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  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 398
    edited April 2009

    vivre - thanks for your recipe for coconut chanel body butter. sounds divine. Me favourite gift after surgery was a tub of high-end (can't remember brand) non-scented body butter, which was great during chemo as it had no scent. When I went to buy more, at my big drugstore, they didn't carry the brand & could only find body lotions in tubes, which is not the same as dipping into luxurious goop. I've alwyas loved trying to create my own beauty products, so am going to try yours asap (minus the Chanel - my fave is Bulgari extreme - or, maybe just lavender).

    A natural product that's great for very dry cracked feet is shea butter - stinks but really works.

    and for lips - bee propolis. I keep little jars of it everywhere.

  • havehope
    havehope Member Posts: 77
    edited April 2009

    http://www.bulknaturaloils.com/index.html

    You can find here organic oils and other products if you are interested. It is a great site for bulk products.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 1,466
    edited April 2009

    i'm hoping someone has created a recipe for facial scrub..

    i know you can use sugar.. but i am not that sweet.

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 398
    edited April 2009

    Here's a facial scrub from Country Living's Pure Beauty book. Not sweet - decidedly herbal. But I've also never tried it: 3 tbsp ground rolled oats, 1 Tbsp ground almonds, 1Tbsp powdered chamomile, 1 Tbsp finely ground sage, 1Tbsp apple cider vinegar, 6 drops chamomile essential oil, 6 drops sage essential oil. Grainy & dry, enough for 6 scrubs, will keep 3 months in a jar in the fridge. For all skin including sensitive.

    I've no idea about these essential oils & their hormone makeup, re bc. It says Sage is a mild astringent & chamomile is calming.....

  • fairy49
    fairy49 Member Posts: 536
    edited April 2009
    apple! for a scrub I use kosher salt and olive oil just mix it together in an empty container and if you fancy add a few drops of essential oil!! just be careful in the shower or bath!! my hubby has nearly broken body parts after getting in after me LOL!! Embarassed
  • mandy1313
    mandy1313 Member Posts: 978
    edited April 2009

    Fairy

    That scrub sounds great...nice and simple so that I can actually make it up.  I guess a clean shower mat will be needed so that no one slips on that oil.......

    Thanks for posting it.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 1,466
    edited April 2009

    I'll have to try those recipes.

    cancer treatment is expensive.. no?  i keep trying to shave things from my list of things that i purchase.  sigh.

    my most recent natural thing is just eating that huge bag of frozen fruit from Sam's club.  I just love it... mangos, pineapple, peaches, strawberries..  i ate a whole bag last week. - it's like 8 pounds!

    (no problems with clogged pipes for sure)Smile

  • mumito
    mumito Member Posts: 2,007
    edited April 2009

    Apple if I did that I would be on the toilet all day. But you sound like it works for you more power to ya.

    I will try the olive oil salt scrub tonight, but after My  one glass of precious red wine.

  • fairy49
    fairy49 Member Posts: 536
    edited April 2009

    mumayan! I am jealous! I quit drinking 10 years ago and these days kind of miss it!! enjoy!! have one for me! :)

    L

    ox

  • LuckyLindy333
    LuckyLindy333 Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2009

    Hi Everybody!

    I am really excited to find this thread!  I have been through chemotherapy and am currently in radiation therapy.  I had a full mastectomy last September.  I was really lucky that I had a naturopath who led me to a clinic in Seattle that has regular doctors on staff as well as naturopaths who actually work together!  It is called Seattle Cancer Treatment and Wellness Center for anyone in the Pacific NW. 

    We find that you can eat less of organics and feel more satisfied than if you are eating non-organic fruits and vegetables, so that is something to ponder.

    I have been using pure emu oil from Montana on my skin after radiation.  My skin really soaks it up.  I am going to try the oatmeal baths, as my skin is starting to get a little itchy and irritated.  I am also using the vitamin E lotion that they give me at the cancer treatment center, but it has an awful lot of ingredients on the label and it is making me wonder if I should be using it- no parabens, though.  The ingredients are water, mineral oil, PEG-8, glycol stearate, stearic acid, tocopheral acetate (The vitamin E component), myristyl lactate, trolamine, cetyl alcohol, quaternium-15, sorbic acid.  I like using it because it is free.  Does anyone else have any input?

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited April 2009

    Lucky Lindy-glad to see another natural girl.  I think you should can the stuff they are giving you, even if it is FREE because it is not free of carcinogens. Remember the skin is the largest organ in the body and it absorbs the good as well as the bad, faster than when injested:

    PEG's-contain dioxane, a carcinogen

    Propylene glycol-is used as  a humectant, and is basically antifreeze

    Anything that is unpronounceable is suspect in my book. That is why I am now sticking to the pure oils right off of the grocery shelf. If it is safe to eat, it should be safe to slather. I wish I had known about this stuff during rads. I used what they gave me too, and  I am sure there was some bad stuff in it. Hopefully, I can now undo the damage. I am really enjoying my coconut chanel!

    Apple-I love those bags of frozen fruit too, except that I usually put them in my little bullet blender, add some rice milk and vanilla and make smoothies. Yum!

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 2,701
    edited April 2009

    Hi ~ I just wanted to share something new (?) I found today.  Has anyone else tried vanilla oat non-dairy beverage by Pacific Foods?  I've never seen it before, but it was was with the rice milk and almond milk at Henry's/Whole Foods today.  It's organic and low-fat, and I think it tastes much better than either rice rice milk or almond milk.   

  • ineia
    ineia Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2009

    I love making smoothies with rice milk and frozen fruits as well. I sometimes add raw oatmeal or some flaxseeds... Is it ok to have flaxseeds on ER+ tumors?

    ineia

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 1,466
    edited April 2009

    LuckyLindy

    that emu oil is awesome.. you know, i don't care for the smell, but it heals things right up.  it so emollient. 

    i think i will start slathering my nails with it before bed.

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 675
    edited April 2009

    Has anyone heard anything about pure grape seed oil? Is it cancer preventive without all the bad oils?

  • lisasayers
    lisasayers Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2009

    This was in my inbox this morning...

    Apples Found to Benefit Breast Cell Health

    By Greg Arnold, DC, CSCS, February 20, 2009, abstracted from "Fresh Apples Suppress Mammary Carcinogenesis and Proliferative Activity and Induce Apoptosis in Mammary Tumors of the Sprague-Dawley Rat" in the January 2009 issue of the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry

    Breast cancer is second only to lung cancer in causing deaths among women, with an estimated 40,580 deaths in 2004 (1) and accounting for up to 25% of the $157 billion in cancer costs in the U.S. in 2001 (2). The National Cancer Institute estimates that there were over 182,000 new cases of breast cancer and an estimated 40, 480 deaths in women in 2008 (3).

    Recent research has found that there are natural ways to help with breast cell health that include olive oil (4) and 2 antioxidants in broccoli called I3C (5) and sulforaphane (6). Now a new study in mice (7) has found that apples, known to help mental health (8), may now help breast cell health.

    Previous research has shown that apples stop activity of a protein in breast cancer cells called NFkB (8). Building on these findings, researchers fed red delicious apples to 150 rats in differing amounts (0, 3.3, 10.0, or 20.0 g per kg of body weight)* for two weeks. They then simulated breast cancer in the rats by injecting a protein called DMBA every day for the next 24 weeks, during which they tested them for breast cancer. In addition, one group of rats received neither apples nor DMBA.

    By the end of 24 weeks, "a clear dose-dependence was observed" in the apple groups regarding cancer incidence. While the group with no apple intake had 71.4% cancer incidence, 59.3% of those in the low apple group (3.3 g/kg), 43.3% of the middle apple group (10 g/kg) and 40.0% of those in the high apple intake (20 g/kg) group got cancer, respectively. When looking at the total number of tumors per mouse, there was a reduction of 25.0, 25.0, and 61.1% in the low, middle, and high apple intakes, respectively, compared to the control group.

    For the researchers, "These results demonstrate the potent capacity of fresh apples to suppress DMBA-initiated mammary cancers in rats."
    *These amounts were equal to eating 1, 3 and 6 apples per day in humans.

    Greg Arnold is a Chiropractic Physician practicing in Danville, CA. You can contact Dr. Arnold directly by emailing him at mailto:PitchingDoc@msn.com or visiting his web site athttp://www.completechiropractichealthcare.com/

    Reference:
    1. "2004/2005 Fact Sheet Cancer Registries: The Foundation for Cancer Prevention and Control" posted on the CDC website www.cdc.gov/cancer
    2. Radice D. Breast cancer management: quality-of-life and cost considerations. Pharmacoeconomics 2003;21(6):383-96
    3. "Breast Cancer" on the National Cancer Institue Website www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/types/breast
    4. Menendez JA. Anti-HER2 (erbB-2) oncogene effects of phenolic compounds directly isolated from commercial Extra-Virgin Olive Oil (EVOO)". BMC Cancer 2008, 8:377 doi:10.1186/1471-2407-8-377
    5. HigdonJV,DelageB, WilliamsDE,DashwoodRH(2007) Cruciferous vegetables and human cancer risk: Epidemiologic evidence and mechanistic basis. Pharmacol Res 55:224-236.
    6. Azarenko O. Suppression of microtubule dynamic instability and turnover in MCF7 breast cancer cells by sulforaphane. Carcinogenesis 2008 29(12):2360-2368; doi:10.1093/carcin/bgn241
    7. Liu JR. Fresh Apples Suppress Mammary Carcinogenesis and Proliferative Activity and Induce Apoptosis in Mammary Tumors of the Sprague-Dawley Rat. Jou Agr Food Chem 2009; 57(1): 297-304
    8. Yoon, H.; Liu, R. H. Effect of selected phytochemicals and apple extracts on NF-kappaB activation in human breast cancer MCF-7 cells J. Agric. Food Chem. 2007 55 3167 3173

  • mumito
    mumito Member Posts: 2,007
    edited April 2009

    I am heading out to buy more red apples pronto.

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 398
    edited April 2009

    ineia - I'm ER+ (10%) and do use ground flaxseed every day. Based on the following from a book Cooking with Foods that Fight Cancer, recommended by my dr, who uses this book herself. I'm quoting bits & pieces: flaxseed being the best plant source of linoleic acid, an omega 3 fatty acid used to make 2 anti-inflammatory substances needed to impede the creation of a context favorable to tumor growth.

    From same book: flaxseeds are the best dietary source of the lignans secoisolariciresinol & matairesinol. (asleep yet? lol) Intestinal bacteria are able to convert these to 2 other molecules whose name I won't burden you with, that interefere with the bondiing of estrogens to to breast cells. In lab research it's been seen that lignans in diet blocked growth of tumors, as opposed to soy isoflavone supplements, which in elevated doses promote the growth of mammary tumors in lab animals.

     this book's conclusion: phtoestrogens present in flaxseed are a valauable dietary alternative to those present in soy & may become an interesting addition to the the diet of bc women, who are strongly discouraged from eating soy

    they add: it's very important to reduce omega 6 fatty intake to allow flaxseed to do its job. A good way is to prefer olive oil over others such as corn & sunflower. And flaxseeds MUST be ground to increase absorption & to favor transformation of lignans into active phytoestrogens.

    All this the work of Molecular Medicine Laboratory in Montreal, which you can  read about in the book Anti Cancer by David Servan-Schreiber. I for one tend to fllow their advice.

  • ineia
    ineia Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2009

    Thank you so much Souad, great info! Im gonna look for that book!

    Ineia

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2009

    I add a red apple every day in my juices I blend.  Good to know they also have extra value.  I do it to hide the taste of the greens :)

    Flalady

  • lisasayers
    lisasayers Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2009

    I normally eat Granny Smith, but I'll be adding more red now!

  • fairy49
    fairy49 Member Posts: 536
    edited April 2009

    Thanks Lisa!! I saw the report on apples on our local news yesterday morning, but they didn't indicate red apples so good to know!! I have eaten about 2-3 organic red apples daily since DX.  Lisa I love your new picture!!

    Lorraine ox

  • eleanorj
    eleanorj Member Posts: 28
    edited April 2009

    Hummm, Lisa, your study states using red delicicous apples. It's the only type that doesn't enter our house, we just don't like those. Now I might be wrong, but it's my understanding that the red delicious brand are the most genetically worked apples to make them look so red & appealing to customers? Am I wrong?

  • lisasayers
    lisasayers Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2009

    Just passing along the information.  I'm not a fan of Red Delicious either, but I would think you are safe with the organic ones!

  • amberyba
    amberyba Member Posts: 180
    edited April 2009

    i wonder if any red apple would suffice. we like gala and pink lady.

    wonder of wonders, i was looking for organic virgin coconut oil and my local grocer carries it....Hooray....then I noticed that they carry all kinds of organic pressed oils. Grapeseed was one of those. How can you use grapeseed oil?....I was going to get some and I thought what are ways and benefits for using it....so if any one has input, I'd appreciate it.

    Amber

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 624
    edited April 2009

    The study doesn't indicate whether or not the entire apple (inluding skin and seeds) was eaten by the rats, or just the pulp.  As for the red delicious variety, I suspect that before the study began, the rats were given a choice of apples, and they simply preferred red delicious -- mealy and not juicy.  So to make sure the rats actually ate the apples regularly (otherwise the study would be a bust), they got their preferred variety!

    I've mentioned this book before, but here it is again "An Apple A Day" by Dr. J. Schwarcz, a biochemist at McGill University in Montreal.  He does a super job of explaining the actions of the many foods we eat, and destroying myths about several so-called "wonder foods".

    Here's to good eating, everyone!

    Linda

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2009

    It's the red skin that has the value in the article I read.

    Flalady

  • eleanorj
    eleanorj Member Posts: 28
    edited April 2009

    Thanks Linda, just found out my library has "An Apple a Day" book, so I'll be checking it out.

  • lisasayers
    lisasayers Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2009

    Thought I would share this in case anybody is interested.

    http://radioforyourhealth.com/?p=259

    Today's Guest:

    Cancer can be treated far more effectively by an integrative approach-that is combining both Western and complementary therapies. Dr. Keith Block, one of this countries' premier integrative oncologists, is the guest today. He discusses his treatment approach which addresses the whole person and offers healing, recovery, life and living strategies for people with cancer. Treating each individual according to their personalized needs, biology, and preferences, Dr. Block uses chemotherapy in innovative ways along with nutritional supplements, special diet plans, exercise programs, and mind/body techniques to achieve results far better than standard therapy. If you or someone you know has cancer, you won't want to miss this podcast!

    Keith I. Block, M.D., is the Director of Integrative Medical Education at the University of Illinois College of Medicine; Medical Director of the Block Center for Integrative Cancer Treatment in Evanston, Illinois; and editor-in-chief of the peer-reviewed journal Integrative Cancer Therapies. He is also Founder and Scientific Director of the non-profit Institute for Integrative Cancer Research and Education and a member of the National Cancer Institute's Physician Data Query Complementary and Alternative Medicine (CAM) Editorial Board.

    Dr. Block's book, Life Over Cancer: The Block Center Program for Integrative Cancer Treatment, published by Bantam Books Hardcover, will be available April 21, 2009.

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2009

    I just order Dr Block's book last week off Amazon for when it comes in.

    Flalady