I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • miriandra
    miriandra Member Posts: 2,211
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    May be an image of text that says 'after My therapist told me "write letters to the people you hate and then burn them." Did that, but now I don't know what to do with the letters.'

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,617
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    I looked at my county's results numbers and each and every single Republican on the ticket won by huge margins, thousands more votes than their Dem opponent.

    Thank goodness it wasn't the same in all states. Maybe Ohio Democrats need to do more to round up the Gen Z vote. I will do my best to get to a Democratic meeting in my area and bring the topic up. Dems across the nation should take note that going after the young vote is worth the effort.

    I can see one reason why my county is so solid red. It is an aging population. Many young people leave the area when they graduate college because of lack of jobs here. So there are far less young votes. And of course, it is still a heavy patriarchal, male dominated area due to steel mill influence of yesteryear. Ugh. How'd I end up here!

    My son said he was surprised Fetterman won. But I am not. He just has the right appeal for a former steel industry area. Ds and I were laughing because before the election, Dr. Oz made a video in a grocery store showing the high cost of produce items (blaming Biden). Oz said his wife needed the asparagus, brocolli and carrots to make “crudites" (a French term). Fetterman later mocked Oz for the video, writing on Twitter: “In PA we called this a…veggie tray." (I thought that was hysterically funny). Fetterman's victory celebration party got in another dig when a reporter there tweeted a photo showing a plate of cut veggies and dips, along with a sign that read: "Crudité: garden fresh vegetables, hummus, green goddess dip." Hahahaha!

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
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    An article said the groom gave her a 13 karat engagement ring. How do you lift your hand?

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
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    You don't; you have servants to lift your hand for you.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
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    Divine, North Dakota is the same. It is very discouraging. We have the combination of an aging population, pretty strong Evangelical influence, not much diversity, a 'I don't want the government to tell me what to do" attitude (there was just an article in the paper about the disturbing number who die every year because they are thrown from their vehicles.....they won't wear seatbelts). The only hope here, and really in the whole country, is that young people get, and stay, engaged. If we get through this and come out with our country intact and moving forward, it will be because of them.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,617
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    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

    Ruth, your response to Spookie’s question on the 13 karat engagement ring gave me a great laugh out loud moment this morning!!! LOL Love it!

    Interesting to hear the reasons why ND embraces the red. I think starting today, Democrats need to court the young vote in every state. It makes sense that they are the future of the Democrats. There are a lot of mostly white men, many who are two generations older than they are, making laws that can affect them for years. Maybe the extremists are loud enough that young voters are paying attention enough to realize they don’t want the old guy running our country.





  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 1,032
    edited November 2022

    Jackie, as the old saying goes 'good riddance to bad rubbage.' Ewwww, stinks! SickTired

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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    Every event of life is a miracle, as is life itself: Life is designed to provide your soul with the perfect tools, the perfect circumstances, the perfect conditions with which to realize and experience, announce and declare, fulfill and become Who You Really Are. Therefore, judge not, and neither condemn. Love your enemies, pray for your persecutors, and embrace every moment and circumstance of life as a treasure; a perfect gift from a perfect Creator. -Neale Donald Walsch

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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    The memes and after thoughts of them are a double hoot. I especially liked knowing the Loon would sharpie some weather for the Tiffany wedding. Does he know it is his daughter. Maybe she will get more notice from dear old dad if she didn't rat him out or talk negative about him like Ivanka and Jerod seemed to have. Answer for heavy ring -- also fantastic..

    Divine and others are likely totally right. Young people in so many cases seem pretty solid about NOT agreeing with old white men who are greedy for money and power, and not at all interested in trying to BETTER things for everyone. Most of the young people don't have money and power, but they find strong agreement with each other and that they are willing to add their many, many voices to our elections should be celebrated and encouraged to the max. It is going to be their world and they know it and they sure don't want the one so many of us were forced into. Many of us had children and now we can hope they help save us.

    I was so sad that Beta O'Rourke didn't win the governorship, but he did get a lot of votes and recognition. Hopefully he will keep fighting on and for those who kept Reps. in power this time around I can only hope you find karma knocking later on.

    Seems to me that the orange Loon is on his way out but he will struggle against it for as long as he can. I do think this will begin the nullification of the people who are still trying to cling to the idea that ANY election was stolen -- in 2020 or past. Those people, the ones that made it into power this time can be removed and hopefully will be as soon as it can happen.

  • pingpong1953
    pingpong1953 Member Posts: 277
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    Divine, my brother and sister in the Akron area are active in a group called Summit County Progressive Democrats. You may want to check for a similar organization in your area. They do voter registration drives, GOTV phone banks, etc. At least you'd feel like you were doing something to help the cause and it may make you feel better about the whole situation.


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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    Donald Trump Was Just Destroyed by His Favorite Newspaper

    Story by Ewan Palmer • 9h agoReact189 Comments|921



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    The New York Post has fully turned its back on Donald Trump following the Republican Party's faltering performance in the midterms, describing the former president as a "toxic" influence who has "sabotaged" the party.

    Former US President Donald Trump speaks to the media while departing a polling station after voting in the US midterm elections at Morton and Barbara Mandel Recreation Center in Palm Beach, Florida, on November 8, 2022.Former US President Donald Trump speaks to the media while departing a polling station after voting in the US midterm elections at Morton and Barbara Mandel Recreation Center in Palm Beach, Florida, on November 8, 2022.© EVA MARIE UZCATEGUI/AFP/Getty Images

    The day after the GOP failed to see the predicted "red wave" in the House, with a chance the Democrats could still control the Senate, The Post—which Trump once declared his "favorite newspaper"—ran a front page depicting the former president as Humpty Dumpty sitting on a wall with the headline "Trumpty Dumpty."


    The front page also mocks Trump's failure to live out his key 2016 presidential campaign promise to build a wall across the U.S.-Mexico border. It picks on his failure to fill the House and Senate with his MAGA and election-denying candidates on November 8, ultimately leading to the GOP's poor performance.

    "Don (who couldn't build a wall) had a great fall—can all the GOP's men put the party back together again?" The Post's standfirst said.

    The former president is further attacked in a column by The Post's John Podhoretz entitled "Here's how Donald Trump sabotaged the Republican midterms."

    In the opinion piece, Podhoretz said that the 2022 midterms are now the third straight national election—following the 2018 midterms and the 2020 presidential election—in which either Trump, the GOP or both, were "hammered" by the electorate.

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    "It's time for even his stans to accept the truth: Toxic Trump is the political equivalent of a can of Raid," Podhoretz wrote in reference to the bug-repellent spray.

    "What Tuesday night's results suggest is that Trump is perhaps the most profound vote-repellent in modern American history. The surest way to lose in these midterms was to be a politician endorsed by Trump. This is not hyperbole."

    Podhoretz adds that Trump's tactic of encouraging voters to support his MAGA or extremist candidates who back false claims that the 2020 election was rigged failed spectacularly, except for in deep-red states where a "Republican corpse would have beaten a Democrat."

    As a result, swing voters or moderate voters in races across the country "took one look at Trump's hand-picked acolytes and gagged."

    Podhoretz singled out John Gibbs as one example of Trump's "monomania" that ended up harming the GOP on election day.

    Trump had endorsed Gibbs, an election denier who had spread conspiracy theories that Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign officials took part in Satanic rituals, to unseat Representative Peter Meijer in the GOP primary for Michigan's 3rd district as Meijer was one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump in 2021.

    Gibbs went on to lose the national midterm election to Democrat Hillary Scholten.

    "In almost every place a Trumpster lost, there had been a regular Republican who could and should have been the party's nominee — a nominee who could have taken advantage of the uniquely horrible facts and fundamentals confronting Democratic candidates in 2022," Podhoretz wrote.

    "But then Toxic Trump came into these races, picking the candidate who bowed lowest—or, as in Pennsylvania, went for a snake-oil doctor salesman because, it seems, his wife enjoyed watching Mehmet Oz carny-bark on afternoon TV."

    Podhoretz also lists a number of other "losers" from the midterms vote who Trump had publicly vowed for, inducing far-right Pennsylvania Secretary for State candidate Doug Mastriano, Michigan gubernatorial hopeful Tudor Dixon and John Bolduc, who lost the New Hampshire Senate race to Democrat Maggie Hassan.

    "The British political figure Oliver Cromwell once said about other British politicians who had overstayed their welcome and were ruining the country, 'In the name of God, go,'" Podhoretz wrote.

    "Yo, Toxic Trump: Scram."

    The morning after the midterms polls opened, The Post featured Ron DeSantis on its front page after the Florida governor's election win, along with the headline "DeFuture."

    Bernard Tamas, associate professor of political science at Valdosta State University in Georgia, told Newsweek that the image of Trump as a "political heavyweight has taken a hit," following the midterm results.

    "His choice of candidates have had mixed success, and more importantly, lost critical elections that the Republicans had clearly expected to win," Tamas said.

    "It is clear that, while a Trump endorsement may help a candidate in the Republican primary, it is at best of little value when it comes to the general election."

    Newsweek has contacted Trump for comment.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
    edited November 2022

    I guess we better send Donald Trump and the Supreme Court thank you notes. If Trump hadn't inserted his big, fat self into the midst of things, and the Court had left abortion rights alone; the Republicans would have won many, many, many more seats.

  • ruthbru
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  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,617
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    cardplayer, your one cartoon says it all. The NY Post turned his back on Donald but now they are more or less endorsing DeSantis for 2024 and he is just as much a POS as Trump.

    I finished watching “God Forbid: The Sex Scandal That Brought Down a Dynasty" on Hulu. It is about Jerry Falwell Jr. and his wife Becki (btw, this is not Franklin Graham, a different evangelic preacher). Fallwell and Becki presided over Libery U. preaching purity, abstinence from unmarried sex and alcohol, mandatory attendance numerous times each week to church services, ect. Behind the scenes, she starts a rendezvous with a pool boy, Giancarlo Grande, at a fancy hotel, having sex with him while Falwell watched. Grande was 20, they were in their 40s/50s and had three teenagers at the time. The couple manipulated Grande for their own kicks. The relationship went on for years. In the meantime, Falwell helps Trump become president. Many twists and turns. Well worth watching if you have Hulu.

    Actually today, it dawned on me why my county went so far red. There is a very patriarchal Catholic university here; slowly it has continued to expand and its employees and their families move in and permeate the area, trying to revitalize the depressed city that it's in. The university has had numerous sex and financial scandals but the city officials continue to embrace it. It is creepy. That, along with a local Fox tv news station, a Republican owned newspaper, a Catholic run hospital here, no wonder Dems lost their foothold.


  • cardplayer
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    Thanks for recommendation divinemrsm. Will have to check it out.

    On a separate note - from our friends at faux news -

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  • ruthbru
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  • divinemrsm
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    Heather Cox Richardson ——


    November 9, 2022 (Wednesday)

    Yesterday was a good day for democracy. Americans turned out to defend our principles from those who denied our right to choose our own leaders. There was little violence, the election appears to have gone smoothly, and there are few claims of "fraud." As I write tonight, control of the House and Senate is still not clear, but some outlines are now visible.

    Usually, the party in power loses a significant number of congressional seats and state seats in the first midterm after it takes the presidency. Today, President Joe Biden spoke to reporters and noted that the Democrats had the best midterm elections for governors since 1986 and lost fewer House seats than they have in any Democratic president's first midterm in 40 years.

    That this election—the results of which are still coming in as I write—is so close is an endorsement of the nation's current path, despite the shock of inflation. As Biden said: "the overwhelming majority of the American people support the elements of my economic agenda—from rebuilding America's roads and bridges; to lowering prescription drug costs; to a historic investment in tackling the climate crisis; to making sure that large corporations begin to pay their fair share in taxes."

    Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) agreed with Biden on the Fox News Channel tonight, but for him it was a complaint: "Why did Democrats do better than expected? Because they have governed as liberals." And people appear to like a government that works on their behalf.

    Voters appear to have been far more motivated to protect abortion rights than many pundits thought. In Michigan, California, and Vermont, voters amended their state constitutions to protect abortion rights. In Kentucky, voters rejected a state constitutional amendment that would have restricted abortion rights.

    Former president Trump and his loyalists had a bad day. Trump endorsed more than 330 candidates in yesterday's races, including a number of high-profile people he had urged to run. They were extremist candidates whose key attraction was that they backed Trump's allegations that President Joe Biden stole the 2020 election from him, and he remained bullish on their chances until the end, telling a host for NewsNation: "I think if they win, I should get all the credit. If they lose, I should not be blamed at all."

    But when many of Trump's candidates lost yesterday, former supporters did indeed blame Trump. Former Breitbart editor Ben Shapiro tweeted: "Trump picked bad candidates, spent almost no money on his hand-picked candidates, and then proceeded to crap on the Republicans who lost and didn't sufficiently bend the knee. This will have 2024 impact."

    It is not at all clear that the election results will, in fact, end Trump's political career, but they do open up the possibility that Republican leaders will not be unhappy to see him moved offstage, particularly by events they can blame on opponents—events like indictments. In any case, Trump's status as the party's undisputed kingmaker is no longer secure.

    This seems likely to bring the Republican Party's simmering civil war into the open. Yesterday, Trump warned Florida governor Ron DeSantis not to run for president, hinting that he would tell reporters dirt about DeSantis if the governor did announce. ("I would tell you things about him that won't be very flattering—I know more about him than anybody—other than, perhaps, his wife," Trump said.)

    But DeSantis came out of yesterday's elections with a second term as Florida governor and looking strong indeed. He fared well with Hispanic voters and won his state with about 60% of the vote (it should not be overlooked that his new election security police clearly intimidated voters). If, in fact, the Republicans do end up taking control of the House of Representatives, presumptive speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) will have a delicate dance between MAGA Republicans who back Trump and those trying to move beyond Trump while keeping his voters.

    But the biggest winner yesterday was democracy.

    More than half of the Republican candidates on ballots were election deniers and either would not say that they would honor election results going forward or openly said they would not. That position appears to have hurt their chances of winning their elections. While some election deniers won their elections, more lost.

    Most notably, the story in Michigan was that of democracy, as Democrats won control of the state legislature for the first time since 1984. Governor Gretchen Whitmer was heavily targeted by former president Trump and made abortion rights central to her reelection. Both factors appeared to have helped her win, hold onto a Democratic attorney general and secretary of state, and flip both chambers of the legislature.

    There is a larger story here. For decades the Republicans who controlled the Michigan legislature had drawn heavily gerrymandered districts, the most recent so extreme that in 2019, federal judges called them a "political gerrymander of historical proportions." Voters amended the state constitution to require an independent, nonpartisan panel of 13 citizens to redraw the maps. While political competitiveness was not central to the criteria they used, it was the result.

    Michigan Republicans have challenged that new map through the courts, but on Monday the Supreme Court dismissed their appeal. The outcome of yesterday's elections suggests that what scholars have been saying for years is true: Republicans have won by gaming the system.

    The importance of that partisan gerrymandering—and the importance of today's Supreme Court in upholding that gerrymandering—showed up yesterday in the cases of four states in which Republican lawmakers simply refused to change maps that state courts had determined were illegal. In Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and Ohio, heavily gerrymandered maps stayed in place despite state court decisions that they were unconstitutional.

    Those four states make up almost 10% of the seats in the House of Representatives. According to congressional redistricting specialist David Wasserman of the Cook Political Report, those illegal maps were likely to hand five to seven seats to the Republicans that they would not have won without them. At the same time, Florida governor Ron DeSantis put in place heavily gerrymandered districts—so extreme that the Republican legislature balked—that were expected to turn four seats Republican and create a House delegation more than 70% Republican from a state that Trump won with just over half the vote in 2020.

    Gaming the system sets up a structural problem for democracy, of course, but also for the party in power. In safe districts, candidates don't have to worry about attracting voters from the other party and so worry only about being challenged by those more extreme than they are in the primaries (which are always dominated by the most fervent partisans). The party becomes more and more extreme and can stay in power only by continuing to manipulate the system.

    Eventually, though, they become so extreme they lose even members of their own party, as the Republican Party has done since Trump took it over. A new influx of voters—as we saw last night—can win elections, and then they will demand that the playing field be leveled back to fairness. Jack Lobel of Voters of Tomorrow, which is mobilizing Gen Z voters, told NPR's Rachel Martin today: "The far right is trying to attack us, they're trying to restrict our rights, and they're trying to take us back in time. [Young people] want to go forward…."

    Lobel mentioned abortion rights, economic rights, and building a better future, and he noted that the Democratic Party has stepped up for Gen Z. Certainly, organizers like strategy director of Voters of Tomorrow Victor Shi have been pounding the pavement to turn out their people.

    Exit polls from last night show voters in the 18–29 age bracket making up about 12–13% of the vote and preferring Democrats by much larger margins than any other group: as much as 70%. In 25-year-old Maxwell Frost (D-FL), elected last night, Gen Z has its first member of Congress.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,617
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    President Biden's granddaughter Naomi Biden is also getting married this month, Nov 19. She's Hunter Biden's daughter and Joe's first grandchild. [She was named after her aunt, the daughter Joe had with his first wife Neilia who was killed in the car crash at age 2 that also took Neilia's life.]

    She and fiancé Peter Neal plan to be married on the South Lawn of the White House.


    “Tiffany Trump and Naomi Biden, both getting married this month, have more in common than you might think"

    People Magazine/Thu, November 10, 2022

    • Donald Trump's daughter Tiffany went to college with Joe Biden's granddaughter Naomi.
    • Tiffany Trump and Naomi Biden, both lawyers, are both getting married in November.
    • They graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in 2016 and hung out together in the Hamptons.

    Former president Donald Trump's daughter Tiffany Trump and President Joe Biden's granddaughter Naomi Biden have more in common than one might think.

    Both Trump and Biden attended the University of Pennsylvania as undergrads. They went on to graduate from law school in 2020. Both announced their engagements in 2021, and are getting married in November within one week of each other.

    At Penn, Trump majored in sociology with a concentration in law and urban studies, while Biden majored in international relations.

    Trump went on to study law at Georgetown, while Biden attended Columbia Law School. Both graduated from law school in 2020 and announced their engagements the following year.

    Aside from their similar educational backgrounds, they've also been known to run in the same social circles. In 2018, Trump shared a photo with Biden on her Instagram story, adding two intertwined hearts over a black-and-white image of them sitting together on the water in the Hamptons, People magazine reported.

    This fall, Trump and Biden are getting married one week apart. Trump will wed fiancé Michael Boulos at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago club on November 12. Naomi Biden and fiancé Peter Neal's White House wedding will be held on November 19.

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    Maxwell Frost elected as the first Gen Z member of Congress

    Elena MooreNovember 8


    Maxwell Frost marching in Orlando's Pride Parade.


    Democrat Maxwell Frost has won in Florida's 10th Congressional District, according to a race call by the Associated Press, making him the first member of Generation Z elected to serve in the U.S. Congress.

    Frost was heavily favored to win the Orlando-based seat, which is solidly Democrat. He defeated Republican Calvin Wimbish by 19 percentage points. Frost will succeed outgoing Democratic Rep. Val Demings, who challenged incumbent Marco Rubio in the Senate. Rubio won his reelection, according to the AP.

    "History was made tonight," Frost tweeted. "We made history for Floridians, for Gen Z, and for everyone who believes we deserve a better future."

    The 25-year-old's victory marks a pivotal moment for progressive activists who came of voting age over the last decade and found their political voice in response to divisive issues including gun violence.

    I started Organizing at 15 because I didn't want to get shot at school. https://t.co/skaG2PGN6Z
    — Maxwell Alejandro Frost (@MaxwellFrostFL) November 5, 2022

    Frost, who has a background as an organizer, first became an activist after the mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., in 2012. Before running for Congress, he served as the national organizing director for March for Our Lives, a group that advocates for gun control policy.

    Gun control continues to be a top issue among younger voters. According to recent polling from Harvard Institute of Politics, 22% of respondents said it was either their most important or second most important issue – compared to inflation (45%,) abortion (33%) and "protecting democracy" (30%).

    Gun violence prevention was a core tenet of Frost's platform, along with supporting progressive policies like Medicare for all and a Green New Deal.

    Following the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, Frost confronted Florida's Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis at an event over the governor's second amendment views.

    I just asked @GovRonDeSantis to take action on gun violence so we can save lives. That we lose 100 people a day.

    His response? "Nobody wants to hear from you!" We are dying and our Governor is too busy helping @RubinReport make money. pic.twitter.com/LUOWQq3kQU
    — Maxwell Alejandro Frost (@MaxwellFrostFL) June 3, 2022

    Frost raised over $2.5 million and was endorsed by Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, Massachusetts Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey as well as the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

    When Frost takes office in January, he'll join a Congress known for lacking diversity in age – given the current membership is the oldest in U.S. history.

    But that could slowly be changing, according to Amanda Litman, the co-founder of Run for Something, an organization that supports young people running for state and local office.

    • "You see one 25-year-old run for Congress and win, you think I can do this too, and then more people step up. Someone is the first, more people are the second and the third, and the fourth," she told NPR.
    • "I am also very confident that because political engagement and political activity is a habit, it's a muscle, you build it and then it gets stronger and stronger and stronger," Litman added. "We are just seeing the beginning of Gen Z's engagement as political leaders."
  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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    The greatest achievement was at first and for a time a dream. The oak
    sleeps in the acorn; the bird waits in the egg; and in the highest vision of
    the soul, a waking angel stirs. Dreams are the seedlings of reality.

    James Allen

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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    Great entries that I so enjoyed reading this morning. Not only the memes which were great but Heather Cox Richardson (I rarely miss it) because I ran out of time when it appeared. Also, a very good piece on Gen X and Maxwell Frost. I hope the Democrats work harder than ever to support the young people because old white men have grown mainly too stupid to lead and to stubborn to get out of the way. They will have to be, shall we say, heavily nudged totally out of political existence.

    I do hope, while we may have some sticky times ahead, that it will tend to un-wind itself in the two yrs. while we wait for the next election. Hopefully there will be some roadblocks to what the Reps. can do and even if we only keep the Senate as it now is, I can live with it. I'd rather have a definite majority but sure don't want the Reps. to get that advantage too.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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    So hoping we can dump this loony.

    May be an image of text that says 'Middle Age Riot @middleageriot With any luck, Lauren Boebert is about to go from being the stupidest person in Congress to the stupidest person not in Congress.'

  • cardplayer
    cardplayer Member Posts: 2,051
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    Climate change will make this happen.

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