Topic: Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?

Forum: Life After Breast Cancer — Managing life after a breast cancer diagnosis, including rediscovering intimacy, coping with fear of recurrence, reconnecting relationships, sharing hobbies and interests, and finding inspiration in daily life.

Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 06:39PM

Posted on: Jan 18, 2008 06:39PM

thedudess wrote:

Hi I am newly diagnosed and I know alot of people rely on their faith for support and find great peace with that, however I am a atheist and was wondering if anyone else here was also.

thanks

Dx 1/7/2008, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 3, 4/11 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 16, 2011 01:36PM 3monstmama wrote:

My brain doesn't hurt----I'm just trying to figure out how I can endear myself to the new lords and masters of the universe. . . . .hmmmm time for a refresher on all that sci fi reading from my youth!

Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
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Feb 16, 2011 02:17PM molly52 wrote:

Anybody read Issac Isamov's (sp) "I Robot"?

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Feb 16, 2011 03:36PM chumfry wrote:

"I, for one, welcome our new robotic overlords!" <hee-hee>

Hubby and I have been watching Battlestar Galactica on Netflix and I'm fascinated by the Cylons and what it means to be "human."

(Don't anyone tell me the ending because we're only on Season 2.5.) :D

I don't know if this is too simplistic for a "meaning of life," but I feel comforted by trying to help as many people as I can, while hurting as few people (including myself) as possible.

I've noticed that some of my religious friends bring up the "meaning of life" when I tell them I'm an atheist. They say: "Well, if there's no god and no judgment, then what's the point?" My answer usually is something like: "Why does there have to be a point?" To me, that mindset seems more about humans trying to make themselves feel more important than they really are.

--CindyMN

Dx 8/31/2005, medullary, 4.5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Dx 9/2/2005, IDC: Medullary, Left, 2cm, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 16, 2011 03:40PM Bren-2007 wrote:

Hi Chumfry ... my question is .. why does it even have to be about judgment?  What's that got to do with anything. 

Bren

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Feb 16, 2011 04:14PM River_Rat wrote:

Bren, I agree.  I don't need the threat of judgment to do as I perceive right.  As for my purpose, I just try to learn from others and teach and help others as I can, and give and receive love.

Fear is the highest fence. ~Dudley Nichols
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Feb 16, 2011 04:22PM socallisa wrote:

I find that most people think in terms of beginnings and endings, but really, maybe the universe, changing all the time, has been here forever and will continue to be here forever. Of course, some

entities come and go but the changing whole will be here or there forever.

Biography: DX 11/2000 LCIS,DCIS,IDC 2B, Grade 1, ER+,PR+ Her2Neg 1 pos node Lumptectomy, CMF chemo X 6 mos, DX 8/2001, IDC same breast--Mastectomy , Left Breast Lumpectomy... Tamoxifen, one year...Armidex, Four years
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Feb 16, 2011 05:39PM molly52 wrote:

Agreed.  Free will.  Amazing concept, we can be as nice as we want to for no reason at all.

However, have heard of a few studies that found people to be happier / live longer/better when they do charitable acts. 

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Feb 16, 2011 06:07PM flannelette wrote:

I have thought of this, too. Perhaps the universe has been here forever - it is a concept we really cannot understand with our rational minds, because everything in it comes and goes. One Hindu  notion is that of the god Shiva dancing it into creation, then dancing it down, endlessly. and you have to wonder about the Big bang theory - yes, the universe is expanding, but I don't know if the jury's still out on whether it will at some point begin to contract again - then what? nothingness and then another Big Bang? Certain religious leaders quite like the Big bang theory as it allows for a mover - a creator - behind the Big Bang. Not up on current scientific theories - this I gleaned from my studies 10 years ago so no doubt out of date. so wish I had dial-up!

About our purpose here - nothing wrong IMHO with love, love, love. Perhaps it - compassion, empathy, kindness -creativity? are currently the ultimate in the being human dept. oh-perhaps add enlightenment, for some. Once, when asked the purpose of life, the Dalai Lama thought, then said "to be happy and to make others happy". so simple sounding. But much deeper than how it appears on the surface.  Much of what the Dalai lama says seems simple - but he is a great scholar and a very, very happy person - and I do believe he knows what he is talking about.

Another thought - perhaps we are all moving in our evolution, towards enlightenment - which, as far as I can see, is seeing reality as it really is. which is not from our conceptual mind. (Been reading Eckhart Tolle). going with the flow.....

Dx 7/2008, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIB, 0/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 7/30/2008 Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 10/1/2008 CEF Radiation Therapy 1/10/2009 Hormonal Therapy 2/15/2009 Arimidex (anastrozole) Dx 7/20/2012, 0/6 nodes Surgery 7/20/2012 Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary
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Feb 16, 2011 07:41PM socallisa wrote:

Actually almost all last week's Time magazine focused on Singularity..

My father was a genius and I often wished there were some way his

brain contents could be saved..however, it is his reasoning ability  too..

lots to mull over

Biography: DX 11/2000 LCIS,DCIS,IDC 2B, Grade 1, ER+,PR+ Her2Neg 1 pos node Lumptectomy, CMF chemo X 6 mos, DX 8/2001, IDC same breast--Mastectomy , Left Breast Lumpectomy... Tamoxifen, one year...Armidex, Four years
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Feb 16, 2011 11:55PM molly52 wrote:

Are we really "here" or are we figments of a collective imagination?

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