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  • kathindc
    kathindc Posts: 1,667

  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,076

    Sure hope the man has some padding under his shirt. Looks like the cat is used to it.

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    Hey. Anyone still up ?

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    What's up Missy?

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    hey yea. It's you. Was just looking back at your ocean view again. Ah. Daydreams..... A good book and strawberry daiquiri. Ive been exhausted for s long time but tonght not sleepy. Hoping its a positive change just like my hip pain and nausea going away. Why are you up so late ?

    Hootie hoo

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    I'm not up late. You are. Haha. It's only 9:47 pm here. You have a boost of energy? Wonderful! How is Xeloda treating you so far? Any nausea?

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    DH arrived in Quinto, Ecuador 4:00 am today and had to ride 6 hours to Muisne. Hope the bugs are not too vicious over there. They had two aftershocks the last few days. In April, the same area was hit with a 7.8 earthquake. 650+ people died and over 22,000 injured. DH is there with a group of people from our church for 15 days. Not sure how much they can help

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    9:47 is late for me. Haha. Didn't realize where you are. Yes a wonderful boost of energy. X has been great so far. No nausea. I do take a daily probiotoc and probiotoc. Not sure which is stopping the daily nausea but I love it ! What was your high temp today ? We had a vlouduy day with a cool front. I think only like 90° today. Woohoo. Except the darn humidity was still high.

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Posts: 1,418

    Patty & Lover....

    I have SNL on, must be a old one.

    Lover, is your hip pain arthritis? I am sure you have explained this before, but I must of missed it.

    Patty, I was dx in early March with innumerable liver mets. It was painful, swollen & scary. Now 4 1/2 months later, liver looks good, but the stinkin Cancer is everywhere. I had a scan last week, think it's in my lungs. Trying to stay positive, just like you & Susan & others here. Full time job when you feel like crap. My fingernails are toast, the Taxotere was brutal on them. They hurt way more then my 2 compression fractures.

    Ok, sorry about the rant.....thank goodness I have you all to be honest with.

    MommaRay, post whatever. No worries if you can't edit, we do not need perfection. Heck, look at what Lover & Sasafrass posts.......lol....

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    LOL. Making fun of me Ay?? I love it! Thank you for your honesty.Yes MammaRay, don't go and delete all your posts.

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    hio. Sounds like s hard road. Boo. Sometimes positive is hard to do but its important. So hard when you feel sooo bad. I am thankful for makeup to cover tears. Best face forward, one foot in front of the other , yada yada yada. Keep on keeping on right ???

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    Patty, we hit 90 today. Way better than 101 and 100 a few days ago. So glad you don't have to deal with the nausea. I'm also on probiotics to help keep my stool close to normal. It works when I remember to take it regularly.

    Hiho, right hip pain is from osteoarthritis. It doesn't help when I try to move to the right and pound on it to return the badminton birdie. Broke my right foot three years ago trying to jump up to spike the bird. That's what I got for trying to look like the professional players. I still play twice a week. It helps me to forget that I am over mid 40s and that my body is slowly betraying me. I sometimes pay for it the next day though. The pain in the nails sounds horrible. I stubbed both of my big toes a few times while playing badminton and had lost the nails on each side at different times.It was painful each time. I can't imagine going through it with all your nails. OUCH.


  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    Hiho and Patty, I am curious. You both have mets to your bones. Wha is/was your Vitamin D level??

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    darn don't remember but do remember it was low and reading many articles about a connection. I take a vitamin d supplement daily and mo test my vit d level regularly. If it's too low we do rx vit d
  • shepkitty
    shepkitty Posts: 878

    Hey you nite owlies!

    Loverly~ My vitamin D was normal when my bone mets were found. It did crash about a year after DX. I take 4,000 IU daily now. I am wondering if the D definincy was a result of my increased intake of Fiorect? Fiorect blocks the absorption of D.

  • shepkitty
    shepkitty Posts: 878

    Patty -- did you get any relief from your ablation and kyphoplasty procedures? I had an L2 kyphoplasty last year that needs to be re-done and a now my L5 needs to be fixed too. I've been waiting over a month now for my surgeon to be able to get the equipment for the ablations he wants to do before shooting in the bone cement .

    So very happy you are finally get a break from some of your pain! My hip mets are usually fiercely painful. When they settle down it is the most wonderful feeling :)

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    shep. Yes I got much relief from the kyphos and ablations but seems like it didn't take long before something else fractured. I know my hospital only rents out the ablation machine and I usually have a wait also. Must be very expensive machine.

    Well it's after 1am and I am still going strong gonna say good night here and start some laundry. Gotta do what i can when I feel good.

    Hootie hoo. You owls

  • susan3
    susan3 Posts: 2,631

    good evening or good morning. Can't sleep either.

    Holeinone, sorry about the spread,

    I have nodes, rib, Lund and spine. But nothing has progressed to fractures . I guess I am one of the lucky ones. I can still walk 6 miles and bike 17. Occasionally I fall didn't my steps...but fir me, that's better than a bone scan..lol if I didn't break anything , than I guess my bones are still pretty strong. Lungs are print biggest problem . As long as I stray on flat ground I breath fine. Twice up and down steps and I am trying to suck in air.

    Pp, my heart gets out to you with your bone Mets and fractures and horrible pain. I pray thing ease up for you. Staying positive has to be hard. I am very impressed with your food delivery. Can't believe that never crossed my mind. Ahhhhh chemo brain.

    Hi lover

    Hope everyone else is having sweet dreams :)

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    Sleep attack. Bedtime for me soon.

    Warning: I might not make sense cuz the sleep fairy has arrived.

    Susan, don't stay up too late. Love the picture of Elena.

    Patty, you too. Don't want you to pay for it tomorrow or is it later today? Thanks for answering my question about vit d.

    Shepk, interesting. Was your D level at low, mid, or high normal? The bultalbital in Fioricet is related to phenobarbital (an inducer of cytochrome P450) which can affect the metabolism of D.

    Nite nite

  • shepkitty
    shepkitty Posts: 878

    Patty - awesome the procedures helped you; I feel a bit more hopeful now. Every doctor that sees my spine scans shakes his head and tells me "you got a lot going on"......sounds like that is a phrase you hear a lot too :( As long as they can keep glueing us back together, that's the important thing! Don't wear yourself out - get some rest and save some of that energy to spend some fun time with your boys ♥

    HiHo - Are you going to the surgeon for a consult or for a fixing Monday? Kyphoplasty ? Yay for the buggers in your liver going down! Chit about the lung mets. Can they be radiated or do you need chemo for them? Wish everything could be an easy fix.

    Susan - Elena looks like a little starlet hiding behind those big shades! Always such a cutie. Are you saying you occasionally fall down your steps? Cut that out! Nothing good will come of it! All that walking and bike riding.....you are a tuff one! Hoping your lung mets fade away.

    Loverly - I know my Vitamin D was normal, can't remember what range it was thouogh. I've been trying to chart out my meds by phenotype - interesting stuff. That's how I made the Fiorect connection. (yawning) I am nodding off while I am typing......

    Wishing everyone a restful night's sleep 🌛🌌

    Edited to clarify "Vitamin D was normal" - the other "D" wasn't the topic......don't want to alarm the SASinator ! 💩

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    Susan. Amazing all those miles walking and riding. Wow. Keep up thd good work. Surely it's gotta help with energy and depression and do much more. Rock on.

    One load laundry done. Not much else tk do since sis went so crazy on the housecleaning before she left.

    I finished mg lastinrary book last night :-(. Now they won't. Be open Til Monday. Guess I am turning on the tv snd hope it bores me to sleep

    Night all. Hootie hoo

  • JudyKRN
    JudyKRN Posts: 14

    So, it's after 4am here and to think at around 8pm I wanted to kick my company to the curb and go to bed! I've always been a night owl but it's worse now. I've been having nerve pain radiating down my right arm. An MRI revealed the pesky tumor in my axilla (and arthritis, as well) is the culprit. I started radiation last Thursday, so I've had two out of 10 treatments. Until I get relief, I can only sleep on my back with my head elevated on 3 pillows. And it seems the couch is a better bed than my real bed. I am hoping this radiation garage gives me some relief.......

  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Posts: 10,061

    Morning all,

    well during yesterday's adventure of weeding my flower bed earned me a mild sunburn. Didn't know it until my hubby was giving me a back rub that it had happened. Was wearing a tank top at the time, so only the shoulders and my neck area that got the sunburn. Looks like another hot and humid day on tap for us here. Under orders from hubby to not do much today because I exhausted myself yesterday.

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    judy I also find the couch more comfy then the bed. We've bought new mattress twice but still sleep on couch mostly. Jokingly told dh we need to toss bed and out two couches pushed together in our bedroom.

    Mommy. Take it easier today.

    I finally slept like an hour last night. Running full steam ahead today. Woohoo.

    Hootie hoo

  • shepkitty
    shepkitty Posts: 878

    Judy you came back! Good morning to you ☺

    Ack, sleeping comfortably shouldn't be a challenge. Resting is supposed to be easy and, well, restful! I have cancer filled nodes in my left armpit and left clavicle as well as the danged shoulder arthritis. The mets in my neck probably aren't helping anything either. I can commiserate with your pain and numbness. I hate it. The numbness is always in my hand and will run the length of my entire arm depending on what position it is in. The pain comes and goes......

    I've had rads bunches of times for bone mets. Sometimes I get relief in just a few days, sometimes it takes longer and sometimes there isn't any relief at all. Rads can take up to two months after your last treatment to show results. Frustrating when you need the relief right away. Hopefully you just need a few more visits for the results to show?

    I always get nausea from rads and take Zofran before I go. Lots and lots of moisturizer to the treated and surrounding areas will help your skin feel better and offer a bit of protection from damage.

    Check back in with us and let us know how you're treatment is going. We share all kindsa stuff here ranging from silly to serious. Good advise and good fun!

    Be sure to share any pictures of obese men in their underpants that you may have. LoverofLife will be missing her traveling Hubby and those images would be of great comfort to her 💜

  • shepkitty
    shepkitty Posts: 878

    M0mmy ~ What a sweetie your DH is! Back-rubs...........ahhhhhhh! Vinegar is an excellent sun burn soother. Just add a cup or two in your bath and have a nice soak. The vinegar will draw all the "sting" out of the burn. The vinegar scent will rinse away after you bathe. Milk in the tub works too - just don't use both at the same time.....ewww! I use undiluted vinegar for bug bites and stings. It works almost instantly.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    For Loverly... It's like every time we go to the Grocery Store, these guys are in there shopping.... in groups.... with ALL their clothes on, but you keep thinking... OMG.... OMG....OMG!!!! Because you just KNOW they know what you are thinking, and you are trying not to think it, but they just KNOW!!!


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  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    chevy. 🙌

  • junieb
    junieb Posts: 945

    Good Afternoon Ladies,

    I thought I'd only missed posting for a day and a half, but maybe longer, because I found I was 4 pages behind when I logged on today.

    Holinone & Mags - So sorry to hear of your progression. I hope your doctors will come up with Tx's that will slow/stop those nasty cancer cells.

    Wenchie - I know what you mean when you say how wonderful that first shower is. Don't be in too much of a hurry to get back to the mowing, that grass will keep growing and your mower will be waiting for you when you're ready. In the mean time, at least you have a nice husband who is willing to fill in until you get back to it. Bless him!

    Tomorrow I go for my nearly 6 week post-op appt. Taking the train at 1:00 p.m.

    I've been craving my chili recipe for awhile, so I cooked it yesterday. It has ground beef, ground pork, applewood smoked bacon, bell peppers, onions, and some other things. In the process I had measured out the 4 tblsp. of chili powder out, dumped that into pot, but when it came to the oregano I accidently grabbed the tablespoon again instead of the teaspoon. When I realize this I'm thinking, YIKES! now what. I decided to add an extra pound of ground beef and then adjusted the other seaonings. It is still tasty, but not quite what it would have been if I'd not made that mistake. I had used my 12 qt. stock pot and ended up with about 9 qts. of chili. Fortunately a couple of my neighbors like chili, so I shared some with them. Now I think I'm down to 5 qts. Freezer is full, so I'll be eating chili for at least the next week. There are worse things I know.

    I know I've shared in the past how my Mother has a VERY narcissistic personality and has always (I think) gotten great pleasure out of saying/doing things to cause me great emotional pain. Well just when I think I am beyond it all, she manages to yank my chain AGAIN. Two days ago she let it slip (yeah right) that she is selling her condo and buying a house. Well that isn't the issue. The issue is that she has been friends with a particular woman for approx. 10 years that takes her out to lunch/dinner, etc., goes berry picking each year, and so on, and is apparently going to be half owner of the new house. My Mother also informed me that that woman will inherit the house and all of the furniture when my Mother dies. My Mother and I have never had a normal/good, Mother/daughter relationship, but this is especially hurtful. For pete's sake she cut off all communication with me for 5.5 years because I tried to find info. about my biological Father. I guess I shouldn't be at all surprised. The only reason she has even started talking to me again was because the woman she's buying the house with hid the fact that she was so close to my Mother when I told her about my Dx, and she proceeded to tell my Mother about it rather than waiting to let me decide to do it myself. I GREATLY despise deceitful people.

    I truely don't need this added stress and wish we had just left things the way they were for the previous 5.5 years.

    In speaking with my sister, it turns out her Mother is just like mine and we have very similar stories. Ironic that our Father would marry the same type of woman twice.

    I want so badly to move somewhere way far away from here, but won't give up my MO & Orthopedic Oncologist (less than 50 O.O.'s in the whole U.S.).

    Well guess that is all for now. Will check back later. Thank you for allowing me to vent to you. Hope everyone has a good Sunday afternoon.



  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Posts: 10,061

    Put some Solarcaine that had aloe in it on this morning before I got dressed. Hubby would only let me clean my fish tank today and then he made me lay down for a bit because I had overdone things yesterday and my right hip was hurting. Before that we had to fix my recliner for the second time in a month as a couple of rivets busted thanks to when my friend from Tennessee was here a couple of years ago. She plopped down hard in my chair and sprawled out in it which caused the initial damage. Foot rest is completely broken and won't go down to close at all, even with the repairs my hubby and I have done. Trying to hang on to the recliner for as long as I can. Would love to get a new one but with having to have put in a new hot water heater in while hubby was laid up, we just can't swing the cost of a new one right now. So right now where the damage occurred, it's being held together by bolts, nuts and washers. Dang awkward to get in and out of the recliner.