Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Kitty
Happy Paris. What a wonderful inspiration you are, giving yoruself the GIFT of a good holiday with friends. Laughing at the Jefferson bible, yes, knew what he did - his home, Monticello in VA is a fabuous place to visit. He invented so many creative things. Sure he'd be in SHOCK to see what some in the USA attribute to the "Founding Fathers" - such a myth...
Thinking of buying the book myself...
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Testing - wondering if things are working right or not.
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well, if you call something with type this small, and posting as SLOW SLOW SLOW as htis is working, then I guess it is....sad....not wortht he time it takes to post - and the eyestrain to try to read this print
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OK time to bump. and a...haiku? but many of you, more southerly, are past this stage...
Spring,
Frothing out,
All the trees are wearing tutus.
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Weeding the garden
Bean tendrils climb the trellis
Sun on the flowers
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digging the bed in which I will plant my SunGold tomatoes, as soon as the "last frost date" is past - get ready for it: June 1. Well, the farmers say the "real Memorial Day." So good to feel tired from digging.
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Flannelette your haiku was wonderful. Spent several hours in my garden. Surprised, amazed every year.
Kay
Dx 3/3/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 8/8 nodes, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2+0 -
I'm not a gardener, love to hear about those who are!
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Yes, I am also. I know this post is several years old, but from the hits it's gotten, people seem intrigued. I've read several reputable places that close to 17% of Americans have no particular belief. I was raised Catholic, but lost my faith during, literally, my daughter's birth when I had the blinding revelation that THIS, the immediate moment, is all that there is. I still believe it.
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I think many people find it interesting that atheists or non theists can be very good people who are moralistic and helpful.
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Yes Lisa, that idea never fails to surprise me. I watched a TV documentary about some Australian Catholic pedophiles who were moved around by their superiors to keep their reputation intact. Victims visiting the Pope were turned away after being told they were besmirching the Catholic name. The many victims and their families are still severely affected decades later. What makes religious people think they have a monopoly on ethical behaviour when their own misdeeds are so obvious?
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I was thunderstruck to learn that the Catholic Bishops are going to investigate the Girl Scouts for doing things that Catholic Bishops don't like. Like being inclusive and teaching girls that women can be leaders, I guess.
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Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (previously known as the Office of the Inquisition) is investigating all American Convents because Rome thinks American nuns are spending too much time helping the poor without sufficient proselytizing and the nuns are too "liberal". The average age of an American nun is 65.
They have yet to send investigators to any American monastery or order of priests.
Organized religion is so strange.
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The Catholic Church is a corrupt corporation. Jesus would turn over in his grave if he knew the monstrosity that had arisen in his name. He would never convert from Judaism - I am sure of it.
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The founders of all religions would be horrified to see what has arisen in their names. All founders attempted to improve conditions for the average person and warned against greed and the desire for power. Now there isn't a religion on the planet that isn't corrupt. The less power remains in the hands of laypeople, the more corrupt the religion.
On a gardening note, I am going to try Preen in my flower beds. Has anyone tried it? Does it really keep the weeds down?
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lassie - I'm a Girl Scout leader and was absolutely floored when I read about this. There is an element of religion in GS, but I always steered my girls down a very nondenominational, real-world path as we worked on projects, etc. My focus is personal responsibility and not relying on others to make your path in life, but also learning to share yourself with others (people, animals, nature, etc.).
Ironically, I have a friend (also a GS leader) who is an almost fanatical 3-Day walker and fundraiser and self proclaimed educator on all things BC to raise awareness. She has not had BC, nor has anyone in her family, but this is just her passion (obsession?). She even has a ribbon shaved into her hair. I had her come speak to my troop (several months before I was diagnosed) and she had them in tears, and then when I was diagnosed they just did not know what to do, but at least they had a clue about the whole thing. They are currently 7th graders...
I went to the farmer's market yesterday in the rain and bought heirloom tomato plants and a cute hanging basket with a variety of grape tomato that droops downward rather than growing upright, so hopefully will look neat with clusters of little tomatoes draping over the sides. Not to mention lots of little tomatoes in my salad!
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Was going to add my 2 cents about certain aspects of organized religions - but on beginning to think more deeply looked out the window and knew i couldn't waste this precious mornng on it. all I will add is - just sick. but then, there are many good people working in org religions who are truly ethical, compassionate, and all the good things - yes, all there is is now.
Here in ON we're kind of like you in western MA - frost-free date probalby June 1. The last daffodils (pheasant's eye narcissus) still in bloom and utterly frgant, and lily of the valley and lilacs coming on (a noticeably poor lilac year) - It's all so fragrant!
Not yet to beans twining up poles, Notself - have you tried the deep mulch way? I'm going for it, finally, this year.
I'm sorry to say I have a hate on for pampASS grass and am actually going to resort to roundup and black tarpaulins. I once burned it - nope. Stuck huge stacks of straw on it - nope. it's roundup time. I've heard it's rampant in some places and destoying local fauna especially in the American west? it's destrying the beautiful tansy stand that was here when I came.
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Flannelette Tansy can be almost as invasive as pampas grass! If you want some I've got tons! How about some solomon's seal? I think of my invasive, aggressive plants as assertive. It makes it easier somehow.
What is the deep mulch way?
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I am always pulling up something that looks a bit like pampas grass when it's young. It loves to grow in my vegetable garden but it is easy to pull because I have landscape cloth covered by oak chips as mulch. I had the tree trimmers leave a truck load of oak chips when they cleaned up the trees after the ice storm three years ago. Since my soil is alkaline, the oak chips add a bit of acid to the soil as they decompose. I am sure the weed grows in the lawn as well but in Arkansas if it's green, it's lawn. All weeds including dandelions are welcome.
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I've used Preen and like it - but be careful about which plants you put it around, as some are sensitive to it and will die. (It says on the box where not to use it...
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Athena, I'm not much of a historian, but I don't thnk he ever "converted" - I think it all happened after he died. But I agree, the Golden Rule seems to have been lost.
The investigation of the GS, and nuns - whew. And remember, the current pope was previously in CHARGE of the "Inquisitions" - till their PR firm changed the name...
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Athena,
Hi, sorry to butt in on this thread. I often read and get some ideas for conversations with patients who are non believers. Jesus was always a practicing Jew. For the first century Gentiles who wanted to follow him and his apostles had to convert to Judaism and follow most, not all, of the Jewish laws. It was later in the second century that the faith we know now as Christianity began to emerge. I often cynically say that once the church got organized, Christ was left out.
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thanks bartender, for the accurate reporting, I once spoke with the author,think his name was Cronin? - and asked the question - he answered just as you have...also think if the Golden Rule was an enforceable law, we'd all be living in better communities, countries..ah, well...at least we have these pockets of humanity to keep us sane...
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Sun: I know he didn't - that's my point. I'm saying he never WOULD. And I agree with the chief bartender! :-) Jesus wouldn't touch the Vatican with a 50-foot pole - I am sure of it.
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I guess none of that is our problem...let them straighten it out...
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lol! True.
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I am Pagan, heathen.... I don't mind when people say they are praying for me bc to me that is positive energy. I've experimented with many religions/cults/practices (they are all the same imo), my favorite, Buddhism. I do find myself chanting at times. It's a good distraction of the mind. I have had some heated squabbles w the bible thumpers and hypocrtical Jesus freaks. If I'm pushed, I punch back
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This is sporadic visitor MOI just dropping a post to let you know that I am head over heels tickled to have started reading that book I mentioned I was going get: The Way Back to Paradise by Joseph M. Felser. I am only in the Prologue but am intoxicated and so happy at his articulation, including my own stances . . . Until whenever, best wishes to everyone!0
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Why is it that the people who are the most mean, the most greedy, the least likely to see the best in others are usually the most religious?
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