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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited November 2019

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited November 2019

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  • everymoment
    everymoment Member Posts: 6,656
    edited November 2019

    Heart

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  • Celin
    Celin Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2019

    Is anyone still here? This is just the spot I was looking for.

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited December 2019

    Yup just a quiet time.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited December 2019

    Celin,

    We have quiet times for some reason. The one of the sister atheists will speak up and off we go. Welcome. :)


  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,421
    edited December 2019

    TrIshyla - would it be OK for me to copy the posts from the Progressive site over to here? It is a great post and very relevant.

  • trishyla
    trishyla Member Posts: 698
    edited December 2019

    Of course, MinusTwo. Copy away. I just wish I knew who to attribute it to.

    Trish

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,421
    edited December 2019

    Here is the quote Trishyla posted. Something to think about;.

    "A religious person will do what she is told - no matter what is right, whereas a spiritual person will do what is right, no matter what she is told."

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited December 2019

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  • wanderweg
    wanderweg Member Posts: 487
    edited December 2019

    MinusTwo - I had a boyfriend once (who was Southern Baptist) who said to me, “I don’t get it - you’re anatheist, but you’re a better Christian than I am.” I think he was seeing the difference between religious and spiritual.

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited December 2019

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  • Euphoriaa
    Euphoriaa Member Posts: 152
    edited December 2019

    🤣🤣🤣 OMG He looks soo worried...

  • Yogatyme
    Yogatyme Member Posts: 1,793
    edited December 2019

    haha!

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited December 2019

    This is the year in photos from the New York Times. Surprisingly, the world was not all about politics although of course politics is part of it. Many of these photos provide links to the articles they represent. Many of them will represent things happening in the world that we never new about or noticed. Take your time going through them. They are sorted by month and you can always quit and go back. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/world/yea...


  • everymoment
    everymoment Member Posts: 6,656
    edited December 2019

    Ananda, agree that the NYT photos and the links are outstanding. So many of the photos reveal the violence occurring throughout the world. A bit disheartening after first going through them and definitely need revisiting them and the associated stories. Thanks to the brave photographers whose images give voice to human experiences -the joys, sorrows and pain.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited December 2019

    The photo and article on the winter marathon across Lake Baikal and the photo and article on Scientists Drift with the Arctic are two of my favorites. Here are the links to the articles.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/24/world/europe/ru...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/19/climate/mosaic-...

    I subscribe to the NYT because of articles like these. I have greatly reduced my reading on politics because I was becoming depressed. I am reading articles on science and art because they bring me up.

  • alicebastable
    alicebastable Member Posts: 1,962
    edited December 2019

    Spookiesmom, isn't there something in the Bible about "This too shall pass?" Ow.

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited December 2019

    Hahahaha Alice!! I think you’re right. Ow!!!

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited December 2019

    I am so tired of seeing people point at the sky all the time. I wish more would follow Matthew 6: 5-6 ---

    5 And when thou pray, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

    6 But thou, when thou pray, enter into thy room, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which sees in secret shall reward thee openly.


  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,421
    edited December 2019

    What I find interesting is that so many of us who are now atheists - or at least secular humanists - have an extensive knowledge of the Bible. And many of us spent years studying comparative religions - in addition to studying the Bible. Nice to believe that we are open & welcoming as long as the discussions don't include proselytizing or others pushing their views as the only truth.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited December 2019

    Occasionally I read some of this thread. In moving past my Christian beliefs which especially at the beginning was a scary transition for me five-ish years ago, I come across more and more people who seem to be walking a similar path as me. It goes a long way to making me feel less alone, especially because where I live is a heavily religious area. I cannot say I'm an atheist, still lots of gray areas there, but I'm definitely not Christian.

    Today this article popped up on my news app amd I wanted to share it with someone, and I thought of this thread.

    Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/millennials-are-leaving-religion-and-not-coming-back/

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited December 2019

    Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,421
    edited December 2019

    Thanks Divine. I found this comment particularly interesting.

    "...(we) talked a lot about how we came to see all of this negativity from people who were highly religious and increasingly didn't want a part in it." This view is common among young people. A majority (57 percent) of millennials agree that religious people are generally less tolerant of others, compared to only 37 percent of Baby Boomers.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited December 2019

    The number of people recognizing that they are atheist or agnostic has been increasing every year. I use the word 'recognize' because I think religion is a construct that started out as an explanation of the unknown and to overcome the finality of death. Later it became a tool for those who wanted power and control. People are recognizing that religion has become more and more controlling and is using politics as a means for control. Mixing religion and politics is always damaging to religion. The mixture has resulted in people leaving religion unless compelled to outward compliance by force. It is my opinion that the big lie that a liberal democracy is attacking religion is an attempt to frighten believers into actually restricting non-believers. That is what Dominionism is all about. This explains why Trump started hanging out with Dominionists. https://www.texasobserver.org/dominion-theology/

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 2,311
    edited December 2019

    Yikes

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited December 2019

    I agree with your comments, ananda:

    I think religion is a construct that started out as an explanation of the unknown...Later it became a tool for those who wanted power and control. People are recognizing that religion has become...more controlling....people leaving religion unless compelled to outward compliance by force.


  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited December 2019

    I can remember having brief, fleeting reasoning in my mind as a young girl when I learned the Bible was written by “men who were inspired by God,” learning that these writings were found on dead sea scrolls. And maybe it was because at a young age I bristled at oppressive male authority, but fleetingly, I thought, “now wait. Who are these men ‘claiming’ God spoke to them? Why are they being held in such high esteem?Why are they even being believed?”

    But at the time, I never verbalized my critical thinking and reasoning skills to anyone. So the train of thought left as fast as it came.


  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited December 2019

    I've read that there are even priests who fall out of belief in God, but they are stuck, having taken vows of poverty. Not having a single other place to turno, they continue with their priestly “career" even tho they no longer believe.


  • everymoment
    everymoment Member Posts: 6,656
    edited December 2019

    Whenever I listen to religion scholars, lay or ordained, my takeaway is that they do not believe that the one god of their religious tribe is really the 'one' Nothing unsettles the scholarly mind like uncertainty. But, they have careers and loyalties in a particular religion and even those who take no vows of poverty would struggle making it on their own.