I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!
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Jackie, you have more guts than me to watch some of the coverage. I voted yesterday at the board of elections since I had to get radiation to my thigh today and wasn't sure how I'd feel after. I voted straight Democratic ballot. I told dh, anyone you're not sure of (like judges), vote Democrat. Our important Senate vote, we voted for Tim Ryan. I was glad to vote early. My local poll switched a few years ago and it's busier and I just din't care for it. Dh voted early this morning, just as the polls opened and he said it was busy.
I don’t know if I’ll be brave enough to look at election results on TV/internet tomorrow or come to this thread and see what my Democratic buddies here have posted. Especially at a time like this, I am grateful to know you all, to share the same “blue” views and to have a safe place to share them.
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Our judges don't declare political parties. But there's a wonderful website that surveys lawyers, clerks, and fellow judges about their abilities and competencies. Many judges up for reelection had great scores. But when 47% of lawyers and clerks say that you should not be a judge, I like to listen. Also, if you rate high in "Timeliness of Filing", but low in "Knowledge of the Law", I also get concerned.
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Divine, I guess I was brave. The first couple of hours of coverage are somewhat boring so I didn't pay much attention. As things got further in I did find myself paying more attention than I thought I would. I have to say overall that I had some real disappointments, even if they weren't complete surprises. I had high hopes that J.D. Vance would be defeated.
I'm very satisfied about the fact that the Reps. did NOT wipe the floor with us as they and the media worked so hard to portray. As I write, there are as yet contests that are not called and they will certainly be interesting. I may not like how they turn out, but I'll go to bed far less upset than I was earlier.
At our polling place I voted only for Democrats. I only knew one judge for sure and he was a Reps. I met him through his wife and that was the only reason I knew anything of him. My feeling was and remains -- the less Reps. that are put in office right now, likely the better.
I'm concerned for a couple of races that haven't been called yet, but I'm going to go to bed and I'll sweat or fret tomorrow.
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I haven't had the heart or the guts to look at all the results, but I saw a few. Fetterman won. Unfortunately, so did Vance, as you said, Jackie. Along with him is Gym Jordan. Ew, yuck. What a POS. In my local county, a very known and well like Democratic commissioner was beaten by an unknown Republican who won by a pretty good margin. It really shows the hold the Republicans have on Ohio. All our county commissioners are now Republican and pretty much the rest of the local and state government is Republican. It sucks. I also see Sarah Suckabee…..er, Huckabee won governor in Arkansas. I hear her dad will probably be calling the shots. And the thought is Sarah will be a presidential candidate in ‘24.
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I couldn’t look last night. Today I’m sick. DeathSantis won. Little Marco won. Stacey Abrams in Ga lost. Beto in Texas lost. But Fetterman beat Dr Quack. And the damn tropical storm is due tonight.
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Its so fucking sobering to hear the losses especially knowing the push Stacy Abrams made to get elected and all she’s done for Georgia and… well, the U.S.!
One other positive is that Josh Shapiro won the election for Governor in PA. His opponent was Doug Maestriano. My son called him “Scary.” He is Christian nationalist tho claims not to be, would not talk to local or national media but used social media for his campaign. He is an extremist, literally a Hitler.
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divinemrsm: you are correct as was your son about Mastriano. He is the spawn of the devil, lead a campaign shrouded in secrecy and vowed that as governor he could overturn any state election. Sounds like fascism to me and so glad he lost. He was beyond scary and declared that "my body, my choice" was nonsense and climate change was "fake science". As far as the snake oil salesman, I would not be surprised to read that he retreats to his mansion in NJ after losing. His last ad on "showing compassion" was swarmy and did not obviously extend to the smear job he did on Fetterman's stroke. Good riddance since our last Repugnican senator was a party man to the nth degree and never felt it was necessary to have town halls, etc with his constituents. My pre-election anxiety kept me off the TV yesterday but awaking to hear that Shapiro and Fetterman were victorious was a blessing.
Sorry to hear DeathdeSantis, soylent Greene, abnormal Abbot, JD Vance and other despicables won their seats. Spookiesmom, sorry you did not get the outcome you wanted. I don;t understand the mentality of Floridians and Texans in regards to their loyalty to Repugnicans. Hoping brainless Boebert loses.
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Well, since I now live in Canada I can only vote for federal seats. I lived in northern Ohio and both of my choices lost. I'd like to know what happened to the Democrats in northern Ohio? It used to be pretty safe for D's in that part of the state, but apparently not any more. All very disheartening.
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betrayal, wow, you filled me in on things about Mastriano I did not know. Omg, now I am even more glad he lost.
Pingpong, Ohio turned red in 2016 and becomes more so with every election.
Here is better news on the abortion rights front from Wa Po:
Voters across the country delivered a series of decisive victories for abortion rights on Tuesday in the first nationwide election since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June. The biggest surprise came in Republican-leaning Kentucky, where an antiabortion amendment was defeated, clearing a potential path for abortion access to be restored in a state with one of the country's most restrictive bans.
In Michigan, where Gov. Gretchen Whitmer was reelected in part by presenting herself as a champion of abortion rights, voters approved a ballot initiative that will enshrine the right to abortion in the state constitution — preventing a 1931 abortion ban from taking effect.
And in North Carolina, Republicans failed to win a veto-proof legislative supermajority, ensuring that Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper will continue to have the power to block abortion restrictions in a state that has become a critical access point for people seeking abortions across the Southeast.
The string of abortion rights successes affirmed a political trend that emerged in August, two months after the fall of Roe, when voters in conservative Kansas rejected an antiabortion amendment similar to the one that was defeated in Kentucky. The results showed how even as GOP lawmakers have seized the moment to enact more restrictions, much of the public sees the issue differently — with about 6 in 10 midterm voters saying abortion should be legal in all or most cases, according to exit polls.
Network exit polls also found that almost 3 in 10 voters nationally said abortion was the most important issue in their vote, and that about 4 in 10 voters nationally said they were "angry" that Roe was overturned.
A "unifying message" was emerging from the 2022 midterms, said Tamarra Wieder, state director for Kentucky Planned Parenthood Alliance Advocates: "Abortion transcends party lines."
Activists on both sides of the issue were closely monitoring a handful of major state-level contests where the future of abortion access continues to hang in the balance. Several governors' contests were seen as pivotal for abortion rights, including in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where Democrats Josh Shapiro and Tony Evers were projected winners, as well as Arizona, where the contest is still too close to call.
In Michigan, nearly half of voters said abortion was the most important issue deciding their vote, according to exit polls, ranking well above inflation as most important. Abortion was also the top voting concern for Pennsylvania voters, with more than a third of voters selecting abortion as their top issue, according to exit polls.
Voters in solidly Democratic states also cast their ballots for abortion on Tuesday, with California and Vermont each approving an amendment that will explicitly protect abortion rights in their state constitutions.
In Kentucky, many Republican voters appeared to cast ballots favoring the abortion rights side even as they soundly reelected one of the Senate's most conservative members, Sen. Rand Paul. The Kentucky referendum would have amended the state constitution to clarify that it does not protect the right to abortion, making it virtually impossible to challenge antiabortion legislation in court.
Abortion has been almost entirely illegal in Kentucky since the summer. For abortions to resume, abortion rights advocates would need to secure an additional victory next week, when the Kentucky supreme court will have the opportunity to decide whether the state constitution protects abortion rights.
Dawn Riley, a 55-year-old Independent and agriculture consultant in Kentucky, said the antiabortion amendment was "a leap too far" for many. "I really feel like ultimately people don't want that intrusion on their private lives," said Riley, who worked for Kentucky Sen. Mitch McConnell (R) in the late 1980s. "I think the arguments of children and grandchildren having fewer rights than their mothers will resonate. Moving forward and not turning back the clock is a big part of the message."
During the campaign, Wieder, of Kentucky Planned Parenthood, said her team frequently encountered Republican voters planning to cross party lines on the amendment. Many voters expressed concern about the women who were being denied health care across the country because of the recent abortion bans, she added. "This issue really resonated with them," Wieder said.
The playbook deployed by the abortion rights movement in Kentucky mirrored the one that proved successful in Kansas this summer. Protect Kentucky Access, the group of abortion rights organizations working to defeat the amendment, hired the same campaign manager who had led the Kansas effort, and deployed some of the same messaging they believed worked in Kansas — that Americans should be free to make health care decisions without government involvement.
Protect Kentucky Access tried to broaden its base of supporters, attempting to appeal both to traditional abortion rights supporters and advocates of small government who might be wary of government overreach.
The antiabortion camp, "Yes For Life," focused on activating Kentucky's sizable antiabortion electorate. According to the Pew Research Center's 2014 Religious Landscape Study, 57 percent of Kentuckians believed abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, making Kentucky one of the most antiabortion states in the country.
In the finer points of the message, the groups on each side of the Kentucky referendum frustrated their opponents with what they argued was misleading messaging.
Titus Folks, a 28-year-old antiabortion activist who worked in Kentucky with Students for Life, blamed "misinformation" for the amendment's failure, accusing abortion rights supporters of mischaracterizing the ballot initiative in their campaign. "We've been getting a lot of confusion about what these ballot initiatives mean and what they do," he said. "It's hard for people to make sense of it." Folks said he felt confident that public opinion would "stabilize" on abortion over the coming year, with people eventually becoming more supportive of antiabortion measures.
Several voters in Michigan, including those who don't identify with a political party, said they voted for the measure so that politicians wouldn't have say over whether a woman can seek an abortion. Vreni Merrell-Myers, 22, and her father, Kirby Merrell, knocked on door after door Monday night in Royal Oak, Mich., the first time the pair had ever canvassed. Merrell-Myers said it was "terrifying" to think that a doctor could lose their medical license for trying to help her access basic health care.
"Roe your vote," Kirby Merrell responded, referring to a phrase abortion rights supporters have used to mobilize their base to defeat antiabortion candidates.
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I didn't turn on the news until about 9:30 (although I had checked my phone a few times). While disappointed in several individual races, I am actually rather heartened by the overall outcome. Traditionally, really no matter what is going on & particularly if the economy is bad, the party is power is TROUNCED in a mid-term election. That is not at all what happened last night. And even if the Repubs take control of one or both Houses of Congress (which I certainly hope they do NOT), they will have to compromise to get anything done. If they don't, get will be blamed for not getting anything done (which would aid democrats in the 2024 election) and if they send completely insane bills to the White House, Biden holds the veto pen. They won't have enough support to override a veto.
Hopefully the Trump/DeSantis feud will explode into a full scale war & they rip each other to shreds. That would be nice.
We are bracing for a blizzard situation here. If I don't check it for a couple days, it's because the rain/ice combination that is predicted to fall before the 12 + inches of snow has knocked out the power!
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Ruth, thanks for your positive perspective on election results. I still feel new to understanding politics, but I do remember reading about midterms usually favoring the party that is not in power.
It would be wonderful for Trump and DeSantis to cancel each other out but I won’t hold my breath.
I cannot believe you are already about to get pummeled by a blizzard! Twelve inches + of snow—yikes! I hope you and everyone else in your area get through it okay and that the power stays on!
I started watching the documentary “God Forbid” on Hulu about the Jerry Falwell Jr. scandal. It’s almost 2 hours long. Not for the faint of heart as it’s explicit in some parts. Hulu’s description: “Giancarlo Granda, former pool attendant at the Fontainebleau Hotel, shares the intimate details of his 7-year relationship with a charming older woman, Becki Falwell, and her husband, the Evangelical Trump stalwart Jerry Falwell Jr.”
We all know Falwell Jr. played a huge part in getting Trump elected, using his religious pulpit as president of (evangelical) Liberty University to endorse him. The university is in Lynchburg, VA, a city which “has been described by The New York Times as "the heart of pro-Trump evangelical Christianity". A non-partisan group called the Red Letter Christians criticized Falwell for “the pivotal role he played in "forging the alliance between white evangelicals and Donald J. Trump, who won 81 percent of their vote.” Falwell Jr. is such a piece of shit. I was just reading his Wikipedia page. Disgusting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Falwell_Jr.
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No habit has any real hold on you
other than the hold you have on it.
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I didn’t watch the returns last night, choosing to watch Elvis (pretty good movie) and read the updates in the Washington Post throughout the day. Glad that the red wave didn’t materialize like the Reps expected, but disappointed with some of the results. What is wrong with Ohio?
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Had a great post done and lost it. My fault. Whew!! So glad to have the election pretty much over. We will have the run-off with Warnock and Walker, and while its early I'm hoping and praying by then, some of the Georgian voters are over the idiocy of voting for someone like Walker. The pressure of HELPING with the ahem' red wave which turned out to be nothing more than a ripple should be past.
I am still gnashing my teeth over some of the people who made it. Like Ron Johnson. Then again, since the Reps. may stay in a certain amt. of disarray after their 'ripple' maybe people like Johnson and J.D. Vance will get shuffled to the back of the class. Way too many election deniers got seats, but I do think, (and hope and pray) Trumpism will be losing ground and given patience most of those people will end up nullified for their beliefs., making them a poor fit as representatives. The days ahead will be interesting and not so much to be dreaded. I'm gratified that 'blood' was not spilled as far as I know, no one has indicated that they thought the election was stolen from them. It was sounding like some mean things could take place
Ruth, I will be hoping your big snow dwindles by quite a bit. The joys of living in the "Dakota's" as it sounds like my Dh's upbringing in South Dakota a many, many moons ago.
Divine, I have disliked Franklin Graham for a long time. I am not too big on evangelists to begin with and seeing him throw in with the Loon finished him off for me, for sure. I have disliked evangelists, especially those on t.v. since people like the Bakers -- Jim and Tammy Faye. They reach a point where it becomes not people but money that drives them. I'm not sure once the money disease strikes them that they really are able to return for the care of a person's soul, unless it remains through their wallets.
Sad really.
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Ewwww snow. Hope you have a fireplace and a big stack of wood. We had a wood burner up north, was useful. I’ve got a propane camp stove and heat proof pots in case my power goes. At least it’s not cold.
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If Dante's seven layers of Hell do exist; people who claim to be representatives of God, but act in the manner of the above listed evangelists, will certainly end up in one of the bottom rings!
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According to Dante, the 8th layer of Hell is reserved for fraudsters. It's probably going to get quite a population boost when the current GOP passes on.
I can't find it now, but there was a medieval writing that described Satan farting out a cloud of corrupt monks. The monks then flew all about until they fled back into Satan's mouth, presumably to be farted out again later.
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Sadly it will take a while for a number of them to fully perceive that destruction. The Loon will go but they will try to keep the Trump fascism as long as they can. Except for a few like the My Pillow guy who are faithfully and totally stupidly loyal, a good deal of the rest of them see the ISM as okay but perpetuated by others and not the orange guy. If possible they would find a rock to stuff him under.
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A bit dicey as he has his subpoena hearings close at hand. Who knows, that could make for some interesting interludes with the examiners/jury.
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Or Bedminster, New Jersey.
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Reporting in about how sad that Texas pulled off ANOTHER repub win. Really - an attorney general who makes the law for the state and has been under indictment for 7 years? Apparently it was the rural & border voters who pulled the win. The major cities voted blue. I can be glad I live in Houston which went even more blue, but oh our poor state.
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Maybe she can get daddy to get his sharpie out again and make the big bad storm go away. Or maybe it’s the democrats fault?
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Haha, spookie! I'm sure the Dems arranged for that tropical storm!
I do find her wedding interesting. I think she's having two weddings, one here and another one later in Greece. I am wondering if Marla Maples will be at this wedding or if she will avoid family drama by sitting this one out and going to her daughter's ceremony in Greece.
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I foresee lots of catsup on the Mar-largo walls this weekend!
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Great article about the 18 to 29 year olds who voted!!! Below are some excerpts, here is the link to full article: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/youth-voter-turnout-2022-midterms-democrats
As projections from the 2022 midterms continue to trickle in, it's abundantly clear that Democrats should be thanking the young voters who helped deliver decisive wins on the left, preventing a red wave in Republicans' favor.
An initial look at youth voting patterns shared by the Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement at Tufts (CIRCLE) shows that young Americans ages 18-29 overwhelmingly backed Democrats for the U.S. House of Representatives.
With the threat of a national abortion ban on the horizon to far-right candidates promoting climate change denial and threatening to reject election results, according to organizers, there was an overwhelming understanding this cycle of "the stakes of the moment," said Sunrise Movement's 25-year-old national spokesperson Ellen Sciales. A mixture of fear and hope, Sciales said, allowed young people to buck speculation that without former president Donald Trump officially on the ballot, they wouldn't show up."It's never been just about Trump for us. It's about stopping the climate crisis, protecting our reproductive freedoms, and ending gun violence in our classrooms," said Sciales, who spent the past 10 days organizing young voters in Wisconsin.
Americans ages 18-29 were the only age cohort to support Democrats for the U.S. House by such a large margin. Voters ages 30-44 split their votes more evenly, 51% for Democrats and 47% for Republicans, according to CIRCLE's report.
The strongest support for Democrats came from youth of color – 89% of Black youth and 67% of Latino youth voted for a Democratic candidate – CIRCLE said. Young white voters were more evenly split across party lines with 58% supporting Democrats and 40% backing Republicans.
Young people show up when we see that our future is on the line. After the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in 2018, we showed up. After former president Donald Trump's dangerous policies and inaction on the pandemic, we showed up. On Tuesday, we again showed up because we are infuriated by the far-right attacks on our future," said Jack Lobel, 18-year-old spokesperson for Voters of Tomorrow, a Gen Z-led youth voter engagement and education organization with chapters in more than 20 states
In addition to their on-the-ground work, Voters of Tomorrow hosted text and phone banks to turn out young voters, and 40,000 people engaged recently with the group's online voting hub, the group said.
From John Fetterman's victory over Mehmet Oz in Pennsylvania and incumbent senator Maggie Hassan's success in New Hampshire to incumbent governors Gretchen Whitmer and Tony Evers's wins in Michigan and Wisconsin, Gen Z and younger millennial support of Democratic candidates appeared to be crucial in fending off Republican victories in key states.While President Biden and the Democratic majority in DC have made historic climate investments, canceled a significant chunk of student loan debt, pardoned federal marijuana offenses, led negotiations on the first bipartisan gun safety bill in 30 years, and pushed back against the destruction of abortion access over the past two years, Republicans have floated a national abortion ban, denied the climate crisis, passed bills restricting voting rights, and played down or outright supported the insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, 2021.
“Young voters are obviously now the bedrock of the Democratic Party and the only people who can consistently be counted on by Democrats,” said longtime youth-vote evangelist Ben Wessel. "Every dollar you spend on trying to turn out young voters is a dollar spent netting votes for your candidates," he said.
"Gen Z is coming in hot as they enter the electorate, matching millennials for [support of] Democrats.
But the thing that's different is they're turning out at twice the rate that millennials ever did when they were young. So that's the winning coalition," he added. "Millennials have faith in transitional leaders, people like Barack Obama," Wessel continued. "Gen Z has faith in themselves and are going to continue to keep self-organizing regardless of what leaders the Democratic Party throws in their faces.”0
