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Anyone know if club soda is okay for us? I just had the mose wonderful carbonatied lemonade using fresh lemon, agave nector and club soda, Yum!
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I just purchased some DIM and began taking it a few days ago. From everything I've read here and in books, it looks like something everyone over 40 should be taking. My husband is taking it too. I am still taking my IC3 supplement as well.
SeaOttter - I had only two nodes removed, then radiation. I didn't find out till after, that radiation multiplies your chances of developing lymphedema. If I had known, I would have opted for a full mastectomy so I could skip the rads. I did develop lymphedema, and it is THE WORST part of this entire cancer ordeal. Unfortunately, you already lost all your nodes... do your research to see if there is an alternative to rads.
About the antioxidants - I ignored my oncologist and my rad oncologist and took massive amounts of antioxidants throughout my treatment. There really is conflicting research out there that supports this. My docs were amazed at how well my tumors responded to the chemo, and also how easily I sailed through all the treatment with very few side effects. I feel the anti-oxidants helped the chemo/rads work better and the rest of my body stayed healthier through it all.
Merilee - just use sparkling water. Club soda has added sugar and stuff. Sparking water is just water and air
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Just a word of caution about turmeric: it promotes the production of bile, so if you have any gall bladder problems, stick to a very low dose -- I think I read that 10 mgs is safe.
Linda
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I meet with my D.O. on Tueday to go over my hormone results. Please help me know what to ask.
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Hey thanks Munchy! I'm opting out of radiation. None of my doctors are happy about it, lol. I really did not expect anything else. They are also not happy about my decision to skip the hormone therapy. I will take my DIM, iodoral and anti-oxidants and have quality of life.
God Bless us all
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Merilee! I would ask them what your 2 Hydroxyestrone level, your 16 Hydroxyestrone level and your 2:16 Hydroxyestrone ratio is, also your SHBG - sex hormone binding globulin result - you want the SHBG to be high as this binds the bad estrogen (estradiol) so its not flowing around doing damage (laymans terms!) SHBG is generally viewed as protective against cancers of estrogen sensitive tissues. From the info I have received from the naturopathic doctor I am seeing, and from my own research, these things seem to be key in hormone balance.
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Thanks Fairy
Should be an interesting meeting.
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Seaotter,
I see that your taking New Chapter. The list of ingredients are low in vitamins and such for 6 pills daily. It's a good start, but you might want to consider juicing along with it and fruit smoothies?
Here's a fruit smoothie recipe: <4 ozs of concord grape juice, organic strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, and blueberries. If they don't sell fresh organic, they might have them in the frozen section of your grocery store. It's the seeds of the berries that are beneficial for us besides other nourishment. Adding a few drops of organic apple extract to the juice would be wonderful, but they don't sell it anywhere! Why do research when we can't buy the product???? They should just keep the findings to themselves then. Oh, and munching on cranberries (craisins) is beneficial also.
I just bought the Gerson therapy book so I can get some juicing recipes. If I'm going to juice, I might as well target it to what works best. I'll pass them on when the book comes in.
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Seaotter-Make sure you get as many antioxidants as you can to knock out any stray baddies. As Rosemary said, get on one of those strict juicing protocols that will power up your health. And have those iodine loading and hormone tests done so that you know which direction to go.
Rosemary- when you juice,don't the seeds get discarded? When I make smoothies with my blender, the seeds make me crazy because they are so grainy and get stuck in my teeth. What do you do?
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Hi All, thought you may be interested (as I was) to learn what foods are more/less important to buy organic. (I cannot find organic berries easily, but may need to look harder!) I was surprised about the Broccoli!!
1. Apples
2. Peaches
3. Bell Peppers
4. Pears
5. Celery
6. Potatoes
7. Cherries
8. Raspberries
9. Imported Grapes
10. Spinach
11. Nectarines
12. StrawberriesThese are the least contaminated fruits and vegetables.
1. Asparagus
2. Kiwi
3. Avocados
4. Mangos
5. Bananas
6. Onions
7. Broccoli
8. Papaya
9. Cauliflower
10. Pineapples
11. Corn (sweet, frozen)
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I buy a lot of organic fruits & veggies, but some things are just way too expensive to be practical. Also, we live in a very agricultural area, and I think there's a benefit to buying just-picked produce, even if it's not organic. So, I no longer just rinse stuff off, I actually soak it in water with a bit of a natural surfactant, to remove all the herbicides and pesticides. You'd be surprised at how dirty the water gets when you do this.
Lorraine ~ Just wanted to tell you that the Metanx is definitely working -- not only on the mojo, but I seem to be getting more feeling back on my mast side. Since it's been just a year since I had my mast, I suppose it could be that, or even some of the swelling from rads wearing off. But, I have a feeling it's the Metanx helping those nerve endings to kick in again. Deanna
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" Rosemary- when you juice,don't the seeds get discarded? When I make smoothies with my blender, the seeds make me crazy because they are so grainy and get stuck in my teeth. What do you do?"
Vivre,
I know, I have the same problem. I put the smoothies in a blender and actually scrape all the seeds into the smoothie. They are the healers. I don't juice the berries. I try to swollow quickly to get them down without the seeds hanging around in the teeth. Now if you really can't do it, they sell ellagic acid, it's the stuff that comes from the seeds, but then your missing the other nourishment coming from the berries. Some think the seeds don't get broken down too well, but they researched it, and our body gets the job done.
Seaotter, a couple of other tests are important too if you haven't already done them. A dexa scan of your bones, you need to know what's going on there, very important. Also, knowing what your vitamin D blood level is, that's even more important.
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Thanks girls for the tips! I had a bone scan before surgery, is that the same thing as a dexa scan? It was clear. As far as the juicing: I just looked up Gerson and juicing. There is no way I can afford a juicer!!! Can I just use my smoothie maker???? Wouldn't eating the fruits be just as helpful??? I get so confused with all the research and trying to make sense of it all
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Deanna, ok, soak and scrub. What is a natural surfactant??0
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seaotter - I just had a bone scan (to check for mets), it was the same scan they ran before I started chemo. The dexa scan is for bone density to check for osteopenia or osteoporosis. Glad it was clear! Mine too!!
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Oh Kari, I thought it was a density thing! Congrats Girl! That is fantastic!!! (Same to you SeaOtter!)
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Spring ~ A surfactant is something that cleans by breaking down the tension between dirt and whatever the dirt is on. I use a few drops of Shaklee Basic H, which I've used for household cleaning for 25+ years. But there are similar things out there, including products in the produce section that I assume do the same thing, but are just more expensive. Anyway, you'd be shocked at the amount of stuff that ends up on the soaking water, including tiny little bugs. Ewwwww.............
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I use Natural Veggie Wash - it uses citrus oils as a natural surfactant. I purchase it at Whole Foods and it is manufactured by Beaumont Products, Inc. I have been just spraying it on, then either scrubbing (for potatoes, etc) or just rinsing (berries, etc). It sounds like soaking is much better - I will have to start doing that. Thanks!
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Hi Everyone. I just started reading here. I'm trying to fight this as best I can and was looking for ways through nutrition. Since there are so many pages can someone please tell me the best way to start as far as foods? Someone told me about eating Flaxseed oil and cottage cheese. Yes/No? I appreciate any advice.
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The Jack LaLanne juicer gets the job done. But there is loads of pulp leftover. I think the more expensive ones would have less pulp, and probably the pulp would be drier. I can't say for sure because I never saw an expensive one work. Jack's cost $99.00. I went with the least expensive because I didn't know if I'd stay committed to it. So far so good. The clean-up part is the hardest. All the parts that need to be cleaned go into the dishwasher, that's the good part.
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reen,
This will get you stated:
Here's a fruit smoothie recipe: In a blender <4 ozs of concord grape juice, organic strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, and blueberries. If they don't sell fresh organic, they might have them in the frozen section of your grocery store. It's the seeds of the berries that are beneficial for us besides other nourishment. Adding a few drops of organic apple extract to the juice would be wonderful, but they don't sell it anywhere! Why do research when we can't buy the product???? They should just keep the findings to themselves then. Oh, and munching on cranberries (craisins) is beneficial also.
I don't understand the concept of cottage cheese. The flaxseed oil yes, but the cottage cheese was explained here a few pages back, and I didn't get what it's suppose to do. I think there's a thread where people are talking about it. The Budwig diet.
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Ok, I have GOT to start using that surfactant stuff!! ewwwwww
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Ok girls, I have yet another problem. I can't seem to gain weight. Since my bc I have been eating healthy. I lost a few pounds during the 3 treatments of chemo. I am still at that weight. I looked into protein powders but they are full of soy. How can I gain weight when I eat good stuff that isn't fattening? I'm 54 - 5'8' and 119 pounds, it isn't pretty. I looked like I'm dying. I'm still bald from chemo so I still where scarves. People are staring at me!!!! (I really don't care about that) I just want some weight!!!!! Any ideas would be helpful and you girls are always helpful!!! Thanks.
God Bless Us All
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Seaotter,
People take protein to lose weight. Carbs, and fruits with their natural sugars wouldn't that do it?
There is a protein powder out there without soy and not from cows that have been injected with hormones. I'll try to look for it again, but carbs would be more likely to help I would think.
I found it:
http://www.globalhempstore.com/hemp-food/nutiva-hemp-protein-powder.html
Notice where it says no hexane as in soy protein powders?
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seaotter ~ I doubt if your weight alone is making people stare, and if so, maybe it's not in the way that you think because your body sounds like something out of the pages of Vogue, which most women would envy! But if you feel you need to put some weight on, have you tried whey protein? That's what I use now, instead of soy.
Also, here are some healthful calorie-adding suggestions from Dr. Andrew Weil's website:
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA106644
Deanna
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Well someone has to explain to me how a person can put on weight drinking protein. High protein diets, without many carbs and drinking loads of water can take off pounds in a day if its done right. So I don't get it.
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Thanks girls for the websites. I checked them out and they look helpful. I just thought those protein powder drinks were full of calories, I guess I thought wrong. Do you guys know if the iodoral should be taken on an empty stomach? It does not say on the bottle. 0
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Rosemary, seaotter ~ I think to gain weight, one could add protein shakes as between meal snacks. So, instead of having a piece of fruit for example, that might be 100 calories, you could add a scoop of whey protein to a drink with juice, fruit, maybe some yogurt or peanut butter or other higher calorie food, etc. If the protein has 130 calories, you could easily get up to 350+ extra calories in a drink with those other added things.
You're right though. If you were existing on protein alone, which isn't very healthy, you'd probably drop weight. But it's not that protein won't add calories/weight. Pound for pound, protein has the same amount of calories as carbohydrates. When you do only protein (as in a high protein diet), you're creating a metabolic reaction (ketosis) which burns your own body fat (& muscle eventually) for the energy you're not getting from carbohydrates. Deanna
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Deanna, did you do all the chemo and radiation that was recommended to you?
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Thanks Deanna, that explains it. Add to other foods for more calories. Makes sense.
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