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Beanie - hope your FU wasn't too F... well I hope it went okay. Every time I talk to my gyno she wants to mess with what lady parts I have left so I'm postponing my FU as long as I can. That gold kitty looks just like one of my tiggers.
Wahine - like your new avatar. I worked in an office in San Francisco today that has huge aquariums with gigantic fish.
Dorthy - I have gotten in the habit of typing in Word and then copy and paste my post.
Kymn - (((hugs))) just hang out at the lounge... and maybe you aren't drinking enough...
Speaking of which, I just had a 14-hour work day and if I don't grab a glass of wine soon I won't have time to finish it before bedtime...
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Popping in for a super quick good morning, then off to town, then home to pack. Heading down to Phx AGAIN! Staying until Tues. or Wed. DH has a Valentines Surprise Date planned for us, plus our gal from Tawain is coming.
So see you all next week!
Hugs to all!
P.S. Kymn, there is nothing wrong with crying. Let it out, don't hold it in. Sometimes I just go for a walk (I live in a very remote area in the mountains) and just cry and cry and cry. (about whatever) Doesn't happen very often, but that's what I do!
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Thanks Goldie, I tend to do it in the shower then I can wash away all remenents of it when I am done.
Astorm I think you are on to something need more to drink
Ok back to work TGIF
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Oh what I would give to have a gully washer cry!!! anything more than eyes welling up with tears, then stopping.....been on the edge the past week, but still can't manage a cry....
Kymm...my DH just gave back from a 3 day business trip to Calgary and Edmonton....
I think I'm going to have to limit my drinking to the HTL....begininng to think that when I don't drink that I sleep better!!!! oh darn....and I love my red wine....haven't had any the past few nights and last night I slept 5 hours!!!! can you believe it...5 hours!!!! but then again, is it worth giving up my wine!!! So I'll keep you guessing whether I toast you in person or just virtually!!
Well, time to get moving...need to clean the kitchen and bathrooms, run some errands, write a couple reports for work (not enough hours in the day to do it at work and I don't work TH or F) and then cook for shabbat.....thinking of making chicken snitzl but don't have the rest of the menu worked out......Have a great Friday!
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Morning everyone!
Lori, How sweet....I remember when your DH surprised you last time with a surprise trip. What fun! I know you will have a great time, and can't wait to hear about it when you return!!! Hope the new gal will work out. Is she from Taipei? That is (was?) the sister city to the city I live in. We have had stopovers there a couple of times but didn't get to leave the airport. You have a lot of excitement in the next few days....ENJOY!!!!
Kymn, Yes, it will get better. Like you said, maybe you can go longer between cries....but if not, do not despair...we are here to hold you up! I love your country!!! Spent a vacay in Vancouver,another time in Toronto (tall hotel right on the water....loved that city w/ the ethnic neighborhoods), and also flew into Calgary and stayed a week in a cabin near Banff (forget the name of that town, but we hiked to "Grassy Lake" which was amazing)! Love all the blue lakes betwn Calgary and Banff too....so gawgeous. I used to have a bf who was a stewardess for CP air, based in Calgary....would go clubbing with her in Waikiki when she would fly in.
AStorm, I love koi paintings....I have 2 or 3 large ones here, from China. Maybe thats what I should try to paint over that crappy painting(?) I did. I already put a coat of KILZ over it, and that felt sooooo good. Love your sweet corgi in your avatar!
Still have snow, but hard to believe it will be 50 tomorrow, heading up to 67 or 70 by Wed-Thurs. YAY! Can't believe my dad is here for our worst winter ever...quite a change from HI. Chrissy, one of my cousins from Sydney is going to visit my family in HI in April, but I won't get to go at that time. I think this is her first visit to the US. I'm glad she will be there when the weather should be mild.
TGIF galz, esp for the "working girlz".....we should have a big blowout partay tonight! Dorothy I hope the Hardy boys behaved themselves last night (or not?)!!! LOL.
TITZ UP,
Kathy
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Hello and have fried-dey, woooo hoooo. I am taking a short break at work to visit the lounge. I hope I do not have too many, they frown on that here.
Kymn, you are funny. We are drunks but I think we all know that Canada has provinces lol. I have been to Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and Quebec. Never made it further west than that but loved it there. Sorry about your cry but I think more booze will help. And maybe a few fukitol tabs too.
Kathy, the Hardy boys were drinking my drinks all night. Everytime I turned around, my dwinks were gone. They said I drank em but I would have remembered (I think). Last time I invite them. And I love koi if you are talking about the fish. That is what they have when I visit the aquarium (onco office). It is peaceful watching them.
Goldie, have a great trip and I hope you get a wonderful Valentine gift from DH.
Karen, enjoy Shabbat festivities, can I come for dinner?
I guess I will get back to work. Just another hour til happy hour. Tenders, can you stop by and bring me and my friends here some drinks? Be sure to put mine in a coke bottle to camouflage the booze. No one will ever know. Cheers, beers and more beers and more cheers.
To all, have a wonderful day. I have to go to a meeting at 11:30 so break is over. Please dont tell my people what you people know bout what is in my cup!
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Dorothy....LOL.... my lips are sealed. They will NOT know what is in your cup, that is until you start talking in beanglish! I wish I had gone to Prince Edward Island. In HI I dated a guy who lived there and was on vacay...he thought we were in love....after he returned home I had to do another dreaded "dear John" letter. BUT while he was on vacay we had fun! Sounds like a beautiful place. Shame on those Hardy boys.....yeah they will not be on our invite again. We will have to partay "hardy-less"...as in PARTAY unHARDY! Oh well, have a good work day, and at least it is finally "Fried-Dey"!
Kathy
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Dear friends, re the silly turn on pic I posted - there was a story on CNBC about this silly drink called "turn on" and that's where I got the pic. Hope it wasn't offensive in any way, was trying to make a joke about spending my V Day with cancer docs...ha ha ha!
Wahine - oooo how did I miss your story about stirring the cake batter, so funny! My gyn & onc apts are Monday...tanks 4 your reassuring words about it. I love your new fish avatar - is that one you painted? It is so pwetty! That is too bad your dad has to be there for bad weather, what a change from HI. I remember my move from CA to WA was such a shock trying to cope with so much snow and freezing temps. LOL at putting KILZ over your painting...hope da next one is more 2 yer liking.
HD - sure miss seeing ya every day and hope you can get back here soon.
Dorthy - I too-two-to have lost so many posts plus I can't remember anything any more, so I usually type into word den copy n paste. Gives me a chance to try to edit all my goofball stuff. Still comes out goofy tho - tee hee. I'm hopelessly goofy. Don't think I was always this way, it's my reaction to a life in the school of hard knocks - ha ha ha! Now all I want to do is laugh to keep da tears away. BTW I tested negative for all the BRCA/genetic stuff. So the gyn stuff is a friggin gray area to agonize about so thot I'd see a specialist due to my wonderful family history - maybe head off problems down the road??? I'm sorry about your friend who has atypical hyperplasia. I was told it's B9 but could become BC over 30 years so that's part of why I'm on Tamoxifen to keep estrogen from driving breast cells crazy - don't know if that would be the same for her but I sure hope the best! On the node issue, I have regained most of my range of motion, but it's still a good part numb, don't know if that will ever be the same again. So far, no pain and I'm so sorry you have pain...hope da dwinks are helping dat prob. Glad doz tenders lov ya long time! LOL!
Claire - Darn, I thought you were out due to having too much fun, but heck, work is good and I'm glad you have lots of that. "Shelled bean" LOL! Monitoring is my preference, but have so many dif doc opinions at this point, thot I'd check with a specialist. Well, I'm right with you on the next two years being a tad worrisome...not much to do about it and seems we've done all we can...except just keep living life to the fullest!!!! And drinking great wine!!!! On node removal, I reeeeeeeeeeeally struggled hard with doing the full ALND after SNB, did a ton of research, got dr opinions, and searched my soul so I feel somewhat at peace about it. It's just one of many things that sucks! Such is life! More wine pul-leeeze!!
Chrissy - I will join you at the wine bar, yippee! pet's lardy hardy with Dorthy! LOL!
Kymn - I totally understand the tears and have had sooooo many myself...hope you won't feel the need to hide them here. Glad you have the fun hockey team to enjoy.
AStorm - sorry bout your long day and hope your vino was great.
Goldie - have a safe trip, you will be missed.
Junie - hope you are doing well!!
Well happy Friday, ya'll and let's party! Cheers!!!
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Kathy - I once tried to paint a wall red in my living room. It has a vaulted ceiling, hardwood floors and open wood beams -- not a place to mess around with paint! I did everything they told me to do at the paint store... I even used a primer they made up for me that looked like Pepto Bismol (DH was a little freaked out about that stage!). After the first red coat, you could still see the pink so I gave it another coat... it was still transparent and it started to drip. I kept running up and down the ladder and moving the ladder back and forth across the wall to catch all the drips but it needed another coat... after the next coat the wall started oozing rather than dripping. Apparently when you add a lot of pigment (i.e., for a deep red color) it thins the paint. I cleaned up the mess, being careful not to get any paint on the floor or ceiling and started over with a better quality paint. The wall has been red for about 5 years and I am tired of it but there is no way I'm ever painting that wall again! Sooooo... maybe you should just hang a koi over it and call it a day!
Dorthy - i have been known to drink suspicious liquids from a coffee mug.
Beanie - have you heard about aerosol cheez? I don't think it is possible to offend anyone at HTL. There was a post a few months ago from someone who thought we were all insane for being drinkers. She was ejected promptly. There is no judgement here! Just noticed your 'seussell' LOL... when my kids were little I memorized Mr. Brown Can Moo because I read it so many times. I prefer a There's A Wocket In My Pocket. I once worked with a client who created the rides for the Seuss theme park. There were many wocket jokes... and a giant Seuss creature greeted you in the lobby.
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Gail, Oh what a job you had with that red paint! I remember painting a room red that had been paneled,after priming it first, but since it was normal height, I didn't have the probs you did! And it seemed much thicker than what you were sold. I find it a problem finding GOOD paint nowadays though....got some white paint (after using kilz) for our covered porch, and the columns and railing keep getting BLACK....and it doesn't scrub off....even tried a power washer. And when I recently repainted the wood molding at the floor level (white), which was already white, I had to do it 3 x, as it streaked. WTF???? Seems like the flat paints I have used go on much easier than the ones with a gloss. I don't blame you at all for not wanting to repaint that area!!!! Yeah, I will hang a koi on the painting....gr8 idea!!!!
Speaking of that, I am headed to my mom's to try to get more of her paintings hung. Tomorrow I hope my DH will repaint the courtyard deck at the townhouse so I can paint inside. How about a Painted Lady drink?????
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Hi everyone,
Saw a video produced by Memorial Sloan-Kettering yesterday that I thought was very interesting. Takes about an hour to watch. Some of my take-aways were:
- Breast cancer is largely a disease of a higher standard of living. Most of these factors are not controllable, or at least not in ways that we would want. Things like having enough to eat, and not being constantly pregnant to ensure two healthy surviving children.
- The greatest risk factor is getting older. Not true for everyone, but the older we get, the more likely for somethng to screw up in the mammary ducts.
- In this picture, alcohol consumption plays a relatively small role. So does diet, except in the sense that eating a healthy diet is something all of us should be doing anyway.
- Most treatment decisions involve some sort of trade-offs. This is particularly true with hormonal therapy.
- This one is sad and shocking: I would never have guessed the most important predictor of a successful outcome. Do we have MEDICAL INSURANCE???
There was more, but think a very good summary. Also reassuring that not much any of us should have done differently.
Sharing.....watch, but only if you have an hour to devote to this. - Claire
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Thanks for the summary, Clairel I'll take what you got out of it, as don't feel much like watching a bc video. Glad you posted it though, as others may want to view it.
It is FINALLY pau hana time here! Anyone wanna join me for some whiisskay?? Or eerbay? How bout some ineway???? Drinks are on me tonight......TT's, start lining the drinks on the bar please!
BOTTOMS UP!
kAtHy
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I'm envious of you ladies who have a hard time crying. I spent all day crying today, and haven't stopped yet. Had a Med Onc appointment today, and they tried to scheduled the next Lupron shot 2 weeks early. This would have been the second time I would have driven 95 miles and gotten myself all psyched up for the huge needle jab just to find out that I couldn't get it because it was too early! I only caught it becuase I already have my Lupron shot appointment for April set up and asked why it was being changed. I had a meltdown at the front desk. Of course, like last time this happened, I have the option of paying for the Lupron myself to get it early, it's only $3,000 or so. I swear I don't know if I can handle another treatment screw up, and I so wish I had the balls to quit all treatment altogether and be done with this $hi!.
DOTD:
$hitty Day
2 parts Vodka
4 parts Cranberry Juice
1 part (frozen) Pink Lemonade
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Kathy, I walked in the lounge and my gosh, I sat in me favorita stool and found a bournon, a stotch, a beer AND a turn on (luv that) . I dwank em all before I saw you, Sorry I did not recognize you, i didn't have me's contact lenses in.
Claire, thanks for sharing the link. I will revisit it when I have time but it is par-TAY time now.
And btw, my BC came from stress, I just know it. I was so stressed out to the max prior to BC, my job takes thick skin and many long hours. There were times when I was so busy, I COULD have worked 24-7 round the clock for weeks and not get caught up. The mortgage bidness is wild and crazy and I have the roughest job there as I am responsible for every aspect of their mortgage approval. Our company is quite large and all departments direct THEIR problems to me when they shouldnt be my problems. I have been back for two weeks and now have only 2 loans so it is not stressful. there waz times I had over 200 and had to worry about meeting closing date on purchases and beating the rate lock on refi's. IF any of my friends here are refinancing or purchasing, please take it easy on your processor. And I am pissed as hail that I missed most of my only DD's important years in here life cuz I was fn working. So the job gives me BC just when DD goes away to college. Life is not fn fair at times.
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btw, I hit submit before ending cuz my fingers are all sort a numb now and I feared loosing my post. i did not proof it cuz I am dwinking, it is FRIED DEY NITE at the HTfnL! Get your dwinks on girls. Life is good. I just need to vent now and then, thanks for heeering me. I hope to catsy-up wif all you gals over the weekend, yeah!! My tits are up to each of you and i go to chapel and ask that you are all feeling good and dwunk too. Is that a sin?
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OK, DH, I am coming, I swear. Oh, he is not on bc.org, I guess I will get with him so he stop's bah-wahing!! Cheers, more beErs. Sorry to be drunk but not really, just skip past my yada yada yada's. I am leaving the lounge for DH. He needs me. He is needy that way, uhhh.
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NM, I apologize, I was blabbing and just saw your post. DH will have to wait. I am so sorry for you. I wish you could come to where I live, in DeNile. I really do feel for you, it breaks my heart knowing you had such a shittasss time with your appointment. It's alright having feelings of stopping treatment as long as it is a thought. You are loved and all of us will get on the bus and come give you hugs of support...and bring ya dwinks, of course. I got teary eyes just reading this and I am not a cryer. I cried the day of my biopsy and just now recall a day that I cried in the parking garage and into my PS office when I was late for an appointment which I drove myself with drains. But these are the little things. You got this far and you CAN do this. You are a very strong woman. You add so very much to your sisters here and we need you to continue with a smile even if you don't feel it. Fake it til ya feel it girl. I wish at times that I could cry more and NOT live in denial. Maybe my tears will come but maybe not. You have endured so much as compared to me and this is a struggle. We are here for you and love you. I am going to the chapel now. I may just re-post it so everyone can join me. Love you girl, picture me wrapping my arms around you and crying with you and for you. ♥♥♥
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Thanks, Dorothy. I appreciate the shoulder. My Sadie keeps climbing up in my lap and letting me cry all over her. 63 pounds of dog is a lot of lap dog. Poor thing kept trying to lick the tears off my face while I was driving home. I'm going to drug myself to sleep pretty soon, and things will look better in the morning, I hope.
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NM, If I could take that shot for ya, I would in a heartbeat! Take care! HD
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NM, Can I "second" what Dorothy wrote, as she really responded well to that shitty day you had. Cute drink! Yeah, sure, just have the shot early and pay $3k outta pocket....sheesh! If it were THEIR money, they would not be so careyless.
Dorothy, I saw you come in and plonk down on your barstool. It was so funny watching you down those dwinks so fast that it was all I could do to keep myself from laffing out loud! You are such fun! I agree with you as I have felt that some extreme stress I had for 2 solid years contributed big time to my getting bc. That sucks! But even though you missed out on some time with your DD, it is not too late to spend time with her now!
Well, gotta dwink more and type less so excuse me while I kiss the sky (is that how that song went?)....
Hiya HD....whatcha dwinking????/ And NM isn't it great to have your big furbaby to have big hugs from and comfort from while the tears fall. Furbabies are sooooooo great!
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Oh, Hi Dorothy and Kathy! HD
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Dorothy.....sure, you're welcome to join us for Shabbat dinner....we always have plenty of food....was going to invite company for this Shabbat but never got around to it....Here is my menu....Challah, roasted garlic, sweet potatoes, roast potatoes (can you tell I love potatoes), spaghetti squash, eggplant, chicken schnitzl, salad and apple crisp for dessert (it may be me eating it all, the apple crisp that is).....we will also eat it for lunch tomorrow.....Well,m its candle lighting, so need to turn off the computer....be back tomorrow night....
NM....hugs to you....I can't cry as its like I have a wall up!!!
Karen
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I did a walk up Queen Anne Hill to Trader Joe's, and came back with all sorts of things including a rack of lamb for tonight's dinner. Swiped some fresh rosemary on the way back to season.
Just got a Facebook message from one of my friends that she wants to come see me. I am so excited.
NM....go out and try x-country skiing. Part of the problem is that you are in that great New England season of More Winter, and getting out and falling on your butt will work wonders for all the pent up frustration. And you will feel you have earned your drinks and good food.
I wonder if I can get my friend on skis so I can show her the magic of skiing here.
I see signs of spring here with some crocuses and daffodils in bud. I would say early bulbs in about two weeks.
I want to do a bit more work prior to cooking dinner and drinking wine. Plus need to put away groceries. Came back with enough stuff to flatten a water buffalo. Was so easy to drag once I got back down the hill to relatively flat.
Happy weekend everyone. Can't wait to start imbibing! - Claire
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I-hay alls U uti-bays! Ears-Chay!
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well,,,,,,,I do declare this friggin' Frieday to be an official boo-hoo-hoo day! I've been teary all day. I cried when we woke up to a frozen water pipe--cried when plumber said pipe didn't break so bill was half. Cried when DH found a little stack of books and a bag of snacks left outside; Cried during my phys therapy--kept wanting to quit but didn't--then, cried when therapist told me I had improved so much in last few sessions.......really let loose when DH found out about a little surprise I was working on for our anniv--don't have all the details worked out, but he was almost crying too because he thought it was the very neatest thing I could have done for him.......(he has a new g/son we haven't "met" yet. I'm no way up to the trip but was working out a few days that he and the dog could go bonding and I would have someone come spend the nights with me so I wouldn't be alone or scared.) so-----I've boo-hooed most of the day and pretty sure I'm not finished yet for the day!!!
SO--big boo-hoo hugggssssss and tomorrow will most def be a better day!
bottomz up!!!!
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I agree crying day it is!!! Had a fight with my friend visiting from out of town - she is very happy in a new relationship and everything I said apparently was negative and not fun. I opened up to her at dinner( big mistake) as I haven't had any friends around since BC or ones who were not madly busy working on something so when she commented how hard this year was I started talking about how hard things still were with having BC and she immediately told me how negative I was and how that was too much for her to hear and to get a therapist. It would have been nice to have been able to talk and really tell somone, a friend) how hard everything was and is and I just hoped to have someone who cared about me to listen. Guess that isn't going to happen as it was too much for her and she then said she was just trying to help and burst into tears as now I'm the horrible person who made her feel bad. Somedays it is just too much..... Here is it big drinking!!!
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Oh Junie, I am so sorry you had such a teary day....with all you went through it sounds like you were overdue for crying jags. You know we are here with shoulders to cry on, right? And I heard that Pants is very sensitive to ladies tears and will do ANYTHING to make you feel better! That is so sweet if you can find someone to stay with you so your DH can go and see his new g'son. I hope that will work out. I ordered my Valentine gift from my DH today....I will get several hours of stained glass lessons....asked him first if he wanted to get that for me. Now to figure out what to get him.
No Fears, Lotsa Tears, Lets drink some Dog Beers!
Kathy
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NM, this one's for you just in case.
For all those who need to cry,
For all who need peace, strength and comfort.
Remember, to all who are here, I have broad shoulders and can carry many friends. Chrissy
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Stanize, I am so sorry to hear that your friend was not supportive. That must have really hurt bad. Try to let it go, we are your therapists and no one else will understand out there in the real world.
Chrissy, you are something, I could use your shoulder about now.
NM and Junie, I hope you ladies are feeling better today. BC sucks and I wanna just crawl into a hole and hybernate for awhile. I am going to have a nap on this gorgeous day. It is going to up to 40 here and feels tropical. I had big plans today with housework but just don't care at the moment. I am popping a valium, a few fukitols and going off to lala land.
Have a good day all, no more tears unless they are tears of laughter. I love you girls and will pray once I get in my comfy warm bed.
PS....NM, I know what you mean about the affect Sadie has. My dogs also know when I am down and cling to me. I am only sneaking one in bed with me out of fear that DH will catch me. He hates the dogs in bed but too fn bad. Give Sadie a kiss from me, sending you another hug.
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Geawd, I guess I fit in here! Crap-S**t-Fukitols-waaaaaaaa!! Junie, I so hope you feel better, but just know you are not crying alone...Stanzie, I can't believe how you were treated. No one gets is better than the ladies here and I'm so sorry that happened to you. IT IS SO HARD and then to try to talk to someone, then you have to take care of their feelings and your own feelings. I need crapitols, fukitols, percotinis and some plain old vodka!
Anyone who makes anyone here cry or feel bad I wanna punch em out for ya!
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