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  • lovemyfamilysomuch
    lovemyfamilysomuch Member Posts: 762
    edited November 2010

    Sas,

    All is well, just feeling some anxiety, but praying here with my friends has comforted me, thank you

    Hail Mary,Full of Grace

    The Lord is with thee,

    Blessed art thou, among women,

    And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.

    Holy Mary, Mother of God

    Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death, amen

  • torigirl
    torigirl Member Posts: 748
    edited November 2010

    LMFSM-

    I know, oh too well, what you talking about...Satan is so prevalent right now, it's hard to not be scared...that is what he wants though...when you are scared, he is winning and mocking us.  

    Many times, I wake up in the middle of the night and am just scared....I know it's evil lurking nearby and I just start to pray....asking for the Lord to protect me...over and over again I pray to St. Michael and my guardian angel... 

    I lift you up in prayer and ask that God watch over you and protect you...

    peace and prayers,

    Tori

    DE COLORES! 

  • lovemyfamilysomuch
    lovemyfamilysomuch Member Posts: 762
    edited November 2010

     Thanks Tori, Good night sisters, and God bless you all! xo

  • kindone
    kindone Member Posts: 435
    edited November 2010

    Sheila, I was late too. so I just joined in.

    Ladies, It was so nice outside today in Buffalo, that I went out to the Grotto of Our Lady at lunch and offered all our prayers.  I prayed for all by name and that we never have a reoccorance.  I believe Blessed Mother will interceed for us through her son Lord Jesus. 

    Great prayers sisters I said the all, now off to bed have to work in the AM.

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 2,966
    edited November 2010

    I was here...

    Lovemyfamily........ you and I have been around a few years..... I JUST now starting "allowing" my mind to think about.. " what if"

    Sweet darling, I think it is because it has been 2 1/2 years... no more treatment... for about a year. I Just stopped treatment a year ago myself. So... it slaps us in the face.

    I just wanted to post to you, that I " get" you... we... and all like us.... feel the same. You are ok girl..... yes you are...... pray with me... us..... get that " belief" back tight again. The belief and faith, that you had your healing over two years ago.

    Bless you and have faith again... have peace again, with me. xxxooo

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 2,966
    edited November 2010

    Squidward......

    Two pages ago... you asked if we could pray together...

    simple.. short...and to bring St. Peregrine in the prayer time.

    I like the way you think sister!!!

    I love to pray together.. short prayers...

    St. Peregrines prayer leading....

    then short personal  prayers of ours to follow.

    I love talking to Christ in prayer.

    xxxooo

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 1,467
    edited November 2010

    There you all are (well not everyone, but ) Betty thank you for lifting us up in prayer. I hope you enjoyed today, and that tomorrow, your legs and feet don't tke too much of  hit.

    Laura,

    I too really like "chat time," and since I have learned that it's really a form of prayer, I feel better about my prayer life. Friday nights are usually the only time I get tears to flow, so it's very healing as well. How is you back today?

    Tori,

    If you are ever afraid, bring in your Warring Angels. I added your chemo in the Intentions thread, that you may get through smoothly, with as little side effects as possible. How are you feeling today? How is your strength? Prayers ofr you and I sincerely hope you get some restorative sleep.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894
    edited August 2013

    LFSM When I sign sas  I'm still Sheila----not unknown to you or others

    Yes, you grabbed onto OUR MOTHER and did the HAIL MARY. All of what we are going through --sucks. We try at each moment to prevent the fear overtaking us. We try to believe that we can control IT.  WE pray and have a  BELIEF that by our prayer that we can make a change.

    Continue to Believe. Continue to pray.  Prayer gives us peace. Prayer helps us to cope. Prayer gives us a sense of control over the uncontrollable. Why? Because we believe that in God , and Mother Mary , the Holy Court of Heaven being all the angels, that God has a plan . We may not understand or agree with the plan. The plan may seem unreasonable. Why me . Why now. Why ever.  Work with the plan as you see it unfold.  As Michelle has taught us, give up to God what we have to bear.     Bc absolutely sucks us dry.  Every day we deal with it.  Every day we rage at it.  Every day we condemn it.  And every day apart of us says why me.  Science as forsaken us,  I say that because if they can decipher the human Genome in such a short time..........why ......given the population group of BC VICTUMS, why can't more genomic identification and treatment therapy be accomplished that doesn't cripple people by treatment with tamoxifen or the aromatases inhibitors ,/arimidex/femara. aromasin. 

    Lfsm - I was on a rant, . I as you  based on your questions don't understand the why's.  Everyday a new symptom brings a scare. My husband and I both had cancer dx'd in 09. He passed in August of 2010.  Why? According to his dx , I had him much longer than what staistics allowed. Who allowed that? Why did he allow that?  I believe that all things will be revealed at time of death. 

    Don't fear death because we know that we believe in the joining of life after death,  What makes us crazy now is the thoughts of our loved ones. How will the children cope. How will my spouse cope. I will miss this or that . . Believe that God has a Plan  ... Everyday live life, enjoy each moment, say I love you too each person that enters your life with joy. My twin was dx'd in 96. She has lived that way ever since. She's still here and she was node positive.

    How each of us come out only time will tell----dear Lmfsm---grab each day and enjoy the moment. As I write this there is no"guarante" that I'll see the morning.

    You have fear go to the prayer thread and find words that comfort you. If you need more than what those words can offer I recommend you  PM Theresa she has an advanced uderstanding of prayer-----------------time for a Namaste reminder dear one.

    Karla a nurse on the nurses thread described that on a Himalya trek . She observed the Sherpas  gretting each other with their hands folded as if in prayer. She asked for a translation."I Salute  the God  within You". Think how powerful that statement is --LFSM- The word used in this greeting was Namaste Love Sheila

  • DiamondGirl
    DiamondGirl Member Posts: 695
    edited November 2010

    I can't believe this...what I've posted was not being posted??? I started noticing something when I posted on one of the games thread, I had submitted it 4 times and it did not take.  I had to go to use another browser before it was posted. 

    I just went back 2 pages on this thread and realized that my update on rad onc meeting did not get here either.  So I'll re-do it.

    Thursdays is my normal rad onc day after rad tx.  I brought my DH with me inside the room.  Dr. spoke with both of us.  He did not reply to the email buy expressed that he already spoke with the office administrator to make sure that the dirty sheet incident will not happen again.  It was unacceptable and that the rad tech had already told him that they apologized to me.  He also said that it is an isolated incident with the student tech and she has been notified that this flipping of sheets cannot be done.  I don't really trust them and I think that the student tech was actually telling the truth.  

    Well, they called me 2 hrs before my appointment today that the machine lost power and it wasn't powering on.  So I couldn't go today due to that. 

    Sheila and Betty ~ very glad that you both came in, I almost missed it myself.  We haven't heard from PRA, MonikaV, Pagowens, Patsmom lately.  Wonder how they are doing?

    Got a quote from the book "The Private Prayers of Pope John Paul II"

    "Every group that gathers to recite the Rosary is a gift for the Kingdom of God. Yes, wherever two or three are gathered in the name of Christ, he is there. The contemplative communities are a special gift of God's love for his people. They need and deserve the fullness of your love and pastoral support. Their particular job in the world is to testify to the supremacy of God and the primacy of Christ's love, "which surpasses all understanding"."

    Good night all!

  • mmm5
    mmm5 Member Posts: 797
    edited August 2013

    Good Morning Ladies

    I am sorry I missed the prayers last night. We have been moving into our new house and consumed with many many activities, I wish I could sit here and type for an hour just to update you but am a bit overwhelmed right now! I just have to say out loud that God answers our prayers in HIS timing, a year ago I was a mess a complete mess worrying minute by minute about bc and everything that went with that, and I know myself well enough to know that I will probably have some intense worry return from time to time but right now I am just feeling so incredibly blessed and so many things are coming together, I am almost afraid to say it out loud but GOD deserves these praises and I need to confront the fear about the other shoe dropping.

    Today in this day things are going very well! Thank you dear LORD, Mother Mary, and all the Saints.

    Sheila I am so happy for all of your NED tests, you are being watched over daily by God and your sweet angel, relax in that knowing and feel the embrace.

    Laura so glad your back is better, as you know I have been through that and it is a daily cloud to deal with and I am just thankful you are on the mend.

    LMFSM YOU ARE OK!!! and I understand!

     Theresa thank you so much about the postings on Scripture a very good lesson for me today and Phillipians is my absolute favorite verse and have repeated it over and  over to myself!

    Paula - hang tough you are in the "treatment phase" and all that go's with that time it will soon get better, and am so glad that you have a supportive DH to attend appts with you.

    Dear Traci - I love when you speak about your furry friend .....God's unconditional gifts to us, for the first time in my life since childhood, we got a dog last year, a Springer and we named him Rudy after the Notre Dame football player. He is amazing and thinks he is one of the boys, I a freaky neat freak and never wanted animal hair in my house and now this amazing dog (don't' kill me I am a SAP) jumps up on my bed and puts his head in my lap. 3 years ago I would have admonished anyone having an animal in the house now I just accept it. One positive thing out of bc for me is letting my guard down and opening my heart to a pet. 

    Betty - thanks for the prayers that was so thoughtful and Mary is listening. What kind of work do you do?

    Tori and Janet hope you are well and I pray all is going well with you! 

    God Bless all of you and remember your blessings today in the moment. 

  • mmm5
    mmm5 Member Posts: 797
    edited November 2010

    Theresa

    MANY MANY THANKS for all of your beautiful work on the Prayers Thread, really amazing work1 

  • prayersareanswered
    prayersareanswered Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2010

    Dear sisters,

    thank you all for your prayers and your kind words and thoughts. Second surgery (axillary node dissection two weeks after left mastectomy) went well. Recovery is a little bit more painful but I can handle it. now back to the waiting game.

     thank you so much for everything. I cannot stay very long on the computer yet, feeling dizzy and a bit weak, but thinking of all of you.

    God bless you all

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 1,467
    edited November 2010

    AWWWW...

    Michelle, I'm so glad that you are busy with wonderful life changes and journeys.. I have a big smile about your story of Rudy, b/c my Grandfather had a Farm, so my Dad always grew up with the dogs being outdoors only. So my mother got a dog when we were little girls, amidst great resistance from my Dad so that we would never be afraid of dogs. Along came Towser, our beautiful Welsh Corgi. We went to Grandpa and Grandma's house (no longer on the Farm, but the house Grandpa built :) The rules were Towser would have to stay in the kitchen, and he watched with such earnestness as we ate at the dinner table in the next room. His little toes just touching the carpet in the dining room, just a tad over "the line." This went on for a few hours, Towser being the perfect gentleman. He would just lay on his tummy, toes pushing a little bit more, maybe one inch?  Did Grandpa give Towser a little treat in the kitchen? Perhaps a homemade molasses cookie?  And of course the end of the story is the countless pictures of Grandpa feeding molasses cookies to all of our dogs over the years, a full member of the house, with associated privileges. :)

  • DiamondGirl
    DiamondGirl Member Posts: 695
    edited November 2010

    PRA ~ so nice to hear that your surgery went well, hang in there.  We are all praying for your speedy recovery and a neg path report and low onco score.

    Michelle ~ thank you for your medal, I just received it.  Thank you so much.  Good luck with your move, I know how overwhemlming it is, I've moved quite a few times and it is daunting.  Special prayer for you for the smooth transition :)  Thanks for reminding me about my "treatment phase", I seemed to have gotten very anxious and was getting upset at things.  Now, I will only do the count down and move positively forward.

    Michelle, Traci ~ thanks for sharing the stories about your furry pals (it brought memories and tears).  Sequoia (see avatar), she was a large dog, and was about 120+ when she passed (after losing about 40 lbs).  Two nights before she died, she was creeping into our kitchen from the laundry room, 1st night was about 1 feet into the pantry hallway.  Night before she died, she creeped past her boundary about 3 feet!! Each time we took notice of her (because she was so big), she would just wag her tail which made really loud slapping noise on the floor and looked at us with her mouth hanging open a little (as in a grin).  We would go to her and patted her, that was the last time I patted her.  

    For the sisters who didn't make it to prayer last night, please don't worry as we all know you are with us in spirit.  Please don't feel bad, I missed 2 prayer times too myself. We understand :)

  • janet in virginia
    janet in virginia Member Posts: 923
    edited November 2010

    PrayersRAnswered - glad this is behind you & you're on the road to recovery. You know the drill...plenty rest & plenty of fluids.  I'll be praying that there was no sign of cancer in any nodes.

    Goodness ladies - I need to take a nap on Fridays so I can stay up for discussions after prayers!! So many heartfelt posts. 

    Ellie - the fear of this bc is as bad as all the treatments.  One day I'm on top of it; the next it's on top of me.  So, it's a constant struggle and I too get very scared.  I like the "Help me Jesus" (think that was Theresa) as just a quick prayer when all those thoughts start creeping in.

    Michelle - glad the move is going well. - bet the kids are excited.  I don't know about you, but one good thing about moving is it's a good time to get rid of stuff! 

    Betty - thank you for prayers in the grotto.  Theresa - your knowledge & insight is always an inspiration.

    Paula - sounds like you're making progress with your rads team.  Keep being a squeaky wheel!

    Laura, Tori, Traci, Sheila - I smile at your stories & get strength from YOUR strength!

    If I go back to see who I've missed, my post will disappear so.... GOD BLESS US ALL for another glorious day the Lord has given each of us.

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 1,467
    edited November 2010

    Prayersareanswered,

    We have certainly had you in our thoughts and prayers. Do you know why you are getting dizzy? Is it pain meds? One thought would be to make sure your fluid intake is more than adequate. I often mix orange juice with seltzer water, and sometimes add a splash of light pomegranate juice. You can add water to thin it out a bit too, so you don't feel like you are drinking juices all day. If you are taking pain meds, make sure you have a stool softener, and your fiber and liquid intake help to keep you moving. It's really beautiful here today, not sure if you have an opportunity to soak in a little Vitamin D? Hang in there Sister, your getting through it! XXOO Traci

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 1,467
    edited November 2010

    Paula, I remember "meeting you" when Sequoia passed. She is a dear heart, isn't she? I include all of my children in my talking prayers, and will most likely shed a tear every time. They are happy now, and wait for us. I'm glad that the policy will be corrected regarding cleaning of the equipment in between each patient. by being pro-active, you will have saved someone from infection, and perhaps their life. I do think they will follow this procedure, because it is about staying open and not paying fines or penalties. I'd like to believe that this will also be a wake up call for them for all of their future patient interactions. The apology by the Rad tech will stay in their conscious for a long time, then walk on over to the unconscious for retrieval whenever faced in a similar situation. We are here to learn, and you have brought them to a higher level of understanding. Paula, as you are the Queen of all things cut/paste/picture etc...I have tried to put up my kiddos pic, but I have not had success. My computer is lacking Microsoft office software, as i had to remove it due to corruption. I am debating getting a lap top, and would welcome anyone's expertise. I have a 2004 HP desk top right now. We will see if I can pull it off :)

  • DiamondGirl
    DiamondGirl Member Posts: 695
    edited November 2010

    Traci - I'll PM you a little later about your computer issues, I'd be glad to help :)

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 1,467
    edited November 2010

    Thank you very much Paula...I still think walkie talkies are high end technology...

  • DiamondGirl
    DiamondGirl Member Posts: 695
    edited November 2010

    Wow, there is not one post since 10am!!  Where's everybody???

    Anyway, I just want to report, I was on the chat room for about 30 mins tonight and I remember that someone mentioned our Friday prayer meeting could be on the chat room.  I think it is really do-able.  Should we try to create a prayer room next Friday?  If yes, I will try to create that and report again how it goes.  We can use our call sign just like what we are using here on this discussion board. 

    Let me know what you all think?  

    I'll be back later if someone would like to post.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894
    edited November 2010

    paula--The chat room is very likely workable for us. It's worth a try. I personally would like to stay within the boundaries of BCO. To afraid of getting a virus from someplace else.

    glad things have changed at the rad center. Did you take in Squids and my posts on infectioncontrol?

    Pra--good news. Squids rec's on everything again on mark--I ditto.

    Michelle recieved the medal thank you.  Your transition, sounds blessed. Rudy is also a blessing. You just have to change sheets more often LOL. When we were younger we had to go to a king size bed. So, I'd have room for me. The 2 dogs and Greg seemed to spread out so much that I was almost pushed out.  Then came the 3rd dog.  One under each arm and one at my feet LOL. Then the baby came, It was amazing how the dogs accepted the banishment to the floor.  Thanks for the support on the physical workup , it was a mental setback for a bit, because I thought I was off that tredmill. Now have to decide on AI or Tamoxifen. I hate to disappoint my new Onc., But I still have damage from the first go around. Weaned off all pain meds, and have had to return to them because what was underneath  ( no meds)just wasn't acceptable.

    Squid I know everyone Pt wise is still talking forarm as your worst problem, Still have a shouler ortho doc eval the muscle / bone structure. Could save trouble down the road. 

    Theresa--your list like mine. Not to be nosy, but yes nisy. Why didn't you pay attention to it? was it the old flush of young love that got in the way?   I think I stuck with mine because there was a sevaral year lapse time between original list and then final choise. By then it was totally ingrained. The 4 most important and 3's. Could be observed with in a shorttime. That did make it easy. One of the questions I didn't tell you about. Did they have the potential to support me to the level to which I wanted to become accostumed too ?LOL.. Sounds selfish, but I considered it practical. Grew up poor, but wasn't going to continue that. Also, had an uncle pass at 45. His wife, out of all the Aunts, was the only one at the time working outside the home--1965. She had a Skill that allowed her to support her kids. Definitely drove my awareness of the importance of that. Hence nursing.

    DS ---moved yesterday. New job starts Monday. What a difference 2 weeks make. Didn't have final offer until this Tues. He's in a new apartment as of yesterday.  I really wish I had him for another couple three months. But it was a great oportunity-----oh well

  • DiamondGirl
    DiamondGirl Member Posts: 695
    edited November 2010

    Good morning sisters,

    I offer you all the Prayer to the Holy Spirit

    Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of Your faithful and kindle in them the fire of Your love.

    V: Send forth Your Spirit, and they shall be created.

    R: And You shall renew the face of the earth.

    Let us pray. O God, You instructed the hearts of the faithful by the light of the Holy Spirit. Grant that, by the gift of the same Spirit, we may be always truly wise, and ever rejoice in His consolation.  Through Christ our Lord. Amen!

  • DiamondGirl
    DiamondGirl Member Posts: 695
    edited August 2013

    Sheila ~ congrats on your DS.  All things will come and line up in time, Praise God!

    Chat room ~ there are 2 Rooms created there. 

    (1) Treatments and Beyond, and

    (2) Staying Connected.

    Last night when I was there, the 2nd room "Staying Connected" was vacant.  I just went there, both rooms are vacant.  But I would suggest using Staying Connected, but not sure if any atheist will get offended with us there?   

    *** I just made a request to the Chat Room admin to see if we can get a separate room called "Prayer Room" in case there are participants there or not to offend anyone stumbling upon the 2nd room.  I hope our room will be granted.

    Janet ~ thanks for encouragement, sometimes I think I squeak too much they will say "Oh no, pain in the butt patient, tape her mouth already."  (LOL)

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 1,467
    edited November 2010

    "Morning All"

    Why the world does not operate on my time schedule, I do not know!! :)

    During my walking meditation yesterday, it occurred to me, Who I would thank if I did not believe in a grander scheme of things? I am being purposely vague as many (worldview) have a different view of what this grander scheme may be.

    Gratitude is missing in this world. I have not always had it, and perhaps losing more allows me to see my gains in greater perspective. Much of my days are spent listening to people complain, and so my home away from home is often filled with a running dialogue of why me? (co-worker) And it's over time management issues (and they are big.) I have to literally shut my door to escape, as her calling out to he Lord asking why me? why me? is meant for us to come in and console. And people still do. I tried for over a year, but then realized, she wasn't asking for help, as any help I gave was never acknowledged. This would even cause her to ramp it up a bit.

     It offends me, and belittles those with real issues. And Friday I told her that, in a nicer way, but in a nutshell...there are far worse issues, and if you are this stressed, it is 5:00, go home. (I had another hour of charting to go.) I hear 40 times a day, "it's not easy..." "I do everything." Which is far far from the truth, although I do not for one minute think it is easy in her head, and it is sad to see deep anxiety disorders go untreated, not even counseling. So who gets hit with this? Everybody else does, that's who. Zero gratitude for the things that are going Right, for those who are working just as hard, but don't stop to complain, and that would be many of us. and at the end of the day, I see her strengths, thank her often, enjoy when things are light and there is humor. But those things don't count. It's the negativity that has the pull, that gets all of the attention, and eventually has catastrophic results for her and us in her wake.

    There's the rub so to speak. As much as I wish negativity doesn't exist, it does, and in spades. I need to find a way to truly not be affected, not to let others make me sick. I do enough of my own damage, I don't need anyone's else's "stuff."

    It occurred to me the other day when I was reading one the negative threads on BCO.. you know, the back and forth, the intricate dance of people rushing in to support, then others opposing the supporters, and then it becomes this huge cluster doo (edited.) and at the core of it all? Where is the Grace? where is the Gratitude for what has gone right today? I am Not perfect by any means, (I see you all nodding :) but there is Grace in our lives, everyday. I didn't know this a few years back. I had a dark decade before Breast Cancer. There will be bad times again, but it's o.k., I'm on the mission now. I watch a lot of Discovery Channel and listen to people's stories. I am walking, Praise Be To God. I am breathing on my own. Thank you Jesus. I have means again, and although this will take years to fix, and may not be "fixable," I could pay for a hotel room for more than one night, should anything happen to my home. I have food in the fridge, in my cupboards, and in my belly. My pain is managed. I have heat, shelter and clothing. My only complaint today is my dear daughter's Tummy is messed up again, and I need IAMS to start making her food again, STAT. I hurt when my baby hurts.

    Wow, look at everything I have!  And I have you wonderful group of ladies that I pray with, that share their hearts, that bring me to new levels of understanding. My archaic computer works! I got my sleeve and glove...whoopie!

    I may be the luckiest gal on earth, and I Didn't Know how much I had.

    So yesterday, when I was doing my walking prayer, and I noticed some fabulous flowers and plants, I did my customary little dance, and said out loud Good One God! I wondered, who would I thank for all of this splendor, if I didn't have God? 

  • DiamondGirl
    DiamondGirl Member Posts: 695
    edited November 2010

    Traci ~ well said and I have my take on "I'm grateful".  I've often said, "if I have to take an exit, I'm grateful for what I had, the numerous chances, experiences, encounters with people etc. etc.".  I often wonder (like you) why are there sooo many people on this earth, having it all and they are not happy.  I know for a fact that some families, are so wasteful (not that I'm perfect by any means), but wasting food, clothing, toys, used or new.  I've heard from a friend that she knew of a very well to do family "throwing away brand new things with tags on them".  What ??? So, this friend of a friend will take it home, since they were trash already.  I often wonder, I was always taught to save, give away what I can't use but these people are just wasteful.  Get this, there's no ending to their wealth either.  No matter how they waste, there's no penalty to that.  (maybe that's what I think, I can be wrong). 

    And Traci, I'm with you on the "co-workers that nags and nags about this and that.  Many times, all they have to do is suck it up and it can be fixed.  Nobody else nearby needs to hear their whinning. Have you tried "{mirroring her)" ?  I always say it to my family, just because I'm not complaining doesn't mean everything is hunky dory.  I could be feeling sick and just suck it up, there's not need to keep that negative attention, groaning when something isn't going right for me.  I told my DD, it's ok to share some of the things that affects her but it doesn't have to be the little things.  She likes to talk out loud and groan about the littest of things that didn't go her way. That's annoying!

    I think it is ok for us to turn around to those annoying people and remind them, "hey be grateful, because you know what, it could be a lot worse when you least expect it".  

    Sorry to hear about your dog's tummy.  Could she have eaten something on the ground during your walks?  Did she go for grass or plants, it may help.  You know, since the dog food scare, I don't trust the dog food anymore.  FYI - I read in the newspaper that even bones are not good for dogs and I did stop buying the real dog bones from pet store (fyi).  

  • DiamondGirl
    DiamondGirl Member Posts: 695
    edited August 2013

    In the newspaper, U.S. Roman Catholic bishops conducting exorcism training.  2-day training ends Nov 13th in Baltimore, is to outline the scriptural basis of evil, instruct clergy on evaluating whether a person is truly possessed, and review the prayers and rituals that comprise an exorcism....

    The training comes at a time when many American bishops and priests are trying to correct what they view as a lack of emphasis on the Catholic teaching about sin and evil after the Second Vatican Council, the series of meetings in the 1960s that enacted modernization reforms in the church.  Many in the American hierarchy, as well as Pope Benedict XVI, believe that the supernatural aspect of the church was lost in the changes, reducing it to just another institution in the world.

    http://www.the-review.com/news/article/4931412

  • janet in virginia
    janet in virginia Member Posts: 923
    edited November 2010

    Paula - I read that too the other day!  Here are some references from ewtn

    http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=108603

    http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=101712

     see 4th paragraph - this is what I was talking about the other day:

    http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=101409

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 1,467
    edited November 2010

    Paula,

    Thanks for the support, it will help me tomorrow. I did mirror her on Friday, and had to say this several times as she won't listen. Which means it didn't go in. I think the best I can do at the end of the day, is refuse to go down her path, no matter what. I always loved team work and find I am surrounded by so many egos some days (and it's our group, I have to say I do not see this in the clinic hardly at all.) We have a few very very bad apples at another site have no scruples, and love to stir up trouble. How sad. It has been a very hard challenge for me, as it is night and day from whence I come. But one day at a time, this path will be revealed to me. I just have to trust trust, that we are where we are supposed to be. There is a lot of good too, just not what I expected. There are a few great quotes that talk about your plans vs Gods.

    and thanks about little one. I think it's her interim food. She has some allergies to lamb, but the food is grain free. I did not give her a long enough course of antibiotics last week I guess, as she had issues last Sunday. I was trying to treat her at the minimum. I will pray IAMS gets it together, as we HAVE to have the skin and coat formulae. I can do some cooking of kangeroo (I try not to think about it, I don't really eat meat, but well, she does.) I don't have a way to get all of the other nutrients like fatty acids, omegas etc...but with more research, I could learn. A visit to a holistic vet for food advice would be costly for sure. They (IAMS) should be close to making it. It would be great to transition her ASAP, while she is on the Flagyl to keep things smooth.

    So I saw something in the news about looking for Priests to train in exorcism. I guess this might be part of the article? I'll read your article after posting,

    as an aside, I just cannot fathom people throwing away things that have tags on them. The waste, and not even considering giving toys, clothes, shoes etc...to people that can use them. I just peeked back and saw that your friend of a friend will take them home. Thank God. Really, you have to be very out of touch with life to be able to do stuff like that. Another group that needs higher end clothing are men and women who have been through hard times, may be staying in shelters and they are trying to interview for jobs, as well as have clothing appropriate for the work place. I remember reading Little House in the Prairie books, and it always stuck with me the joy and excitement of receiving an orange when their father brought them back after traveling a distance to another town.

    It bothers me us such a deep level that we have children going hungry in the U.S., yet we spend billions on a war? How is it possible that we have hungry children, uninsured citizens, our school teachers make such low salaries in the "land of the plenty." I have talked to many people who have come here form war torn countries, seeking political asylum etc...or to try and provide for their families back home, and they really thought our streets were paved with gold due to Hollywood, movies and hype. But their lives are still much much better than before, even as they struggle here. Now that's something to cry about!

    alright, I'll get off my soapbox now :) I needed to shake off the remnants of last week before going in tomorrow. I will be wearing my armor for sure.

    So the Friday night prayer group, chat room. I've been noodeling on this all afternoon. I would love to hear what the others ladies think as well. It has been much easier to get on, so that barrier is better. Our prayers do follow a set format, which we accomplish in different time frames, so I recognize we each have our own style of prayer. One of the super things is of course seeing the beautiful "I'm here" and knowing we are all together. Some go to sleep afterwards, and some of us get chattier :)

    Would there be someone leading the prayers and typing them out in real time? I do flip in and out to go to the intentions list, read St. Peregrine prayer. Would that knock me out of chat then make it so I have to sign in again?  Another thought would be to have chat after our prayers, to talk about our experiences, whatever the spirit moves. Prayer for me brings me into a new frame of mind, and it gets my brain going and my defenses down.

    We could move our prayer time to earlier, and then more of us might want to chat afterwards.

    We could use the chat room in a structured way, such as Bible study, with a leader if someone wanted to. I was thinking we could even read an agreed upon passage before hand, like a book club, or come to discuss a topic, such as gratitude, changes in spirituality after our diagnosis, or topics such as friends and family, how to help them understand that even though treatment may be over, this does not mean we don't worry etc...They sky is the limit.

    So those are a few thoughts, what do you all think?

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 1,467
    edited November 2010

    Janet and Paula,

    I read both and now I do see exactly what you are saying. Can I ask you to share where Jesus performed exorcisms? I did not know that!

  • theresap60
    theresap60 Member Posts: 849
    edited November 2010

    What wonderful posts tonight!  I have to regroup and catch up on all the posts since Friday night.  Skip and I went down to tidewater.  Long story short, we had a renter in our "vacation" condo and she booked with 3 months left on the lease, so we went down to make sure the place was in ok condition... we had left furniture in the place and had new carpet installed before she moved in and a new refrigerator.  It was my Mom's vacation place and whenever we go down there, we feel such peace and relaxation.  GRATITUDE is what I felt all weekend!  My morning reading (Liturgy of the Hours) was from St. Augustine about how we hold nothing in life, everything is a gift from God.  Then we went to Mass at the little church and the homily was so powerful.  I felt such a powerful Franciscan prompting in my heart to help that little church.  I told that to Skip after we left and he said Father's homily tugged at his heart too.  I haven't reigned in all the feelings that flooded me this weekend, especially today, so I'll need time to discern them.

    Traci - the complianing coworker.  I get sucked into other people's mood too.  And I had training how NOT to allow them to affect me and I still get sucked in.  When I was married to my alcoholic husband, I was going to counseling and of course his behavior was affecting me and my health.  Even years after we separated and divorced, I was allowing his phone calls or his visits to spin me up.  (After my divorce and annulment) I was dating this guy who saw how my ex's behavior affected me and my health.  He told me about the attitude of indifference.  It works every time.  Do NOT show any emotion (good or bad) when that person starts in ... be like Mr. Spock in Star Trek, matter of fact, "Oh, I'm sorry you feel that way." then move on.  They know they  have you if they see a spark of anger or caring or humor or any emotion.  It's like a protective shield.  And it's not being un-Christian.  You're not mean; you're just not enabling them to continue their negative behavior.

    I need to decompress a bit.  The grandsons are all wound up for some reason, and after a peaceful, no children, weekend, I have to shore myself up.