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Forum: Moving Beyond Cancer —

Managing life after a breast cancer diagnosis, including rediscovering intimacy, coping with fear of recurrence, reconnecting relationships, sharing hobbies and interests, and finding inspiration in daily life.

Posted on: Oct 24, 2019 05:42AM

wanderweg wrote:

After some back-and-forth on “Is anyone with BC an atheist besides me?” about whether or not political comments should be allowed, I decided to start a new thread. To make way of thinking, the current political situation is inextricably linked with religion, since the Republican Party actively pushes for mandated religious positions and insist that that is a Christian nation. So mostly, this is here for people who’d like to talk about their BC experience without fending off talk of prayers and having faith, but also a place where political commentary isn’t prohibited.

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Jan 18, 2020 05:45PM ananda8 wrote:

I like Klobuchar. I would love to see Trump try to walk behind her in a debate like he did with Clinton. Klobuchar would clock him.

“Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.”
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Jan 18, 2020 07:12PM LaurenInPHX wrote:

omg that was so creepy when he did that. And yes. She would clock him and smile the whole time haha.

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Jan 20, 2020 08:47AM - edited Jan 20, 2020 09:01AM by Yogatyme

santabarbar, LOVE that positive affirmation!! Sent it to DH and DB. They will also love it.

Happy MLK day! I wonder what he would be saying about our current political and social climate. I know it’s weird to be posting this on this thread, but I have always viewed MLK from his activist persona than religious perspective.

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Jan 20, 2020 09:06AM ananda8 wrote:

In honor of the day:
Cowardice asks the question - is it safe?
Expediency asks the question - is it politic?
Vanity asks the question - is it popular?...
But conscience asks the question - is it right?
And there comes a time when one must take a position
that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular;
but one must take it BECAUSE it is right.
- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

“Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.”
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Jan 20, 2020 09:30AM Yogatyme wrote:

ananda, love that quote!

Yogatyme Surgery 3/3/2019 Prophylactic ovary removal Dx 7/19/2019, IDC: Papillary, Right, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 8/13/2019 Mastectomy: Left, Right
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Jan 27, 2020 10:46AM ananda8 wrote:

Time to call your Senator and tell them Americans want to hear witnesses and have documents produced.

Call 202-224-3121.

“Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.”
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Jan 27, 2020 11:25AM Wren44 wrote:

My son posted this on Facebook:

Trump could murder someone on the floor of the senate and he would be acquitted 53-47.

Unless he murdered a republican, then the vote would be 52-47.

Lumpectomy and re-excision followed by mastectomy of right breast. Five years of anastrasole completed.
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Jan 27, 2020 12:26PM ananda8 wrote:

Call anyway. I called my very Republican Senator, John Boozman. No, I didn't waste my time calling the PTSD burdened and general crazy person, Tom Cotton.

Calls do work.

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Jan 27, 2020 09:34PM Miriandra wrote:

Brilliant!!! xD


"Trump could murder someone on the floor of the senate and he would be acquitted 53-47.

Unless he murdered a republican, then the vote would be 52-47."

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Feb 9, 2020 05:01PM - edited Feb 9, 2020 06:26PM by IllinoisLady

Thanks for the link Ananda -- now this is in my favorites. I may be even too wild and wooly to post here but I will say this. My cancer dx. changed me. I was a pretty quiet person where politics was concerned then. I had may of the same thoughts, but so as to 'allow' others to have their feelings I seldom 'discussed' politics. After retirement when my extended family ( mainly Dh's side ) starting cramming their Republicanism on quite often me, and seeming to expect me to thank them for it and go their way, I figured for what I had been thru I just wasn't going to allow anyone to do to me what I had always been un-willing to do to them.

Dh and I finally made the rule that if they wanted to talk politics don't invite us over -- you can't change us, and you people think you are far to smart to need change. In this area we have almost nothing in common. This has worked for several yrs. now. DISCLAIMER for anyone thinking it might work for them. I am roughly the only female left to cook for these men so I do have a built in bonus for getting my way.

Thanks again Ananda and as well MinusTwo for letting me know that I had 'likely' posted somewhere I didn't mean too.

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 9, 2020 10:21PM ananda8 wrote:

Welcome. :)


“Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.”
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Feb 10, 2020 07:43AM IllinoisLady wrote:

Going to Marion V.A. today. Hope you all have a good day. Wishing sun and nice weather. Wish the sun were out here but rain ( a lot ) last night.

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 11, 2020 11:57AM IllinoisLady wrote:

I believe that all people's lives will be filled with constant, unexpected encouragements. . . if they make up their minds to do their level best each day of their lives—that is, try to make each day reach as nearly as possible the high water mark of pure, unselfish, useful living. - Booker T. Washington

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 12, 2020 08:34AM IllinoisLady wrote:

Hard to watch what Trump and Barr are up to. I can't imagine they will get away with it. The sentencing judge, Amy Berman Jackson will make the decision on sentence. Just wow. Is there another impeachment coming -- for Barr?

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 12, 2020 09:50AM santabarbarian wrote:

Time to occupy Washington. I have my sign, as BC survivor: "Ask me how to get rid of a diseased boob."

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Feb 12, 2020 11:36AM IllinoisLady wrote:

Happy

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 13, 2020 08:33AM IllinoisLady wrote:

It is always ( especially with the orange one ) a good time to be vigilant and never miss an opportunity to call your representatives to protest the WH, Barr and Reps. who refuse to do their jobs.

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 13, 2020 09:02PM Miriandra wrote:

LOL!! I love your sign, santabarbarian!

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Feb 14, 2020 09:05AM IllinoisLady wrote:

Things are going on:


Trump responds to AG Barr's tweet slam, claiming 'legal right' to influence Justice Department's cases

President Trump on Friday asserted he has the "legal right" to order Attorney General Bill Barr to do anything he wants in criminal cases handled by the Justice Department –...

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Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 15, 2020 07:24AM IllinoisLady wrote:

Listen to your life. See it for the fathomless mystery that it is. In the boredom and pain of it no less than in the excitement and gladness: touch, taste, smell your way to the holy and hidden heart of it, because in the last analysis all moments are key moments, and life itself is grace.

Frederick Buechner

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 15, 2020 06:31PM wanderweg wrote:

IllinoisLady, that's beautiful.

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Feb 16, 2020 09:15AM IllinoisLady wrote:

Coming to appreciate your worth can, in some cases, dramatically improve your circumstances by changing the choices you make and the actions you take.

And as you begin to treat yourself with more respect, other people begin to do the same, since we subconsciously "train" others how to treat us through messages we send through body language, tone of voice, and other subtle cues and behaviors.

Discovering your innate worth and living from that place allows you to make more constructive choices--to choose the higher roads of life.



Dan Millman
Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 16, 2020 01:27PM magiclight wrote:

Who gets to discover their innate worth? Clearly, not migrant children. Note the words "mandatory therapy" From today's Washington Post:

"To bolster its policy of stepped up enforcement, the administration is requiring that notes taken during mandatory therapy sessions with immigrant children be passed onto ICE, which can then use those reports against minors in court. Intimate confessions, early traumas, half-remembered nightmares — all have been turned into prosecutorial weapons, often without the consent of the therapists involved, and always without the consent of the minors themselves, in hearings where the stakes can be life and death."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/natio...

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Feb 16, 2020 02:57PM IllinoisLady wrote:

I think that is called screw**g you any way we can. Then again, looking at the source leaves such little room for surprise. Drumph and co., have terrorized so many people and why not -- the WH has managed to get away with so much -- even an impeachment. I do think though that at some point those who wish to dance will have to pay the fiddler, otherwise known as an election. Right now it seems to be there are a lot more people ( between the machinations of Trump and Barr ) who are fed up, tired of the chaos and VERY tired of the disgusting and criminal things that are going on, that I hope by election time there will be a much bigger blue wave than 2018. Hope I'm not wrong.

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 16, 2020 04:06PM ananda8 wrote:

There is an 8.8% difference between Trump's disapproval rating and his approval rating. That gap has be narrowing since the impeachment. There used to be a 12.5% difference. With voter suppression in Republican controlled states, that disapproval gap becomes even narrower. Right now, I think things are a toss up. I am worried. We need a massive voter turnout.


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Feb 16, 2020 07:51PM - edited Feb 16, 2020 07:54PM by IllinoisLady

Image may contain: 1 person, possible text that says 'Trump says his life was better before he became president. I understand. My life was also better before he became president CALL TO ACTIVISM'

Yes and that means we have to vote -- all of us, and to encourage everyone we know to vote, and if there is someone who needs a ride to go vote, offer to take them. It is so important.

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 17, 2020 06:12AM T-Dahl wrote:

Thank you ladies for this thread! I woke up this morning thinking about everything this thread speaks to! I have very similar feelings about the state of affairs in our nation. It’s hard for me to talk about things I don’t like/want because I believe in attraction & drawing things into your experience. So rather than bashing what we have (although I think the cheese doodle in office is a joke!)

I try and focus on what is going to bring the people of our country back together and what we all need to focus on going forward rather than just constantly rehashing every stupid thing that happens. I read every comment on here & agree with y’all. I am saving this to my favorites & will continue to be a supporter!! ✊🏽✌🏽


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Feb 17, 2020 08:15AM IllinoisLady wrote:

Your best shot at happiness, self-worth, and personal satisfaction—the things that constitute real success—is not in earning as much as you can but in performing as well as you can something that you consider worthwhile. Whether that is healing the sick, giving hope to the hopeless, adding to the beauty of the world, or saving the world from nuclear holocaust, I cannot tell you. - William Raspberry

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 17, 2020 09:29AM - edited Feb 17, 2020 09:48AM by magiclight

Illinois...I went back to read some to William Raspberry's columns from the WPost and found them pertinent today. Unfortunately, the potential political disasters of the current administration never really went kablooey and the Drumpt parade of characters, led by the moronic president are accepted by too many Americans, as being OK. I'm looking forward to spring so I can get out in my yard and work in earth's life giving dirt rather than the crushing, mind bending acceptance of the everyday political dirt coming out of the white house.

Here is the poem I discovered as my mind wandered into the idea of good dirt: Ode to DIrt by Sharon Olds

https://sharedwonder.wordpress.com/2015/10/31/ode-...


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Feb 17, 2020 11:08AM IllinoisLady wrote:

magiclight, what a beautiful poem and very refreshing as well as relaxing. It speaks and I'm sure after reading some of your posts you'll know exactly what I mean. Here is one of my favorite quotes:


We plant seeds that will flower as results in our lives, so best to remove the weeds of anger, avarice, envy and doubt, that peace and abundance may manifest for all.

Dorothy Day

Quotes are my way of trying to cope with the chaotic barrage of a daily Trump who is always destructive rather than the other way. There are times when I want to give up yet knowing I've so seldom given up on anything. As a person of the universe I feel like I have to go on as best one can because for me what goes wrong, if given time can reverse to go right. There are in everything opposites and what is bad can revert to good. So, I try to keep in mind pictures not of losses ( we have plenty of those right now ) but gains and things finding the light and the path to go right. Always keeping the picture of coming out from a dark tunnel into light.

Just my opinion, but I am starting to feel that there 'could' be many Reps. people who no longer favor Trump. As he does destructive things he is including his own party -- and sadly doesn't give a whit or a whistle. Many who had thought making such a drastic change would be the thing have since found their hopes dashed aside. They are not Senators or government people, they are just ordinary people trying to get along who know when they have been done wrong and left by the way to manage on their own. Only time will tell.

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-

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