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Hi Everyone,
I have an odd question. Just looking for your thoughts. I have LCIS and fibrocystic breasts. The BS did an excisional in July and got clean margins. My breast feels so much better!! I have a nasty fibroadenoma and cysts in my other breast. I am considering having my surgeon remove it and get some of the pesky cysts.
Do you think having surgery to remove lumps is dangerous?
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Cleomoon, I had heard from doctors that having three or more breast surguries increases a woman's risk of developing breast cancer.
There is a thread here on iodine, thyroid and breast cancer. Many women find that their fibrocyctic breasts go away with adequate Iodine. I was not aware until after I was diagnosed that dense breast tissue is something like 5x more likely to develop cancer.
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Hey Deanna you mentioned that you wonder if cancer cells can pass from animal to humans and through my research i have found several pages saying yes it can. Vets and dairy ranchers actually have a increase in getting leukemia and also when they feed raw milk to monkeys what viruses or cancer did pass into the monkey! very scary stuff to me Thats why i dont touch meat or dairy and the fact that four out five cattle in the United States has leukemia and or some other bad disease is horrifying . Hope everyone is well
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I just saw the new movie "The Cove" which is about dolphin slaughter in Japan. The guy that was the trainer on the "60's" show "Flipper" is now an activitist about dolphin captivity. In Japan, they slaugher dolphins and also capture them to put them in captivity (think SeaWorld). The dolphin meat that they sell is full of mercury and is toxic which is known to cause birth defects. Anyway, it is horrific but not so much different than the slaughter that we do to our own farm animals.
Sometimes, I am embarrassed to be of the human species.
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Cleomoon, ditto what Spring said. Check out the iodine thread. I cannot believe how all the lumps have gone away and my breasts have softened since I started on it.
j414-While I agree with you that a vegetarian diet is a healthy one, not every vegetarian diet is healthy. Eating only the same foods, over and over, and filling up on pasta's and rices as many vegetarians do, leaves them nutrionally starving. I know vegetarians who not only look ill, they have no energy. They need to supplementing but they do not. As I said, I eat mostly vegetarian, and when I do eat a little meat it is free range, hormone free, antibiotic free, etc. It is too bad that we cannot have every farm run the way Shepard does. It is too bad that everyone does not demand that our food supply is safer and more humane. I think of how the indians use to pray and give thanks for the buffalo they killed. I think of the way my farmer grandmother who prayed and gave thanks for the chickens she raised and then killed for dinner. My grandfathers were hunters. The deer they shot, fed them all winter. The sad thing is, we no longer appreciate the animals we consume. That is what we need to think about.
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Thanks Spring and Vivre. I will give the Iodine a try.
UGH! I am so mad cause I had my high risk 6 month followup diagnostic mammo today. Breast trauma and pain from being squashed and the radiation. Good news is that finally I had a Birads 2 rating. No more freakin calcifications were there. Had another MRI too. Will have those results next week. I think I have decided to wait a year for my next Mammo. Now to convince my gyno to do hormone testing to see what my progesterone is doing since the next thing I would want to try is progesterone cream.
I am so glad you all are here. I really appreciate this thread.
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redriver ~ I seem to think you're right. I mean, most of us didn't know we had small cancer lesions until they were found with some type of imaging. Why couldn't a percentage of livestock also have these or cancer cells in their bodies? How would anyone know? Do they specifically test livestock for cancer? I also recall knowing someone many years ago who, as a teen, had worked in a chicken processing facility -- the kind of thing that comes up when people talk about their worst jobs -- and I swear I remember her telling us that one of the things they had to do was cut out the cancers. Deanna
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I recently saw an integrative doctor at Jefferson Medical Center in Philadelphia. He has run every test for inflammation, hormones, etc that I can think of (they had to take 18 tubes of blood plus a urine sample). I haven't yet met with him to go over those. But he basically put me on a vegan diet with occasional fish for protein. I can also have an occasional free range organic egg. To my surprise, I don't miss the dairy as much as I thought I would (I do have one table spoon of milk daily in my coffee), but I have not noticed any of the "feeling better" from giving up dairy. I figure it can't hurt and I will be interested to see the test results at the beginning of the diet and 6 months for now.
Have a nice day.
Mandy
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Well I have been eating organic for 8 and 1/2 months now and I will never go back to eating any other way. My energy level is up and people remark about how bright my eyes look and how I have a new glow about me. I don't eat meat but find plenty of interesting and delicous protiens to use in its place.We really don't require large amounts of protien anyway. Those vegans who look pale and have no energy are missing the mark with thier variety no doubt. I have noticed that all the grocery stores are carryng more and more organic meats and dairy even Kroger. I think the world is starting to wake up, not to mention how many people are becoming sick and then starting to look for answers.
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Hi Mandy, does your doctor have much training in nutrition? I think it's great that he's suggesting a vegan diet. Yet, the recommendation to eat fish for protein strikes me as an odd piece of advice. Protein is readily available from all kinds of food. The important nutrient that is noticeably absent from a vegan diet is B12. B12 that we can assimilate is largely available from animal sources, and to be deficient in B12 can be a serious condition indeed. Most doctors have nearly zero training in nutrition, so please plan on learning lots of new information for yourself. About the only thing all the experts agree on is that processed food is the bad guy. From there, opinions spread far and wide. Even being vegan can get complicated fast. Cooked, uncooked, grains, no grains, soy, no soy. There's lots of ways to be vegan. Check out crazysexylife.com for great blogs and food ideas.
I make changes a little at a time. I started with ditching high fructose corn syrup. Then I dusted off my champion juicer. I've been juicing at least once a day for over a year now, sometimes 2 or 3 times a day. I gave up milk in May after being a hardcore milk drinker all my life. My post nasal drip largely disappeared and much to my surprise I didn't miss it that much. I was using coconut milk in my coffee and it tastes great. Now I don't drink coffee either. I tend to notice how much I've changed when I revert back to former eating habits. Like the hamburger I ate two days ago. I think I'm still digesting that sucker. Yesterday I felt like a limp rag and today my farts are so stinky I can hardly stand myself. TMI I'm sure. I'll stop typing now. lol
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LOL
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Hi Althea! Yes the doctor has alot of training in nutrition. He is part of the integrative center at Jefferson University Medical Center--you can google it if you like. They had me meet with a nutritionist while I was there in addition to the doctor. I am following most of the advice I ws given in the first vist but not all of it. But like you I was able to give up milk without much difficulty--I use almond milk in cereal now but I still do put a small amount of regular organic grass fed cow milk in my coffee. I like the taste of coffee so I don't plan to give up my morning cup. Unlike you, however, I do not find any difference in my post nasal drip and if anything it is worse---I know everyone says how much better they feel without milk, but I am not one of them. What things do you juice?
Best
Mandy
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I want to have bright eyes and be glowie like Merilee!!
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I learned of a supplement today that has cancer fighting properties called Chaparrel. any experiences? the vitamin store is all out. when i asked for it, the woman immediately asked if i had cancer. i told her yes (as i am very open) and she said she is using chaparrel to cure residual of melanoma.
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I have not heard of Chaparrel, but I would love to know what you learn about it.
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Hi
I googled Chaparrel and it probably does work on cancer. However, it also has an FDA warning that it can damage your liver and kidneys. So I'd probably want to be under a doctor's supervision or at least get my doctor to do regular testing to be sure that it wasn't causing a problem. Of course, consider what the chemo may have done to my liver and kidney.........
Have a nice day all!
Mandy
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the FDA will not approve most supplements because it loses money for big medicine companies. i think with everything, including chemo and supplements, the main thing is just making sure it circulates thru body quick by drinking and peeing alot. the FDA even warns about large doses of C, and we all know how good C is. i would love to learn more about chaparrel too. hope all of you are doing well.
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http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/learn/chaparral.php
I found this link but it is spelled with an a-l rather than e-l. Is this the same thing?
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here is another one
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Thx Merilee for looking that up. Certainly interesting but sounds like we would need to consult our naturopathic/holistic docs for more specifics on benefits and risks, was interesting though that just asking for it by name the girl at the vitamin store asked me if i had cancer. so much out there to learn, to take, to avoid, OY!
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dogsaver
You are so right, lots to learn.
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Hey ladies
Can anybody rec a ND in North Carolina? Thanks tons
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Interesting article by Ralph Moss about effective hyperthermia treatments that are available in Germany and Asia but not available in the US.
http://www.cancerdecisions.com/content/view/236/2/lang,english/
Deni
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Also, this is interesting information about the flu vaccine and its ineffectiveness. And, how vitamin d supplementation can protect against the flu.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/26/Flu-Vaccine-Exposed.aspx
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From the looks of your avatar, YOU DO !
Springtime wrote:
I want to have bright eyes and be glowie like Merilee!!
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Thanks for that link, deni.
I wanted to try it so badly because it increases the effectiveness of chemo, but the docs refused.
I was devastated. I still can't understand why a treatment with little to no side effects is postponed until a last resort.... aka "too late".
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I know. It is just so clear that there is more at play here than the health of the general population. My husband is German and he always tells me that the thing he misses from Germany is the healthcare. When he was sick there, he would call his doctor who would come over to his house and help him. Here, especially one circumstance when he was sick in the middle of the night and in a lot of pain. Our options were to go to the emergency room, where we would wait for hours for treatment or wait until morning and go to urgent care. He opted to wait until morning. Whereas in Germany, he could have called his physician and had care within an hour in his own home. He also says that if my cancer ever comes back and I need further treatments, he would take me there because he trusts the medical system there more than here. Is it any wonder??
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Deni-that was a great site. Thanks for finding it. I really believe in this concept since it is common knowlege that cancer cells do die at high temperatures. In fact, I liked this idea so much that I started marketing farinfared saunas a while ago. Not only does it raise our body core temperature, potentially zapping free radicals, but it makes you sweat out toxins. I plan to spend a lot of time talking about farinfared on my new site. Anyone who wants more info can pm me.
As for German health care-it does seem they are more open to exploring alternatives to chemo and drugs. There is no incentive to bring down cancer cost in the US. As long as our hospitals continue to lose money in other ways, they will have no incentive to lose their cash cows, such as mammography and other testing, and the whole business of cancer. There are many things we should be doing that would bring down the cost of our healthcare, and make it more affordable, and looking for cheaper treatments should be numero uno. But since our protocols are all based on studies, and since studies take beaucoup bucks, we will be stuck with the expensive treatments. Plus, without tort reform, we will never bring the costs down. Doctors have to run every test under the sun so they are not sued. No company will do a study if they do not see any profit in it. I do not think the government needs to take over or health care, but funding research for cheap alternatives and focusing on tort reform would be one thing they should do. I met a doctor who swears she has cured a patient with skin cancer with nutrition, supplements and castor oil compresses. She cannot advocate this of course as a miracle cure, but she gave hope to people who doctors had given up on. It is ridiculous that other methods are not taken more seriously.
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Interesting link. Thanks all for posting them.
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Viv - it is such a shame that doctors who have success treating cancer patients with other than conventional medical treatments, risk being ostrasized and even thrown out of the medical community. And, even a bigger shame is that so many who are not helped by traditional treatments use alternatives as a last resort after their bodies are already ravaged by conventional treatments. Sometimes it is too late, where it may not have been if they would have tried the alternative first.
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