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Rosemary, I had the same dilemna about pulp or no pulp. My chiro/nutritionist feels it is better to eat the pulp for the fiber. But I just cannot get down that thick liquid. I wish I could get over it, because I know I could get more veggies that way. I just try to keep eating my raw greens and hope I can get enough with supplements. I just can't get past the gag reflex. I juiced carrots, a cuke, some garlic, and a red pepper yesterday, and even though I liked the taste, there is just something about drinking the stuff that gets to me. I only like to drink tea and water, and even before I kicked my sugar habit, I did not like sweet drinks. That is why I like juice even less if I add an apple. I do put a splash of OJ in my Pelligrino for my mid morning treat, but that is as far as I can go.
I bought an inexpensive juicer just to give it a try, and it makes me crazy how much pulp there is. I think I will just get out the cuisinart and make gazpacho(sp?).
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Vivre,
I agree with your chiro about the fiber in pulp. This has to be good. But my other thought, when I juice I put a lot of greens in, quite a lot. Of course with my juicer I have to. With the vitamix, it might be too thick to drink with only a few greens. With a better juicer, I can keep the amount I'm juicing, get more juice which = more nutrients and it still is very watery, and not so filling. Decisions, decisions. I'm looking to get many nutrients in which means using a lot of greens. I guess I'm making up my mind about which one to get as I talk this out. But if I was to use it to lose weight, I'd be going for the vitamix.
Ya know, I'm the last born, and last borns' can never make decisions. My husband is too. Around here it goes like this: I don't know.. you decide. No, I made a decision yesterday it's your turn. Then I call my daughter because she's a first born.
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Rosemary,
these are most of the things my sister uses; flax oil, coQ10, natural progesterone cream. multi vitamin, Vit e or A (can't remember). she runs/jogs for exercise.
On that coconut oil, yes it is good and is great for about everything. LOL!!!!
on Juicing, the pulp is definitely good for you....the thing you must consider is that the juice without the pulp is readily absorbed by your body cells.
The past few weeks I have been under the weather, weak too...I was juicing carrots, and noticed some improvement, but the thing that seemed to help me most is "V-8 infusion" the "Acai berry and Pomegranate Blends". I drank it several times yesterday and never got tired....actually was up from 5am til 11pm....It is the best I have felt in a while. I have just finished a glass as I write....hmm good!!!!!!
I bought Kale and parsley this morning...I have the house to myself for a day and a half, hope to try some delicious/nutritious juice.
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I had the same struggle with the juicer vs. blender and finally settled on the BlendTec (comparable to the VitaMix, yet different). I liked the idea of eating the pulp (I think you still get some immediate uptake of the nutrients after blending them to a somewhat liquid state, plus you have a sort of time-release affect with the pulp/fiber). What sold me on blending vs. juicing is www.GreenSmoothieGirl.com . She has some good info on her site about blending and adopting a raw foods diet...and she makes it seem really cool, too! I do add water and ice to my veggies to give them a more liquid, juicy-like consistency (some will say this dilutes the nutrients, and maybe so, but I use ionized water, which I try to drink alot of each day anyway to help with staying on the alkaline side. I guess bottom-line, whatever method you choose (juicing or blending), if it gets you eating a larger quantity of veggies (especially leafy greens), then you've made a good choice either way! I like things on the sweet side, so I add either apple, red grapes (my favorite), watermelon, etc. I usually use about 6-8 full leafs in my mix (mix of kale, bokchoy, chard, etc.), along with 2 BIG carrots. I personally cannot see myself sitting and eating all this whole....ewwww!
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Hi
Thanks for the Welcomes Rosemary, Sea and Vivre
I hope your gynecologist can help you with test results Sea. I dont see estrogen and progesterone in your results. Have you had those tested? I started researching DIM & I3C last night and discovered quite the debate. Anyone happen to be following this or have a collection of studies relating to these two? With the green juicing is there a concern of Vit A overdose? I have my list of cruciferous veggies. Also juices and insulin levels? Just thinking out loud here. Vivre actually excercise and losing the belly fat seems more doable at the moment than quitting smoking. But both of those go hand in hand. When I feel better after improving my activity level and diet I will be more inclined to get more positive about not smoking. Why is it that we develop more tummy fat during perimenopause?
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cleo - I think on my test results one is estrogen and the other progesterone but heck it all looks greek to me lol. I also looked at the debate on dim or 13c. I chose dim because it seems safe.
Does anyone have a mid price juicer? I am last born also and can't make a decision!!!!! I have decided I can not swing 400.00 for a juicer right now. Hey, I guess I just made a decision on that lol.
God Bless Us All
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rosemary, I've heard a lot of people give a big thumbs up to the greenstar juicers. There's a new online store at the crazysexylife site and greenstar is one of the juicers they offer. I personally don't like pulpy juice, so I wouldn't opt for a vitamix. One significant difference between juicing and making smoothies is juicing allows us to absorb the nutrients without the digestive tract swinging into full gear. Of course, the downside is our daily need for fiber is bypassed with juice. I just don't think there is any bad choice when the result is going to be daily consumption fresh fruits and vegetables, whether it's juice or smoothies. It's sort of like exercise... if you don't choose what you like most, it won't happen.
I don't want to sound like a broken record, but my juicer is a champion. I bought it 20 years ago (sat idle most of that time), but if I need to get replacement parts, I can get them. I imagine shipping would be a lot, but I recall the prices to be around $250. There's only a $25 difference to upgrade to a commercial model. I love my champion.
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Ok question ladies--I eat pre-ground flaxseed in my cereal in the morning. I keep it in the freezer so it stays fresh. I have read that grinding it yourself is the best--how many of you are doing that vs buying pre-ground-or is anyone getting it in oil form? Thanks!
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Althea, yhou always bring a smile to my face! I have had my juiceman jr. (it is faily inexpensive) for about 10 or so years...it was a well appreciated gift. mine sat on the shelf some too. I agree with you...it is just wonderful to be getting the fresh fruits and veges~!!!!! And raw is best....cooking takes away so much nutrition. and the juice takes the nutrition right to where our body needs it.
I just had a wonderful concoction; one large fowering Kale leaf, a handful of parsley and 3 medium carrots. Man it was wonderful. "I FEEL GOOD, SO GOOD!"
I was googling juicing on the web and found out about Angela Stokes....she did a 92 juice fast...she videoed herself taking her first solid after the fast....she said she felt so clean in her body....
I am not contemplating a juice fast, but it is was interesting to know how good the juices make you feel.
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Allie, I have done all of the above. grinding is better, but keeping it in the freezor will help. Barlean's has a good organic oil. It is in the refrig section of health food stores. I did order mine from Barlean online, it came in a few short days.
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allie, I grind my own flaxseed. I purchased an inexpensive coffee grinder just for flax. I mix it with honey and yogurt. Then last summer I started adding flaxseed oil after some reading on the budwig protocol. I tried mixing the flax with cottage cheese and really didn't like it and went back to yogurt. I'm recalling that we need the ground seed to get whatever's in the seed hulls that the oil doesn't have, and we need the oil to get whatever's abundant in the oil so we don't have to eat a small mountain of seeds to get the same effect. Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable that pre-ground flax products are still good by the time I got it home.
I subscribe to the iodine group also and recently some posts were saying flax is goitrogenic, ie., interferes with the uptake of iodine and not recommended for people with underactive thyroids. I've really grown to like my yogurt/flaxseed breakfasts, and I'm dumbstruck that yet another food I like is goitrogenic.
Upon further reflection, though, I'm thinking it may very well be true. So many people have reported feeling so great after getting on the budwig protocol. I had been tweaking foods and supplements with some success last year and was feeling better from march through july 18th. I had a really good day and then crashed and burned the next. That's not so unusual, except that it's almost a year later and I don't feel like I ever recaptured the progress I had made. I just finished a bottle of flaxseed oil and I've just decided I'm not going to get another one.
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Hmm, I think I will switch to grinding my own. Althea, what you said about both being good makes sense--I balk at both grinding my own AND taking the oil...
Hopefully fresh ground works.Sorry you have to give up flaxseed. I hope you feel better after having done so though...let us know if it works.
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In reading about I3C and DIM some literature says that it can effect liver enzymes and increase risk of uterine cancer. Have you come across these studies?
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Thanks all for your help with choosing a blender/juicer. There's got to be a lot of profit in these machines. Some of these prices are off the walls. I think I'm leaning towards the goldstar now but which one? I think they have 4 models.
Cleo,
About your question on vitamin A. From what I know, whenever anyone tells us to up our A, for any reason out there, they are talking about upping our eating of foods rich in A, not taking more synthetic A which is found in vitamin pills. This is important to know. Too much synthetic A offsets our absorption of D. You'll first find that out when your hip begins to annoy you. Or you suddenly become aware of a hip problem. First look to see if you getting in too much synthetic A. Then, also, you might not be taking enough D. Or for that matter you might be juicing too many veggies high in A together. Synthetic A in the number one thing to avoid.
I was trying to up my potassium, so I was juicing spinach and carrots at the same time which I never do. It didn't take long for my hip to begin annoying me. That's why I was so interested in what Althea was saying about her juicing program which helped for hips. Once I started adding more ginger into the juice, my hip stopped bothering me. She might have found the antidote. Normally, our body stores A and when it gets enough it will stop converting it to retinol, but I don't know what happens if we get in way too much. Except to say we might become aware of our hips.
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i don't eat cereal, so i put ground flax and flax oil in a smoothie:
1 cup organic plain fat-free yogurt
2 TBSP ground flax
1 TBSP flax oil
1 scoop whey protein powder
1 TBSP L-glutamine
1 TSP creatine
1 TSP fibersure (esp during chemo this was helpful)
1/2 cup calcium-fortified orange juice
1 cup frozen organic blueberries (super cheap at Trader Joe's)
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So, is flaxseed ok for us??? I'm getting so confused. What about olive oil??
Rosemary - Those goldstar juicers seem expensive. I would love some ideas on a mid price juicer.
God Bless Us All
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sea, ddlatt is ER negative, I think with flax the jury is still out on if we ER positive girls can use it, there is so much conflicting info!
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Fairy - Ohhh thanks. What about olive oil, do you know? Did you happen to see my post about my blood work? I thought you would have some input. I think it is on the previous page. I bet you are a very busy wedding planner in June!!!
God Bless Us All
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I have a Vita mixer also and love it. Best investment I made because it is so easy to clean up. Juicing is so much work and this is like user and food processor. Plus you keep all the fiber in you drink and we all need more fiber. Also natural fibers help you process the natural sugars in fruit and veggies without them turning it a bad carb.
Why we juice? You get more fruit in veggies into your diet. Also breaking the food down makes your body use it much faster because your stomach does not have to do all the work. Remember never keep your juice more than 24 hours because the enzymes start dieing in it.
To start juicing or mixing by adding more fruits to start until you get use to the taste and than back off most of they fruit. I also add flexseed to my juice and mushroom and other things good for me but I don't like. The juice hides the test wonderfully.
Flalady
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Sea,
The champion juicer looks mid-priced. Althea loves hers. Go to amazon and look one up and read the reviews. That's what I've been doing. You can get a lot of insight from those reviews.
Thanks Fla Lady, do you get filled up too much with small amounts of veggies? That's my concern that I won't be able to drink all that I want to juice.
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sea, I did, I am still trying to decipher it all! I have my report out, and am comparing it with what the naturopathic MD said about mine, hopefully I can have some answers for you shortly! I work all weekend, oh the fun of June LOL!! and can you believe it RAINED here in "sunny" CA today! AAAHHHH!! Luckily the sun came out late this afternoon! "talk" to you soon!
L
ox
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oh! forgot to mention! I have zero qualms about using olive oil, I use it for all my cooking, if its bad.....OH WELL!
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Has anyone heard of the supplement Graviola?
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This might be a little off topic but, has anyone had a real CAT SCAN by a real cat? My cat found my breast tumor--he kept pawing at it!
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MsBliss. Talked to a woman who found her cancer because her dog sniffed her breast and it was obvious the dog didn't like what it smelled and wouldn't go near that side again. Mammogram was negative, but she pushed and USN was done and found it. So, I would believe that your cat found yours.
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According to all the speakers at an Alternative and Complementary Breast CA conference that I attended yesterday, flaxseed is great as are all plant estrogens (phytoestrogens). They said that soy in moderation (because too much of it affects the iodine level), flaxseed, and any other phytoestrogens are all preventative for breast cancer because they block the bad estrogens. This goes in line what the majority of what I've been reading. I've read bad things as well about phytoestrogens, but more good than bad, and considering that so many things fall into this category (legumes, many veggies, fruits etc.), I just have to believe that they are good. One thing they stressed is that everything should be organic though, because so many things are sprayed with pesticides, which would add the bad estrogenic substances to the foods.
Raw food diet was also recommended, as cooking destroys many antioxidants (esp. microwaving, very bad), and along with what many of you girls are discussing, Juicing. Some of the most important supplements discussed were Vits. A,C, E, and of course, Vit. D. as well as selenium, maitake mushrooms, and probably more that I can't remember right now, as I'm at work. Exercise was also discussed as being extremely important.
I will put out more information later about what I learned.
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Thanks Rose,
That's a nice report. I am never afraid to eat phytoestrogen foods. I am afraid on any foods that are sprayed either with herbicides and pesticides. They try to convince us otherwise, FDA approved, REALLY? That usually means run away.
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MsBliss, kmmd, WOW!! I am floored by your posts, that is amazing. I have heard of that before, but always thought it a little "out there", however I am now convinced!! Yikes, if my dog starts sniffing around my new foobies I shall be a little nervous!!
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Hope everyone is enjoying a leisurely Fathers Day. I just wanted to report that I used my new PTFE and PFOA Free omelet pan this morning, and it's wonderful! The interior coating is very slick, and it worked flawlessly. The one I got is by IPAC. It looks like they have a website, although I got mine at Home Goods: www.ipacitaly.it Deanna
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Hi girls.
Pardon my intrusion. I was wondering if someone could recommend any natural eating/cooking reading for me.( When it pertains to healthy estrogen ect. )
I have been an organic/vegetarian junkie for years.(5). But, I am clueless to which foods to embrace & which to avoid. I am starting to see fatty & sweet is bad?
Thanks in advance, Dawn
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