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All I can say is BRAVO Dr. Brawley !!! He is chief medical officer and executive vice president of the American Cancer Society
"The System Really Is Not Failing ... Failure Is The System
At a recent Association of Health Care Journalists meeting in Atlanta (where Dr. Brawley also serves as a professor at Emory University), he slammed everyone in the health care system for overuse of under-proven treatments.
There really is a subtle form of corruption in American health care. Who is at fault for this corruption? Quite honestly it's the doctors, it's the hospitals, it's the hospital systems, it's the insurers. It's the drug companies, it's the lawyers and it's even the patients. Everyone is at fault for the fact that the system really is not failing. Quite honestly, failure is the system.
We have doctors who want money. We have companies that want money, they give - those doctors give unnecessary chemotherapy. In my business those doctors give unnecessary surgeries and treatments, unnecessary imaging. They make promises about screening tests that we don't know.
... My own American Cancer Society recommended every man over 50 get prostate cancer screening, every black man over 40 back in 1992, without adequate scientific data.
...Quite honestly, a whole bunch of doctors have drunk the Kool-Aid. They don't actually understand that prostate cancer screening may not save lives. The fact that some of them make money off them helps them to not understand, of course
You see, what we need to do and what we desperately need to do is not reform health care. We need to transform how we view health care. We need to become much more appreciative of prevention efforts. We need to reimburse doctors who coach and talk to patients far better than we are.
Today we give doctors who do interventions in patients a lot more money than they should be getting and doctors who talk to patients very little money. The incentive on the doctor today is to not talk to patients, just move them in, move them out and get volume.
We need to understand and appreciate science. We're not going to have improvements in our healthcare system until the mass population demands that doctors appreciate science, justify their recommendations and justify their decisions. We need the skeptical, educated consumer. We need people who consume medicine to think about health care the same way they think about buying a television set at a Best Buy."
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2012/may/02/otis-brawley-ahcj-american-cancer-society.aspx
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I get a news letter from Natual News and tonight there will be a free live show with Dr. Keith Block, MD, Integrative Oncologist and Co-founder of the Block Center. Here is the link if anyone is interested in listening. I will unfornatley be on the road to my son's house so won't be able to listen in.
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How is every one out there? Not much going on here for the three day weekend? I am heading to Denver to visit with my aunt and her kids. Haven't seen them since last May when they all came down for my mom's service. My aunt was dx with stage IV kidney cancer and is declining quickly. Knowing I am heading into chemo and having NO idea how I will respond, decided we needed to get up there sooner rather than later. Hoping it is a good visit. Usually is. Food is always great when we all get together.
Blessings.
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Hi Vicki, it is quiet around here! I read on another thread that a lot of ladies take a "break from the disease" on weekends. I'm still laying around recovering, so have been checking.
Have a nice visit, I hope it is a good one for you.
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I know this information is in this thread somewhere but I can't find it... I'd appreciate it if someone could please tell me how much grape seed extract I should be taking. I've read everything from 200-19,000 mgs! Also, the dosage for Myomin and can I take these two pills together - are there any interactions?
Terri
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Terri - I know nothing. Good luck.
Today I made butter, yogurt and kefir from milk that we get from our share in an organic dairy herd, all naturally-raised and grazed raw dairy milk. I feel good.
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Hi Terri,
I sent you a pm. about getting together for a coffee.
(Hopefully someone will come along with the info you require)
Glenis
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I'm no help either, Terri, but someone should know and share it soon.
DianeEssa - If I bring the fruit will you share your yogurt with me? That sounds sooooo good....
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http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/79/topic/760441?page=1#idx_11
Hi Terri,
Here is a grape extract thread, only 2 pages so not too much reading and they talk about dosage.
Glenis
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Okay, fell off the healthy bandwagon today...just HAD to have some gummy bears. Haribo, of course. (The only ones that count) But, dinner is roast chicken and salad with homemade vinagrette. Get to finally do some big shopping at WF this weekend. Meat is what I am going to look for; and some organic veggies.
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Thanks for the link Glenis. I pm'd you. I guess I'll be adding grape seed extract to my morning cocktail of pills!
Terri
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Essa. sounds awful!
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Essa, sounds awesome!
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Hi ladies, it's been a while since I've logged in. Things look different around here! I think I liked it better before, but the memory of how it looked previously is already fading. lol
I suddenly realized yesterday that I was having yet another anniversary. June 14, 2005, was my last chemo treatment. Then it was the paperwork nightmare from hell from my local doctors. I decided to travel to New Orleans for a diep flap reconstruction, and my local doctors nearly scared me to death for making that decision. Then they delayed sending paperwork to nola to get my surgery scheduled. What a terrible time that was. I wonder if I could retrieve my posts from that long ago? It's nothing short of a miracle that I didn't erupt from head to toe with shingles during that time. I feel lucky to still be here to complain about it. I feel thankful to this day that bco was here for me then. The reconstruction section is how I learned about diep and where to find the best surgeons.
So many changes have happened. I really felt like crap literally for years after my treatments. Radiation knocked me on my ass. Tired all the time, nauseated all the time, bones hurt, heart felt heavy. I've been tweaking my lifestyle and diet ever since. Now I'm a certified health counselor and I'm launching a new career. I feel great. I eat well. I care for my mom who's 84 years old. I've been her personal chef and chauffeur for almost 2 years now. I'm very happy to report that it's been a full 10 months since her last uti. She had 3 in the year before that. It just goes to show how much mileage good food and company can yield.
I go with her to all her doctors appointments. That's always an exercise in frustration. Many times I've felt moments away from a major hissy fit meltdown in the middle of their office. If I thought there was a better doctor for her to see, I'd have there in a heartbeat. One time I spent 45 minutes on hold just to speak with the receptionist. It made me realize that I need some stress reduction management tools. I have quite a collection nowadays, and I've decided to focus on stress management in addition to nutrition.
One of the things I learned in nutrition school is the notion of 'crowding out'. Instead of focusing on foods that you have to give up for a healthier diet, shift the focus to healthier things to include which crowd out the unhealthy choices. So give up french fries. Crowd them out with salad.
At this point, I feel the same way about bco. I've visited just a handful of threads, and I've already seen the same ol' players spewing the same toxic vibes that diminish my joy in visiting here. The ignore button just isn't enough. Just seeing the usernames next to a recent post is enough to make my stomach churn. So nowadays, I'm hanging with my colleagues in a number of different private facebook groups, and I feel much more content.
I need to get some soup started right now. Gotta go. Probably won't be logging in much from this point forward, so send me a pm with your contact info if you want to stay in touch.
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althea: Good to hear from you, and congratulations on your new healthy lifestyle. I've been on my program for almost 9 months now and I feel so good! I haven't had a lot of the SE's that others have had, but I didn't do chemo or rads...just diet, IV's, and supplementation, all prescribed by my ND. I really shouldn't call it a diet, it's a new way to eat and live.
All the best to you!
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Althea, have you heard of SonoCine? It's a super ultrasound technique that can visualize any mass that is over a certain number of millimeters. I'm using it for monitoring instead of anything with xray or gado.
My triple negative 1.4 cm tumor was completely invisible on mammo--even with a marker bead sticker over it, as it was palpable (thank the heavens, and my kitty cats who kept pawing away at it). The tumor was growing so fast (in thirteen days it grew over 3 mil in length) it had no time to accumulate calcium to make it visible to xray. It showed up on US and a SonoCine, in detail too.
I'm also doing thermography for f/u.
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DianeEssa, omg. I'm so jealous. We can't find any raw milk lately. The FDA is busy sending ATF teams to raid the small farms that provide it. I never thought I'd see this day.
Nevermind that it's okay to put mercury in our mouths as fillings; raw dairy is being treated as if it is some sort of haz mat by the FDA. Where is the public outrage?
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Hi all
Like Althea, I have been hangin out elsewhere lately. I just spent three days in holistic health heaven at The Health Freedom Expo in Chicago. I heard so many amazing doctors and speakers. Here are some of my favorites:
Dr. John Apsley-former Olympic swimmer hopeful who had a health crisies right before the Olympics in about 76. He had to change course and became a doctor who has studied healthy civilizations all over the world. He has a new book coming out about alternative cancer treatments.
Dr. Leonard Coldwell-An inspiring man who talked about the important of emotional healing. I got his new book "The Only Answer to Surviviing Your Illness and your Doctor". Can't wait to read i.
Dr. Carolyn Dean-I got an autographed copy of her book that I have had my eye on for quite a while about Magnesium.
I got to meet Marilu Henner. What a firecracker. She talked about how she finally met her soul mate, only to discover he had cancer 2 months later. She got him healthy with nurition and he is still alive, even though the doctors said there was not much they could do.
There were a lot of health freedom fighters as well. Jonathan Emord is the only lawyer who has successfully won cases against the FDA and I met folks from a non profit that I really trust, The National Health Federation, who are trying to stop the FDA's push to get congress to regulate supplements.
You should all try to attend these events in LA or Chicago. It is a wonderful learning experience.
Also, I am looking into water distillation. PM me if you want more info.
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Nice vivre! It sounds like you had fun and learned a lot. I'll have to watch for Apsley's book.
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back again - I have learned to make the creamiest yogurt and it isn't sour at all. Love it!
I think the raw milk has helped me, esp the chance I had to drink excess colostrum for a week. The calf ony drinks so much in a day, the rest is processed, soon the calf has the milk.
Tomorrow I go the the onc for fist time ever, getting tests, a PET/CT which they have in their clinic. They are up to date on oral medications by RainTree. I am not into the chemo or rads, I wwant the immunology support and tests to ssee where I am. Have been refused by three cancer centers since this started bcz i was too honest in telling them I was not going to use the chemo or rads and had already had the surgery. So this place, I did npt tell them, I am just going, letting them do all the test I approve of then when they discuss the chemo and rads (Rads I was told I could not use) I will say, so what ELSE do you have? My GP put me up to this one, smart lady.
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Oh God good luck Essa! I got dismissed by my breast health center because I refused mammograms and chemo. I mean, geez. They wouldn't even let me make an appointment for a year out. They totally don't want to see me at all unless the cancer comes back. I guess that's what they mean by PRN.
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Essa: Good for you! You have to beat them at their own game;) Keep us posted on your results!
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crossposted by me from Alt TX
Diane Essa wrote
Okay - I can say what I think here.
The onc appt today was so I could get the tests I deserve. I went there and bullshooted my way through, not letting anyone know I am alternative bcz I was turned down by THREE cancer care centers for being too honest. Right back to what Dunes said two pages back in her experience, your own docs tell you that if you are not gonna do it my way, then the highway, not working with you.
So now the tests are almost all scheduled. I hate this, so many, so much radioactive this and that. But I have detox homeopathics for that, and flower essences etc. I am a point I need to know more. I am too exhausted but the masses in right breast, all three have disappeared within last few weeks. And the fibro thingees in left breast went away after the Chinese medicine/acupuncture. Exhausstion can be from becoming more ill or from detoxing and healing, esp if not flushing enough or if thehealingis massive, so I need to know why I am exhausted.
BUT I am concerned bcz the GP last month and the onc today both state there is a large mass in right breast above the excisional biopsy surgery, that it is there. BUT I feel that it is left over breast tissue afte bx took out 1/4 of my breast. Yes, it feels weird and dissected from rest of breast but I think it is breast tissue bcz it feels just like the tissue on left side.
The onc today said I am not metastatic, but we will see after the tests, but he smiled, so we shall see. Still, I had lymph node cancer, and again, I say, all they see is the breast. I call the cancer going into my lymph node enough of a mets to be concerned, but it is ignored.
I also say that the mammogram floored me, bcz he asked me if I would have any objection to having one now, that floored me, bcz he aasked, like he might find a reason to notwant me to do it, it has only been since Feb for 6 slides then and Sept for four slides and I did have full blown burning like IBC all over for a few months and almost had them cut these babes off bcz of the pain of the mammos, but it went away. So no, I am not doing mammos now, they can use PET/CT, US, brain MRI which they are since I smell smoke all the time.... but not mammos until deemed necessary.
Saying, they are going to have to prove to me beyond the shadow of doubt that this is a mass for real before I will have mammo. Or a BMX.
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Essa, I totally agree, enough mammos !! PET would give you most peace of mind if you're thinking mets - at my last follow-up (approx 10 months ago) I had MRI, the BS last week wanted to repeat that, I said NO, thanks. I want a US next and then, maybe, just maybe mammo next year. Just read that the new 3D machines are no more accurate than the old machines, WTH
Just looking at this new machine on a new thread: http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/73/topic/789276?page=1#idx_2
I totally agree with not telling the conventional docs - next appt with my onco beginning of July. Since I quit Tamox a few months ago (told him I was taking a break), he'll want to start me on an AI. I'll just take the script and not fill it and not tell him. DIM is definitely working for me, the aches and pains and sweats exactly the same as Tamox.
Let us know how it goes with the tests and try not to worry
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I have this thing under my numb right arm - numb from lymph node surgery. Higher in armpit there is a lesion, I think, feels thick under skin, has a hollow in center and is red, but I cannot really feel pain, arm is numb. I was not shaving due to numbness. But in shower 9 days ago discovered it. So shaved to show onc today. He said it is not cancer, it is an ingrown hair follicle. He then said it looked like I had cut myself when shaving. Sorry, no agree.
Image of what it looks like. Sort of like spider bite, sort of like cancer lesion.
My arm is sore in the muscles, I have less range of motion than before from the armpit, I did use sole Ojibwa salve on it and tea tree oil at first and it improved but w memory issues I forgot it was there for 5+ days and didn't treat it.
Looks most like bottom RIGHT only center was whiter. These are basal cell skin cancer lesions.
The risk factor is from sun, of course, but also for those w challenged immune systems which mine was for a long long time w the OWB next door.
Just worrried. There is US of the R an dL axilla and both bbreasts and a PET / CT pplus brain MRI and forget what else, so they will know for certain I suppose this next week.
I think I will change drs at the place already, just not feeling it, wish I had been scheduled for th right one.
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Hi Maud. I take DIM and I also take Chrysin. It is what my ND recommended, not that I think all that highly of that mothereffer. I may not like him and may not go back to him, but I do believe he is knowledgeable. This is what I take;
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Essa, we are here for you and will hold your hand through this if you allow us to. For now you have to play that waiting game. Meanwhile, you know there are lots of alternative ways to be destroying cancer cells. Get a bunch of good organic apples. Eat an apple a day, including the seeds. You have to chew those seeds. Those seeds will do the same thing as apricot seeds, which as you know contain B17, aka laetrile.
"When the laetrile compound molecule comes across a cancer cell, it is broken down into 2 molecules of glucose, 1 molecule of hydrogen cyanide and 1 molecule of benzaldehyde. In the early days of laetrile research it was assumed that the hydrogen cyanide molecule was the major cancer cell killing molecule, but now it is known that it is the benzaldehyde molecule that is by far the major reason the cancer cell is killed.
The reason laetrile therapy takes so long to work, in spite of the marvelous design of the laetrile molecule, is because if the laetrile molecule happens to chemically react with the enzyme of a non-cancerous cell (i.e. rhodanese), before it reacts with the enzyme of a cancerous cell (beta-glucosidase), the rhodanese will break apart the laetrile molecule in such a way that it can no longer kill a cancer cell. Thus you have to take enough laetrile molecules, over a long enough time, that enough laetrile molecules coincidently (as far as we know) hits all of the cancer cells first.
The second way that laetrile therapy works is because of the laetrile diet. Like the metabolic diet, it is designed to build up the trypsin and chymotrypsin in the body, and let them work on the cancer cells. What they do is break down the enzymes surrounding the cancer cell so the white blood cells can identify and kill the cancer cell. More will be said about the cancer diet below.
One of the good side-effects of laetrile therapy is that more Vitamin B12 is made in the body. With this in mind, make sure you supplement laetrile therapy with Vitamin C. Vitamin C and Vitamin B12 are, by themselves, a treatment for cancer."comes from http://zazenlife.com/2012/01/10/apricot-seeds-can-they-cure-cancer/
although I am reading G. Edward Griffin's World Without Cancer which goes into a lot more of it.It really only acts on the cancer cells because of the (ok I don't remember but) something the cancer cells give off, probably because of their use of fermentation as their means of respiration.
You can also purchase apricot seeds online. They are very bitter and make you mouth go kind of numb. However, they have not had any other side effects for me.
This is just one thing you can do to be treating any possible cancer while you are letting them test you. I'm sure you know of many other things and are probably doing them. Above all, you must try to settle your mind. Please don't yell at me for saying that. I know I want to scream at people who are telling me the same thing. Unfortunately, without tranquilizers I have very limited success at calming down right now. However, giving it to God definitely helps and if I would do some exercise, that would probably help.
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Thanks Dunes - i need some hand holding right now, am shook up a bit, how a mass can be growing in me and I don't feel it. I hope they are wrong.
gardening helps me and flower essences and oils. But my mind is kinda numb in denial right now, worse than when I found the mass on my own, back July 2011 which I found in May or so but due to memory issues I forgot I found it and didn't tell anyone then found it again maybe once more then in July. Now that is memory issues. There was just this vagueness of doing the self exam and there it was and forgot.
This time I think it is NOT there and they say it is. WTH. But my boob hurts. Psycho-samatic? spelling... but Probably.
The B17, I have the book, I took the pills a few times, and right now the apricot kernels are on my protocol again and the pills, have to reorder when I have the cash. Problem is always that I do not have the money to do for me what I need to do. No memory, struggle to remember day to day. Cannot work, it takes me a long time to type out what I want to say, fixing the typos and weird words my brain comes up with, I miss my point over and over sometimes. Cannot get disability, if I could I would usse that to pay for treatment. My business slumped bcz I cannot do it. I try, I never get there. Hours I spent yesterday tyring to fix a hack into my business blog only to realize it is some kind of whatever it is into my laptop and on all pages, these popups are coming up all over and I don't know how to stop it and lost hours and hours. I want to do my newsletters aagain and do not know what to say, buy this because it is good, I am at a loss, I used to be good but now I can only do personable, my memory really got cooked two yrs ago. This is the new me.
The last few hrs have tried to file these papers but they are still here, shuffled, worse than before, need to do something w all of them, bills, calls,, so no sense going into file cabinet or bill file yet anyway but I tried and lost two hrs again.
Right now my kinesiology test was good for Ojibwa tea w bloodroot extract, go figure how often it comes to my mind in a day, but I am to do 4x and do 2x if lucky. Also the Laetrile. The paw paw capsules, 2 3x day. There's more for lymphs and thyroid and digestion. I also tested for 714X finally. The injecttions for large lymph system and the nebulizer for small lymph sisyem, but together these are $800 for 21 days and I need 3+ months.
I think I am boing backed into the corner, I want the alternatives, the strong stuff that rich people can go get, and I am feeling like I will have to choose the chemo and rads. The ins will pay for that, all the hundred of thousands a year until what? But the $2400 - $4800 for the 714X, no.
Today after I went into the clinic to get paperwork to fill out, I cried, I bawled, I have to say there was a lot of snot, I really really cried. Everyone was so sick, they looked like they never knew health before or would again. I glow, I am after quality of life. It is not right that we do not have a choice if we do not have the cash or credit, or that I have losst my good credit bcz of the outside wood boiler we had to escape, just angers me, I thought I could get past this but I am not now.
Thanks though for reaching out, I need it.
ETA on Spetember 6, 2012 -The onc was wrong , the P was wrong, the surgeon was wrong. I did not have a new mass, it was breast tissue that did not have tissue beneath so felt funny. The surgeon was wrong bcz he had left a positive margin in Nov 11 and wanted to do reexcision, but he would not have removed more nodes which is where he left positive cancer nodes, they have been inside me for all this time, unknown until my July 12 PETCT then biopsy. I will never have another invasive test, nor will I trust another medical doctor until they have proven without doubt that they are trustworthy with my life. I am now recovering and feel wonderful, have transitioned my protocol from July 2011 until now, I never let up and my QOL is better than it was before way back 5 yrs ago. I attribute this to ellagic acid Meeker variety powder and the Laaetrile, plus control of estrogens, adding bioidentical progesterone and making certain thyroid is where it needs to function best, as my immune and health will not recover untilall of me is in balance. LOVEEssa
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I hope, if there is something there Essa, it is benign. I know what you mean about the money. I will not be able to continue to take all my supplements. I am thinking about taking certain ones one week, then others the next, and alternating back and forth like that. It means being extra good with the foods I eat and with exercising. Too often I overlook the spiritual aspect, so I need to make that a daily habit too.
None of us can say what we will do until the time comes to do it, but for now I say I will never choose chemo or rads.
((( Essa )))
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What you are doing with supplements, I call transitioning. The cancer morphs so transitioning is good, never give it a chance to figure you out again.
Hubby keeps using the phrase - but you are fighting this.
I keep saying no I am not fighting, I cannot will not fight. i am becoming more biologically, physiologically secure, more whole. The cancer needs to expire gently. That is what the immune system does. The 714X is for the immune system and lymph systems. All my cancer is seemingly in my small lymph system, above waist, on right side of body. Thus I need both the injections for large system which is other parts of body and the nebulizer for the small lymph system. Canada, their govt recognizes the treatment. They have had it since the 1950s. I can do it for myself too, since I am not on a deathbed.
I have chosen many alts and this is the one that I would spend the money on.
Supposed to be writing to my nearby Lion's Club tonight, with hope to save my life..... so better start thinking. my right arm is not as swollen as usual so typing quicker than usual tonight, but the ppain is beginning.
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