I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    Interesting. Don't totally agree, but hmmm.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    Lock-step with the orange guy on this.

  • illinoislady
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    The all-time winner of "I told you so" has got to be Hillary Clinton...

    Most certainly and not enough people were listening and voting appropriately in EC states.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    Stupid…

  • illinoislady
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  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 5,316

    Love the Now Hiring meme. CA is the country’s largest agricultural producer and exporter, though folks are often surprised as they don’t think of CA as farm country. Down toward Watsonville, a bit south of Santa Cruz, is strawberry country. Watching people stooped over picking berries in all kinds of weather for pennies is almost heartbreaking . If we think food prices are high now, what do people think will happen to produce prices if all the agricultural workers were legal citizens who would need to be paid minimum wage, have health insurance and all the other perks of legal employment? How about all the vineyard workers in Napa? How much are we willing to pay for fruit, nuts and wine? And I have yet to see US citizens clamoring for those jobs 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    As to California when I first moved there in the very early part of 72' there were so many Avacado and Orange groves and further north were huge vineyards. I also did some special work for a man who owned a fruit farm where he grew the sweetest red grapefruit I ever tasted. Sadly a great many of the orange groves are gone now. Housing and shopping centers needed.

    I lived not far away from a lady who owned land she had leased out for a long, long time to an Orange farmer. She was forced to sell that land. She held out till the last possible minute but then was threatened that the land would be taken if she did not agree to a sale. She had a good lawyer but so did the State. So instead of the beautiful orange trees and the wonderful blossoms each year that dressed the trees, we got Town Houses.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    Divine, I had read something awhile back which indicated that there were a fair amt. of Reps. who were okay with Vance. Now I know exactly why. All in a days work for them it would seem. He can get them something they really, really want.

    Now more than ever I'm hoping he and FG get squashed good.

    I've been wondering about Mitch McConnell (not that he couldn't enjoy a lot of things from a distance) whose health has seemed a number of times to be a little precarious. I had hopes that he might in fact have to retire if the problems he waw undergoing looked like they might continue on. Does his term run till 2026.

    I also thought at one time that it sounded like Moscow Mitch has lost a lot of stature with his group and couldn't get it together with them. Well, I will reread up on him, but for some time I've looked on the man as useless and totally troublesome as so many of the Reps. now are. There seem to be a small few who can still pull it together (thinking James Lankford here) when it seems really necessary but for the most part, they are a worthless bunch who work against you more than anything else.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 5,316

    It is sad when things we cherish change but change is a constant and growing populations need housing and services. Northern CA is not suited to commercial citrus crops but here in the Santa Clara Valley, stone fruits once blossomed where Silicon Valley now thrives on blossoming technology. It used to be called The Valley of the Hearts Delight. I live less than a mile from San Jose City Hall and my neighborhood bordered orchards in the not too distant past. I have mixed feelings about these changes sometimes but I realize you can’t hold onto things that are no longer viable and other things, people, take priority.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    No doubt we would all agree with the sentiment: “There’s more to life than things.” Yet much of our lives seem to be spent in the acquisition, maintenance, and disposal of material goods.  Certainly we cannot enjoy the basics of food, shelter, and clothing without a concern for things. The truly important things of life, however, are those which cannot be encountered by the physical senses, purchased with money, or placed on a shelf. When we take a look at what we value most in life, we generally find family, friends, health, peace, contentment, laughter, helping others, and communion with God foremost on our list of priorities.

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  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    As to the above, I will never quite get this. These people must have some strange block in people able to clearly see where FG is concerned. They are incapable of understanding that he never rides in on the white horse and saves anyone as he is far too interested and invested in himself. These people seem to think despite how he may have treated others, they are somehow a special case perhaps. More WORTHY for some reason than others have been…their loyalty more precious and pronounced.

    Others see that any relationship you have with former guy is quite tenuous and could be quite temporary based on your response to him. Any, even slight perceived disloyalty of any kind is grounds to put you on notice. These people seem like addicts in their behaviors toward the FG. They have to at some point have seen at least some of the writing on the wall. Yet — they march on into their own disaster and personal loss.

    There must be a number of reasons, yet I sure can't think of any good ones. I guess I will always be left to wonder if these people have truly extrapolated completely where they might end up and even why they are willing to take that chance. Is real democracy that abhorrent to them. Does FG really make that much sense. Always left with that nagging question — "how could you"?

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    Another one of the great Reps. doozies. Dear God, please help us get rid of these yo-yo's out of our government.

  • illinoislady
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    Trump Responds To Melania’s Alleged Abortion Stance, And People Don’t Hold Back In Fierce Reactions

    It's really shocking how he thinks.

    by Terry Lawson6 hours ago6 hours ago

    Donald Trump is always changing his tune when it suits him. Recently, his wife, Melania Trump, spoke out in favor of a woman’s right to choose. In a video on social media, Melania said women should have control over their own bodies. “Individual freedom is a fundamental principle that I safeguard,” she said. She questioned what “my body, my choice” really means, showing support for women’s rights.

    Trump’s response surprised many people. During an interview, he said he told Melania to “stick with your heart” when writing her upcoming book, which includes her views on abortion. He added, “I’m not going to tell you what to do.” While this seems like he’s supporting her freedom to choose, it goes against everything he and his political party have been pushing for years.

    People quickly noticed the double standard. Trump says Melania can make her own choice, but millions of other women can’t. Under Trump’s leadership, the Republican Party has worked hard to take away women’s rights. Since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, many states controlled by Republicans have passed strict abortion laws. These laws make it almost impossible for women to get safe abortions.

    Franklin tweeted, “Oh wow maybe he should have had that viewpoint before celebrating terminating Roe v Wade.” Another user, (((Orchid)))🌻, wrote, “What fool doesn’t know this is just campaign strategy intended to soften the blow of JD Vance’s stance against women’s rights?” These reactions show that the public is not easily fooled by Trump’s words.

    Mystery Dem warned, “Be prepared for a different answer tomorrow after the evangelicals release a statement,” highlighting the unpredictability of Trump’s responses. Paul the other one… added, “Trump doesn’t want to tell Melania what to do. He only wants to tell other women what to do,” which captures the hypocrisy many see in his comments.

    Jemele Hill, a journalist, called out Trump for this. She tweeted, “Oh, so Melania gets to choose but not millions of other women. Got it.” This shows how unfair Trump’s stance is. While Melania gets the freedom to choose, other women across the country are losing that same right.

    Attorney Bradley Moss also criticized Trump’s comments. He tweeted, “He has no problem with states telling your daughters what to do with their body, though.” This shows the gap between what Trump says and what he actually supports. He lets his wife choose, but his party is trying to take that choice away from all other women.

    Trump’s words about Melania don’t match his actions as the leader of the Republican Party. The party has been working to pass strict abortion laws, and they want a national ban on abortion. These laws don’t just affect abortion but also limit access to other important health care for women.

    Is this really the first time Trump has changed his mind about abortion? Probably not. During his 2016 campaign, he switched his stance several times. At one point, he even said women who get abortions should be punished. His comments caused outrage. This shows that Trump’s views on important issues often change depending on what benefits him at the time.

    A 2023 Pew Research poll shows that 61% of Americans believe abortion should be legal in most cases. But Trump and the Republican Party are ignoring what most people want. They continue to push laws that take away women’s rights.

    Trump’s comments about Melania’s right to choose really show his double standard. He’s all about letting her have her freedom while leading a party that takes that same freedom away from millions of women. The fight for women’s rights isn’t over, and we need to keep pushing back against Trump and the Republicans, who seem to think their opinions matter more than women’s choices.

  • illinoislady
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    JD Vance Praises Marjorie Taylor Greene As A ‘Great Strong Woman Leader’—And Americans Are Absolutely Disgusted

    Like two peas in a pod.

    by Megan Hamilton2 mins ago2 mins ago

    Time for a little brown-nosing, anyone? Seems like J.D. Vance was in the mood for doing this as he extolled the virtues of Georgia GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene earlier Friday. Who, just the night before, made another whackjob comment about the weather being controlled. As in: “Yes they can control the weather. It’s ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it can’t be done.”

    Of course, it’s also ridiculous that Georgians voted for the Conspiracy Theory Queen, but here we are. But if “they” can control the weather, could you do me a favor, Marge? Ask them to turn down the humidity a notch in Central America, since I live here. So that my hands won’t melt into my keyboard?

    That’s a pipe dream, of course, because anyone with the intelligence above that of a grape knows the weather can’t be controlled.

    Unfortunately, that didn’t dissuade Ohio GOP Sen. J.D. Vance, who’s Donald Trump’s vice presidential running mate from singing her praises during an event in Georgia. I’ve heard it said that “like attracts like.” Well, maybe it’s also true that stupid attracts stupid. That would explain Vance’s remarks.

    “We have got another great, strong woman leader and Congresswoman, Marjorie Taylor Greene. I know we’re in her district, where’s Marjorie? Please say hello. Now you may not know this but one of the very first endorsements and frankly the very first really important endorsement that I got was when I was running in the Republican Senate primary when I was running in Ohio a few years ago was from Marjorie Taylor Greene, so she has been a great friend of mine, she’s a loyal person and you guys have a hell of a Congresswoman here.”

    This meeting of the minds has gone bankrupt and needs overdraft protection in the form of fact-checking.

    Of course, @KamalaHQ noticed this and took to X (formerly Twitter) to draw our attention to Vance’s cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs brown-nosing (I know, I know, I said this earlier but really what else is he doing here?)

    “JD Vance praises Marjorie Taylor Greene hours after she posted a conspiracy theory suggesting Hurricane Helene was man-made,” HQ noted.

    This lit up social media and spurred plenty of commentary.

    @BDeMayo quipped:

    “Well, look, I was raised by my Meemaw, and she always told me when a Sasquatch speaks, you listen”

    @Autarkh wrote:

    “This is so idiotic but the irony is delicious. Qlorox Qaren believes the batshit conspiracy that “they” are directly controlling hurricanes, but denies the science that industrial emissions are affecting the climate.”

    Vance may seem like an “aw shucks” down home sort but @KaySteinsapir explained why he is more dangerous than he appears.

    “Who is “they”? I assume Jews but one never knows what these deranged people mean. JD is particularly dangerous because he makes the GOP’s racist, xenophobic, antisemitic, conspiracy theorist bullshit appear less extreme. I hope enough people see through it.”

    Greene was zinged quite a bit in her original post as well.

    “We know you’re the dumbest member of Congress. You don’t have to remind us of it every day.”

    And one of my favorite peeps on X, @JoJofromJerz offered up this one:

    Oh, and she also quipped:

    “Do they do it with lasers in space?”

    The fact that Vance and MTG can be this ludicrous reminds me of the famous quote by Mark Twain:

    “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

    Still one of my favorite quotes from this remarkable man and it’s as true now as it was when he was alive.

  • illinoislady
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    Oklahoma Schools Need 55,000 Bibles. Trump-Endorsed Book Fits the Bill.

    The bid details for new Bibles the state is buying seem to point to a version promoted by former President Donald J. Trump

    Oklahoma’s education superintendent, Ryan Walters, mandated that all public school classrooms have a Bible. Credit...Daniel Shular/Tulsa World, via Associated Press

    By Stephanie Saul

    • Oct. 4, 2024

    When the education superintendent of Oklahoma, Ryan Walters, ordered this year that every public school classroom in the state must have a Bible in the classroom, he didn’t mention any special requirements.

    But bid specifications for the Bibles, released this week, contain several narrowly drawn and unusual details. They must, for example, include text of the Pledge of Allegiance, the U.S. Constitution and other historical documents not normally included in the Bible.

    What Bible fits the bill? The country music star Lee Greenwood’s God Bless the U.S.A. Bible, which is endorsed by former President Donald J. Trump and costs $60, far above the average price for Bibles. Mr. Trump receives royalties from their sales; financial disclosure reports filed in August show he has made $300,000 from the Bible since endorsing it.

    The specifications caught the eye of Oklahoma Watch, a nonprofit news organization, which first reported this week that the bid specs seemed tailored to steer the state’s selection toward one Bible. Among other requirements, the bid rules require King James Version Bibles that are bound by leather or leather-like material.

    About 20 million copies of the Bible are sold each year in the United States, and some printed versions are available for under $5. But each copy of Mr. Greenwood’s Bible includes a handwritten version of the chorus of his song “God Bless the U.S.A.,” a frequent anthem at Trump rallies. It also includes copies of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Pledge of Allegiance. And it is bound in brown leather.

    The God Bless the U.S.A. Bible fits the specifications that Oklahoma’s Department of Education laid out in its bid for Bibles this fall.

    Mr. Trump had posted his endorsement of Mr. Greenwood’s Bible to his social media feeds just before Easter. It is one of several ventures the former president has embarked on in recent months as his legal bills mount from his court cases. Earlier this year, Mr. Trump hawked $399 gold sneakers, and in August he began promoting a new cryptocurrency business.

    Oklahoma is looking for 55,000 Bibles, a big contract worth about $3 million. (Last month, Mr. Walters, a Christian conservative and former history teacher, said the state would ask the Legislature for money to buy Bibles.)

    A spokesman for the Department of Education, Dan Isett, released a statement Friday saying that Mr. Walters was committed “to an open and transparent R.F.P. process, consistent with the norms for state procurement, that will be adequate to meet the needs of Oklahoma classrooms.”

    Mr. Isett said that there were “hundreds of Bible publishers and we expect a robust competition for this proposal.”

    But an advocacy group, the Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law and Justice, raised questions about the bid specifications.

    “The R.F.P. on its face seems fair, but with additional scrutiny we can see there are very few Bibles on the market that would meet these criteria, and all of them have been endorsed by former President Donald Trump,” Colleen McCarty, the organization’s executive director, said in a statement.

    She accused Mr. Walters of continuing to “waste taxpayer money on unconstitutional endeavors designed to draw litigation in pursuit of his political ambitions.

    Legal experts had raised questions about whether Mr. Walters’s broad mandate — which requires the Bible to be taught in classrooms — would create a legal quagmire for the state, particularly if parents were opposed to having children taught religion. And many school districts have said they would not comply.

    Some conservative Christians are also uncomfortable with the mandate, saying homes and churches are more appropriate places for children to learn about religion. Republican state lawmakers, too, have raised questions about Mr. Walters’s stewardship of the education agency.

    Mr. Trump, who has also endorsed steaks, vodka and a for-profit business academy, had never been known as a churchgoer before running for office.

    But he has been quoted as saying that the Bible is his favorite book. But when asked by Bloomberg’s talk show “With All Due Respect” to share his favorite verse, he declined.

    “The Bible means a lot to me, but I don’t want to get into specifics,” he said.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    My apologies in advance to anyone who lives in Oklahoma or has friends or relatives there. Oklahoma needs to fire Ryan Walters immediately. Hard to swallow that kind of REALLY naked transparency. Could you purse your lips any harder Mr. Walters to kiss the orange guys behind.

    Just for openers, Bibles do not have to be in school. They belong in Church or in your home, or in the library but they do not need to be in school. Of course, I'm beside myself again, disgusted to the max.

    Rant over.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 5,316

    I love that Mark Twain quite and as someone who used to argue with stupid people, I can say it is absolutely true!


    ““Who is “they”? I assume Jews but one never knows what these deranged people mean. JD is particularly dangerous because he makes the GOP’s racist, xenophobic, antisemitic, conspiracy theorist bullshit appear less extreme.”

    I have said it before, this is a very intelligent and cunning man who is not hobbled by narcissism as trump is. That makes him far more dangerous.
    As a side note, we celebrated Rosh Hashanah , the new year, this week. Not a single space laser in sight!

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,626

    If they really need Bibles, I suggest they contact the the Gideons since they still place their Bible in nearly every hotel room I have stayed in. True they won't have the supplements but they could easily be copied and inserted in each book for far less than this moron proposes to spend. What happened to the separation of church and state?

    Yes, I know the Supreme Court destroyed that but parents need to step up and provide input to the school systems as to what is being taught that is not purely educational and not religious in nature. There is a place for religion and it is not in the public school.

    Soylent Greene strikes again and reveals that her intellect is wanting. As far as Vance citing her support, just goes to show you the man is as amoral as she is and while I do question his intellect (please no rebuttal needed), I do feel he has all the charm of a snake oil salesman.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,626

    BTW, who really believes that Melania lets Trump tell her what to do? I would say she rules that house. A marriage made in heaven; grifter to grifter and soul-less to soul-less.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    Got a kick out of the no space lasers doing Rosh Hashanah. Some people are just amazing

    ing stupid almost to the point of a touch of in-sanity. I am also highly fond of Mark Twain and his quote on people like MTG. I like all his quotes but I am quite fond of his and others witty quotes that end up being so spot on you feel totally understood.

    Also, I tend to agree about Melania and have thought that all along. She has been a player from the first and isn't going to stand still for being told what to do. How she gets even with you I'm not sure, but if you do interfere with her I'm sure you end up with some kind of regret. Very much two people who belong together so as not to accidentally get hooked up with someone actually of decent quality, otherwise known as a decent human being.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    Yes, a pretty small box for so many hurricane victims. Thank goodness he does not appear to be throwing anything out of the box. Hmm, the only time I might like to see a body of water rise real fast.

  • illinoislady
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    GOP Candidate For Governor In Important Swing State Getting Thumped In Polls; Dem ‘Clear And Overwhelming Favorite’

    People are tired of scandals

    by Terry Lawson10 seconds ago10 seconds ago

    Mark Robinson’s campaign for governor of North Carolina is in deep trouble. Recent polls show the Republican candidate trailing Democratic Attorney General Josh Stein by a stunning 17 points—an almost unthinkable gap in a state that has long been considered a battleground.

    A poll conducted by East Carolina University (ECU) Center for Survey Research shows Stein with 50% of the vote compared to Robinson’s 33%. Even with 13% of voters still undecided, Stein is the clear frontrunner. The poll surveyed 1,005 likely voters and has a margin of error of +/- 3%.

    Robinson’s campaign has taken a big hit due to a recent scandal. CNN reported that over a decade ago, Robinson participated in a pornographic website chat room. This news broke in September and has been damaging to his public image. Robinson’s support from Republican voters has dropped sharply—from 83% in August to just 63% now.

    “The recent scandals surrounding Mark Robinson have had a major impact,” said Dr. Peter Francia, director of the ECU poll. “What was once a competitive race no longer is. Josh Stein is the clear and overwhelming favorite.”

    Josh Stein, on the other hand, has seen his support grow significantly. If elected, he would become the first Jewish governor of North Carolina, marking a historic moment for the state. Stein has also increased his backing among key voter groups. Support from women has jumped from 14% to 27%, while support from men rose from 4% to 9%. His campaign has been largely free of controversy, which has helped him maintain his lead.

    In North Carolina, it’s not uncommon for a Democratic attorney general to become governor. Mike Easley and Roy Cooper, the current governor, both made this transition successfully. They each moved from the role of attorney general to leading the state as governor. Now, it looks like Josh Stein could follow a similar path. Like Easley and Cooper before him, Stein, who currently serves as attorney general, seems well-positioned to run for governor and possibly win. If he does, he would be the next in a line of attorney generals who reached the state’s highest office.

    Unfortunately for the GOP, North Carolina has seen its fair share of scandalous candidates. Remember Governor Pat McCrory? In 2016, he signed the infamous “bathroom bill,” which caused quite a stir and probably cost him his job. Now, Robinson is in hot water too, with his wild views on abortion and LGBTQ rights scaring off voters. Even his fellow Republicans are worried he’s too cozy with Donald Trump.

    Robinson’s close ties to Donald Trump might be backfiring on him. While Trump is still the king of the Republican base, his style can be more like a double-edged sword in swing states like North Carolina. It’s tough for some Republicans to win over moderate and independent voters when Trump is in the picture, and Robinson seems to be caught in that mess. North Carolina usually goes Republican in national elections but votes more sensibly for state offices.

    As Robinson’s campaign struggles, Josh Stein’s lead keeps growing. With the election just weeks away, Stein seems to be on a clear path to victory. North Carolina voters are looking for a governor they can trust, and Stein’s steady, scandal-free approach is winning them over. Robinson’s drop in the polls is a warning for both him and the Republican Party. If the GOP continues to support candidates who follow Trump’s politics and face personal scandals, they risk not only losing this election but future ones as well.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    People everywhere I do believe are also tired of FG, as much as those with skeletons that fall out of their closets at in-opportune times. In fact, I would think any time soon people will start realizing that trying to buddy up to FG is no guarantee of much of anything.

    All well and fine perhaps, but have people forgotten he did have a serious loss in 2020 and if Mark Robinson or anyone else running THIS time thinks there is some value in a con who actually has exhibited loss after loss and year after year, in numerous special elections and obviously in indictments and trials that have come to fruition, and you haven't found your way clear to creating distance — you damn well deserve to lose. The damn rabbit got out of that hat a long time ago and you people are just asking for your own natural disasters if you haven't learned how to keep your hands away from a blazing fire.

    Mark Robinson is a rather amazing individual who really would be one to benefit if he, FG and a host of others just like them could be all swept away together to a faraway isle left alone to fend for themselves — together this loving group of total losers. What a fabulous "game of survivors" could be had.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    Part of Robinson's problem is he is campaigning with a Lifesize cut out of FG. Mr. Robinson you really do need to stand on your own two feet as he article implies. FG is a stone-cold loser for you and in this case, a freaking cardboard one at that. Not saying this to help you by the way.

    The Trump Factor: A Double-Edged Sword

    It’s clear that Trump still holds significant influence over the Republican Party, but Robinson’s campaign highlights the dangers of leaning too heavily on Trump’s popularity. For some candidates, Trump’s endorsement is a vital lifeline, but for others, the former president’s larger-than-life persona may overshadow their own campaigns.

    In Robinson’s case, his apparent inability to define his campaign beyond Trump’s image has hurt him more than helped him. As the race for governor heats up, voters in North Carolina may be looking for a candidate with solutions—something a cardboard cutout can’t provide.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    Rudy Giuliani’s daughter explains why families have been split wide open by Trump

    • Updated: Oct. 05, 2024, 2:24 p.m.
    • |Published: Oct. 04, 2024, 5:36 p.m.

    “Take it from me, Trump destroys everything he touches,” Caroline Giuliani wrote about her father. “I saw it happen to my family, pictured above. "Don’t let it happen to yours, or to our country.”

    By 

    Like many Americans, Carolina Giuliani was paralyzed over the prospect that Donald Trump — the man she blames for ruining her father and damaging her family — could be close to returning to the White House.

    Month ago, polling showed that Trump was ahead of incumbent President Joe Biden, and the looming terror kept her from acting — until she found the courage to lay bare her family’s challenges in a Vanity Affair article entitled “Trump Took My Dad From Me. Please Don’t Let Him Take Our Country Too.”

    Buoyed by Vice President Kamala Harris’ entrance into the presidential race and the Democratic nominee’s vault to the top of the polls gave Giuliani hope — and a nudge to speak out.

    “Take it from me, Trump destroys everything he touches,” she wrote. “I saw it happen to my family. Don’t let it happen to yours, or to our country.”

    On Friday, in a discussion with MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace on Deadline White House, Caroline Giuliani dived deeper into the cleaver of cruelty that Trump has used to split open families across the nation.

    “I can’t really speak to what is in other people’s minds or why they make the decisions that they make,” Giuliani said. “I think power is very alluring, but I think the more important question is why he’s caused such division among so many families in this country. ...

    “This is so relatable, having this chasm in your family over Trump, and the reason for that is because he spews this toxic cruelty. And when you are a woman or a person of color or a gay person or trans person, and someone that you love supports a man like that, it is really hard to reconcile that support with their love for you.

    “So I want healing for our country, and I do want us to find the common humanity in one another, even when we disagree about politics. But if Trump becomes the president again, that will not be possible. Kamala Harris is our only path to healing. She presents a really beautiful path to healing for us,” she added.

    Wallace wondered: How is it possible that your father, known the world over as a prosecutor, could throw in with Trump, who has 34 felony convictions? Giuliani, of course, faces criminal charges of his own of election interference and has been disbarred in New York and Washington, D.C. as a result of his alleged anti-democratic crimes for Trump.

    “It’s a hard phenomenon to understand. It definitely is,” Carolina Giuliani said. “I view Trump as a disease, and I think it’s really important to remember that with every disease, prevention is a much more effective strategy than treatment. ... I thought we had cured ourselves of it the first time, but it doesn’t seem like we have.

    “And I think if he becomes the president again, we may have a terminal illness in our country. And that really, really scares me.”

    What is her current relationship with her dad?

    “I love my dad. We talk openly about our feelings about things,” she said. “And it’s a challenge, but again, so many other families have this same challenge. You said it was unique. It isn’t, it isn’t unique. It’s a little bit larger than life in public, but it’s not unique, and I really want us to be able to disagree about politics ... but I don’t believe that we have the path to doing that under Trump. I think Kamala Harris is the only person who can restore our ability to disagree peacefully.”

    Giuliani’s father was slapped with a $148 million civil judgment for his lies about Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss. Rudy Giuliani is likely to end up broke as a result of his Trump sycophancy.

    “Watching [Ruby and Shaye] share their stories was extremely gut wrenching and difficult, and I feel so bad for everything that they’ve gone through,” Caroline Giuliani said. “I can’t even imagine that pain, and that is why I’m so excited to support Kamala Harris, who has spent her life fighting for citizens, not against them.

    “She would never do anything like this. It’s so clear that Trump does not care about his citizens, he’s willing to step on anyone’s backs to keep power, and that is not a person who deserves the highest office in our land.”

    My Pillow Guy seems to be headed in Guiliani's direction too.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,286

    A National Treasure: