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Topic: Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?

Forum: Moving Beyond Cancer —

Managing life after a breast cancer diagnosis, including rediscovering intimacy, coping with fear of recurrence, reconnecting relationships, sharing hobbies and interests, and finding inspiration in daily life.

Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 06:39PM

thedudess wrote:

Hi I am newly diagnosed and I know alot of people rely on their faith for support and find great peace with that, however I am a atheist and was wondering if anyone else here was also.

thanks

Dx 1/7/2008, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 3, 4/11 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 11, 2019 12:52PM ananda8 wrote:

SoCalLisa,

I agree.  I find lack of courtesy to be a type of failure in upbringing and a failure in living a well lived life.  One can be outspoken and passionate about causes and still be courteous. I sense that in the current political climate, courtesy is under attack and that lack of courtesy is spilling over into the social realm.


"As soon as we abandon our own reason, and are content to rely upon authority, there is no end to our troubles." B. Russell
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Feb 11, 2019 01:12PM MinusTwo wrote:

Lisa: I agree too. For awhile I mailed presents or gift cards. Now if I send anything besides a card, it's a check. That way I know if the check is cashed, they received the present.

One time I asked a nephew at age about 14 who lived on the other side of the country if he'd received a B-day card I sent. He said - "oh yeah, but there was no money enclosed." He said it was a 'rule' that aunts had to send money and why did I bother to even send a card if there was no money? Needless to say I responded that I wouldn't bother him by sending a card again.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Feb 11, 2019 02:26PM Wren44 wrote:

That nephew sounds like a Wall Street Banker.

Lumpectomy and re-excision followed by mastectomy of right breast. Five years of anastrasole completed.
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Feb 11, 2019 08:29PM jo6359 wrote:

Minus2- a few years ago I notified my nieces and nephews if they did not acknowlege my card or money in a 1 year span, I will not send any more checks. I will continue to send cards because I believe in setting an example. I send cards and checks(small ones) for every major holiday-Valentines, St.Pats, Easter, July 4th, Halloween, Thanksgiving and XMas. They didnt care about the card but they cared about the money. Its poor manners. Face to face, they all, well most, have good manners.

I have sad news. My dear friend passed away this evening. She did not suffer as per the doctor. Saturday, she was talkative and painfree. Im happy my last words to her was I love you and Im taking good care of your dog. She told me she loved me and as soon as she is home from the hospital she wants Bella Her doctor stated the cancer had went to her lungs and brain. She died less than 1 year from her reoccurence.. She had DCIS 7 years ago and had lumpectomy and radiation. She had a wonderful 7 years prior to the reoccurence. She could not tolerate the Chemo. Im rambling. Im going to have a good cry. She was not religious but believed in "people being kind to others"

Dx 1/29/2018, DCIS, Right, Stage 0 Dx 1/29/2018, IDC, Right, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 1/18 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ (FISH) Targeted Therapy 2/15/2018 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Targeted Therapy 2/16/2018 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 2/16/2018 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Feb 11, 2019 08:45PM MinusTwo wrote:

jo - sorry for your loss. Holding you close in my thoughts.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Feb 11, 2019 09:24PM DearLife wrote:

Jo I am so sad to hear your news. I hope that remembering your friend in happier times will help you in the days to come. ❤️

I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Joni Mitchell Dx 12/1/1998, LCIS, Right Dx 1/9/2018, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 2/26/2018 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Dx 3/1/2018, DCIS/IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Hormonal Therapy 4/16/2018 Femara (letrozole) Radiation Therapy Whole-breast: Breast
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Feb 11, 2019 09:35PM Wren44 wrote:

Jo, Always hard to lose a friend. It's good that she felt pretty well until the end. Yes, try to remember the good times to get through the sadness. Will you keep the dog? Or will family want her?

Lumpectomy and re-excision followed by mastectomy of right breast. Five years of anastrasole completed.
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Feb 11, 2019 10:14PM Trishyla wrote:

I'm so sorry for your loss, Jo. I lost a dear friend to breast cancer a little over a year ago and I still miss her terribly. I hate this horrible disease.

Trish

Dx 8/30/2016, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 8/30/2016, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Dx 9/6/2016, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 9/28/2016 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery 4/4/2017 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): DIEP flap; Reconstruction (right): DIEP flap
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Feb 11, 2019 10:35PM santabarbarian wrote:

I am sorry for your loss. And I am glad your friend had you, to step in to care for her dog. That must have been a huge comfort.

Dx 7/13/2018, IDC, Left, 3cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2- (FISH) Chemotherapy 8/12/2018 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 12/27/2018 Lumpectomy: Left
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Feb 12, 2019 02:57AM - edited Feb 12, 2019 02:57AM by AliceBastable

Jo, I am so sorry for your loss. But how nice that your last conversation was so loving, and that you'll have that memory to cherish.

Endometrial cancer 2010, basal cell multiples, breast cancer 2018, kidney cancer 2018. Cancer's a bitch, but I'm a bigger one with more practice. Dx 5/2018, ILC/IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 7/11/2018 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Surgery 8/8/2018 Radiation Therapy 10/29/2018 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes
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Feb 12, 2019 09:49AM ananda8 wrote:

Jo, 


"As soon as we abandon our own reason, and are content to rely upon authority, there is no end to our troubles." B. Russell
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Feb 12, 2019 10:07AM NanfromOntario wrote:

Jo- So sorry for your loss, I lost my closest friend to BC a while ago, before I go it, cancer sucks man. Hugs to you.

Dx 5/30/2017, LCIS/DCIS/IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IB, Grade 2, 1/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 6/29/2017 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 9/20/2017 3DCRT: Breast
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Feb 12, 2019 07:42PM jo6359 wrote:

Thanks so much for your kind words. My friends' granddaughter informed me today she would honor her grandmothers wishes RE: memorial service. There will be a celebration of life ceremony without a religious componet. Her grandmother would be pleased.

Dx 1/29/2018, DCIS, Right, Stage 0 Dx 1/29/2018, IDC, Right, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 1/18 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ (FISH) Targeted Therapy 2/15/2018 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Targeted Therapy 2/16/2018 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 2/16/2018 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Feb 12, 2019 09:03PM ananda8 wrote:

This short essay always gives me comfort when someone I love dies. 

"As soon as we abandon our own reason, and are content to rely upon authority, there is no end to our troubles." B. Russell
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Feb 12, 2019 10:39PM jo6359 wrote:

ananada-Thank You.

Dx 1/29/2018, DCIS, Right, Stage 0 Dx 1/29/2018, IDC, Right, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 1/18 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ (FISH) Targeted Therapy 2/15/2018 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Targeted Therapy 2/16/2018 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 2/16/2018 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Feb 12, 2019 10:52PM TB90 wrote:

Ananda: And others here. Your knowledge of everything and your ability to support your knowledge with documentation, research and experience has me in absolute awe. It is such a gift to experience such brilliant and sensitive women. I go on my long walks in the snowfall and often think about your words of wisdom.

Dx 11/28/2013, DCIS, Grade 2 Surgery 12/17/2013 Mastectomy: Left Radiation Therapy 2/19/2014 Breast
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Feb 12, 2019 11:49PM - edited Feb 13, 2019 11:12AM by ananda8

TB90,

Thank you for your kind words.  

"As soon as we abandon our own reason, and are content to rely upon authority, there is no end to our troubles." B. Russell
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7 hours ago wanderweg wrote:

ananda, that little essay is beautiful.

weakly ER+, TNBC on oncotype Dx 5/10/2018, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Surgery 6/10/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 8/7/2018 Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Chemotherapy 8/31/2018 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Hormonal Therapy 12/1/2018 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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6 hours ago ananda8 wrote:

Here is another article by the same Aaron Freeman.  This one makes me want to think about myself as a particle. https://www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/may-2005/essay-aaron-freeman


"As soon as we abandon our own reason, and are content to rely upon authority, there is no end to our troubles." B. Russell
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6 hours ago DearLife wrote:

As well as being a physicist, Aaron Freeman is a writer and stand up comedian. Here is his response to the question of god:

Beliefs
In circa 2013, Freeman, in response to a query by Deborah Mitchell, who devoted a chapter of her book Growing Up Godless (2014) to his eulogy, about if he believes in god, responded with the following comedic like agnostic or polite atheist's creed (see: atheist's creed):

"I believe in Nike, goddess of victory; Anapurna, goddess of food; Sophia, of wisdom, Shango, of the sky; and absolutely in Dionysus, of wine making and theater!"


I have always loved the goddesses, perhaps in defiance to patriarchy or just in good humour, so this amused me.

I've looked at clouds from both sides now. Joni Mitchell Dx 12/1/1998, LCIS, Right Dx 1/9/2018, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 2/26/2018 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Dx 3/1/2018, DCIS/IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Hormonal Therapy 4/16/2018 Femara (letrozole) Radiation Therapy Whole-breast: Breast

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