Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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They're back now. It was most of the threads. Very eerie.
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Don't stress, it wasn't just this thread (in case any of you think it was the devils work hahaha)! Same thing happened to all the other threads too. I'm an atheist, all the way from New Zealand. Nice to know I'm not the only one
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I have studied Buddhism for years and meditation really helped me in those first years after diagnosis. Well, it looks like NIH agrees. https://community.breastcancer.org/livegreen/calm-your-mind-boost-your-mood/
Mindfulness is one of the most important meditation techniques for calming and focusing the mind. It substantially increases concentration. If anyone wants more information, I will be glad to post some links.
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Hi all! Haha, for the Sunday school teacher! I have never had a conversation with a bible thumper that was ultimately terminated for boredom on my part. That being said, I do entertain myself with the JW's that come around sometimes! My path of Paganism teaches that all life is sacred, to be held in reverence and everything is interconnected. Spirits? Not so sure, as we believe that there is no heaven or hell, the time you have is it, and all things you do should bring no 'pain' to any living thing, and if you should, it is your obligation to make it right. To that end, my yard work reflects it! (except maybe grass!)
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I invited the Church of Christ ladies in when they came to my door. I ask them about their services, the position of women in their system and other questions. I didn't talk about my lack of belief, I just listened to them. They were very sweet.
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yep!!!!
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I guess I am an atheist, although I have admitted it only to myself. I always hate it when people look up to the sky and say that their dead relative is looking down on them...um, no....can't buy that. Oddly none of the dead relatives are ever looking up at them!
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Just popping in to say thank you for this thread. I don't post here much, but it helps to know there are other non-believers out there. If I hear one more "everything happens for a reason" I just might explode.
I would like to second what Ananda said about meditation. I was lucky to be introduced to a woman who teaches meditation and is also a Stage IV cancer survivor. She has helped me tremendously with both the emotional roller coaster of this diagnosis and with pain control. I think it has helped my wandering "chemo-brain" too
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I'm an atheist and a liberal living in the heart of the conservative Bible Belt.
It's annoying sometimes especially since more than a few people around here believe atheists worship the devil. Nope. Don't believe in him either. Devil worshiping is a completely different ballgame!
Praying for me does seem to make other people feel better though, so I tell them to go for it. LOL.
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This is a fascinating study on changes in religious participation in this country over the past 7 years. http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/
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I think Seattle is in the forefront of this movement. I only know 3 people who attend church. I used to live in the Bible belt and like it better here. No one offered to pray for me, thank goodness. They might have done it, but didn't tell me about it.
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Interesting stats in that survey. A good ? To ask would be why.
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One deeply religious commentator suggest that it is the weakly religious that are dropping out. He thinks it's a good thing because the strongly religious will now have more influence. He could be right.0 -
I just listened to a radio program about this poll.
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The good news is that the % of atheists and agnostics has doubled in 7 years.0 -
Shutterbug73,
Here is your link activated. http://thedianerehmshow.org/audio/#/shows/2015-05-13/causes-and-consequences-of-declining-religious-affiliation-in-the-u-s/110191/@00:00
I enjoyed listening to it, especially the comments of the Catholic priest. He seemed to be scrambling a bit.
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I Believe in the soul and, the human spirit, which can get us through tough times. I was raised in the church but haven't attended for many years.
When Bishop Creflo Dollar wanted a new $65 million Lear jet for ministering to his flock I wondered how many mammograms and medical care would THAT pay for.
He has to make do with his old jet but he justified not getting the new 'plane as being the work if the devil.
Words fail really.....
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That "pastor" is such a tool. The nerve.
Ugh- also so tired of seeing anything about sending prayers for any reason! Right now we are in the middle of a crazy storm season. People are being washed and blown away, and ppl are "sending prayers"
What would really help is spending some time getting off your asses and volunteering at the Red Cross, or taking the displaced into your home, or donating to the shelters and emergency funds trying to get them a safe place to live for a while. Oh- and educating people on not driving into water or teaching them what to do if a twister pops up. *SMH*
Sorry- rant over. I'm just steamed right now.
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Agree Jwoo.
If they MUST pray, pray to send rain to Ca, Or, Wa.
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I'm with you on that, JWoo and Spookiesmom. Too many christians pray too much and do too little in my opinion. I'm in AR just on the edge of tornado alley. Seems that the "alley" is spreading nation wide though. I don't pray for people or things, but have spent many days assisting with clean up in tornado devastated towns in recent years. There were many individuals and groups there with no religious affiliation. That has been so rewarding. I spent a lot of time in Joplin, MO 4 years ago and hope to never see that type of devastation again. Did "God" cause that much pain and suffering as a test of their faith or for some other reason I wonder ? I must say though, churches were some of the first to step up and offer food, clothing and shelter. If they could just provide the help and don't try to lay their religion on them, I'm all for it. One large "evangelical christian" organization", Samaritan's Purse had many people and lots of equipment there for months. Nice people and fortunately, I only saw hard work, no prosthelytizing.
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HI Dudess.
I'm an anarchist atheist/ truther. NO BS ZONE HERE. You can follow me on fascistbook under Gina Bertarelli. I have no patience for religious people. I've been on a path to find out what's true, and those brainwashed fools (tools to the NWO) are always in my way. They've been killing brown people for Jesus since time began... Muslims, Indians, Blacks, and now Muslims again. They kill anyone who wont convert. They're so easily controlled by FEAR. There are no gods, only narcissistic aliens who use religion and government to rule.
I've been done with Her2+++ treatment for 3 years and just got the port out, so I don't get the cancer markers checked each month anymore, and I want to know what kind of tests we do from now on? If I only have a month left to live I want to know ahead of time so I can quit work and travel.
What were you diagnosed with? Treatment was easy for me, except once in the middle, and I figured out getting a liter of IV H2O gets rid of most of chemo side effects. I'll try to remember more helpful hints.
It's really not that bad, and you get all kinds of sympathy. I was going through a dead colon at the same time that was a MILLION times worse, with no sympathy. I say sympathy because everyone excuses you from work and treats you like a princess if you say "breast cancer" but if you say "colon cancer" or "dead colon" no one gives you a break at all. If you have to have cancer this is a good one to get. hahaha Enjoy the journey. I had fun with no hair.
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I just noticed you're triple negative. What I learned from taking curcumin is that it's good for that. Curcumin is very good for most cancers and a lot more...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=triple+negative+breast+cancer+curcumin0 -
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Actually, in 1790 the early American colonial population was already 1/5 African and many were free people. Many early settlers were also Dutch, Swedish, Finns, French, German, Irish, and of course English. Their customs, language, religion, and world views differed significantly. Sometimes they clashed. And don't forget the many Native populations living here. That said, historically we were indoctrinated to believe that early colonization was culturally homogenous (White/English), but this is not true. Even way back, colonial America was a rich mixture of ethnicities and racial differences. But history fed us a different story, sadly.
Cultural diversity has been a fact of life in the US going back to the early settlers. However, some groups are treated differently, especially depending on where one lives. Racism is alive and doing well in many (Southern) states. As a Californian, my experiences in the South were rather startling. There was so much covert AND overt racism aimed not only at African-Americans, but also other people of color. The history of racism against non-white peoples in America is long and painful to learn about. THAT is our problem, not the many different non-White Americans living and flourishing here despite roadblocks to their success and assimilation. And as a non-Christian, I deal with bigotry and ignorance on a regular basis from people that assume I must be Christian, especially because I am White. Funny thing is, I am more familiar with the Bible than many devout Christians! I just read it more objectively. It's All Good, I say.
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The history of the settling of America is well covered by many historians and books. Of course this history is in opposition to the goals of the far right. This is why the fundamentalists of the far right have started their own colleges and are taking over school boards. It is their attempt to eradicate American history and replace it with fable. Those who control history can control the present and mold the future.
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Ananda8 & 'not' from Atascadero (hey, I have family from Paso and San Miguel): "Right" on comments! Many Christians and Republican politicos are under the impression that the Founding FATHERS were Bible-toting Christians and that Jesus was a fair skinned, light to medium wavy brown haired man with an Anglican nose. Yeah, right. Many FFs were Deists and that is a whole other viewpoint. Rewriting history wont change the facts. Including the fact that the FFs deliberately kept religion/overt Christianity out of the picture. As a history buff, I have read tons about early American history. The truth is far more interesting.
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StellaStarr, you must like "A Streetcar Named Desire"! Love it!
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/living/america-christian-nation/index.htmlAmerica was not founded as a Christian nation.
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Hello everyone,I am relatively new to Breastcancer.org and all I can say is.... this is a truly facinating board. I am so happy I stumbled across it - I always feel so alone in my beliefs (or lack there of!) and since my diagnosis I have felt even more ostracized (being a fit, young 41 with BC and not having 'faith'). There is no-one around me, like me... except my children and hubby, so I am really excited to find such a forum.... such a relief from the every day "God loves you, and he will bring you through this" or the like, that I have faced.....it makes me want to scream.
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