer combines parasitic behavior with an added twist: recruitment of healthy cells. That why it's more complex than a parasite. It not only consumes the host but also converts the host's healthy cells into fellow cancer cells.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    Nicole I have an idea re stress. There is something called Neuroptimal-- it's Neurofeedback, It helps to calm the brain and make it less easily revved. It's only apx 6-8 sessions to feel a difference. ~20-30 sessions is full course of treatment. Very fast. I did it from more of curiostiy and research but I found it helped my sleep incredibly, made me much more patient, and did me a lot of good. That might help and is effortless... you just listen to music and watch a screen.

    Re weight... look at avocado, coconut, olive and all those healthy veggie fats.

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Thanks Santa I do use Coconut Oil and EVO I eat avadados like 3 times a week... I guess I ll try to eat them more. Its weird I just get periods throughout the day where I can tell I am inflamed..in my nasal passages..then it goes away..comes ...goes...

  • husband11
    husband11 Member Posts: 1,287

    Note that it is aloe aborescens, and not aloe vera. There may be differences. The aborescens seems to have more of certain substances, and more of a folk history as a cure for diseases.

  • simone60
    simone60 Member Posts: 952

    Nicole,

    Sounds like you found a good MO and she is putting together a good plan for you.



  • husband11
    husband11 Member Posts: 1,287

    Nicole, just read your post. I am so happy to hear that you have an oncologist who really listens and cares. Great things are going to happen.

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Thanks Husband and Simone :) It's crazy how important today was...I literally felt like I had a scan that said NED LOL ...I even had some bread at dinner with Extra Virgin Olive oil dip to celebrate..lol :)

  • mike3121
    mike3121 Member Posts: 280

    I don't know what to think of this. My wife, back in Feb was given 3 months off of Halaven chemo due to such a good response (two NED PET scans). At the end of the 3 months the cancer came back. She was then given about 2 to 3 Halaven infusions. Suddenly in May she had several seizures; the cancer had gone to her brain. Next came a brain operation to remove a portion of her dura (brain lining). Then 11 days of whole brain radiation. She started back up with Halaven but only got 2 to 3 infusions in before her health fell apart.

    My point is my wife had probably only 6 Halaven infusions since February and, according to her latest PET scan, which showed some progression yet a lot of cancer in retreat. During this period she had maybe 4 weeks of FenBen. Why not massive progression from TNBC? Maybe it was the FenBen working that caused this 50-50 situation on the PET scan. I'd sure like to think so.

    She's in a bad way but since she has a very high PDL-1 score she's to have the new Tecentrig Immunology. She's horribly alergic to Taxol so they are going to try a different chemo with the Tecentrig.

  • bsandra
    bsandra Member Posts: 1,031

    Uh, so much is happening here...

    Dear Nicole, getting a good MO is a half-job done. Keep us updated.

    Dear Frisky, your scans this time should be very exciting (and scary, like always) but if you feel something good happening to you, they must be... good! When will they happen exactly?

    Dear Mike, are there any indications showing your wife cannot continue with FenBen? What if to add CBD, curcumin and VitE? Or first you want to try Tecentriq alone?

    Saulius

  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,835

    Such a busy group, hard to keep up!

    Frisky, sorry you have to go home, but you'll be bock!

    Snooky, I think you are waiting on scan reports.

    Nicole, so happy that you are happy with the new MO.

    Mike, I'm so sorry to hear about your wife, hoping the FZ will help.

    Sonya, how are you doing?

    Sorry for not replying to everyone. So the Aloe to get is not aloe vera? I am having labs today, results tomorrow, needless to say very nervous as my TM's have been jumping pretty rapidly. Onc on Monday and flying out Tuesday, back on the 22nd. A chilly 19 degrees here this morning in northern Arizona!!!!

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Santa, I think exactly the same. Parasites enter the cell and make it carcinogenic (they make a habitat to survive and then reproduce). That also explains the theory that says there are no metastases, but new tumors. A liver cancer cell will not be released to travel to the lung, it makes no sense, but small parasites travel through the blood and lymphatic stream and can nest anywhere they find the necessary conditions. It is no neccesary saying here that the immune system is crucial ...


  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311

    To my mind a huge factor is how the "terrain" of the body can be made more or less hospitable to cancer. Western diets full of processed and non-nutritive foods create conditions for inflammation, insulin resistance, and fermentation... which allow cancer to arise.

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    good explanation Sonia, the truth is that these creatures change and camouflage themselves. The people analyzing cancer cells would have never studied or seen what a bacterial, viral, or fungal infestation looks like, never mind after the fuckers have infiltrated and camouflaged themselves in our cells.
    Lack of energy and activities, a suppressed immune system, immobility due to pains and weakness set the table for various type of parasites to feast on us, till uncontrollable SE, sepsis, an infection, or an heart attack finishes us off...

    Some chemos, complimentary protocols, herbal supplements, etc etc make the feeding grounds less appetazing, and hopefully starves the little fuckers....but it's an ongoing battle since they can regroup and use other pathways to move to better pastures...

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Okay folks, like Nicole, I LOVE ❤️ ❤️❤️❤️❤️ my new MO. She is intelligent, prepared, and conscious of the limits of the established treatments...so, the moral of the story— for those of you out there that are unhappy with your current MO—is to Not hesitate to change doctors if the current one is an asshl....

    So....she looked at the diminishing tumor markers from 3 weeks ago, and my overall health, and agreed that Doxil is working, thus, I will continue getting infusions, but every 4 weeks instead of every three weeks....which I really appreciated.

    Now comes the good part, I felt so understood and supported, I confessed that I was taking off-labels medications to metabolically block various pathways. Again, no signs of disagreement or ridicule on her part. I asked her if someone at MSK was looking at treating BC metabolically and she said that yes, they were. That made me feel good.

    when I told her that at the end of the month I would be rotating to doxycycline, however, she told me that I shouldn't because based on the MSK studies chemo needs bacteria to work...

    What I neglected to tell her was that the month before I had been on doxy and that had been the first time that the TM had started to descend...so now I'm puzzled...to take or not take the doxy....

    I've decided to wait till next week, after I look at the current TM to decide. I'm not sure if the doxy affected the outcome or not, but I still have a few weeks on FZ so I have time to think and strategize.

    No, I didn't mention the FZ yet, because I know I would be taking it anyway, and I don't want to outright lie to her, I'm okay with omitting, lying is all another story...

    As far as pet scans, she's okay with doing them when something changes and needs to be investigated, which is fine with me...so there you have it....Happy cat purring here....

    Oh, one more thing...she scrutinized my medical records and told me something new. I am mildly HER2 positive, so she's going to search and test whatever leftover biopsy material is available to confirm I have at least one receptor. If positive, she will be able to prescribe Kadcyla, something, she thinks I would benefit from....and that MSK is very interested in testing...it's not approved yet by the FDA unless there's at least 1 proven receptor.

  • mysticalcity
    mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

    Nicole-- so happy to hear about your good visit. Holding you close in prayer you develop a GREAT treatment plan with the new MO.

    mike3121--so sorry for your wife's trials--will add her to my prayer list. There are so many people on my Facebook Repurposed Drugs group that believe the FenBen is what has definitely helped them with various stage IV cancers. So I think your assumption about it helping your wife's cancer to retreat may be accurate.

    goldie0827-- it is aloe aborescens, and not aloe vera-- just as Husband11 said. . . and I think there are very distinct differences. I did find this site that supposedly combines the 3 --the correct aloe, the honey and the distillate--according to the friar's recipe and you can buy it online:

    https://www.aloeproductscenter.com/

    Other notes I found about how to make it and store it and what to eat while on it from this site:

    https://sofiajoghee.wordpress.com/2015/04/20/recipe-for-aloe-honey-treatment-against-cancer/

    A brief excerpt:

    "Keep the syrup refrigerated and in the dark.

    VERY IMPORTANT NOTE-When taking several batches in a row, it is necessary to keep an interval of TEN DAYS between the taking of one unit and the following due to the aloe plant being very mildly toxic (as are many plants humans ingest).

    With these intervals of ten days, repeated ingestion of batches will do no harm. As mentioned, this may be used simultaneously with conventional treatments such as chemotherapy or radiation.

    Update: In his books, Father Zago reports on people who take the syrup every day without interruption, apparently without any damage to their health.

    The food you eat and avoid is of vital importance

    Avoid :
    meat, dairy products, refined sugar, artificial colouring, chemicals, sweeteners, white flour, etc.

    Eat plenty of healthy organic foods :
    broccoli, sprouts, cauliflower, kale, garlic, beans, blueberries, onions, ginger, spirulina, chlorella, fresh fruits, etc."

    All--have a blessed weekend!

  • mysticalcity
    mysticalcity Member Posts: 184

    NicoleRod-do you think you have nasal polyps? I do and your symptoms sound like mine. . .I think mine flare based on food allergies. If so I use Qnasl (prescription) nose spray. It is the only thing that works.

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Mystic...I had septum surgery about 4 years ago they did a ct scan I had no polyps...maybe I do now? I have nasonex...I haven't used in a long time maybe I will try it see if it helps...Thanks :)

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Santa: Very true. Barnard said: "The important thing is not the pathogen but the terrain", his counterpart Pasteur said: the important thing is the pathogen. They say (I don't know if it is true) that before died, Pasteur said: "Barnard was right, the important thing is the terrain"

    Nicole and Frisky, I'm glad both of you are happy with your new MOs. Praying for both to succeed with your treatments.

    Today I've done 30/33 rads. I will be very happy when I finish this part of the treatment.

    Happy weekend to all!❤

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Sonia so glad you are almost done!!!

    Frisky so happy you also love your new MO!!! I envy you having the courage to tell her about the off label stuff..even though I have not started all yet...I don't know if I will have the courage..I also envy you that you can tell from tumor markers how things are going...unfortunately I wont be able to do that..mine have not changed since day 1 of diagnosis :(

    BERBERINE & Poop...sorry TMI...I finally went last night...I was off the berberine for a day or 2 can't remember...what I am going to try is this...Take 2 Magnesium Citrate 400mg total in morning with berberine..then at night 400mg MagCitrate bedtime. Take the berberine 3 times a week instead of 7..if I do go and can "go" I will increase to 4 x week and work up to everyday.

    Frisky how long did you do the fenben 3 days on 4 days off before you went to 5 days a week (or is it 7 days a week) you do it? Also in the beginning when you did the 3 days on 4 off you did 1 222mg package/day right?

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Nicole, I started with 3days on 4off 1gm, then 2gm 5 days on 2off, then increased to 4gm 5 days on 2 days off...

    glad you cleared your bowels...nothing like a good bowel movement in the morning...

  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Thanks Frisky and HA HA HA soo true though!!!! I had a green smoothie and my husband was like "have a cup of caffeinated coffee...you'll go....." so I did...and I went .lol

  • goldie0827
    goldie0827 Member Posts: 6,835

    Mystical, thank you for that information, I will check it out. Glad I didn't pick up an aloe vera plant!

    Frisky, you even sound good!!!! So happy you are happy. And I agree, if you don't like your doc...get a new one!

    Sonia, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Do you go on the weekends as well? How is your skin holding up. I ended up with practically 3 degree burns in the end.

    Did my labs today, can see results tomorrow, but may wait until Sunday. I'm scared!

    For Nicole....

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  • nicolerod
    nicolerod Member Posts: 2,877

    Goldie...LOL that is great...yup that was me :)

  • Frisky
    Frisky Member Posts: 1,686

    Goldie, may those labs bring you immense relief and joy!

  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 551

    Goldie: thinking about you and sending good vibes for lower TMs! Now you are doing more proactive things, those TMs should get down!

    Frisky: it seems like your new MO is brilliant, she discovered a her2+... and a new posibility, she reminds me of the phrase in your signature.There are good things happening. Are you still planning to take ivermectin or does this news deserve a change of plans? We should investigate whether ivermectin has an impact on good bacteria ...

    As soon as I heal from the rads I will take the single oral dose, and then follow the fenben protocol for me.

    I am pleasantly surprised with oregano oil, it rescued myself quite quickly from candidiasis attack. I deduce that it has a powerful antifungal action, more than grapefruit seeds oil or turpentine