Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Hi to All, Thoughts of spring are really wonderful to hear. Here in MN at this time we are usually up to our hips in snow but right now only a couple of dirty plow piles are left in the parking lots. The grass (if you can call that brown stuff grass) is showing and I haven't picked up a snowball yet! 8th warmest January on record so I'm not worried just waiting for the real BIG dump to come most likely in March. At least it won't last long. Most unusual winter but really fun too for a change. Kitty
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Plantlover: Such lovely photos! We're pretty warm here in IL too. Thanks for the reminders of Spring.
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greetings from almost 50 degrees western MA. This is frighteningly strange...still snow on the ground, but lots of that brown stuff KittyGirl calls grass too....
just wanted, again, to thank you all for being here, a real balm, salve, healing, compared to so much of what seems to be going on in the world today...thoughts of a warm Spring to all...
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It's even stranger here in Southeast Michigan. Our grass has stayed green all winter and has new shoots. On my walk the other day I saw some weeds/wildflowers with little blooms on them and I have had continual vinca blooms (just one or two at a time) on my plants all winter long.
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In case folks here haven't checked any of the Komen threads lately - this POWERFUL video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2ZwpSwm_4as#!
needs to GO VIRAL - we can do it - just keep sending it on to eveyone you know. Linda is SO SO SO brave -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2ZwpSwm_4as#!
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Still picking parsley from my herb garden, and the grass everywhere is green!On the other hand, Europe is getting hammered with snow and temps well below freezing. Some parts of England saw 16 cms of snow yesterday, and they are SO not equipped to handle it.The jet stream is to blame for this topsy-turvy weather. Today in Niagara it even smells like spring! But a wee bit of snow is predicted for tomorrow morn -- and probably gone by noon....0
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Spring in Puget Sound! Bulbs are coming up and primroses are blooming. We keep green grass all winter. It goes brown in the summer unless you want to spend $$ watering it. By then we're tired of mowing and happy it's going dormant.
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I'm not an atheist, but perhaps you can find some support in a breast cancer support group? I don't know where you are in your treatment, but many people find meditation and yoga to be very relaxing and peaceful. Take care
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I'm not an atheist, but perhaps you can find some support in a breast cancer support group? I don't know where you are in your treatment, but many people find meditation and yoga to be very relaxing and peaceful. Take care
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gingergirl2 who are you talking to?0
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To the OP I would guess..might be like me and not look at the post dates lol
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Oh my goodness, that makes sense now. Thanks Stormynyte! I'm a goof!0
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gingergirl2
Welcome to the board although we all wish you did not "qualify" to be on a breast cancer forum. You are right about meditation. It is what got me through.
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Today I faced a difficult meeting at work with a supervisor. I normally, pre breast cancer, would be very tense and anticipate every angle and sleep very little. My newly found outlook, post bc dx, left me with a whole new approach. I found myself deciding that I could do with her what I do with my students...I would expect her to supervise me in a way that would help me do a better job. I went in fully expecting that she would be supportive of my success. Just like I expect my students to come in and try their hardest to be productive members of the classroom. I went in believing (or trying to believe) that people live up to your expectations...for good or for bad.
I was pleasantly surprised. I don't know if she behaved any differently or if I just saw what I wanted to see...but I managed to sleep the night before and do no more than prepare for the meeting in a sane and rational way. She congratulated me on work well done and offered suggestions for even better teaching. When I told her that I was trying something else and didn't think I could implement her suggestions too, she said that was fine because I was trying this other thing.
It all reminded me of the buddhist teachings about seeing all people as inherently good. It reminded me of my tagline...turn your face to the sun...
I felt hopeful that I might be finding a way to live in my life post bc dx without having to reinvent it externally, just reinvent it internally.
I don't know if that all resonates with you, but I felt like this was the best place for me to express this. It isn't directly related to the thread...but in a way it is since I am trying to find meaning and serenity in this world as an atheist.
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Good for you CLC! It sounds like a better way to go through life. There is not much good that came from my BC experience, but changes in life view like the one you describe are one of the few good things.
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The only reason I "qualified" is because she was taking to atheists. I'm not an atheist, but I still wanted to comment and give some support. Isn't that why we are here? There are many non-religious ways to deal with all this.
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?? I'm taking to the person who asked the question.
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Plantlover ???? I am responding to the person who asked the question.
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gingergirl...I think notself was simply saying that she wishes you didn't have to deal with breast cancer...that's what she meant by wishing you didn't "qualify." The confusion was simply that the thread was started by someone 4 years ago...and plantlover was confused about who you were talking to in your original post... I don't think anyone here is going to gainsay your suggestion of meditation...it is very helpful...:)
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Oh, sorry, I get it. It thought she was commenting on what i said. We're all in a club we don't want to be in.... sigh.
I really didn't notice it was a 4 year old question. Interesting that it poped up on "active topics" . I hope thedudess is doing ok. Take care all. I find meditation very calming too. . ..... haha, maybe I need that now.
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CLC--Thanks for sharing interesting thoughts about changing the way you live life internally. I recently read a book called How to be Sick, which was written by a woman who practices Buddhism and who has become disabled as a result of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome & Immune Dysfunction. She describes some very specific practices for changing your inner world, and she talks about how we often suffer because of the way in which we think about things, making the physical illness even more challenging to manage. I am re-reading it, so that I can absorb what will likely work for me in trying to live the kind of life I want to live while dealing with advanced disease.0
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gingergirl2,
Sorry for the confusion. As others have explained, no one on this breast cancer forum really wants to see new members join us because it means that this awful disease has struck someone else.
Every time someone posts to a thread, the thread shows up on active topics. Unless the thread is very active, it is soon overwhelmed by other threads and sinks to the bottom of the list. This thread goes completely quite from time to time and sinks out of sight. When people pick up the conversation it can stay on "Active Topics" for weeks. It is one of the most watched threads on the forum because we talk about everything under the sun and have a lot of fun doing it.
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you can make it a favorite
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Wow, I didn't know this was one of the most watched threads on the forums. I don't know if that's good or bad, lol!
Hey, I had the strangest dream over the weekend. I'd really like to post about it if you guys don't mind. So, is it okay?
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PlantLover, I don't see why it wouldn't be fine for you to post your dream. We talk about lots of things in this thread.
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Plant Lover - go for it....I have been writing down my own dreams for years & years...if you're interested, a fascinating process called Active Imagination - goggle it - Robert Johnson has written a good book abouthow to do it..
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So glad to find this thread. I think of myself as a "nontheist"--I don't know if there is a god(s), don't see much evidence of one...but don't really care. The world we have is enough for me.
I do belong to a Unitarian Universalist congregation (many of whose members are agnostic/atheist), mostly for the intellectual/spiritual stimulation and the community of (mostly) like-minded folks. I am also of Jewish heritage, so it's important to me that my child knows about Jewish history and culture, but not with religious intent.
Sorry we're all on this journey, but glad to find fellow a/non-theistic sisters.
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PlantLover...looking forward to hearing some dreams!!! Bring 'em on out!! I figure this thread is the perfect place to talk about anything...because a life perspective such as atheism colors and shades all aspects of life...and only other atheists can fully appreciate the hues we see...
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Hey PlantLover, quit teasing and spill your dream.
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Ha ha, River! I have to say, the dream really got to me. When I first woke up I went in the bathroom and just sat there and cried. Very emotional. Now, I've always been a heavy dreamer but none of my dreams has ever made me feel the need to write them down or type them up like this one did.
Okay here it is. I hope it's not too confusing it's what I typed up at about 3:30 in the morning. It's very rough and I'm not going to try to clean it up. Please tell me what you think.
All these people from different cultures and religions were giving advice to "students" about how to find the meaning of life and ultimate happiness and life partner. I was one of the students.
Each adviser or group was giving different advice.
One was a married couple - she was beautiful, him non-decrepit .
Another was someone like a Buddhist.
Another was a group of 3 or 4 men .... Muslim maybe ... angry, zealot like.
There were many others - some were my sisters. I don't remember what everyone said.The goal was to pick the right path and follow the instructions of the adviser. This would lead me to the ultimate goal in life ... security and happiness.
I attempted to listen to each group or individual. Some gave specific rules I needed to follow. Some, like the married couple just wanted me to observe the way they were being toward each other which was very loving, passionate, flirtatious. The 3 or 4 men were very angry and demanding when they were instructing. They started to argue amongst themselves and then started to argue with the other advicers too.
I was the most comfortable with the Buddhist type individual. This person remained completely calm and spoke of how it would be necessary to always keep calm in life. Suddenly it became clear to me that I knew what the answer was.
All the advisers grew quiet and waited for me to say which path I picked. When I started to explain I had chosen the path of the Buddhist type person suddenly all the advisers united and became angry with me and without actually speaking started telepathically communicating to me that I had chosen wrong then they all started arguing amongst themselves again, completely ignoring me.
I continued to watch them and felt so much sadness because I had made the wrong pick. I started trying to talk to the group and say things like I picked the correct path. You all know that ... please stop. Suddenly, it all became clear. There wasn't one correct answer. The answer was a combination of each of the different paths, ways, behaviors each of the groups or individuals had shown me.
Just as suddenly as the group had started to argue they grew quiet again. The beautiful woman looked at me and smiled. I looked around and they were all nodding yes the Buddhist person spoke and said something deep and soulful and calming and said something like ... yes, you have found the key the answer, something like that. If you choose only one you will be wrong. There was a lot more imagery at the end but I can't remember it all. Then in my dream this amazing calm came over me and everyone else. There was such visual beauty all around.
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