Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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I just found this thread and it's great. I do need to remember that reference to Matthew 6:5 when people get really "excited" about praying for me. I don't mind that they do,,, and I appreciate the gesture,, but I don't really want to hear all about it. I like it better when people send me "positive healing energy".Notself,, Love the "joke",,, ain't that the truth??
simplelife,, keep us posted! Hoping for FAT. (one of the few times we want fat, right?)
glennie
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simplelife...as a teacher, I can say 98% is pretty darned good. Keep us posted.
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simplelife - 98% would make me feel easier about waiting for the results BUT you are right, it is better to be safe.
notself - great joke and oh, so true.
glennie19 - Welcome! Cute dog.
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Thanks! That's my Princess Ava,, the diva dog. Spoiled rotten,,,,0 -
Aren't they all!! We have 2 rescue divas Hannah and Chloe. I believe in Dog.
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Ava is a rescue too.Dog is my co-pilot.
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I like your style.
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"Dog is my co-pilot" - love that!
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I have a tee shirt that says My Pit Bull is my Co-Pilot. It looks like this one. Only red!http://www.cafepress.com/badrapstore.89853572
I also like the quote: Dog is the god of frolic. Truer words never spoken.
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Ok now I'm getting silly. Cause I'm dressed as a crazy cat lady ready to go on our humane society
Furball party cruise. You've no doubt heard this before but, what does a dislexic agnostic insomniac say to himself at night? ... Is there a Dog? (sorry......tee hee)
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Good one!and Yay for you,, going to help out at the Humane Society.
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This little bit of information is so fascinating to me and just reinforces my atheist beliefs.
“Consider that you can see less than 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum and hear less than 1% of the acoustic spectrum. As you read this, you are traveling at 220 km/sec across the galaxy. 90% of the cells in your body carry their own microbial DNA and are not “you.” The atoms in your body are 99.9999999999999999% empty space and none of them are the ones you were born with, but they all originated in the belly of a star. Human beings have 46 chromosomes, 2 less than the common potato.
The existence of the rainbow depends on the conical photoreceptors in your eyes; to animals without cones, the rainbow does not exist. So you don’t just look at a rainbow, you create it. This is pretty amazing, especially considering that all the beautiful colors you see represent less than 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum.” “— We Originated in the Belly of a Star, NASA Lunar Science Institute, 2012. (Illustration: Christy Scherrer)
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Wonderful passage, Brigadoon!
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CLC - I think I would like to read that book. So glad I found that. It was on an atheist forum on FB.
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That does look like it would be an interesting read.
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Brigadoon - that passage you quoted - well, it's much like your signature line - Nothing will erase us because we are already woven into the pattern. Yes, just like Joni Mitchell sang "We are stardust.." One of the most fascinating courses I ever took was called The Astronomer's Universe, which had to do with the evolution and destruction of stars, and yes, the heavy elements, of which we are made, only came into existence once the earliest suns collapsed in upon themselves before exploding into dust...stardust...and then our earth was able to come into being. this absolutely flipped me out in a good way. especially being of the Woodstock generation. Just now, at this moment, we happen to be the (one of the) things in existence on the crest of the universe's evolution. In fact, we ARE the universe. We just don't know it!
Now here's where I play the devil's advocate (joke!). ok. the Catholic church really likes the Big Bang theory because they figure SOMEONE had to create it! guess who?
This is one reason I like buddhism. it does not concern itself with any of who created what, it just gets on with the business of suffering and how to get relief from suffering by coming to understand reality. (Not so easy) They like the big bang, too, I believe. At least, from what I read, the Dalai lama is certainly interested in quantum physics and modern scientific discoveries...
just blabbing on as I feel I'd like to post something
( i really find these emoticons ugly but am using one anyway) hope you all had some great summer weather today0 -
Flannelette - lots of good in your comment. So glad more people are posting again. I really love this board. It was so active and thought filled for awhile but people move on.
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Yes, I sometimes wonder why. For a while a lot here seemed to have been ned for quite some time, and you just naturally move away. and it's not like we're helping newbies to the txs and so on, much. Then, we're pretty civilized so generally live & let live so don't engage in evangelizing. I think a lot of us just read a lot, or work on our gardens, or aren't searching for alternative methods in which we can engage in a big quarrel. It's l;ike we pretty much made up our minds and are just carrying on. Though, I have and would come back here if i got scared at some flare-up or worry or progression, because really these are mostly the people i sort of know. I'm not mushy, or extroverted, either. Nor will I send a prayer (but will send heart-vibes, which are thoughts of compassion and hope). guess we're pretty independent, or maybe we wouldn't be here.
But we're a motley collection - some pagan/atheist, some spiritual/atheist, really, it seems that there are many atheisms, I think. i don't believe in an omnipotent being who created the universe, yet i do believe in buddha-nature, for instance. an evolutionary something by which we may advance and evolve as human beings - or just beings. I do have a strong yen for things spiritual. Others have not such thoughts at all & could care less.
I don't think i could pull the trigger, but right now i heartily wish a bomb would drop on those who combine religion and testosterone to pull together in brutal gang mentality, which is nazi-ism IMHO. and really, I doubt they will be cured by love.
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I am more of an agnostic than an atheist, i am OK with people who say they want to pray for me.... and they say it a lot...someone even gave me a prayer shawl... whatever floats your boat...
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I think your analysis is probably accurate. I find the day to day dealing with this disease a matter-of-fact thing. I do go to the Stage !V boards specific to my chemo or whatever and feel a real kinship with those in the same boat but the GOD factor seeps into everything. I am more of a natural/pantheist or a scientific humanist. I see the awe in everything but for me it just is and sufficient unto itself.
I am with you on the big bomb brutal gang mentality thing too. I am so tired of the saber rattling, send those young people to war, defend my definition of America people that I kinda wish the evangelicans who pray for the rapture anyway and would probably love a big bang (pun) would succumb and leave the rest of us alone.
I just read "Unbroken" and the war climate and mentality of the Japanese people that brought about their part of WWII was horrifying. I always felt that the majority of them were just victims of a harsh, well placed and powerful few. Not so. It was a national disease and the brutality was on equal footing with the Nazis if that is possible. They were just equal opportunity butchers who saw enemies everywhere.
Ah, well. Peace be with you Sista..
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I'm still around. I mostly hang out on the Lymphedema thread and that no reconstruction threads! There is just SO MUCH misinformation out there about lymphedema!! I can't believe it. Even though I've only had it since March, I read a lot and seriously feel like I know more than some of the "professionals" that I've encountered. Not too much GOD factor over there,, so it's tolerable to me. If someone wants to "pray" for me,, I just say thank you and move on, as I don't like to engage in arguments about religion. They get very tiresome. One of my Jewish friends does healing chants and that is very nice. She calls for the healing power of the universe to help you. I'm ok with that.Unbroken sounds like a rough read,,,
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glennie - Funny that even the professional's don't seem to know about it. I was never warned that I should get my BP taken on the opposite side of the lymph node removal. To this day no one asks. I only learned of lymphedema from this site and from a co-worker who had a knee replacement. You are right on the mis/no information.
I don't get into religion with people either. It is a real waste of time. I do however proudly claim my atheism if they push me. AND if someone knows I'm an atheist and they start trying to convert me I have been known to bewilder them with science and leave them jaw to the ground. I feel it might just put a crack in their paint.
Welcome pattij. As flannelette said, we are a wide umbrella.
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that is the thing that pushes me over the edge,, the ones who try to convert me and tell me I'm going to hell unless I accept Jesus.And Jews for Jesus. I'm from the Jewish faith, but I have issues about the whole God thing,, but when I see Jews for Jesus, that makes me really nuts,, cuz you can't have it both ways. If you belive in Jesus,, you are a Christian!! Those people, I argue with!
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glennie19 - I saw a special on that movement that was chilling. The political involvement with the evangelical support of Israel and the attempt to convert Jews to prepare Israel for the second coming. With all the evangelicals in D.C. one has to wonder what resources are being hidden to aid this cause.
Here is an article on the movement that you might find interesting.http://jewsforjudaism.org/news/topic/jews-jesus-serpent-garden/
To be a Jew is so much more than a faith to me. It is a shared history of a people, a centuries long struggle, a cultural identity that is more than a religious practice. I cannot abide the ignorance that goes into this kind of movement.
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Oh, that was a good article. Thanks for sharing. The history and the cultural identity are very important to me. I believe in Tikum Olam, to heal the world. Jews traditionally do not believe in an afterlife and it is up to us to improve the lot of people who are here on earth now and in the future. Doing charitable acts is very important to us. That I am totally with. Helping out at a soup kitchen, clothing and food drives,,, I can get behind this. Once a year, we have a big Mitzvah Day where the two synagogues in town join together and do social actions projects. That is "religion" to me. Helping others.0 -
Hi All,
Great discussions going on here. I love it and it is what I need. I'm glad this thread is getting more active again.
I just wanted to post that I got my biopsy results back and the lump IS fat necrosis! I'm very happy about that. However, in the process of getting some bloodwork for my crohn's disease, some other strange results came back that look ominious in terms of possible liver mets. It through me into a tailspin last night, but I've decided to not jump the gun and borrow trouble. Nothing is confirmed and the crohn's could possibly be the explaination for the strange results. I have no outward symtoms that alarm me, so if it had not been for the blood test, I would have no idea that something is possibly up. So, I'm going to take a "wait and see" approach. If the doctor's think more testing is warranted, I'll do it. Otherwise, I'm not going to push for getting answers for all the strange results.
To shift subjects, I go to a local atheist Meet-Up every other week in a small town in Tennessee. I quickly learned that atheists are a very diverse group of people on pretty much every level....politics, views on religion and our own individual beliefs (agnostic, humanist, pantheist etc.) I enjoy the freedom to talk about those things without feeling judged. It's nice!
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Simplelife4 - Great news on the fat necrosis! Don't you just love the pop up worries!!!!! Makes life very interesting. At my age I never know if it is aging, stress, the cancer or the treatments. I admire your attitude about the blood work. I freaked out when I read my last CT results and then the onc explained that they were actually good and that the RO was trained to describe what he saw and it was up to the Dr. to interpret it. Guess we have to trust someone.
I lived in a small town in NC about 25 years ago. Most of the churches were mainstream to snake handlers. There was one small Catholic Church that sat on a side street. The members went in the back door and were very quiet about their affiliation. I was not as brave then and was very quiet about my atheism.
Things must be improving in the South if you can actually have an atheist group. That really gives me hope. I think I will start searching for a similar group. What a pleasure it must be.
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One thing I find interesting is that those who post here from the U.S. face most of the evangelical & fundamentalist talk. What's different here (southern Ontario) is that i don't think I've been sucked into that s*** (stuff!) since maybe grade 7 when some friends wanted me to put Jesus in the driver's seat. as far as I can see, there is no overwhelming or even noticeable Bible belt that I'm aware of. We're mostly agnostic or atheistic or maybe belong to some liberal or even evangelical kind of religion but people don't blather on. Different cultural history and reasons for being in the New World, I guess. But also, the US being so huge, population-wise, you are bound to have the extremes.
Simple4life - so glad to hear it was just fat necrosis but really, don't you sometimes just want to scream "leave me alone already!" I hope the oddity is nothing, and that ways spring up from deep within yourself - some peace or strength or love for your body (not suggesting you don't already) or whatever - to somehow keep bearing the barrage. some days you can face it & some days you can't, then it's ok to stick your head in the sand, I think.
To whoever recommended it - I'm about to read such Stuff as Dreams are Made on by Helen Luke. Thanks for the suggestions re the eternal feminine.
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simplelife4,
So glad you've had good biopsy news. May all your medical news be so unexciting that boredom ensues.
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simplelife4: YAY on the biopsy,, and hope that blood work is just nuthin'Living in the Southern US,, it is FULL of evangelical types. They consider it their mission in life to preach to you and try to convert you. It is very tiresome. I'm happy to be able to work from home now,,, happy for many reasons,,, and one is avoiding those types.
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