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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

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  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,967
    edited March 2021

    I know it has been hard for kids not able to see friends. But really. What about kids in refugee camps? Kids who live in remote areas? It's tough for everyone of every age. Whatever happened to "suck it up, Buttercup"? I don't think a year without school in person is going to scar kids for life. They all need support catching up, but most will be able to. I have to admit I have no children experiencing this, so probably should keep my mouth shut. I think we're underestimating how resilient kids are.

  • pingpong1953
    pingpong1953 Member Posts: 277
    edited March 2021

    I'm so relieved - my Covid test results came back negative! Now I can get groceries myself and reopen my Etsy shop!

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 5,356
    edited March 2021

    wren,

    Children are resilient but that doesn’t mean they should just “suck it up”. Due to their lack of life experiences most young children have no previous experience or framework to process the whole pandemic and everything that went along with it. Adults didn’t either but as adults, we have the life experience to process and understand. It’s simply confusing for kidsand they respond in many ways as they try to cope, not all of them desirable. Will they be scarred for life? Unlikely but there will be lasting effects. You mention children in refugee camps or other difficult circumstances. These children are experiencing trauma! Again, it will manifest differently in different children but it is naive to pretend it has no effect. Many of these children will quickly learn not to talk about these experiences. They will just try to push them away into some dark corner of their psyche and this is not a good thing either. Just as with adults, different children react differently in similar situations but children fare worse, especially with the suck it up attitude, because they have no prior experience to help them process it and by being told to suck it up they learn not to express their feelings and that their feelings are not legitimate.

    I teach first grade and have taught elementary school for a long time. I also have three young grandchildren. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but down here in the trenches (We went back to partial in class instruction a month ago) it looks very different. Remember children are not small adults!

  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,967
    edited March 2021

    You are correct. I think what bugs me is the endless media coverage.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited March 2021

    Caryn, I would love to hear how things are going with the back to in person schooling for your students, yourself, and the rest of the kids and teachers at your school.

    The long term effect the pandemic will have on kids remains to be seen. One thing I noticed over the past year is how willing and able all educators seemed to be to do whatever it took to continue teaching, even as guidelines changed every week or several times a week. School administrators remained dedicated, always doing their best to keep the students safe while making sure they still got an education. I almost don't think it matters how far the kids got in reading, writing and arithmetic as much as they saw teachers and administrators constantly adapting to the trying times and keeping the kids a priority, never throwing the towel in. That's a lesson in perseverance. Like Jackson Browne's song, “And when the morning light comes streaming in, I get up and do it again." No matter the hard times, teachers got up and faced every day anew to teach their students.


  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 5,356
    edited March 2021

    Yes, the media coverage bothers me too but if you could experience what I do, remote learning vs in person, you would see what a serious problem this is. Not only are children struggling academically and emotionally, but Zoom fatigue has made far too many simply check out. Imagine being 6 years old and spending hours staring at a computer screen. Not engaging, not developmentally appropriate. Additionally, equity has been a huge issue that really revealed the extent of the digital divide in our country. I teach in a small district that had the means to provide devices and internet connections for every student. What about those school districts that didn’t have the means to do so? I could go on and on...

    Suck it up buttercup? Would you say that to an adult experiencing trauma in comparable circumstances? I hope not but I certainly couldn’t imagine demanding this type of maturity and adult ability to deal with difficult circumstances for young children. Not for all, but for many students this has been a tough year and I will not invalidate their feelings by telling them to just suck it up. Sucking it up results in damaged adults who have difficulty expressing emotions more often than we think.

    In case it didn’t come across, I am a fierce advocate for children and have been a fiercely dedicated teacher for most of my adult life. Retiring soon but will definitely be subbing.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

    What is important is to realize that whether we understand fully who we are or what will happen when we die, it's our purpose to grow as human beings, to look within ourselves, to find and build upon that source of peace and understanding and strength that is our individual self. And then to reach out to others with love and acceptance and patient guidance in the hope of what we may become together. -Elisabeth Kuebler-Ross

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

    Not sure I have much to add to the above conversation other than that some of us ( myself included ) grew up in very small places and had parents with limited resources. My thoughts are we may not have been told to suck it up as I don't think that was a phrase used much in speaking then, but as a child I witnessed so much stoicism in my parents, other family members and most of the people around -- seeing as the town's population was about 200 or less. I grew up more or less the same as those I shared life with, in my own personal household and those around me. We learned how to make things we didn't have, invent games and move on pretty much no matter what situations came up. So, even though we didn't hear suck it up in so many words, it was more an understood thing that life may not seem fair but giving up and giving in should be left to the REAL bitter end, and I just don't know anyone who ended up on that road. Now maybe that was just resilience learned because most of the town just lived that way. I'm just mentioning it because I think if you may have grown up that way it may have stuck with you and it would ( if you don't interact on a really regular basis with small children ) maybe be hard to think of small children having such deep and harsh issues now. It has seemed often that succeeding generations have had more and often better opportunities and that they might have a different tolerance now -- but they don't.

    I do know that many adults didn't react ( and a lot still aren't ) well to the restrictive life that we have had to endure -- so I guess I can see that it could be super challenging to some of the kids who depended on school for their sociability as well as a structure that promoted growth, to suddenly have the rug pulled out and a whole different arrangement. Likely much harder to feel praise and acknowledgement that wasn't shared in the normal classroom setting. Hats off to all those teachers who pushed through for their students.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

    Den of thieves !!!


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

    Just wow !!! She went this far before admitting it was a lie. Sandy -- is her law license gong to be reviewed or something.


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

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  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,967
    edited March 2021

    I actually borrowed suck it up, buttercup from a woman who used it with her somewhat wayward daughter who had been prevented from going out to do things she shouldn't do.

    I don't blame kids not able to concentrate on Zoom classes. I am only good for a 2 hour class. I can't imagine our hyperactive GS lasting any longer than that. I could not be a teacher and I admire those who are. They put in so many hours in addition to school itself to make it a good experience for their students.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 5,356
    edited March 2021

    illinois,

    Wow on Sidney Powell's statement in court! Just wow!

    As for kids sucking it up, or whatever we might call it, all I have to say is that was then, this is now. Society's practices, be it child rearing, education, table manners or virtually anything else, areconstantly changing. I didn't always raise my children the way I was raised and I don't expect my children to raise my grandchildren the way I raised them. We may not like it but for societies to remain open, vibrant and thriving, they must continually evolve. I think as we grow older we look at the past with nostalgia and remember the best years of our youth.
    I hope that everyone will forgive my very passionate views on children and education. I was born that way 🤷🏻.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited March 2021

    exbrnxgrl, you’re literally on the front lines when it comes to educating the nation's youth, so there is absolutely no need to apologize. Women are allowed to be passionate!


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

    Sitting here listening to the news of the Boulder, Co. shooter. The shooting took place at a King Souper's store. Starting to wonder how long this affliction is going to last. I knew that some things were bound to happen because with the other orange one he seems to have unleashed a strange kind of permission for people to feel free to take out their feelings/emotion/hatreds whenever the mood grows in them. It is horrid to wonder if you are the next target.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,258
    edited March 2021

    Hi gals! Thank you so much Jackie, little sister! Your call last night meant the world to me.... Boulder isn't far from us, and even closer to Janie who lives in Westminster, about 15 minutes to Boulder. She works at the Kings by her house, and that whole thing just made me sick. When I turned on Judge Judy, the news about the shooting was on... And one had been reported killed! I just couldn't beLIEVE it!

    And now the sicko has been identified, and you don't want to know what I would do to that guy, if I had my chance! I KNOW it's mental illness... that is no excuse. NO excuse for owning these "long rifles" unless you intend to shoot your way into Kingdom Come! And yes! Trump put no blocks on anyone owning those weapons of war! The NRA has as much credibility as the Pillow Guy!

    Sorry.... I was just so scared hearing about this, because Janie lives alone with her 3 little cats, and I just worry and want to protect her! Like that older man at the scene, trying to find his wife who was out shopping! And the Dad who was looking for his Son working in the Starbucks!

    If these extremists don't like it here, LEAVE! Or take themSELVES out, NOT other innocent people.

    Sorry.... I'm just scared and mad, and want to cry.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

    It is impressive to see a person who has been battered by life in many ways, who is torn by a variety of unsolved problems, who may be alienated from many aspects of the self--but who is still fighting, still struggling, still striving to find the path to a fulfilling existence, moved by the wisdom of knowing, "I am more than my problems." -Nathaniel Branden, Self-Esteem Every Day

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

    Sunny, my sister -- I am thrilled beyond descriptive words that you and yours ( love you too Janie ) are safe. I hearken back to days when guns were not used to hunt 'people' so it is so sad, scary, frustrating and totally miserable when you have to look over your shoulder at this time in life and wonder if those you hold in your hearts may be in danger. You'd rather it be you, but it shouldn't actually be anyone. This to me is a problem that got carried way too far with the NRA and others and it is a business proposition , and always was, and it has spawned something so ugly that no one can feel free.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
    edited March 2021

    I don't think it's a political statement to say that there is something broken in the soul of America.

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  • miriandra
    miriandra Member Posts: 2,245
    edited March 2021

    As a massage therapist, there is a glaring omission in the coverage of the Georgia shooter. While I don't doubt the racism angle in the least, the perp claimed that he had a sex addiction and this fed into his rampage.

    The dots that haven't been connected yet by the media is that he associated massage therapy with sexual services. (We sometimes get men who call our clinic asking if we have any "Asian girls" working for us, as Asian women are perceived as sexually submissive.) This guy decided to vent both his racism and misogyny in one go!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,258
    edited March 2021

    Yes... Seems as if some of these extremist "men? think they can get away with murder. The Atlanta murders were just one more case of "taking matters into my own hands"... And yes, prejudice & hatred, not to mention his sick obsession with himself caused him to just take matters into his own hands. So many "excuses" we listen to, and they are all meaningless.

    And these sick people, by law, are entitled to a fair "trial"...attorneys who will fight for their freedom, of which they denied their victims. Sometimes I seem to be intelligent, or just plain mad....Hah!

    I hope Biden will take responsibility and stop this "don't take away my guns" madness. There is never an excuse for owning an assault rifle. Nor ANY gun, for the sole purpose of taking a life.


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

    I've a strong inclination to believe Bill Kristol makes a lot of sense here. Can't remember when if ever I WASN'T hearing about a crises at the border and I totally agree that the things the other orange guy made it much worse. I also know the media always looks for ways to keep people turning in and can shade a lot of material in ways that one might say are technically true, but usually not a complete picture and would look different if the whole story was recited at once.


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  • yesiamadragon
    yesiamadragon Member Posts: 343
    edited March 2021

    Chevy -- I am so sorry! I have one nephew in Boulder. I was thinking today, when he was in grade school he was in another JeffCo school when Columbine happened, and he was really shaken up (of course). Then when he was in HS, the Platte Canyon shooting happened, and though different district it is the next HS up from Conifer, and they used to swim together (one of the schools didn't have a pool at some point). Now he is coaching in Boulder. Have not heard yet if any of his families were directly affected, but the whole community is reeling. This needs to just stop.


  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,258
    edited March 2021

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  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,967
    edited March 2021

    Chevy, That is marvelous.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

    By the way Ping-Pong -- so glad as well that you had a negative covid test. Hurrah !!!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

    The whole group for the most part are as tiresome as can be and soooo many don't have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot.


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,999
    edited March 2021

    A little transference going on:


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