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Hi sweetie, Welcome to the bar! Of couse all of us here believe in drinking, so you can come here and drink all you want! Don't know about the cigs, but maybe that patch will help. Just don't smoke when you have the patch...my late DH smoked with the patch and that may have contributed to his fatal heart attack. Come here and pull up a barstool and escape from the bc crap.....this is a good place to have fun! Sorry you have a reason to be here, but you came to the right place!
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Wahine I live about two hours drive north west of Adelaide in a little town called Burra. That 'greeting', is definately a south australian one.........my brother used to say it to me all the time. I hadn't heard it for ages as that particular brother died of mesothelioma and esophageal cancer three years ago. Thank you for the memory.
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Oh, thanks for the compliment re avitar..........the two boys are my grandsons........lol.......when they are with me it's often commented that they are mine........well they are...sort of!...lol ...just one generation removed.
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Chrissy, So sorry to hear about the loss of your brother, but glad I brought back a memory of something he said. Your town must be delightful! We loved Adelaide as it was so laid-back, but with a lot of history (stayed in the former treasury bldg w/ underground railcar tunnel from days gone by). And not far from the beach! I imagine your town might be very laid-back too, since it is not too far from Adelaide, and without the hustle-and-bustle of Sydney or Melbourne. But it looks like I will be visiting too far away to get a chance to meet you. Bummer. I need to brush up on my aussie slang...like for McDonalds (is it Mackas?), and gobsmacked, jumpers (for sweater), etc. (Help me out here!). I hope the weather will be nice! Right now we are having thunderstorms, and day temps are upper 90's to 100F. Your grandsons look so cute!
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Wahine, you are right with the list so far....give me the hometown word and I'll translate........my brain doesn't work well if I need to come up with things. When are you due to arrive? Maybe I could talk DH into letting me go to Sydney or Melbourne for a weekend....that would be fun.
My boys are too cute for words.......the tallest one is a brilliant artist, I'll see if I can upload a pencil drawing he did last year....it took him an hour! The little one is a very good archer...he never misses club days and his coach is getting him ready for nationals next year. Can't tell I'm very proud of them can you?
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Lori - yes, that stupid Taxol is taking my lashes and brows!!! I have a hole in one of my brows. Now it's taking me longer to draw them on! Darnit!!! Since I'm on the longer treatment, I guess that means I will be without lashes and brows for longer! I'm going to look like a train wreck in the photos for my sister's wedding!!!
Cheers everyone! Boy, a cocktail sounds really good right now. I haven't had a drink since June! OMG!!!!!
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Sweet - one of my friends smokes and she's been going through chemo (just finished). Depending on what they do with you, they may suggest you stop smoking when you have surgery (especially if you have a mastectomy & reconstruction). It might prolong the healing process. I don't smoke, so it wasn't an issue for me. I was drinking until I got really into chemo. I'll start up again when I'm done. I love a good glass of red wine (and other drinks, too).
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okay, saw the name and had to come in!! two things - i've been drinking so won't be able to remember a lot of what i read, but 2, smoking ... "suggest you stop" are you friggin kidding me? I was a 35 yr plus smoker, so i know the pain, but "suggest" ? is pollyanna alive and well? you have to stop smoking people --- you may have dodged the lung cancer bullet for the breast cancer one, but trust me ... you don't want lung cancer. if i could stop afer 35 years anyone can. do it for yourselves kids, really
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bu...i never ever want to sound miltant so if you do smoke, W T F ... enjoy it and embrce it if that's what you need to do ... i still have a cig now and then - rarely - but who am I to judge?
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Sweetaerobabe-good for you and good luck! Quitting smoking during a high stress time like this cannot be easy. I admire your strength. Also, if you have surgery you will heal better and faster, and most plastic surgeons won't do reconstruction until you have stopped smoking for at least 6 weeks because the nicotine decreases the blood flow in the tiny vessels and make reconstruction very hard to do successfully. And venting is just fine-that's a lot of what goes on here, and there is nothing more helpful than being able to vent in a place were everyone understands exactly what you are ranting about and how it feels. And welcome to the Hot Tatties Lounge! If we don't have something you want just let the Tattie Tenders, Jock and Pants or the Wenches, Sugar, Kandi, and Skates, know and it will appear like magic. All the drinks have no calories and there is never a hangover here, although you will probably see some of us asleep by the pool, in the bar, in the casino (under the tables) or in the hammocks after the party. We have partays often. Hmm.. maybe we should have a partay to welcome Sweet?
Chrissyb-sorry to hear about your brother. Your grandsons are adorable! I bet you really enjoy having them around.
Wahine-sorry to hear about your husband. OK, I need a translation-"gobsmacked"? What on earth does that mean?
Kittykat-find out from your chemo center if anyone does the "Look Good Feel Better" makeup thing. Even if there isn't going to be a class the person who does it may be able to meet with you and help you with some makeup tips so you look as good as possible at the wedding.
Mariegal-welcome to the lounge
In honor of our new members, how about a Wecome Delight as the DOTD (drink of the day for the newbies)?
3 parts Vodka
6 parts White Wine
6 parts Sprite
4 parts Orange Juice
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Hey NM....gobsmacked means surprised....lost for words....etc
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serve 'em up NM....they sound delicious.
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Wow, lots going on! Just parking my broom, grabbing a witch doctor and a welcome delight.
Welcome to all the new gals! NM, sorry about your mom but then glad to hear she is doing ok.
As for the limbo picture...Kathy I might have done that one. But the one I was envisioning was this one....which I thought HD did. No matter.......we still had fun!
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You're right Lori...we sure did have fun with all those pics!!! You all are so creative and can find the perfect images.
NM, "Welcome Delight" DOTD sounds perfect! Chrissy beat me to the punch on what "gobsmacked" means...I had heard a young girl say it on tv....and figured out what it meant...cute word!
Kitty, I forgot when your sis' wedding is...but one idea is to have the permanent tattoo eyebrows...I know Earleen in Asheville does such amazing ones, you can't tell they weren't natural...other than that they look BETTER than natural! Her receptionist had them done, so I got to see the results in person...amazing....but I think about $500, so you may not want to go into that expense since yours should grow back well. NM had a good idea about asking at the cancer center. Another idea is going to a makeup counter in the town the wedding is in, and set up an appt for them to do it b4 the wedding. Another 'that sucks" thing to endure with bc!!!
I am ready for the scrumptious buffet the Wenches set up, and first am going to fill up my HUGE glass at the mimosa fountain.....Last one in the pool is a rotten egg.......
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Good morning!
Wow, busy day here today! Welcome to Chrissy and to Marlegal! I hope you join us in some lively conversation.
I think I've figured out what my meltdowns have been all about this past little while. I'm angry. But growing up and during my first 2 marriages, I was never allowed to be angry. So I don't know how to deal with anger except by crying. Any suggestions?
Thank you all for your wonderful support here, it is invaluable!
Ciao for niao brown ciow
Connie
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Connie--I express anger with tears, too. It really makes it hard to really rip someone a new one when you start crying mid-holler and can't finish the sentence. Some of us are just wired to cry, I guess. If anyone comes up with a good answer to this I'd be very interested, too!
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Ooh eeh ooh ah ah ting tang walla walla bing bang...bin diggin' the WITCH DOCTOR still...got my broom next to HD's and I'm feeling like a boozy witch...thanks again Native Mainer...and what a nice drink for new members!! A Welcome Delight, looks delicious!
Never had much in the way of eyelashes to begin with, mascara is pretty much pointless. Eyebrows always bin a problem...
Happy Birthday to goldie and wahine and wahine's mom!! Love the limbo pics - wahine and goldie LMAO!
I'm not a smoker, seems like it would be very hard to go cold turkey at dx time...I drank way more in the days following dx and B4 stupid chemo than ever...chemo has cramped my style...thank God I can still enjoy my morning latte...that would be hard for me to quit. I second what NM said.
Connie - as for dealing with anger, I wish I had a good answer. Sometimes I punch my pillow or get it out through exercise. Usually the anger turns to tears for me, but if I don't get it out I end up feeling depressed. I was feeling awfully low yesterday, then went for a long walk. Looking at the beautiful trees and wildflowers helped turn my mood. Thinking of you with all best wishes!!
I'm joining wahine right away for a mimosa and hope I'm not the rotten egg. Hurry, hurry...
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A counselor I had during my first divorce told me that depression is anger turned inwards. It really makes sense to me.
Luckily I have a husband who is the best in the world and is helping me through it. I hate having to lean on him so much but it's great that I can!
I feel for people trying to change habits during times of stress. I was encouraged to exercise when I was recovering from the mast but I had just started an exercise regime which fit me and my life when I was dx. I couldn't keep it up and so now we are finally getting back into it - slowly!
So here's a drink to stupid drugs that make you gain weight, stupid Drs who don't give good advice or go back on what they say, stupid medical procedures that people are scared of (by the way, I'm due for my annual colonoscopy - they aren't difficult, really, but the prep is stupid), and any other stupid things that are happening in your worlds today! I guess we'd better make it a triple!
Connie
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Whew Beans, you jumped in just in time...LOL. No rotten egg for you! Thanks for the b'day wishes for me and my mom while we are in OZ. Lori's is coming up lickety-split..on the 27th. Even though she will prob still be in CA, we sure can PARTAY HEARTY in her honor! Anyway we love excuses to have parties.
How is mom doing? Hope she still is complaining about the food, and ready to go home....good signs indeed! The cardio doesn't see her till tomorrow, is that right? Hope it all goes well. Still haven't heard the results from my dad's heart test...hope they can reach their dr on Monday too.
Big (((HUGS))) for Connie...sorry you have felt bad the past few days. Anger is not fun! Have you figured out what exactly is making you so angry....or just the compilation of everything? I like Beans' idea to get outside and walk and enjoy nature. Was also wondering if it would help to try to write down your feelings? I didn't get angry with getting bc...figured "why not me" as well as anyone else....the saddest I ever felt (for yrs) was when my DH died....but I wasn't really angry, just very very sad...and was in a deep dark hole that it was hard to get out of...my DD helped a LOT. If you think you could be having a bit of depression, your dr could presc you something, if you don't have anything already. How bout having your DH give you a great big bear hug????? And you know we are here for you, so if you need to vent, go right ahead!
Well, gotta go out and clean the townhouse...I think I need a semi truck to get all the stuff I need to take for DD and family....lots for a family of 5! Oh wait...maybe I'll just stay in the pool! Those mimosas just keep flowing.......ahhhhhhhhhhhh ecstasy!!! LOL.
OOPS Connie, I was writing this STUPID post, so didn't see yours till after mine got posted. Keep hanging in there! And see if your dr will give you the easy prep for the colonoscopy....now I just have to get an 8 oz or so bottle of citric stuff and mix with crystal light....sooooo much better....no enema either, but dulcolax. Prep was a cinch last time!
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Thanks for putting that tune in my head for the rest of the day Bean! To whomever was talking about rotten eggs....I guess there are some floating around the states with Aunt Sally! Ick! Happy Sunday to all. P.S. NM...that drink almost looks healthy.
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Sorry HD...that was me....just said "last one in the pool is a rotten egg"....didn't think about all the bad eggs being recalled!!! (Better jump in quick...lol)
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Sorry HD, NM did it to me...
BTW the pH of the pool was a perfect 10, (just kidding, it was a perfect 7 but that doesn't sound as good).
I think wahine is right, better jump in quick!
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Hi all!
Wow you all are busy today, don't know if I can keep up with everyone.
Wahine, know you all will have the best time. I had forgotten you had told me you had relatives there - having relatives in cool places makes it awfully nice to visit! The limbo pictures are great!
Sweetareobabe - did I spell it right? I never smoked but I remember how hard it was for my Mom to quit. She tried many times but when she finally did it it was after reading an article that said your lungs could clear themselves after 10 years of not smoking. She had thought well the damage is done so why bother. When she read this it totally motivated her. On the first day she quit she was fine till about 4:30pm and she was just going crazy for a cigarette so she smoked 3 rapidly. The next day the same thing happened but she smoked 2 and on the third day it hit her again at the same time she smoked 1 and when she put that one out she said she knew she was done and never smoked again. She did end up dying of lung cancer but it was the kind not associated with smoking and had her Dr. acted when the first sign showed up instead of telling her it was nothing to worry about for 4 years! She would still be alive. I know it is hard but if you are planing on reconstruction I think N.M. is correct they won't do it till you have quit for a while. Also in general healing from surgery so much easier and better if you are not smoking. So I know it is a stressful time but maybe this will give you the push to stop. I wish you well on this - we all know how hard it is so come vent here and we'll all help you get through it.
Kitty, So sorry about the eyebrows and eyelashes. I remember when my Mom got her wig and she looked so pretty in it then when she lost eyebrows and eyelashes she just didn't look the same. When I didn't know what kind of treatment I would have I talked to a makeup artist who works where I get my hair cut and she was going to help me if it came to it. I'm sure you can do the false eyelashes and a good makeup artist should be able to help. I think asking at the cancer center is a great idea. Wahine - I'm surprised Erleen doesn't do the eyebrows too for BC patients or at least at a much reduced rate - wow had no idea it is that expensive.
I just had my physical and my Doc. was going to give me the name of a Dr. for a colonescopy but forgot - I like that there is an easier prep as from what I hear that is the worst part. Does it matter if the Doc. is male or female? Better run for now....
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Holy shit!! I miss a few days and wow!!! I've tried to find Jocks or Pants to round up a bunch of bar stools for all the new names I see. Jocks doesn't know if he's out buying Crystal Light and Ducolax or Vodka. Pants is ordering more bar stools and trying to stock up on kleenex! Get those wenches in here--I'm thirsty!!!! LOL!!!
To all the new names I've seen--welome to a FUN, fantasy drinking thread.....
Can't possibly address all I've tried to catch up on so will be hit and miss......Sweet (smoker poster)....good advice given you. There is another thread here that might be of great support to you. It''s a Stop Smoking Support thread. May be in the Help Me Get Through Treatment Forum...try typing stop smoking in the search option and you'll probably find it. Good luck and best wishes! (shhhh, I'm getting ready to sneak aother smoke myself!)
Gentle huggsss to all dealing with hair issues. After chemo/rads/Tamoxifen, my lashes/eyebrows will never be the same. Is "sparse" a word? And, my hair----good grief, DH asked recently when did I start coloring my hair??? (never have and probably never will) My hair ended up fine and dark brown; the gray coming in now is just plain old ugly gray--I lost a head of gorgeous thick, silver hair that shone and sparkled, and I miss it!
Anger issues/sadness/meltdowns--I probably still have one or two each day for any number of reasons. Years ago, when I was angry I would throw things. I broke a lot of dishes; threw a boot through a window; and split open my first hubby's forehead when I threw a dog rawhide bone at him! Fast forward many many years.....today, I sometimes cry--but what works well for me is to sit down late at night on computer and create a document and I "write a letter" about what's got me upset...no holds barred......I'll write til I can't see straight, print it off, delete the file, and read what I wrote a few days later--usually the storm has passed and I can laugh at myself and toss it in the trash. (or, I'll PM a dear bc sister who will talk me down!!!)
Skate just dropped off my bucket o'beer--she says I only get one Dog Beer tonight!!! She's probaby wiser than I! Taking my bucket of one dog beer out to the pool and watch the fun!
Safe travels, Jaybird--give Avery a big birthday hug tomorrow from me! I can remember when you brought her home!!! Casino Girl--you need to check out the Siloam Springs Casino--the new hotel is really nice and the casino is top notch!!!!
Ahhhhhhh, the pool is perfect; the dog beer is cold; no line for a massage; table of late night munchies at hand; the fire pit is glowing and all but one of the firefighters are stripped to their skivvies--they want some cooling off in the pool, too! Going to reeeeelax tonight, then, TOMORROW...
I am hijacking AStorm's bus and going to visit Crissy--if I remember right, it is winter there and bound to be less than 100+ every day....if this heat wave doesn't break soon, I'm gonna go nuts!!!
big hugggssss to all; bottoms up; ChEARS and BARMEN!!!!
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Junie, you are definately right about it being winter here. Way cooler than your 100 degrees, probably about 55 right now. Cool enough for a fire and a very warm dressing gown and ugg boots to keep the tootsies (feet) warm. Oh and a good cup of coffee to wash down all this alcohol! You are welcome to visit anytime there is always a few beds available.
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NM - I did the "Look Good Feel Better" class last week. Somehow I got talked into being the model for the scarf wrap thing. I had 5 women looking at me with pity at my little bald head. Then, I didn't get any foundation (I realized this after I washed off my makeup). I improvised and felt like I was playing with my mom's makeup as a kid. I looked okay (my face was a little orange from the mineral powder they provided). It was funny because the other ladies got some good stuff in their bags, but complained that they didn't get lipstick or whatever! The evening was kind of comical. The cool thing is that I have extra makeup to play with (I am a makeup queen). The instructor was pretty nice and went to my plastic surgeon. We talked about how he does amazing work and is a great guy!
So.... We went out with some friends tonight. It was hot and I really felt like having a drink. I was craving a margarita, but ended up ordering a beer. It tasted good, but I really should have had the margarita! The ice cold water tasted the best! OMG - I like water over beer???? I've really turned into a chemo patient!!!
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OK, ladies, cancel the bus to Maine. Mom's heart decided to reset itself back to normal rhythym (sp?) yesterday afternoon. If it stays normal over night she's going to be sent home, no further treatment needed. Needless to say, knowing that she isn't going to be having a procedure that can cause a stroke, heart attack or fatal heart rhythym is a relief.
kittykat--sounds like you all had a good time at the LGFB class. I tried to get into one while I was getting rads, but women getting chemo got priority so I never got a slot. Alsways wondered if I'd missed anything--I'm not terribly skilled with make up and wanted to camoflage the dark circles under my eyes and pasty white color that made be look like a 3 day old corpse. Fortunately, time took care of those problems, well, mostly!
Well, in a few I've got to head out to get my Lupron shot. NOT my favorite thing to do, but I suppose it could be worse (not sure how, but there must be some way).
DOTD: since we're going to have a supply of Crystal Lite, how about the Pink Panther:
6 oz. Crystal Light (Strawberry-Kiwi)
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Hey NM you must have a book on drink mixes..........or else you have a very creative mind.......If I keep drinking these ymmy things I'm gonna be in trouble.......
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Oh darn Kitty, sorry that taxol is getting your brows and lashes. Seems that it takes any hair on your body that AC left behind. Arms, nose and the unmentionables! You have time to play with make up before your sisters wedding. I wouldn't wait until that day to get a make over. What if you didn't like it? For my eyebrows, I used some brown eye shadow with a bristled brush and just very lightly put it where my brows were. Looked more like just a shadow and my real ones were light anyways. I also did bangs, which helped. Eyeliner on top and bottom. I did the false eyelashes (cheapies) and found them to be uncomfortable and poking. I am sure you will get it figured out and look just as beautiful as you are!
Connie, sorry about your melt downs and anger. I am one of those that does not show anger. Sometimes I wish I could! There have been many times in my life when I wished I could "rip someone a new one!" Just no guts here! I too just cry. I must be one of the biggest cry babies alive. I cry at the drop of a hat. But sometimes I do just take off for a walk and do just that ....CRY, let it out. And "IF" Darrell can pull it out of me, it does feel better to talk about it. So good luck to you.
Dang Junie, you were a feisty one! Remind me to never get on your bad side. And maybe just stay clear if you are mad at ANYONE. That is funny..sure can't picture you throwing and busting things up! How was your "not so liked" company?
Chrissy, 55 doesn't sound so bad. Is that all the colder it gets? And don't worry the drinks, what happens at The HTL, stays at the HTL. The drinks are easy to find, you just google! I use what we have talked about as inspiration, I'm sure NM does too. You can usually find something!
NM, glad to hear things are looking good for your mom. Great drink for our Crystal Light drinkers. I am going to ad another. I couldn't find a photo but thought it appropriate.
Cry Baby Blues Cocktail
Ingredients :
4 1/2 oz strawberry guava juice
1 oz blue curacao liqueur
1 oz vodka
Serve with shaved ice.
Serve in "Hurricane Glass"I have buckets of fresh peaches and only 1 neighbor to share with! We are leaving early Wednesday morning, I am hoping to be able to take some with and share with the kids. Yes, we will be in CA for my birthday. I am just glad that I am only going to be 52, cuz I thought I was going to be 53! For those of you waiting on colonoscopies, we call them HeinyScopes here at The HTL and seems like we had another name for it....anyone recall? My doctors office called me last week and said "Doctor wants you to have another colonoscopy since its been 10 yrs since your last one!" I gasped......told her I just had one last year! The doctors here scare bejeebies out of me!
I better quit writing, before I take up an entire page! Hope everyone is doing well. Happy Birthday Avery!
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Morning, ladies! Rough start to the day... 15 YO DD had dreadlocks in her hair (which almost reaches her waist) and I had to comb them out for her cuz its the first day of school and I hate dreadlocks on my kids; this gave her a headache and she actually cried (she *never* cries)... then when I was clearing off the seat for her in the car I tried to pick up the charger for my GPS and it pulled out of the base and hit me in the eye which hurt a lot and now I can't focus my right eye... dropped her off at school and then realized I didn't bring the wiener-dog's car seat and I can't drive with a critter on my lap... had to pull over and tie his leash to a seatbelt but he cried all the way home cuz he couldn't see out the window and now I have a headache too... I NEED A CRY BABY BLUES! And I'll take a Pink Panther chaser just cuz I love Crystal Light.
Heather -- I didn't have real eyelashes for my own wedding! We were married in the Caribbean and services there were a little sketchy. I found a salon for my makeup (I've never been good at this) and had a "preview" done 2 days before the wedding. There was an eyelash curler incident that resulted in my eyelashes being broken near the roots on one side. So I had false eyelashes. The new ones are much improved... my wedding was in '91 and I was in the Caribbean so they looked like spiders. The good news is you can't tell in the photos. Of course, we have very few photos because the photographer couldn't focus (he called it "soft focus" but it was just out of focus) and actually took a picture of my FIL's backend as FIL was bent over taking a photo of us (which ended up being the one good photo of just the 2 of us). My MIL had permanent makeup (tattoo) done for her brows when her hands started getting shakey and they look good until they start turning blue but by then your natural brows should cover them. Anyway, you are a natural beauty and no matter what you do, you will be beautiful.
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