I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!
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"Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a weak man's idea of a strong man and and a stupid man's idea of a smart man."
Sums it up really, and Melania is a tacky woman's idea of a classy woman.
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I read somewhere when he was in France at the embassy he took a fancy to some of the art there, and took it. Remember when he first moved into WH he put it down, calling it shabby.
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Funny thing is, the art he stole were reportedly reproductions. Royals never put the really expensive stuff on display, for obvious reasons.
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Betrayal: I've never, ever thought of Melania Trump as classy in ANY way. While I could be wrong because I do know some people from other countries always sound a bit different speaking English, a time or two I've had the thought that she doesn't 'discourage' the foreign lilt to American words. If she is as 'bright' as she was made out to be, I think she would be speaking better than she does. Then again, I did read where Melania, and her mother and father along with Baron speak Slovenian when they are together. Donald is left out of discussions. I have no use for her and her stringy hair. If she has a stylist I hope she doesn't pay that person as much as Trump paid his because in my book they are worthless.
I also think many of her clothes are horrid. Slim people it has been said ( some truth there ) can where almost anything. They don't always look too good though. Melania has proven that a number of times.
My last gripe with her was that in Stephanie Wolcott's book she said that Melania wanted Trump to win the presidency and was not the reticent ( I really don't want to do this ) wife she allowed herself to be painted. Pretty much she was all in to be First Lady. Not sure but the Wolcott book made it sound like she fought tooth and nail to get the Be Best ( by the way Wolcott didn't like the program title at all either ) program off the ground but Trump and most of the men around him kept shoving it and Melania into the background as hard as they could. Trump apparently wanted Melania to be seen when needed and not bothered with her the rest of the time. That would be a bit typical of him. The spotlight is for him and not really anyone else.
I'm getting ready to watch the debate tonight although I detest having to watch and hear Donald ( I read in something recently that he actually doesn't like to be called Donald ) as much as most people here -- I'm watching for Biden. I do want to support him and of course, if Biden does do well I'd like to be in on all the nuances, looks, possible moderator input ( keeping or trying to, Trump in his place ) and listening during any breaks to those on the MSNBC panel that will be ready to fill in any break time.
Likely may be back here after the debate to check in.
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"Baron speaks Slovenian" ... I always thought children should learn to be bilingual when they're younger. Gives you another point of view.
Like Glennie & maybe Spookie, I can't stand to watch the orange one. I'll get my news in the printed paper in the morning, or on line later tonight if I'm still awake..
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Getting ready to watch the debate. We'll see how long I can handle it!
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Couldn’t do it. Having hard time even reading the early reviews. Going to bed while my stomach will let me sleep.
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I can’t watch either though I will turn on the TV later. I am literally sickened by the sight and sound of trump
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We survived the first debate, and it was appalling. Trump had to be shut down multiple times by Wallace, and he still wouldn't shut up. Joe tried to play the jokey card at times, but he did his best when he addressed the viewers directly.
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Just wow !!! It wasn't really a debate. It was supposed to be, but Drumph took care of that norm tonight. Don't know what they will do for the next two. It was VERY hard to watch. I can't say ( no matter how much I'll want to stand by Biden ) if I'll be able to get through two more of them.
I think I agree with Nicole Wallace, Rachel Maddow, and Joy Reid -- Drumph, if he had a debate prep ) was how to butt in and not let Biden finish a whole sentence or complete his ideas of what he would do to help us out of our current messes which are in fact huge. I'm sure many people see Drumph as having done a great job giving him an A. Well, that may be if you are going by the standard of chaos. That is not what people want to hear. They want to know how you intend to make their lives better. If you listened to Drumph tonight you will have absolutely no idea.
So, ( granted it is the MSNBC group ) Biden was the person on stage who gave out with real plans and ideas and who in fact managed to look and sound presidential. Almost everyone ( including those who were Reps. ) stated plainly that Drumph did not help himself one iota tonight. He will not get one single mind changed, nor is he at all likely to have swing voters suddenly decide they need to go with him. For those who haven't voted yet but were leaning toward Biden -- they are now leaning closer. It was ( even though so difficult to watch ) an extraordinary night. Trump was not trying to run against Biden -- he was running against the whole democratic voting system.
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So the concensus is that Chris Wallace performed poorly and as above "would not be able to be a kindergarten teacher of any worth". Why he could not shut the dickhead down is anyone's guess but why he could not shut off his mic is the great unknown. I did not watch in person but just read reams of reports from observers and had hoped Biden would have been able to check his retorts at times so he came off as the professional he is. drumpf enlisting the Proud boys was sad reach for him to regain his control over his base but also very scary. He is a racist and I am so surprised when I see how some Blacks and Latinos have drunk his koolaid believing he is in their corner. Omorosa used to sing his praises until she scratched the surface and let the real Donald out.
I don't think Melania is a well-educated woman as she has been touted since her once bragged about degree in architecture has been down-graded to "having taken courses". I do not see her as slim either since she wears very thick belts to delineate a waistline that she no longer has and they in turn accentuate her fake boobs and her tummy. She does possess very long legs which her stilettos emphasize. Yes, too bad that $70,000 didn't seem to include paying her hairdresser and it was a waste for his hairstyling. How can a combover cost so much?
She is arm candy as far as trump is concerned and he parades her out in hopes other men will envy him. I don't think he values her brains so that's why her program is a bust and whenever he does mention her name it is always an opportunity for him to be admired, not her. She's a possession, not a partner. I hope her pre-nup is in a trust fund because given his current financial status she may end up broke and she's a little too long in the tooth to go back to "modeling". I think they are both grifters, so a match made in heaven.
If he loves Ivanka as much as others claim he does then why did he jeopardize her future by employing her as an employee and as a consultant? But then if she is as smart as they claim she is, why did she participate in the charade they call a family business. She has a degree from Wharton as well. She still has options on Chinese trade deals (obtained by her father) though that has been downplayed given her role in the WH and he has the crust to chide Biden over Hunter's deal that have nothing to do with his dad's influence. When Biden was VP I did not see him employing his sons as assistants/consultants or whatever drumpf calls his relatives.
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Donald Trump is a white supremacist, he supports white supremacy; No if, ands or buts. The United States of America has for the past 3+ years had a white supremacist president. His rallying cry to all his white supremacist voters is "stand up and stand by." The President's call to arms.
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I was able to watch the debate til the end because I was stuffing 200 envelopes with voter registration forms, absentee ballot applications, info about the League of Women Voters' non-partisan voter info site, Vote411.org, a League booklet "First Vote" and a copy of the Constitution - which I will bring to our regional Homeland Security Office for distribution to new citizens who will take their naturalization oaths in drive-through ceremonies due to Covid-19 precautions.
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Excellent, Jelson!! Great work!!
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Many people believe that humility is the opposite of pride,
when, in fact, it is a point of equilibrium. The opposite of
pride is actually a lack of self-esteem. A humble person
is totally different from a person who cannot recognize
and appreciate himself as part of this worlds marvels.
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Well, here we are. An international embarrassment. I am sooo ambivalent. On the one hand Biden wishes to keep his word that he will participate in three debates. On the other hand, why should Trump be given a platform for destructive purposes? What to do??? I'm waiting to see what the Reps. will do !! Run away and refuse to answer questions !! Definitely those up for re-election should be holding their heads in their hands right now big-time. It they are going to go with Trump's White Nationalist/KKK/Proud Boys platform I don't see how they can come close to surviving. The thing is -- I never thought they had much chance anyhow.
So, are they going to try and save some semblance of an actual Reps. party which has not been in much evidence although none of them want to see it gone. Are they going to cower because they should come out and denounce what took place last night?? A lot of questions and not very clear answers. It has been up to now something that has been questioned -- but now all doubt has been removed. Trump is most definitely a White Supremacist who is going to sic' that group of people into doing as much damage as can be done. If I were a Reps. myself I'd have to be saying I give up. That is, unless all of you plan on being White Supremacist/KKK/Proud Boys too.
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Debate watching is not my thing, now or ever. But reading a few reports today about the one last night, my take is Biden was using this first one to see how Trump would play his hand. Biden didn't have to make any big plays just yet and he needed to not make any gaffes.
Do we know who the moderators are for the next 2 debates?
I haven't yet read "Melania & Me" but after reading The Art of Her Deal, I came away thinking Melania might be on the autism spectrum. I'm not saying that as any kind of dig. But she has few or no close friends, spends most of her time with her parents and son and she doesn't connect with the American public whatsoever. Very closed off. Employees inside the Trump residence say there is never any interaction between Melania, Barron and Trump. They never sit around the dinner table shooting the breeze, so to speak. They each reside in their own world but those worlds don't connect when they are out of the public eye. I can truly believe the Be Best campaign was minimized by Trump because it's all about him.
I do love the "Priden" comment about Joe Biden's support of the LBGTQIA community. He talks the talk and walks the walk. Sarah McBride is widely expected to be elected to the Delaware State Senate next month making her the nation's highest ranking transgender official. You may remember she was the first openly transgender person to speak at a major national party convention (Dems 2016) and to work at the White House interning during Obama's administration. All the Bidens consider her a part of their family, publicly praising her, and Joe wrote the forward to McBride's insightful autobiography "Tomorrow Will Be Different".
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Anyone who had the fortitude to watch that flaming Drumpster fire has my sincere admiration. I couldn't stomach even five minutes of it. I hate hearing the anus mouth's grating whine. Has there ever been a whinier person in public life?
I call his appeal White Grievance, rather than White Supremacy. All they want to do is complain about how unfair it is that they have to compete in life on their merits, not on the color of their skin or their gender. It's so terribly unfair. Wah.
It's like going through life life locked in a small room with a perpetually cranky toddler. Put a fork in me. I'm done.
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I watched the whole thing (while eating chocolate.....luckily I wasn't drinking wine or I'd have a huge hangover today). I think the more Trump talks, the more horrifying he sounds, so I am all for 'debates'. The trouble for anyone dealing with him (or any bully) is if you let them run roughshod over you, you look weak. If you engage, you don't look that great yourself. It was clear that Trump was the one initiating the nonsense & I think Biden did as well as anyone could against him. Unless you are a bully yourself (which apparently in the case of many people), you could not but be repelled by his behavior and his stated goal of disrupting and dividing our country even further. In future debates, the moderator should have the option of muting the mics (I'd prefer using a shock color when a candidate interrupts and/or lies.....but I suppose that is a bridge too far). When your words are being used as a slogan for a hate group......unless you are a hateful person yourself......you might want to rethink your message.
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I think Biden has to do the other two debates. Trump (and some voters) will consider him “weak" if he doesn't.
If the moderator can't control trump's microphone then maybe they can give Biden an air horn to blow at him when he starts going off on a tirade. Or maybe a spray bottle of water like my mom uses on her cats when they act up. “Bad cat" water
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ruth: I am all in favor of mic suppression but if that doesn't work (and he might just yell anyhow), the shock collar is fine with me. Would be less painful than being separated from your children/family because you are an immigrant, being forced to have a hysterectomy because you are in an immigrant camp, and all the other atrocities he has subjected people to in the past nearly 4 years. The moron doesn't even know how many months he has been president.
I think Biden should stick to his talking points, correcting drumpfs lies and maintaining his cool. Hard to do when under duress but joining into his tirades makes him a winner. I am in favor of the debates continuing because after last night drumpf is bringing the rope for his own lynching. Inciting the Proud Boys was an especially low point and shows his white supremacy leanings.
Trishyla: I think your comment about being in a locked small room with a cranky toddler is spot on. However, stick the fork in drumpf. I wish I had one of those dolls that resembed drumpf where you could tear off the velcro connected limbs and head and/or stick pins in. Just think of how satisfying that would feel.
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Commission for Presidential Debates is trying to change the format for the future 2 debates. Best solution would be cutting trump's mic when he goes crazy. But he would probably not agree with that. Rules have to agreed to by both candidates.
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If Trump won't agree to the new rules, then there will be no more debates. That would be perfectly okay for most decent people. Anyone who who says they're undecided at this point is either looking for attention or not very bright.
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Shock collar? Nah--how about a bucket of water, pie in the face, dunk tank or even trap door? Seriously, though, neither side would agree to a moderator (or even control room technical director) being able to manually activate a mic-kill switch. But I have read several online forum members make a workable suggestion: put each candidate in an enclosed booth (even in a town hall format) with sound piped in, but with their mic live only while it's their turn to speak and automatically go dead when the set time is up. That'd prevent heckling, as well as accusations of "unfair" mic-kill deployment.
And train the camera only on the (allowed) speaker, which would prevent at-home viewers from seeing either one (and we know which "one") make faces or rude gestures, or mouth anything silently--a la Chevy Chase's silent lip-sync mimicry schtick on the first season of SNL
So after telling the Proud Boys--whom he name-checked last night when asked to denounce white-supremacist groups--to "stand back and stand by" (now their new motto & online meme), today he first said he never heard of them and then that they should "stand down." (Nicole Wallace just referred to that as "trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube"). Of course, he will never explain the inconsistency between his statements because that would be an admission that he was wrong, mistaken or even "misspoke."
As to accusations of "people" seeing ballots with his name in a wastebasket, where is it written that someone can't change their mind after filling out but before casting an absentee ballot? In that case (if it happened), the only irregularity would have been not tearing up or not defacing the ballots before discarding them. "Ballots in the river?" That was a single load of general mail--not limited to ballots--found in a creek, and the carrier whose route that was is being questioned. (The unopened, uncast ballots are being dried out and salvaged). A "mail carrier" in WV "selling ballots?" Total bullshit--the "tell" is "I've heard," "people have heard," or "people are saying." That translates to "I'm talking out my ass."
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Before I check out memes, I give up most of my ambivalence, and will agree with you ladies that quite likely Biden should plan on finishing the debate cycle. I do take heart that the Commission clearly sees that scenes from last night have to be addressed in some way to provide an atmosphere that allows the strong possibility that 'both' candidates get a much more equal opportunity to present their case.
Trump, on WH driveway, just prior to leaving for Minnesota, claimed that he won last night's debate and he is anxious for the next one. Said that all the polls showed just that. Well, I would expect that. Nothing much that comes out of his mouth is accurate. This after Fox could not even back him this morning. He also claimed not to know who the Proud Boys were and this is consistent with his mental disease/irregularities. He claimed not to know David Duke. Interesting that his type of mental defect actually allows him to look sincere while telling his incredible whoppers.
I do hope that the Commission is able to find meaningful fixes. Trump has nothing going for him and he knows it. No plans, and he is well aware that as things stand he is way more likely to lose then not. He will have to have solid plans in place to ditch as much as the Democratic votes as he can. I'm not sure he can get there. He has used bluster for a long time ( a master ) and at this point ( too early ) it is not clear.
I think there are some un-decided but I would think they are a real minority. I'm thinking are they un-decided because they don't know who they are going to write in ( boo ) or because they just can't admit to anyone what they really want to do -- if it is something other than voting for Biden.
Sadly, I think my die-hard relatives may write in someone, or horror of horrors' go ahead and vote for Trump just so they can continue to be staunch REPUBLICANS, as they have always been.
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